Official Packers vs. Bears Game Day Thread

[pittstang5]

holding my breath for this kick off. Can't let a return here

[woodbuck27]

Or better yet, throw the ball more accurately Rodgers.

He was a wee bit high and long there.

[pittstang5]

oh please...please

[red]

damn, that would have been nice

hey, bears pull a slocum special

[pbmax]

Hey Red,

Bush stripped the ball!

[pittstang5]

Well if we can't get the ball, at least we back them up a bit

[Harlan Huckleby]

I expect big 2nd half from Rodgers. He is just a little off

[beveaux1]

It's been a good game. We've stopped them 2 out of 3 times on defense and we've turned it over twice and almost once more. We'll play better from here on out.

[red]

nice

[Guiness]

Block in the back is 10 yards? Thought that was half the distance to the goal!

And Cutler goes down. Malumba? ok then!

[pbmax]

Again, Richardson is where he is supposed to be and is not beat.

his is the D MVP so far.

[red]

Hey Red,

Bush stripped the ball!

i hate you too

[pbmax]

Neal with a HUGE stand against the backup RT.

[woodbuck27]

You can tell this is the holiday period. My puter is moving like a lazy dog.

[pbmax]

BUSSSSCCCHHHH!!

[red]

LOL

fucking bush, a good player would have picked that off

[beveaux1]

Nearly picked by BUSH.

[pittstang5]

Oh!!!!! Bush again!!!

[beveaux1]

Allow the Bears to be the Bears.

[pittstang5]

Cutler could have ran for the first. Glad he didn't

[pittstang5]

NOW, MAKE THEM PAY!!

[Guiness]

In other news, SD ties it up against KC. The season they've had it's insane that they are playing for a playoff berth.

[woodbuck27]

Passing

CP/AT YDS TD INT
A. Rodgers 11/15 115 0 2

Rushing

CAR YDS TD LG
E. Lacy 8 33 0 14
J. Starks 3 16 0 9

Receiving

REC YDS TD LG
J. Nelson 5 80 0 32
J. Jones 2 11 0 7
J. Boykin 2 8 0 5

[denverYooper]

For?

The collarbone.

[beveaux1]

Pass rush was there this set of downs. Their RT isn't too good.

[gbgary]

D's doing ok. Time for the o to finish. 10-7 ht lead for the Pack.

[beveaux1]

Run it up the middle!

[Infamous]

Needed 7. Can't win with 3's.

calm down, its about to be 10-7 pack

[pittstang5]

MM getting predictable! C'mon!!!

[Rutnstrut]

Lacy up the gut, not outside, damit it's not that hard.

[gbgary]

Run straight ahead mm.

[woodbuck27]

Eddie Lacy is dangerous !

[pittstang5]

Jennings is done, knee to the head. Too bad...NOW LIGHT THEM UP!!!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Jennings out opens up the pass game even more......just don't forget the run MM!

[denverYooper]

Can't say that I blame him, but Rodgers is a little skittish.

[pbmax]

The collarbone.

I consider that account still past due.

[beveaux1]

No more slow developing runs.

[TravisWilliams23]

Looked a little like the hit to the head that put Collins out.

[Guiness]

That's scary for both players.

Jennings is going to be getting the concussion protocol...and you have to worry about Lacy's knee, looked like a pretty direct shot to the helmet.

[pittstang5]

No more slow developing runs.

Especially on this field.

[Guiness]

LOL

fucking bush, a good player would have picked that off

http://www.wdtprs.com/images/SourGrapesAward.jpg

[pbmax]

I love Starks!

[woodbuck27]

calm down, its about to be 10-7 pack

Yup we have to like what we're seeing overall.

AR looks crisp with his throws.

[pbmax]

TD!!

HA!

[pittstang5]

oh lord...Boykin quick to get to that ball. Smart play!!! Fuckin Smart play!!! Regardless if it's a TD or not....SMART FUCKING PLAY!!

[beveaux1]

Rodger's passes are crisp and strong. We haven't seen that in 7 weeks. Well, Tolzien had some fire, but didn't know the offense.

[woodbuck27]

That will be an incomplete pass I think.

[Guiness]

*ROFL*

that's what you call a slow developing play!

[gbgary]

we needed a good break for once.

