Official Packers vs. Steelers Game Day Thread

[woodbuck27]

That's 10 unanswered 4th Qtr. points for us...the good guys.

[ThunderDan]

Good coverage.

[woodbuck27]

Packers weather the inevitable ST catastrophe plus Flynn Pic 6.

plus Flynn's arm. :smile:

[ThunderDan]

Jennings you dumby. Had him pinned on the sideline and let him get back into the field.

[woodbuck27]

Antonio Brown is killing us...

Arizona defeated the Seahawks.

[ThunderDan]

Great play by Neal.

[pbmax]

Great play by NEAL!

[ThunderDan]

Come on D! Let's get the ball back for the O.

[Packers4Glory]

Here's where the defense shits down its leg.

[MadScientist]

Gotta keep them from killing the clock and getting a field goal.


Shit now Neal is down.

[Packers4Glory]

Packer games last 4 hours due to the injury timeouts

[ThunderDan]

Ugh Neal is hurt.

[Guiness]

Psych warfare.

I know, I've heard that before, but wow, enough is enough. It has to affect the performance at some point?

Although I know a guy who is just always warm. Yesterday it was freezing rain and windy, he was walking through a parking lot in a t-shirt. Somehow he is just always warm.

edit: I just got corrected. I don't know him, he's my girlfriend's ex-husband, and I apparently erred in not running him over. But he was wearing a t-shirt!

[Bretsky]

MULUUUUUUMBA!

+1 on J.A.J.

[ThunderDan]

Mulmba with a nice tackle.

[pbmax]

D holds. Need something for field position now

[ThunderDan]

Watch the fake.

[Packers4Glory]

Bad bounce...of course it couldn't bounce into the endzone

[pbmax]

+1 on J.A.J.

We could count the number of plays he hasn't made, but Jones has disappointed enough I am not going to litigate it.

[ThunderDan]

Flynn held it too long.

[Packers4Glory]

Why the fuck are we running such slow developing pass plays down by our goal with a line that can't block?!!?

[pbmax]

I don't know what was called on first down but Flynn looked in trouble from the snap.

[Bretsky]

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10180238

There you go red


I don't buy into this either......"sources told ESPN"

The Wiscosin State Journal had an article regarding this as well and the them of the article was it was TT (who wants to be overly consaervative)and maybe the doc vs. MM and AROD

I don't think this article by ESPN was any more or less credible than the Wisconsin State Journals

[Packers4Glory]

If we don't convert it's trouble. Big trouble

[Rutnstrut]

We could count the number of plays he hasn't made, but Jones has disappointed enough I am not going to litigate it.

I think Hawk is a much more solid player than Jones, Hawk my not be a world beater, but he's solid.

[ThunderDan]

How is that not down by contact.

[Packers4Glory]

Never mind. Bye playoffs

[pbmax]

And there's your dagger.

[Rastak]

Wow, that was close.

[Teamcheez1]

Rothleisberger + Steeler's Defense > Flynn + Packer's Defense

[red]

Sums up the abortion of this season

[ThunderDan]

Damn it.

[Guiness]

wow, what an insane way to piss away this game.

[red]

No pass block, qb has to scrabble, tries to hard to get the first, and losses the game

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay....in the spirit of keeping hope alive, if the Bears lose doesn't that mean it still comes down to next week?

[pbmax]

I think Hawk is a much more solid player than Jones, Hawk my not be a world beater, but he's solid.

Of that there is no doubt, esp. the last two years for Hawk when he has played some of his best ball since his rookie year.

But I held out hope Jones could learn inside because he was good enough in coverage and athletic enough to not need to leave the field. Got exposed some last year and was slow at times to react, but I thought a full offseason would help.

Hasn't yet.

[Rastak]

wow, what an insane way to piss away this game.

As good as any other I guess. I've seen the Vikings use 3 or 4 different ones.

[ThunderDan]

Still have 3 time outs. D stand of the year coming up!

[Bretsky]

We could count the number of plays he hasn't made, but Jones has disappointed enough I am not going to litigate it.


Jones only disappointed those who thought he was worth a shit in the first place. He was never worth 4MIL a year though

[woodbuck27]

OK plan 'B'.

Hope that the Giants beat the Lions in OT in Detroit...The Giants are moving the ball last I checked.

[pbmax]

Okay....in the spirit of keeping hope alive, if the Bears lose doesn't that mean it still comes down to next week?

Yes but it puts the Lions back in the picture.

[ThunderDan]

Det and Giants in OT.

[woodbuck27]

OK plan 'B'.

Hope that the Giants beat the Lions in OT in Detroit...The Giants are moving the ball last I checked.

Also it's NOT over till the fat lady sings.

GO PACK GO !

[ThunderDan]

Wow, dumb play call.

[Teamcheez1]

Flynn with two turnovers and 53% completion rate.

[channtheman]

Detroit can still lose one and Chicago can lose tonight. If those happen, we can afford to lose this one.

