Andrew Quarless

[call_me_ishmael]

I may be a homer, but I like Andrew Quarless more than Finley. He seems far more versatile and reliable to me.

An offense with Cobb, Jones, Nelson, Quarless and Lacy is a dynamic, league leading offense in my opinion.

What do you think?

[woodbuck27]

I may be a homer, but I like Andrew Quarless more than Finley. He seems far more versatile and reliable to me.

An offense with Cobb, Jones, Nelson, Quarless and Lacy is a dynamic, league leading offense in my opinion.

What do you think?

With Aaron Rodgers under center I'd say...not too bad.

Two of those fellas are UFA'a and next up TT has to deal with Jordy Nelson and Free Agency.

[gbgary]

I like him too...as a #2. had a good game yesterday.

[denverYooper]

Versatile is the key word with him. He looks to be developing into a 3 down player.

[Smeefers]

I'd still rather have Finley any day and twice on sunday. You can get a lot of touchdowns on third and goal with fin lined up out wide. Quar has a lot of good things about him, but he's only ever going to be good. Fin can be great. All its going to take is his skill se catching up to his body. Can't teach tall fast and strong.

[Cleft Crusty]

I'd still rather have Finley any day and twice on sunday. You can get a lot of touchdowns on third and goal with fin lined up out wide. Quar has a lot of good things about him, but he's only ever going to be good. Fin can be great. All its going to take is his skill se catching up to his body. Can't teach tall fast and strong.

This is the correct answer. Except that "The Big Fin" may be done forever. However, Packer fans can take heart - In Michigan is a TE named Funchess who is every bit the physical specimen that Finley is, and also drops critical passes. He will be available for the 2015 draft.

[bobblehead]

I'd still rather have Finley any day and twice on sunday. You can get a lot of touchdowns on third and goal with fin lined up out wide. Quar has a lot of good things about him, but he's only ever going to be good. Fin can be great. All its going to take is his skill se catching up to his body. Can't teach tall fast and strong.

I don't know. A TE that can't block and runs a 4.6 sounds a lot like a slow receiver to me.

[Smeefers]

You forgot 6' 5", 240 #'s and the fact that he's only 26 with 5 years experience. He's just getting to the meat of his career.

[Pugger]

I may be a homer, but I like Andrew Quarless more than Finley. He seems far more versatile and reliable to me.

An offense with Cobb, Jones, Nelson, Quarless and Lacy is a dynamic, league leading offense in my opinion.

What do you think?

Q might be more reliable but Finley has more natural athletic ability. JF was starting to come into his own before he got hurt so it is a damn shame. I wonder if he'll ever play again...?

[gbgary]

Q might be more reliable but Finley has more natural athletic ability. JF was starting to come into his own before he got hurt so it is a damn shame. I wonder if he'll ever play again...?

doctor told him he should be good to go recently.

[Brandon494]

I'm done with Finley but I would like a starter better then Quarless.

[denverYooper]

I'm done with Finley but I would like a starter better then Quarless.

As a pass catcher, in pass pro, a blocker? How many guys are there that are better at everything? Davis, Gronk, and Witten come to mind. You could come up with a decent list of better receiving TE or blocking TE but I'd bet he's in the mix when you get to multiple facets.

[MadtownPacker]

I'll take Quarless versus a tough defense. Finley disappears when he gets roughed up.

[Brandon494]

Draft C.J. Fiedorowicz in the 2nd or 3rd round.

[Brandon494]

As a pass catcher, in pass pro, a blocker? How many guys are there that are better at everything? Davis, Gronk, and Witten come to mind. You could come up with a decent list of better receiving TE or blocking TE but I'd bet he's in the mix when you get to multiple facets.

You talking about Finley or Ouarless?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Finley is better, but Quarless has stepped it up. For a guy who has good size and speed he sure rumble, bumble, stumbles a lot out there. Not sure why but he sure has some awkward look routes and catch attempts.

[King Friday]

Finley is a much better receiver, although Quarless is a better all around tight end. As long as we retain talent at WR and maintain focus on a capable run game, Quarless is good enough as a starting TE in GB.

[mraynrand]

I'll take Quarless versus a tough defense. Finley disappears when he gets roughed up.

He needs to show more spine

[pbmax]

He needs to show more spine

Maybe put a rod in there to stiffen it.

[KYPack]

Quarless had some fugly games early, but he has turned it around.