[pittstang5]

Incomplete or fumble Fucking Smart by Boykin.

[Infamous]

lol football 101 = play until the whistle!!! idiots

[woodbuck27]

oh lord...Boykin quick to get to that ball. Smart play!!! Fuckin Smart play!!! Regardless if it's a TD or not....SMART FUCKING PLAY!!

Yes but it won't stand.

[TravisWilliams23]

That's gotta be a TD.

[woodbuck27]

We'll still get them.

[Infamous]

Incomplete or fumble Fucking Smart by Boykin.

ummmm...NO, the bench had to tell him to "RUN!"

[denverYooper]

we needed a good break for once.

This.

[TravisWilliams23]

That COULD have been Arod's 3rd turnover of the game but he got lucky.

[Guiness]

For those saying smart by Boykin...no it wasn't! Rodgers and the Packers sideline told him to run it in! :-)

[pittstang5]

Yes but it won't stand.

Boykin made a b-line for that ball when it was on the ground. That, in itself is enough for me. Boykin is my new hero.

[Rutnstrut]

lol football 101 = play until the whistle!!! idiots

Yup, but it seems fundamentals are not coached anymore.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

That is HILARIOUS! And I'll take it!

[woodbuck27]

WE want to beat them straight up.

Wait......another look (angle) tells me that wasn't an incomplete pass ...it is a TD!

Packers 10 - Bears 7

[red]

LOL, thats the type of luck that the bears usually get

i'll take it

[Packers4Glory]

Wow wow wow

Need a hold before the half.

[pbmax]

And the Special Teams celebrate by being competent on that kickoff.

[pittstang5]

For those saying smart by Boykin...no it wasn't! Rodgers and the Packers sideline told him to run it in! :-)

Yes, but when the ball is on the ground, he made a B-line to the ball before he ran it in....that is smart. Everyone was standing around...Boykin grabbed it. That's my point.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay now let's get the ball back!

[Packers4Glory]

Wow wow wow

Need a hold before the half.

[pbmax]

Turnover

[gbgary]

come on d.

[pbmax]

This is matchup football gone wrong. Against nickel pass rush, Bear have burned a minute to get the the 35 by running it.

[Infamous]

CANT belive bears running the ball

[Infamous]

This is matchup football gone wrong. Against nickel pass rush, Bear have burned a minute to get the the 35 by running it.

RIGHT

[pittstang5]

CANT belive bears running the ball

Setting up a big play for play action...bet on it.

[Freak Out]

This is matchup football gone wrong. Against nickel pass rush, Bear have burned a minute to get the the 35 by running it.

Just thinking the same thing. WTF.

[beveaux1]

Three runs before the 2 minute warning. I think they're trying to make sure the Packer offense doesn't get back on the field.

[red]

For those saying smart by Boykin...no it wasn't! Rodgers and the Packers sideline told him to run it in! :-)yup, that was a-rod

i like him being all coy about it

"hey don't look, but i think its a live ball, GO"

[woodbuck27]

0-0-CHI 2 M.Crosby extra point is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay.

1-10-CHI 17 (3:34) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers sacked at CHI 23 for -6 yards (J.Peppers). FUMBLES (J.Peppers), recovered by GB-J.Boykin at CHI 15. J.Boykin for 15 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was Upheld.

2-1-CHI 20 (4:11) J.Starks left end to CHI 17 for 3 yards (M.Wright; L.Cohen).

10-7 Packers

[beveaux1]

Turnover!!

[red]

yeah, baby

[pittstang5]

uh...i think he was down

[denverYooper]

This is matchup football gone wrong. Against nickel pass rush, Bear have burned a minute to get the the 35 by running it.

I thought they were trying to settle Cutler down. Stoopid lateral by Burnett there.

[Bossman641]

Fuck ya

[KalamazooPackerFan]

AJ Hawk forces the fumble!

[pittstang5]

uh.. nope, that's a fumble

[red]

nice strip by tramon

risky pitch to shields

lets not do that anymore

[gbgary]

Turnover
nice.

[pbmax]

Turnover

YEAH BABY!

Not happy about that pitch from Burnett though it worked out.

[pittstang5]

MAKE THEM PAY!!!!!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

I thought they were trying to settle Cutler down. Stoopid lateral by Burnett there.