[ThunderDan]

Detroit can still lose one and Chicago can lose tonight. If those happen, we can afford to lose this one.

And I will have heart attack.

[ThunderDan]

We will get the ball back with a minute and a half.

[red]

Jones only disappointed those who thought he was worth a shit in the first place. He was never worth 4MIL a year though

It was shocking when those numbers came out

I was thing 1 or 1.5 a year, nomway was he worth 4. Huge fuck up by tt on that one

[ThunderDan]

Block!

[Guiness]

As good as any other I guess. I've seen the Vikings use 3 or 4 different ones.

lol, fair enough, o my tortured friend!

crazier than crazy, the Pack gets the ball back with some time on the clock.

[Bretsky]

And there's your dagger.

we have 9 lives

[channtheman]

Can we fire Slocum yet?

[Packers4Glory]

Hahaha special teams

[ThunderDan]

Special teams kills us again.

[pbmax]

I don't buy into this either......"sources told ESPN"

The Wiscosin State Journal had an article regarding this as well and the them of the article was it was TT (who wants to be overly consaervative)and maybe the doc vs. MM and AROD

I don't think this article by ESPN was any more or less credible than the Wisconsin State Journals

I haven't read the ESPN piece but you are over reading the WSJ and Green Bay Press Gazette Dougherty article.

He said it was Thompson's call as for as authority mattered, but he did not say he had made it. He could only infer Rodgers didn't bench himself and that McCarthy was lobbying Thursday for him to play.

PD had no info on what Doc told TT or M3. He could only infer Thompson's call.

[Teamcheez1]

Yeah! Our special team come through again in the clutch. It doesn't get much better than this.

[red]

Wow

Special teams

[Rastak]

Roh Roh Rorge.......

[Bretsky]

OMG are you f'cking kidding me Nick Perry to sack of a wasted draft pick shit

[Rutnstrut]

I'm gonna throw this out there because I haven't pissed anyone here off for a few days. IF the injury to Rodgers is as they say, they mailed this season in by not playing him. This is football not ballet, there's always a chance of getting hurt. Why not just keep Rodgers out forever, that way he won't get hurt again. Boy looks like Nick perry was an awesome pick too.

[MadScientist]

Peri just sealed the loss. Idiot!

[Packers4Glory]

Shoulda let him score

[red]

Let them score

Wheres blue dog

[ThunderDan]

Let them score.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Detroit can still lose one and Chicago can lose tonight. If those happen, we can afford to lose this one.

And we will thanks to special teams. No excuses for three special team penalties and two long returns!

[Joemailman]

Packers need to let them score.

[Bretsky]

dummies...they should have let them score on the last play

[Teamcheez1]

I sure hope the Lambeau crowd boos the Packers after the game is over.

[Bretsky]

FIRE CLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM

[ThunderDan]

Ok we get the ball back.

[Harlan Huckleby]

scored too soon

[denverYooper]

So the Lions are out. There's that, anyway.

[red]

I'm gonna throw this out there because I haven't pissed anyone here off for a few days. IF the injury to Rodgers is as they say, they mailed this season in by not playing him. This is football not ballet, there's always a chance of getting hurt. Why not just keep Rodgers out forever, that way he won't get hurt again. Boy looks like Nick perry was an awesome pick too.

I agree, hold out all your players for every game. Could blow out a knee or neck on any play

Cant have injuries

[ThunderDan]

Det loses.

[woodbuck27]

The Giants will try a FG...and make it... GIANTS 23 - Lions 20. FINAL OT.

Now we need Philly to best the Bears tonight.

It's all too simple. :alc:

[denverYooper]

FIRE CLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM FIRE SLOCUM

This.

[Teamcheez1]

As much as I hate the Bears, I would prefer they win tonight to put us out of our misery.

[MadScientist]

Detroit lost. Go Philly!

[Harlan Huckleby]

micah, my man

[red]

Wow

Hyde at least came to play today

[Joemailman]

As much as I hate the Bears, I would prefer they win tonight to put us out of our misery.

Losing (maybe) is no excuse for blasphemy.

[pbmax]

Hyde for the dagger repair.

[pbmax]

As much as I hate the Bears, I would prefer they win tonight to put us out of our misery.

Let's not get crazy TC!

[woodbuck27]

I still like our chances .

Holy Cow !!!

Micah Hyde is playing awesome today.

Nice return.

We

are

alive.

[Kiwon]

Go Pack!

[ThunderDan]

Great play. Got out of bounds.

[woodbuck27]

GO PACK GO...never quit.

[Willard]

Losing (maybe) is no excuse for blasphemy.Agreed. Slap. Snap out of it!

[woodbuck27]

There MM had to call a pass.

[Rastak]

Helluva game.

[Teamcheez1]

MM blows it with his playcalling.

Flynn misses a wide open Jordy Nelson.