Good all round TE and has improved step by step all during this season.

We need him, too.

[Fritz]

I'm on the Funchess train. He makes big plays.

[woodbuck27]

I'm on the Funchess train. He makes big plays.

He makes spectacular catches that are so spectacular that even when viewed from the booth.

Their rejected as..

Booth reviewer NO. 1 ... That was an impossible catch.

Booth Reviewer NO. 2 ... Did you see that catch? Can you believe that catch??

NO.1 ... Yes and No I can't believe it !

NO.2 ... Noone could ... so ... lets let that incompletion call stand.

NO. 1 Yea right ... sure !

[bobblehead]

You forgot 6' 5", 240 #'s and the fact that he's only 26 with 5 years experience. He's just getting to the meat of his career.

6'5" and can't block. So a tall slow reciever.

[bobblehead]

Maybe put a rod in there to stiffen it.

Lets not joke about that. The way Packer players get hurt, he could have one by next tuesday.

[Pugger]

Finley is better, but Quarless has stepped it up. For a guy who has good size and speed he sure rumble, bumble, stumbles a lot out there. Not sure why but he sure has some awkward look routes and catch attempts.

Q is not one who will stretch the field like the top TEs do today. He is a great #2.

[Pugger]

Maybe put a rod in there to stiffen it.

I see what you did there. :lol:

[Joemailman]

Quarless has done some nice things lately, but he also makes mistakes. I don't think Arod's 1st INT was intended for Boykin. I think it was intended for Quarless, but he cut off his route. I like him as a #2, but he's a below average #1.

[woodbuck27]

Q is not one who will stretch the field like the top TEs do today. He is a great #2.


?? is the NO. 1 TE ??

Ted Thompson will tell us in the off season.

Maybe!?

[denverYooper]

You talking about Finley or Ouarless?

Yeah, I was talking about Quarless. I might have been getting a little ahead of myself in the throes of post-coital bliss.

But I still think he's a solid all-around TE.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Happy to have Quarless as the TE. He seems to be getting trusted more and more and he's stepping up.

[MadtownPacker]

Happy to have Quarless as the TE. He seems to be getting trusted more and more and he's stepping up.There it is! He is working his way up. Unlike Finley, the box of chocolates, cuz you never know what you're gonna get.

[woodbuck27]

Happy to have Quarless as the TE. He seems to be getting trusted more and more and he's stepping up.

For sure that's right.

He's obviously working hard of Aaron Rodgers would ignore him.

[bobblehead]

Q is not one who will stretch the field like the top TEs do today. He is a great #2.

No, he is not. But he will block for Lacy better than any of the field stretching TE's and thus a strong running game enhances play action thus stretching the field by freezing the pass rush and coverage LB's.

[bobblehead]

Quarless has done some nice things lately, but he also makes mistakes. I don't think Arod's 1st INT was intended for Boykin. I think it was intended for Quarless, but he cut off his route. I like him as a #2, but he's a below average #1.

He was occupying the spot in the zone he was supposed to. It was not his job to continue his route to the sideline where Boykin already was. Lets not go all brett favre and blame a receiver for the interceptions. ARod made a throw, and the DB made a good read to abandon his coverage and make a pick. All there was too it.

[red]

quarless probably shouldn't even be on the roster next year. whats he done in his time in green bay. two "monster" games of 66 yards

we still need a Real #1 TE, and not just another one that has "potential"

[bobblehead]

quarless probably shouldn't even be on the roster next year. whats he done in his time in green bay. two "monster" games of 66 yards

we still need a Real #1 TE, and not just another one that has "potential"

Here is the problem. Quarless is not great, but is proving serviceable. The problem with losing him would be this. He knows the offense. Has multiple years in it. He has been hurt. Anyone we bring in now has exactly one offseason to learn from scratch. Quarless needs to be retained...for a modest contract obviously, but he is better to have at this point than to not have.

[woodbuck27]

He was occupying the spot in the zone he was supposed to. It was not his job to continue his route to the sideline where Boykin already was. Lets not go all brett favre and blame a receiver for the interceptions. ARod made a throw, and the DB made a good read to abandon his coverage and make a pick. All there was too it.

A pick his mother could have made.