True!

[Infamous]

YIPPEE

[Guiness]

They're just having fun out there, lol. That lateral to Shields...wow.

Who was the rugby forward in the scrum? Pushed the ball back between his legs to Burnett.

Chicago has to be demoralized.

[pittstang5]

YEAH BABY!

Not happy about that pitch from Burnett though it worked out.

Yeah, didn't like that either

[woodbuck27]

OK now look at that...an Alshon Jeffrey fumble and here we go with a turn over.

[beveaux1]

Let's try for a TD.

[woodbuck27]

A big 3rd and 7:

and a 16 yard completion to Jordy.

Time: < 20 seconds to go >>down to 11 seconds and 3rd and goal.

[TravisWilliams23]

Everything is high today by Arod.

[pbmax]

Three runs before the 2 minute warning. I think they're trying to make sure the Packer offense doesn't get back on the field.

Probably.

[pittstang5]

c'mon!!! Gotta move the ball

[Infamous]

TUNNEL VISION on jordy continues

[gbgary]

nice strip by tramon

risky pitch to shields

lets not do that anymore

it's only stupid if it doesn't work.

[pittstang5]

oh lord, yes, yes Nelson!

[Infamous]

TUNNEL VISION on jordy continues

with good reason! lol

[Guiness]

And the Special Teams celebrate by being competent on that kickoff.

I know. Fire Slocum.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Where'd that run D come from for the Bears?

[gbgary]

great pitch and catch.

[red]

first and goal from the ten

we run it up the gut

m3 just doesn't get it

[pittstang5]

Damn. Are they stacking the box. Why can't Lacy get going

[Infamous]

USE THE TE NOW!!!!

[pbmax]

That was not a good TO. He should have taken the penalty.

[Packers4Glory]

Bears defense getting a lot of playing time.

[Rutnstrut]

There's your rust, poor clock management on this drive.

[pittstang5]

Oh...you can't do that Rodgers. Now it's a TD play or nothing.

[TravisWilliams23]

Really bad red zone play calling and execution.

[red]

mike will call for a run here

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Really bad red zone play calling and execution.

All season long.

[Infamous]

TIGHT END WAS OPEN!!

[pittstang5]

Don't piss this away...c'mon Off.

Fuck...burning that Timeout, bears new it was TD or nothing.

[pbmax]

first and goal from the ten

we run it up the gut

m3 just doesn't get it

That was off tackle.

[Guiness]

I wonder what's up? Is that the second or third TO burned by the O while they're on lined up on the LOS?

[red]

why was jordy at the 5 when we need a TD and can't afford to be stopped short?

[Packers4Glory]

Wasted big opportunity to get 7. That's huge for Chicago

[beveaux1]

Well, the good news is we got some points, and we receive the second half kick.

[woodbuck27]

OK a little lead at the half.

Cool. Packers 13 and Bears 7.

Four tries in the Red Zone and not much success and TD's today.

It might be worse. :!:

[Infamous]

Wasted big opportunity to get 7. That's huge for Chicago

true

[pittstang5]

Glad they got 3, but kinda wasted that gift of a turnover. MM playing not to lose. That would have been perfect to get aggressive.

[Guiness]

nice strip by tramon

risky pitch to shields

lets not do that anymore

What were you watching? That was Bush knocking the ball out:trll:

[denverYooper]

What is the TOP difference? Feels like the Packers have a huge advantage there.

[red]

That was off tackle.

well thats even worse

you can probably count on two hands the amount of yards lacy has had to the outside

[beveaux1]

Our only TD was a Rodgers fumble. Weird.

[red]

What were you watching? That was Bush knocking the ball out:trll:

tramon isn't much better than bush in my book

[Rutnstrut]

"MM playing not to lose"

That's how he's been play calling ALL season.

[gbgary]

considering what's gone wrong for us I think we're in great shape.

[Bossman641]

Unhappy only being up 6. Offense needs to come out and finish a drive

[red]

considering what's gone wrong for us I think we're in great shape.

yeh, just about everything that could go wrong did go wrong, and we're still winning

[pbmax]

I wonder what's up? Is that the second or third TO burned by the O while they're on lined up on the LOS?

2 that I remember.

[TravisWilliams23]

If you're Trestman, do you pull Cutler in the 2nd half? I would.