Game, set, match.

[red]

Now why are we running?

Huge penalty

Fuck barclay. That was horrible clock management at the end

[Rutnstrut]

Great goal line play calling Stubby.

[Bretsky]

that was pathetic

[Harlan Huckleby]

barclay = the goat

[pbmax]

Jordy was open but Flynn had correctly seen TroyP in the passing lane. He ran out of it at the snap, but not sure he could read that pre snap.

[Packers4Glory]

Why Boykin? Look for jordy or jones. Fuck. Stupid motherfucking team. Stupid

[ThunderDan]

I like the run on first down but should have clocked the ball on second down to get two shots from the 2.

[denverYooper]

As much as I hate the Bears, I would prefer they win tonight to put us out of our misery.

Eff that! I'm going to crack a beer and put on my Philly hat tonight crew!

[pbmax]

barclay = the goat

It was Lang who has been doing that for 3 weeks.

[Bretsky]

TERRIBLE TERRIBLE LEADERSHIP BY FLYNN

He let 5 seconds run off the clock before snapping the ball

[Guiness]

speechless

10 second run off? But nutiest of all is that it took them 5 seconds to snap the ball after that, seemed to me they could've gotten off 2 plays there.

[channtheman]

Doesn't matter. I am 100% convinced that the Bears will lose tonight.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Not that I need another reason to hope the Bears lose but, c'mon Philly!

[Iron Mike]

How many plays today were fucked by OL holding or false starting?? FIRE CAMPEN!!!!!! :doh:

[JohnMexico]

Poor time management by the Packers at the end, too. Spike the ball and give yourself 2 shots at the TD.


spike. THE FUCKING BALL.

[Bretsky]

I didn't like the 2nd down run but can live with that call.
what I can't live with is idiotic leadership

There is NO WAY we should not have got two plays in with ten seconds left.

[ThunderDan]

speechless

10 second run off? But nutiest of all is that it took them 5 seconds to snap the ball after that, seemed to me they could've gotten off 2 plays there.

Yeah, they needed to snapped the ball as soon as the ref backed off the ball.

[pbmax]

I like the run on first down but should have clocked the ball on second down to get two shots from the 2.

Yeah. Why teams don't have a run then pass 2 play call is beyond me. That way if you incomplete it, same as clocking it.

[Willard]

Bad clock/game management by Flynn and MM. Go Eagles!!!!

[woodbuck27]

Pass left when you simply call Jordy and the short curl???

Ohh Boy.

Throw the longest side of the triangle of a shorter side. This is Matt Flynn's arm MM.

Flynn was looking left all day there and the coverage was way too tight.

[Teamcheez1]

Eff that! I'm going to crack a beer and put on my Philly hat tonight crew!

A win or loss has no bearing on whether Philly makes the playoffs. They can rest players for next week.

[PA Pack Fan]

gonna have a long list of duds

[pbmax]

I didn't like the 2nd down run but can live with that call.
what I can't live with is idiotic leadership

There is NO WAY we should not have got two plays in with ten seconds left.

That was refs. Players didn't get over the ball unit 7 seconds were on clock.

[woodbuck27]

Bad clock/game management by Flynn and MM. Go Eagles!!!!

Extremely so...GO Eagles !!

[Rastak]

speechless

10 second run off? But nutiest of all is that it took them 5 seconds to snap the ball after that, seemed to me they could've gotten off 2 plays there.


I though they would get two plays off.

[JohnMexico]

HE ACTUALLY LETS 7 SECONDS RUN OFF ANALYZING THE FUCKING DEFENSE.

SPIKE THE BALL AND ANALYZE TWO PLAYS WITH A STOPPED CLOCK YOU FUCKING BITCH

[Bretsky]

If the Bears lose tonight then they'll probably milk the Rodgers decision out and make another organizational call

Part of me thinks Chicago should just win and put us out of our misery

From disappointment in the leadership from the top down to our patheric excause for a ST coach the only spot this should be during playoff time is in front of a TV

[woodbuck27]

A win or loss has no bearing on whether Philly makes the playoffs. They can rest players for next week.

Your a Packer fan man.

We know your right but Holy Cow.

[ThunderDan]

Please lose Chicago!

[Badgerinmaine]

If you didn't care who won or lost, that would have been a hell of a game.
Instead for us, it's just hell. :satan:

[Bretsky]

That was refs. Players didn't get over the ball unit 7 seconds were on clock.


Do you think Payton Manning lets that happen ??

[Rastak]

If you didn't care who won or lost, that would have been a hell of a game.
Instead for us, it's just hell. :satan:


Like I said, helluva game.....:-D

[Rastak]

Please lose Chicago!


You guys out if they win?

[channtheman]

The Bears have to lose tonight for the NFL story lines to be in effect for the final week of the season. They will lose.

[ThunderDan]

Special teams cost at least 10 points this week. It was too much for our team to overcome no matter how hard they tried.