[red]

Here is the problem. Quarless is not great, but is proving serviceable. The problem with losing him would be this. He knows the offense. Has multiple years in it. He has been hurt. Anyone we bring in now has exactly one offseason to learn from scratch. Quarless needs to be retained...for a modest contract obviously, but he is better to have at this point than to not have.


the problem is that he's on his rookie deal, making the bare minimum, and to me, thats exactly what he's worth

i don't know if he's worth a million a year, or 4 million a year if TT goes the same route with Q as the last guy i thought was worth the bare minimum (brad jones)

in a perfect world, he would be, at best, a #2 and to me #2 TE should be up and coming guys, not guys who have never been

[bobblehead]

the problem is that he's on his rookie deal, making the bare minimum, and to me, thats exactly what he's worth

i don't know if he's worth a million a year, or 4 million a year if TT goes the same route with Q as the last guy i thought was worth the bare minimum (brad jones)

in a perfect world, he would be, at best, a #2 and to me #2 TE should be up and coming guys, not guys who have never been

I get that. But he has some useful talent. He is solid as a blocker and so far below average as a pass catcher, but showing signs of life now that he is being used that way. Because Finley was always on the field in passing situations we never got to see much of Quarless. Yes, I would be upset if we gave him 4 million a year, but say 2.5 I would rather have him than random rookie, or some other teams cast off.

[pbmax]

I think he gets a deal, especially if Finley is viewed as gone. So its possible he has to wait if he wants the max the Packers will spend on him.

Starter, part-time contributor on ST, he's get Bush money or perhaps a little more. He is a starter but his numbers are modest compared to others. If there is no Finley, there will be some budget room for a low-mid priced vet at TE.

[Bossman641]

Q is a good #2 TE, would prefer a better #1.

[Bretsky]

I thought Quarless was junk and I admit I was wrong
I think he can be a serviceable starter with a strong group of WR's now

best of luck to Finley

[Patler]

Actually, I think Finley would make a good #2 if his career continues. Too inconsistent and unreliable for the #1 spot in both blocking and receiving. I think Q can be reliable in both, though less flashy as a receiver than Finley.

Even if he is allowed to play, I fear that this injury may change Finley for ever. I have said since 2011 that his knee injury changed him. He became more guarded, less physical. That injury was virtually nothing on the panic scale in comparison to his neck injury. I'm not sure how well he will get past it mentally if he is allowed to play. That's not meant as a criticism in any way, shape or form, because if I was him, I would thank the sport for all it had given me, thank God for the blessing of a complete recovery and walk away to my family, leaving the sport behind.

[mraynrand]

perhaps people are getting too hung up on #1 and #2 designations (no jokes please), but that's to be expected because money is involved. Finley - he's not a 1 or 2 so much as he is an offensive weapon that can do things Q can't but he can't (or won't) block as well as other TEs who are themselves limited physically in the passing game. Some are done with Finley. But at a reasonable price, I'd love to have him back (no pun intended).

[Patler]

perhaps people are getting too hung up on #1 and #2 designations (no jokes please), but that's to be expected because money is involved. Finley - he's not a 1 or 2 so much as he is an offensive weapon that can do things Q can't but he can't (or won't) block as well as other TEs who are themselves limited physically in the passing game. Some are done with Finley. But at a reasonable price, I'd love to have him back (no pun intended).

I agree, to some extent. The #1 & #2 references for WRs never made a lot of sense for me, because both are on the field all the time anyway, and many teams use them somewhat interchangeably. For TEs I think it makes some sense, because the #2 TE is the guy who comes in for specific formations, but likely will play a lot fewer snaps than the #1 TE.

I agree with your description of Finley, and I think he could be a real asset due to his versatility.

[TravisWilliams23]

His ego won't let him come back at a reduced price. He thinks of himself as THE BEST TE in the league and wants to be paid accordingly. That attitude is good to motivate himself to be a great player but somehow he'll have to honestly look at what his shortcomings are. I'd argue Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Davis, and Witten are better TE's than him WITHOUT the serious neck injury. Plus, GB's past record of releasing players who've had serious neck injuries doesn't bode well for Finley's return here.

[BZnDallas]

So what are the rules on comp picks? If GB does say thank you to Fin and lets him walk in FA and he gets a huge contract somewhere do we get a 4 or better? (no disrespect to Fin)

[Joemailman]

So what are the rules on comp picks? If GB does say thank you to Fin and lets him walk in FA and he gets a huge contract somewhere do we get a 4 or better? (no disrespect to Fin)

The highest you can get is a 3, but those are rare. Likely the highest they would get is a 4.