[beveaux1]

Bush is a "try hard" kind of player. We can use a few more of those. I was never a big fan, but with our defensive situation, I think he needs to play more. Never thought I'd say that.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

What were you watching? That was Bush knocking the ball out:trll:

Actually I think it was Hawk.....just fodder a different set of trolls.

[pbmax]

why was jordy at the 5 when we need a TD and can't afford to be stopped short?

You can't have all five routes in the end zone, there would be no open space with 6 defenders in the end zone. You throw it to him if he's running away from coverage or left alone.

On that play, he threw it away when the pass rush got close.

[MJZiggy]

nice strip by tramon

risky pitch to shields

lets not do that anymore
Ya take two freaking minutes during a commercial to let the puppy take a dump and this is what you miss.

[gbgary]

we're dominating the stats. troy hasn't made note yet.

[Freak Out]

Mason Crosby is like Siddhartha out there this year.

[denverYooper]

Dave Schroeder ‏@SchroederWBAY 14m

Morgan Burnett runs the read-option on that fumble recovery... You should've seen Ted Thompson's face in the press box!

[pbmax]

If you're Trestman, do you pull Cutler in the 2nd half? I would.

He waited until the game was over versus Philly. Well, he waited until very late anyway :lol:

[pbmax]

Ya take two freaking minutes during a commercial to let the puppy take a dump and this is what you miss.

Please take out the puppy next time the Packers are in the red zone.

[Joemailman]

Why are these games in Chicago always so weird?

[Joemailman]

Ya take two freaking minutes during a commercial to let the puppy take a dump and this is what you miss.

You should do a Bud Light commercial.

[woodbuck27]

DENVER BRONCOS

Passing

CP/AT YDS TD INT

P. Manning 25/28 266 4 TD's !! 0

He's up to what?...55 TD's on the season.

B.Osweiler is the QB now for Denver.

[pbmax]

Why are these games in Chicago always so weird?

Its the spaceship.

[Strange Brew]

Rodgers is shaking the rust off as we speak. It's going to be a fun second half!

[Tony Oday]

I do not like Aikwoman and Doe

[denverYooper]

They should get Starks some work in the 2nd half. He looks fresh and fast, could probably get to 100 today. Packers 19:28 : Bears 10:32 TOP difference. GB needs to double up at the start of the second half and then wear them out.

[denverYooper]

Rodgers is shaking the rust off as we speak. It's going to be a fun second half!

Welcome to the fold SB. Judging by your avatar, you'll fit in well here.

[Infamous]

who does pack play if win today?

[beveaux1]

Rodgers looks pretty good. A little skittish when the pocket breaks down, but otherwise, he looks strong. I think Starks has looked pretty good, too. Maybe we need to use him a little more. Defense has looked good or Cutler has looked bad. Not sure which.

[woodbuck27]

OK Boys let's stay on top please.

[woodbuck27]

Rodgers looks pretty good. A little skittish when the pocket breaks down, but otherwise, he looks strong. I think Starks has looked pretty good, too. Maybe we need to use him a little more. Defense has looked good or Cutler has looked bad. Not sure which.


Yes. :smile:

[woodbuck27]

who does pack play if win today?

Don't go there yet please. :smile:

[KalamazooPackerFan]

They should get Starks some work in the 2nd half. He looks fresh and fast, could probably get to 100 today. Packers 19:28 : Bears 10:32 TOP difference. GB needs to double up at the start of the second half and then wear them out.

Starks starts the 2nd half.

[pbmax]

They should get Starks some work in the 2nd half. He looks fresh and fast, could probably get to 100 today. Packers 19:28 : Bears 10:32 TOP difference. GB needs to double up at the start of the second half and then wear them out.

Someone is listening

[MJZiggy]

Rodgers is shaking the rust off as we speak. It's going to be a fun second half!
Welcome to the asylum.

[beveaux1]

Punt. 3 and out.

[Infamous]

pass interfernce

[Packers4Glory]

Run 3rd and 1!!!!! WTF. Stupid fucking bullshit!

Terrible run defense and throw?

[Infamous]

HOLY CRAP....special teams

[Rutnstrut]

Fire SLOCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TravisWilliams23]

Are you shitting me?

[beveaux1]

Starts off just like the first half.