[Joemailman]

Do you think Payton Manning lets that happen ??

Well, I think we can all agree Matt Flynn isn't Peyton Manning.

[woodbuck27]

If the Bears lose tonight then they'll probably milk the Rodgers decision out and make another organizational call

Part of me thinks Chicago should just win and put us out of our misery

From disappointment in the leadership from the top down to our patheric excause for a ST coach the only spot this should be during playoff time is in front of a TV

Damn B. it's hard on some of us Packer fans.

I never gave up on that bunch out there .

I hope so much that the Eagles don't tank tonight.

I don't believe they will as that stuff can bite you in the arse.

[ThunderDan]

You guys out if they win?

Yes.

[Harlan Huckleby]

gonna have a long list of duds

ya, but can't say game was a dud

[Rastak]

Yes.

I took Philly in the pickem.

[Joemailman]

Are we Scrooges if we fire up the Fire Slocum thread on Christmas Day?

[Rutnstrut]

These players may want to win and go to the play offs, but the coaching staff and rest of the "organization" have been in the off season since Rodgers went down.

[Iron Mike]

We'll win this game.


Guess again. :(

[Harlan Huckleby]

Well, I think we can all agree Matt Flynn isn't Peyton Manning.

ya, but any QB ought to be able to get a snap and pass into endzone in < 10 sec

Flynn had a bad game, but you have to admire his fight

[woodbuck27]

Well, I think we can all agree Matt Flynn isn't Peyton Manning.


He trys hard Joe but that arm isn't good.

It's hard to call him on any route to the sidelines and that leaves right down the pipe between the numbers.

That loses eventually and usually way too soon. WE needed our run game to stay on top for the best hope but ST's and Flynn's style of play and arm killed us. WE left too many points on the field too. A big Red Zone scoring issue with this team.

GO PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

ya, but any QB ought to be able to get a snap and pass into endzone in < 10 sec

Flynn had a bad game, but you have to admire his fight

Ohh yea..you can't hate on Matt Flynn..he really trys. He's a good man. He'd be great tending a bar...baby sitting.

[PA Pack Fan]

The thing is, Flynn has moments of greatness, which leads you to a false sense of hope.

Then, the other Matt Flynn shows up, and your down another 10.

[denverYooper]

speechless

10 second run off? But nutiest of all is that it took them 5 seconds to snap the ball after that, seemed to me they could've gotten off 2 plays there.

It looked like he expected the clock to be stopped.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Starks is a very good player, very tough and fast.

Wonder where is career goes from here

[woodbuck27]

Guess again. :(

The point is never ...never ...... never quit on your team.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The thing is, Flynn has moments of greatness, which leads you to a false sense of hope. Then, when the other Matt Flynn shows up, your down another 10.

+1

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

He trys hard Joe but that arm isn't good.

It's hard to call him on any route to the sidelines and that leaves right down the pipe between the numbers.

That loses eventually and usually way too soon. WE needed our run game to stay on top for the best hope but ST's and Flynn's style of play and arm killed us. WE left too many points on the field too. A big Red Zone scoring issue with this team.


GO PACKERS !

But it is not just his arm, he almost always seems to lock on his primary receiver, and if covered tries to run or gets sacked.

[Freak Out]

Heck of a game that GB should have won. Fire Slocum.

[woodbuck27]

This week was such a burst !

[woodbuck27]

But it is not just his arm, he almost always seems to lock on his primary receiver, and if covered tries to run or gets sacked.

Certainly.

[PA Pack Fan]

This week was such a bust !

FTFY

[HarveyWallbangers]

Anybody mention that the clock should have been reset to 13 seconds--not 10 seconds? That would have given enough time for two plays. Lang false-started with 23 seconds left. Oh well.

E-A-G-L-E-S!!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

This week was such a burst !

not if chicago loses

clay gone

[woodbuck27]

I took Philly in the pickem.

I've got Philly also.

[CaptainKickass]

Go Eagles.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Fun game. I watched as a fan. Mainly because I don't think Rodgers will be back this year, and we have no shot in the playoffs against anybody without him. They said Rodgers wasn't even close to playing this week. My best friend is a Steelers fan, and we had a good back and forth today. He handled the loss in the Super Bowl with class, so I returned the favor today.

[Rastak]

Anybody mention that the clock should have been reset to 13 seconds--not 10 seconds? That would have given enough time for two plays. Lang false-started with 23 seconds left. Oh well.

E-A-G-L-E-S!!!


Is that on the GB clock dude running the clock?