[woodbuck27]

perhaps people are getting too hung up on #1 and #2 designations (no jokes please), but that's to be expected because money is involved. Finley - he's not a 1 or 2 so much as he is an offensive weapon that can do things Q can't but he can't (or won't) block as well as other TEs who are themselves limited physically in the passing game. Some are done with Finley. But at a reasonable price, I'd love to have him back (no pun intended).

Paranoia abounds on Packerrats.

We'll get over it...well..... some of us will.

At a reasonable price. Jermichael's ego won't allow him to come back.

[mraynrand]

Paranoia abounds on Packerrats.

We'll get over it...well..... some of us will.

Just bizarre

[mraynrand]

At a reasonable price. Jermichael's ego won't allow him to come back.


His ego won't let him come back at a reduced price. He thinks of himself as THE BEST TE in the league and wants to be paid accordingly.

I think the evidence is that TT sets a price and won' budge. I suspect that price for Fin is way lower than what Fin wants, for the reasons mentioned above. What will be interesting is whether anyone will take the chance to give him more than the Packers. There are a lot of stupid teams out there, so it's a good bet he's gone.

[run pMc]

Not sold on Quarless as your starting TE coming out of training camp. Maybe my opinion is affected by his shakier performances in games earlier in the season -- when he was still trusting the knee and getting rid of the rust -- but he's just ok. Every time he catches the ball, I'm surprised.

Finley > Quarless IMO, but I agree Finley is inconsistent. How many 'wow' plays has Quarless made vs. Finley? Does Quarless have a 100 yd game in his career? I agree with the post about how the neck injury will affect Finley's play. Assuming he gets cleared to play, will TT will sign him? I'm not sure signing players with injury histories is his style.

I think TT lets Finley go, drafts a TE, and has Quarless, Taylor, draft pick, Stoneburner and Bostick duke it out for the starting job. I think Bostick gets one more chance in TC to prove he belongs, he can't be a project forever.

[Patler]

Does Quarless have a 100 yd game in his career?

I'm not sure that is a relevant standard. In 70 regular season games, Finley only has three 100 yd games, one in 2009 and two in 2010. None since 2010.

[RashanGary]

Quarless' has played his best football this year, and he keeps getting better. I always thought he played a little stiff, but this year he looks more limber and athletic. He's not a pro-bowler, but this year he's been a good player for us. With Rodgers, Lacy and a solid group of receivers, Quarless is a nice fit for our team.

[Patler]

Quarless' has played his best football this year, and he keeps getting better. I always thought he played a little stiff, but this year he looks more limber and athletic. He's not a pro-bowler, but this year he's been a good player for us. With Rodgers, Lacy and a solid group of receivers, Quarless is a nice fit for our team.

I agree. If the Packers really are committed to their running game, and if they can keep together a group similar to Nelson, Cobb, Jones and Boykin at WR. Quarless might even be a better fit than Finley. In 2011, Quarless had surpassed Crabtree as their best blocking TE. He lost some of that following the injury, but seems to be getting it back. As long as he is reliable as a receiver, having him on the field might give them better balance and consistency, especially if Lacy develops as a receiver.

[bobblehead]

His ego won't let him come back at a reduced price. He thinks of himself as THE BEST TE in the league and wants to be paid accordingly. That attitude is good to motivate himself to be a great player but somehow he'll have to honestly look at what his shortcomings are. I'd argue Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Davis, and Witten are better TE's than him WITHOUT the serious neck injury. Plus, GB's past record of releasing players who've had serious neck injuries doesn't bode well for Finley's return here.

I'm not so sure. Finley is a weird dude. He acts TO at times, then at other times he does and says all the right things. I can't say what he will do, but if our offer is competitive with what he gets on the open market I wouldn't bet on him leaving...wouldn't bet on him staying either. Like I said he is a weird dude.

[bobblehead]

I'm not sure that is a relevant standard. In 70 regular season games, Finley only has three 100 yd games, one in 2009 and two in 2010. None since 2010.

Oh, its a relevant standard...Finley just doesn't live up to it either.

[mraynrand]

I'm not so sure. Finley is a weird dude. He acts TO at times...

That seems unfair. The worst Finley doesn't approach the worst TO. I know you probably didn't mean to equate Finley's worst with TO's worst, but I still think it's a bad comparison.