[pittstang5]

SHitty, Shitty play calling. Run it on 3rd and 1!!!!!

Now they have great field position. Fuckin MM.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

How do you let Hester have the outside?

[Packers4Glory]

That's what we deserve for stupid fucking play calling. Fuck you MM

[MJZiggy]

Shit.

[Rutnstrut]

Run 3rd and 1!!!!! WTF. Stupid fucking bullshit!

Terrible run defense and throw?

That's Stubby.

[gbgary]

in the shotgun on 3rd and 1. come on mm. now look what that lead to.

[pittstang5]

What is going on!

[beveaux1]

Our run D is just so bad.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Letting them right back in the game!

[pbmax]

House was WAY too far inside on that punt left.

That was MD Jennings best hit and tackle in his career. After a 20 yard gain.

[TravisWilliams23]

Twice that play went big time.

[red]

shawn fucking slocum

if we lose i might drive down to GB in the morning, do some tail gating, and fly my fire slocum flag out in the parking lot

[woodbuck27]

It's game on there after that fiasco of return NO coverage by our sad ST's.

[beveaux1]

I'd run every down.

[Freak Out]

Fucking Stubby.

[Infamous]

great save lattimore

[beveaux1]

Every down.

[pittstang5]

If you can't get 1 fucking yard against this team, what does that do to your o-line MM...hmm...ANSWER ME!!!!

[red]

That's Stubby.

yup, tries to outsmart everyone when he's the dumbest kid in the class

[beveaux1]

Run it till we stop it.

[denverYooper]

Got too cute on 3rd and 1. Now the Bears are in position. SMDH.

[pittstang5]

Gonna give up the lead cause you didn't run on 3rd and 1....fucking stupid!!!

[Rutnstrut]

Look at that, someone that knows to RUN the ball on 3rd and short.

[beveaux1]

Worst run defense I've ever seen.

[TravisWilliams23]

Nice miss by Hawk.

[Infamous]

dayum! not one pass??

[gbgary]

yup. that td is on mm.

[pittstang5]

You can thank MM for that. Fuckin Stupid!

[Bossman641]

Forte has the cut back left wide open

[Rutnstrut]

Does everyone still think MM is a brilliant coach?

[pbmax]

The center of the defense doesn't hold often and everyone pinches down. Forte goes around Mulumba without being touched.

Perry must be really limited.

[red]

wow no discipline on defense

who bailed on their lane that time?

[TravisWilliams23]

Nice miss by Hawk.

Oops, that was Burnett.

[Guiness]

Time to start a new drinking game, every time the announcers say 'Matt Forte'. Aikman just said it twice in the same sentence.

Why do they insist on saying both of his names every time? It not like there's another Forte on the team.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Got too cute on 3rd and 1. Now the Bears are in position. SMDH.

This is MM's downfall. He thinks he has to break tendency every short yardage. There's a reason itr is a tendency to run to run on 3rd and 1 throughout the league. It works!

[Bossman641]

Has perry got any snaps

[beveaux1]

There's a reason these LBs on the outside are 3rd string. No containment.

[pittstang5]

Honestly, having Rodgers back isn't going to win this game if MM keeps calling shit plays.

[pbmax]

Got too cute on 3rd and 1. Now the Bears are in position. SMDH.

Running on 3rd down is no guarantee and it doesn't help the punt coverage or run D. No coach, genius or not is going to get every third down play.

Other facets of team have to be competent.

Didn't Richardson take House's gunner job?

[Infamous]

Time to start a new drinking game, every time the announcers say 'Matt Forte'. Aikman just said it twice in the same sentence.

Why do they insist on saying both of his names every time? It not like there's another Forte on the team.

lmbOFF!!

[red]

Oops, that was Burnett.

its tough telling those two apart, with one being lanky and black and one being stout and white

[Packers4Glory]

I'm so infuriated. That 3rd down has set me off

[beveaux1]

You take it out of Cutlers hand and put it on Forte's legs. That's the Chicago 2nd half game plan.

[TravisWilliams23]

See what CAN happen when you run?

[pbmax]

Lacy's foot is hurting. Limping off field. Starks has to carry it home.

[pittstang5]

I'm so infuriated. That 3rd down has set me off

I'm still pissed too.