[red]

that weird call by the refs is already one of the main stories on nfl.com

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000302546/article/steelers-on-wrong-end-of-controversial-call-at-lambeau

it might be a good thing we lost, there would be an all out shitstorm if we had won

i'm almost relieved we lost, and i'll be completely at peace if the bears win. i just want this disaster of a season to end. we'd be looking at playoffs without clay and maybe lacy

[red]

Fun game. I watched as a fan. Mainly because I don't think Rodgers will be back this year, and we have no shot in the playoffs against anybody without him. They said Rodgers wasn't even close to playing this week. My best friend is a Steelers fan, and we had a good back and forth today. He handled the loss in the Super Bowl with class, so I returned the favor today.

if rodgers wasn't close to coming back then why wasn't he IR'd along with jolly and bostick?

[Rastak]

that weird call by the refs is already one of the main stories on nfl.com

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000302546/article/steelers-on-wrong-end-of-controversial-call-at-lambeau

it might be a good thing we lost, there would be an all out shitstorm if we had won

i'm almost relieved we lost, and i'll be completely at peace if the bears win. i just want this disaster of a season to end. we'd be looking at playoffs without clay and maybe lacy


I couldn't roll with that if it were my team.....fight to the end sort of thing.

[woodbuck27]

not if chicago loses

clay gone

HH it's been a week of tremendous effort and the steak had zero sizzel after so much marinade and good sauce and spices....

I feel week and I seldom feel weak.

[red]

Starks is a very good player, very tough and fast.

Wonder where is career goes from here

well thats simple to figure out, because it will go the same place it always does for him

the IR

[Iron Mike]

Welp, I guess this game is payback for Yancy Thigpen....

[woodbuck27]

if rodgers wasn't close to coming back then why wasn't he IR'd along with jolly and bostick?

Yes that ? is still open for evaluation.

Pugger seems to have it covered with that article she posted today.

Is she TT's secretary?

LOL. :!: :rs:

WTF is really going on 'in the ORGANIZATION'.

[red]

anyone else find it funny that hydes big return at the end happened when he ran as fast as he could away from all his blockers and special ed classmates?

[red]

Welp, I guess this game is payback for Yancy Thigpen....

i was at that game

met and got to talk to #66 after the game

i was in the opposite endzone, our end of the field was in the middle of being pissed off that we lost when the cheers from the other end made us look back up and see it was incomplete

[Badgerinmaine]

Well, sing along tonight...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTcxQ7ER-G0

[HarveyWallbangers]

Is that on the GB clock dude running the clock?

I don't blame the clock operator. He was late realizing the play was blown dead. A good ref would have noticed the clock kept running after the false start. Often, they'll even review the replay to find out what it should be. This group of officials wasn't exactly stellar, so it's not very surprising. Flynn probably would have missed a wide open Jordy again, if he got a chance to run another play. More than anything, blame Lang for doing what you absolutely cannot do in that situation. Blame Nick Perry for doing the same on the Steelers last drive.

[Badgerinmaine]

that weird call by the refs is already one of the main stories on nfl.com

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000302546/article/steelers-on-wrong-end-of-controversial-call-at-lambeau

it might be a good thing we lost, there would be an all out shitstorm if we had won
I'm sure it would, but we can take any sort of storm in Packerland :-) Seattle handled that fine when they won last year on the Fail Mary and everyone ripped the outcome.

[Badgerinmaine]

Meanwhile, I feel like this photographer. Ouchity.


http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/packers-cameraman.gif?w=640&h=360

[CaptainKickass]

Fire Slocum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3EzRAgjo_s

[bobblehead]

Are we Scrooges if we fire up the Fire Slocum thread on Christmas Day?

No, it was on my list to santa, so it would be very natural.

[red]

i don't want to wait till x-mas to talk about firing slocum, i'm pissed right now

two huge returns given up, a blocked fg, a stupid penalty on a FG that resulted in a TD, the fake punt for a huge gain

this was a fucking disaster of epic proportions by the special teams. the one man show of hyde was the only redeeming item

[digitaldean]

i don't want to wait till x-mas to talk about firing slocum, i'm pissed right now

two huge returns given up, a blocked fg, a stupid penalty on a FG that resulted in a TD, the fake punt for a huge gain

this was a fucking disaster of epic proportions by the special teams. the one man show of hyde was the only redeeming item

Amen, brother. To say special teams was a train wreck is an understatement. Perry should have known better. The coverage teams were pathetic and Goode nearly cost a blocked punt early in the game.

[denverYooper]

The Bears have to lose tonight for the NFL story lines to be in effect for the final week of the season. They will lose.
Amen. The weird are going pro.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5600/foto-sche.2/0_40dcc_be5054ec_orig.jpg

[gbgary]

21-0 phi. game over. next week matters. what's the news with clay?

[pbmax]

Do you think Payton Manning lets that happen ??

Of course not. But Manning has been a starter for 200 games and has run no-huddle most of his career. This was Flynn's seventh start. The only way Manning is applicable is if Rodgers is in there.

Better question is why they didn't stop the clock before the penalty as Dan, yoop or someone suggested. If you are not playing to maximize the number of shots at the end zone. The clock it and call two plays for 3rd and 4th down.

I think the 10 second runoff with the penalty caught them without a script. At that point, the only thing McCarthy can do is yell, its ALL on the QB.

If I am not mistaken, McCarthy would not have had an open mic during that rundown and the setting of the ball.

[denverYooper]

i don't want to wait till x-mas to talk about firing slocum, i'm pissed right now

two huge returns given up, a blocked fg, a stupid penalty on a FG that resulted in a TD, the fake punt for a huge gain

this was a fucking disaster of epic proportions by the special teams. the one man show of hyde was the only redeeming item

Go for it Red. Fire that bad boy up -- the FIRE SLOCUM thread, I mean.

[denverYooper]

21-0 phi. game over. next week matters. what's the news with clay?

Not ready to say game over, but it's going to be uphill for a Bears team that can't stop the Eagles so far. Let's just say I'm encouraged so far, though :).

[HarveyWallbangers]

if rodgers wasn't close to coming back then why wasn't he IR'd along with jolly and bostick?

Because it's a broken collarbone, and there was a chance that he would be back. I did some research on it, and broken collarbone's have been known to heal in 6 weeks. Generally, it takes 10 weeks. And sometimes it takes as long as 16 weeks or more. I think Woodson missed 9 (maybe 10) weeks. If Rodgers healed the same, that would put him back for week 1 of the playoffs. 10 weeks would get him back in the conference semifinals.

[pbmax]

Anybody mention that the clock should have been reset to 13 seconds--not 10 seconds? That would have given enough time for two plays. Lang false-started with 23 seconds left. Oh well.

E-A-G-L-E-S!!!

Not sure about that, they usually don't go back to the clock at the snap but the clock after they blow the whistle and get the play stopped. Technically, that play never happens, but they always leave the seconds off the clock.

[woodbuck27]

anyone else find it funny that hydes big return at the end happened when he ran as fast as he could away from all his blockers and special ed classmates?

Please don't dump on Special Ed. students red. Some of our players would not compete with such.

[pbmax]

Because it's a broken collarbone, and there was a chance that he would be back. I did some research on it, and broken collarbone's have been known to heal in 6 weeks. Generally, it takes 10 weeks. And sometimes it takes as long as 16 weeks or more. I think Woodson missed 9 (maybe 10) weeks. If Rodgers healed the same, that would put him back for week 1 of the playoffs. 10 weeks would get him back in the conference semifinals.

Its pretty strange but Woodson was the same way. Each week he was out he thought he was close and then he would get ruled out late in the week.

Makes me wonder if red is also right that Rodgers should be glowing by now from all the scans.

[woodbuck27]

Not sure about that, they usually don't go back to the clock at the snap but the clock after they blow the whistle and get the play stopped. Technically, that play never happens, but they always leave the seconds off the clock.

How many times did the Packers throw that game away?

Why was that pbmax?

[denverYooper]

How many times did the Packers throw that game away?

Why was that pbmax?

Yet that same team is in it at the end to throw it away. Save for 1 week (Thanksgiving) this Packers team can at least be described as "scrappy".

[pittstang5]

I'm so confused, irritated and out of it. I thought for sure that if the Packers lost today, Bears would win the NFCN regardless - hence confusion

I was at the in-laws today, same place I've been at the last two weeks/wins. I had one Christmas wish/request = "The Game" was not to be put on. Well, it was put on and I immediately grabbed the wife and child and we made our exit - hence irritation.

I'm still a little buzzed - hence the out of it.

It sounds like Slocum should be fired, Flynn fucked something up and our defense still sucks. Sooooo, I really didn't miss much.

[gbgary]

Yet that same team is in it at the end to throw it away. Save for 1 week (Thanksgiving) this Packers team can at least be described as "scrappy".

scrappy and $5 gets you a cup of coffee.

[woodbuck27]

I don't blame the clock operator. He was late realizing the play was blown dead. A good ref would have noticed the clock kept running after the false start. Often, they'll even review the replay to find out what it should be. This group of officials wasn't exactly stellar, so it's not very surprising. Flynn probably would have missed a wide open Jordy again, if he got a chance to run another play. More than anything, blame Lang for doing what you absolutely cannot do in that situation. Blame Nick Perry for doing the same on the Steelers last drive.


Man it's hardly worth it but it's too easy and....that post reminds me of cheese.

Swiss cheese.

What part of clock management, including getting time back on the clock, belongs to our teams HC...Mike McCarthy?

Is Matt Flynn calling his own plays? If so is he related to or the reincarnation of Terry Bradshaw?

Matt Flynn runs the play as directed by the Packers HC...Mike McCarthy. He can 'only' see that play it seems. Checkdowns are something he does with a grocery list.

Again today we witnessed first hand just what a muck up MM can make of play calling and especially when the team needs the big play.

Maybe Flynn wouldn't have missed a wide open Jordy Nelson if MM had called plays to preserve time on the clock or see above.