[red]

god bless lacy, he may be fat and slow as hell, but the kid sure can run the ball

[Infamous]

RUN...DAT....BALL!!!

[Guiness]

You should do a Bud Light commercial.

*sigh* no, please no. Just no more...of either those commercial, and on second thought just stop making that crappy beer while you're at it.

(enjoying a Block 3 Saison, http://www.blockthreebrewing.ca/#beer )

[TravisWilliams23]

Pass coming up.

[pittstang5]

Another 3rd and 1...let's throw deep!!

[Packers4Glory]

Running on 3rd down is no guarantee and it doesn't help the punt coverage or run D. No coach, genius or not is going to get every third down play.

Other facets of team have to be competent.

Didn't Richardson take House's gunner job?

He does this too often. That's an easy run call. I will never bitch abouta 3rd and 1 run especially against a bad bad run defense. I want to see it up the gut. No pitch outs

[beveaux1]

Starks.

[Rutnstrut]

Look at that!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbmax]

See what CAN happen when you run?

Seriously, do you think there is more than a whisker of difference between Starks running short yardage and a Rogers pass?

Its just not that big a deal. The ST coverage and run D are far bigger culprits.

Of course now Stakrs goes for 40.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

That's why you run on 3rd and 1!

[denverYooper]

See what happens when you run on 3rd and 1? (NB for PB, I'm joking around).

[TravisWilliams23]

See what happens when you run the ball?

[Infamous]

MM is a genuis

[red]

I'm so infuriated. That 3rd down has set me off

thats McStubby

need 1, throw deep. he's done it for as long as i can remember

its like he keeps thinking " they won't expect the deep ball here", even though he goes deep every single time

[pittstang5]

Fucking Redzone!

[gbgary]

come on...answer.

[pbmax]

Easiest catch Cobb has had all season.

[Guiness]

Welcome back Cobb!

Knew that was going to be a TD as soon as Rodger went started his delivery. When you see Rodgers running straight forward and throwing the ball like that it's always a completion.

[red]

welcome back randall

[Infamous]

text book drive

[gbgary]

YES

[pbmax]

Inches from deflected.

[Packers4Glory]

Seriously, do you think there is more than a whisker of difference between Starks running short yardage and a Rogers pass?

Its just not that big a deal. The ST coverage and run D are far bigger culprits.

Of course now Stakrs goes for 40. you're not this obtuse. Running vs this D short yardage is a better play. Later you can takea deep shot.

[Bossman641]

Come on defense. Pick six

[Rutnstrut]

Seriously, do you think there is more than a whisker of difference between Starks running short yardage and a Rogers pass?

Its just not that big a deal. The ST coverage and run D are far bigger culprits.

Of course now Stakrs goes for 40.

pb, you are one of the most knowledgeable posters on here, yet it seems you refuse to admit the run game is HUGE. Why do you hate running the ball so much?

[pbmax]

He does this too often. That's an easy run call. I will never bitch abouta 3rd and 1 run especially against a bad bad run defense. I want to see it up the gut. No pitch outs

Wide versus inside I can see because the Bears have done well shutting off outside after 2 good runs early.

But slant on 3rd and 1 and run is pretty even.

Far more egregious punt coverage and run D.

[red]

should we have gone for 2 there?

[denverYooper]

Let's get it going downhill Pack.

[TravisWilliams23]

you're not this obtuse. Running vs this D short yardage is a better play. Later you can takea deep shot.

Obtuse! Remember what happened to Andy when he used that word on the warden in Shawshank?

[pbmax]

pb, you are one of the most knowledgeable posters on here, yet it seems you refuse to admit the run game is HUGE. Why do you hate running the ball so much?

Short version, its an overrated way to take over the game compared to conventional wisdom.

Last drive its an even bet Rodgers versus Starks for 1st down.

[pittstang5]

should we have gone for 2 there?

Nah, too early, but it will probably bite us in the ass.

[Rutnstrut]

Short version, its an overrated way to take over the game compared to conventional wisdom.

Last drive its an even bet Rodgers versus Starks for 1st down.

So basically you think it's boring?

[pittstang5]

You're kidding me right. Did Shields fall down. WTF

[Infamous]

phuck phuck phuck

[Rutnstrut]

Imagine that, confusion in the secondary.