MM is under way too much stress for his ability to handle such. MM simply wants this season to end so he can be just like TT and .................hide.

It's becoming way over the top too obvious that what's going on puts a brand new meaning on "something stinks in the State of Denmark".


That damn game was ours for the picking and it was simply screwed away by MM and his ways. His somehow needs..ie Shawn Slocum.

That terrible on and off again Packer secondary. How many DB's really stood out today besides Micah Hyde and all his experience? Does MM like his DB's coach? I expected that Steelers WR Antonio brown would burn the Packer Secondary almost at will. Why do those men play so soft?

It's not even worth it. It's really so dumb that fans can see better than the people we count on to put a decent product on the field and given that products efforts. Allow them to enjoy a win.

I place most of the blame for that huge loss on Mike McCarthy. If you don't, then I ask frankly why not? Isn't it much easier to realize that you should?

MM ... yes Mike McCarthy, blew that game away from us and he wins the 'Special Award' for his underachievements and sure he did some things just fine. As the head coach some things doesn't cut it. So for Mike McCarthy that special award:

The green mass of hairy moldy cheese.

Enjoy.

[red]

21-0 phi. game over. next week matters. what's the news with clay?

well he hurt the thumb that was surgically repaired and was still in a cast. he was in a ton of pain

i'm guessing if he had screws or pins still in there, then he's done. if he didn't still have hardware in there then he probably just re-broke it. it would be much worse if he broke a pin or screw.

either way, i'm guessing he needs another surgery and is probably done for the year

the thing that they didn't want to happen to rodgers, is the thing that just happened to clay. why clay was able to play with a still broken thumb but a-rod could not play with his own broken bone, is a mystery to me

[gbgary]

well he hurt the thumb that was surgically repaired and was still in a cast. he was in a ton of pain

i'm guessing if he had screws or pins still in there, then he's done. if he didn't still have hardware in there then he probably just re-broke it. it would be much worse if he broke a pin or screw.

either way, i'm guessing he needs another surgery and is probably done for the year

the thing that they didn't want to happen to rodgers, is the thing that just happened to clay. why clay was able to play with a still broken thumb but a-rod could not play with his own broken bone, is a mystery to me

i'm guessing he hurt a different part of his thumb as the previously damaged part was protected by the cast. hope we're both wrong.

[woodbuck27]

I'm so confused, irritated and out of it. I thought for sure that if the Packers lost today, Bears would win the NFCN regardless - hence confusion

I was at the in-laws today, same place I've been at the last two weeks/wins. I had one Christmas wish/request = "The Game" was not to be put on. Well, it was put on and I immediately grabbed the wife and child and we made our exit - hence irritation.

I'm still a little buzzed - hence the out of it.

It sounds like Slocum should be fired, Flynn fucked something up and our defense still sucks. Sooooo, I really didn't miss much.

Flynn didn't as you put it f..k it up. He doesn't get the primary blame. He's simply Matt Flynn and not having the skills of Aaron Rodgers or that other QB that led his team to so many wins in Packer colors before Aaron Rodgers. Matt Flynn shouldn't be counted on to complete plays that they would find difficult.

[pbmax]

How many times did the Packers throw that game away?

Why was that pbmax?

Not sure why you are asking me this question, are you referring to Harvey's contention the clock operator/refs mishandled the clock?

[red]

Because it's a broken collarbone, and there was a chance that he would be back. I did some research on it, and broken collarbone's have been known to heal in 6 weeks. Generally, it takes 10 weeks. And sometimes it takes as long as 16 weeks or more. I think Woodson missed 9 (maybe 10) weeks. If Rodgers healed the same, that would put him back for week 1 of the playoffs. 10 weeks would get him back in the conference semifinals.

thats really really asking for a lot for your a-rod less team to make it to the conference championship without its best player

i can see your point, but i think its fucking delusional (not you, the team if thats what they're thinking)

[pbmax]

I don't blame the clock operator. He was late realizing the play was blown dead. A good ref would have noticed the clock kept running after the false start. Often, they'll even review the replay to find out what it should be. This group of officials wasn't exactly stellar, so it's not very surprising. Flynn probably would have missed a wide open Jordy again, if he got a chance to run another play. More than anything, blame Lang for doing what you absolutely cannot do in that situation. Blame Nick Perry for doing the same on the Steelers last drive.

It would have to lose more than 3 seconds to get a review for the clock outside of the end of the game. I think this happens more often than we notice.

[red]

i'm guessing he hurt a different part of his thumb as the previously damaged part was protected by the cast. hope we're both wrong.

no it wasn't

i was paying attention to the cast after he hurt it. the thumb was completely exposed. in fact the cast had all the fingers exposed.

maybe the thumb part of the cast broke off. but the whole thing was exposed after the sack.

which makes you wonder what the hell the point of the cast even was

[pbmax]

well he hurt the thumb that was surgically repaired and was still in a cast. he was in a ton of pain

i'm guessing if he had screws or pins still in there, then he's done. if he didn't still have hardware in there then he probably just re-broke it. it would be much worse if he broke a pin or screw.

either way, i'm guessing he needs another surgery and is probably done for the year

the thing that they didn't want to happen to rodgers, is the thing that just happened to clay. why clay was able to play with a still broken thumb but a-rod could not play with his own broken bone, is a mystery to me

Pins are out of his thumb.

[pbmax]

I place most of the blame for that huge loss on Mike McCarthy. If you don't quite frankly why not or isn't it so much easier to realize that you should?

Are you even sure the missing 3 seconds is even reviewable?

[red]

Pins are out of his thumb.

well, they're about to go right back in. i hope he kept his, save a few thousand

i saved my screw, just because it was one of the most expensive things i ever purchased. and i can always use screws around the house

[digitaldean]

Today's game was proof positive why you needed Rodgers in this game. 2 turnovers = 14 points (or 10 w/o Perrys f-up offside). Open receivers missed, clock mgmt mix up at the end.

Turnovers, special teams and the piss poor pass rush cost us this game.

[red]

It would have to lose more than 3 seconds to get a review for the clock outside of the end of the game. I think this happens more often than we notice.

well, m3 can't throw the challenge flag, and he had no timeouts to take to tell the refs to put three seconds on the clock

the clock was running, if you sit there and argue with the ref about it, they aren't going to stop the clock to go look and give green bay a free timeout. they're gonna let the clock continue to run while you yap and let the clock run out

[Packers4Glory]

This is on the special teams. Flynn didn't have a great day but neither did Big Ben. I don't think the elements were very good for the passing game.

[channtheman]

The Bears have to lose tonight for the NFL story lines to be in effect for the final week of the season. They will lose.

This.

[Packers4Glory]

If Flynn had been here sooner we are probably already "in". He's not Rodgers. He's a better than average backup.

[Packers4Glory]

Watching this bears game....of course Lacy gets hurt today. Ugh!

[red]

Watching this bears game....of course Lacy gets hurt today. Ugh!

could just be a tweek of the sprained ankle he's had for a few weeks now

he might not be out for next week

[Packers4Glory]

could just be a tweek of the sprained ankle he's had for a few weeks now

he might not be out for next week
Really? Have you watched the 2012 & 2013 Packers at all?? Smart money is on O.U.T.

[channtheman]

The Bears have to lose tonight for the NFL story lines to be in effect for the final week of the season. They will lose.

Still this.

[ThunderDan]

Still this.

Good call.

[denverYooper]

No harm, no foul. See you all next week at 3:25 Packer time for the NFC North title tilt.

[denverYooper]

scrappy and $5 gets you a cup of coffee.

And the NFC North title :).

[denverYooper]

FWIW, the Stillers are 5-2 in their last 7 games. As the saying goes, it's not who you play it's when you play 'em.

[gbgary]

poor clay. guess we'll see him next training camp.

[mraynrand]

scrappy and $5 gets you a cup of coffee.

http://worthopedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumbnails2/360/0311/17/360_8a2610d5751b5430e86eafd5957eb41f.jpg

[Guiness]

poor clay. guess we'll see him next training camp.

I wonder. Any chance they put the full club on him and get him back out? Anything I've read about the injury says the most important thing is to immobilize it.

[mraynrand]

I wonder. Any chance they put the full club on him and get him back out? Anything I've read about the injury says the most important thing is to immobilize it.

Superglue it to a wall for the whole offseason

http://peelslowlynsee.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/steves-contribution-super-glue.jpg

[denverYooper]

I wonder. Any chance they put the full club on him and get him back out? Anything I've read about the injury says the most important thing is to immobilize it.

M3 just said in his presser that the training staff "didn't feel good about Matthews"

[Joemailman]

M3 just said in his presser that the training staff "didn't feel good about Matthews"

M3 has said in his PC today that Matthews has had surgery. Shockingly, he did not have a timetable for Matthews' return.

[mraynrand]

M3 has said in his PC today that Matthews has had surgery. Shockingly, he did not have a timetable for Matthews' return.

'never' isn't on any timetable.

[Harlan Huckleby]

No harm, no foul. See you all next week at 3:25 Packer time for the NFC North title tilt.

Shit. It was listed as a noon game earlier this week. For me, the earlier the better.

[woodbuck27]

Shit. It was listed as a noon game earlier this week. For me, the earlier the better.

Take that nap ... earlier Huck.

Scheduling change back to us due to the importance of this game to both sides. The NFCN Championship. Will the Black and Blue Division be back on Sunday?

Which reminds me. There has to be some ** World Junior Hockey games of importance on today.

Any good College Bowl games today that anyone might recommend?

** For any hockey fans..The World Junior Hockey Championship's Schedule:

http://stats.hockeycanada.ca/schedule/league_instance/16156?subseason=140707