Official Divisional Games Thread

[denverYooper]

OH on pregame: "Russell Wilson's a winner". Oy.

...and it's a good thing he can run because their OL is turrible.

[woodbuck27]

Where are the NFL fans!? :grin:

[denverYooper]

Jimmy Graham rips Bruce Irvin's hat off during pregame warmups:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BduoMhQIgAAVYog.jpg:large

[denverYooper]

Jay Glazer ‏@JayGlazer 18m

First Jimmy Graham and Bruce Irvin had to be separated and we're about to show Sherman/Thomas and Graham having to be separated

[woodbuck27]

OH on pregame: "Russell Wilson's a winner". Oy.

...and it's a good thing he can run because their OL is turrible.

As it seems to be trending...The Seahawks lose today.

Sean Peyton, Drew Brees Rob Ryan and Company will be out for some "shit hot revenge" today.

[denverYooper]

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 19m

I love how everybody says the key is the Saints protecting Brees. Seattle was last in NFL in sacks per pass play allowed. Last. Saints 7th

[woodbuck27]

Jimmy Graham rips Bruce Irvin's hat off during pregame warmups:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BduoMhQIgAAVYog.jpg:large

He's got the NASTY on .... LOL.

I's be wunderrrn' if the Lad Grrraaame is a Scouut errrr Irrrisssh?

Thar fuuuuckeen Irrriiish caaan be a tad scarrrry.

[denverYooper]

Who is this #12 for the Seahawks? Never heard of him.

[denverYooper]

Harvin's injured. Shocker.

[woodbuck27]

Who is this #12 for the Seahawks? Never heard of him.

http://www.seahawks.com/team/roster.html

Now there is a question of the day.

NO. 12 for the Seattle Seahawks ?

?? Let's see:

It's Bob and Dave and Martin and Susan and Judy and Sadie and Harry and Fred and George and Allen.. . . . . . and Larry the Cable Guy and Ross and Edward and Mark and Sally and June and Martha... A bunch of Names....

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Well, watching this game, me thinks we coulda played with the Saints, but Seattle woulda kicked our ass...

[Bossman641]

Saints looking awful

[Bossman641]

Woody, the crowd in Seattle calls themselves the 12th man. I believe dy was being facetious

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Saints looking awful

That's cause Seattle cheats...

[woodbuck27]

Woody, the crowd in Seattle calls themselves the 12th man. I believe dy was being facetious

From Post #10:

?? Let's see:

It's Bob and Dave and Martin and Susan and Judy and Sadie and Harry and Fred and George and Allen.. . . . . . and Larry the Cable Guy and Ross and Edward and Mark and Sally and June and Martha... A bunch of Names....

[woodbuck27]

Woody, the crowd in Seattle calls themselves the 12th man. I believe dy was being facetious

Ohh no .... not facetious humor...HUMOR. :grin:

[woodbuck27]

Now we're getting a game of it. The Saints need to score now with the wind.

[woodbuck27]

Nope ..The Seattle 'D' again has the answer,

We can 'only' imagine having such a defense.

[woodbuck27]

Even Sean Peyton and Drew Brees don't want to go down 20 - Zip ! @ the HALF.

[woodbuck27]

There's Percy Harvin for 16 yards.

A rare Harvin sighting on the Play-By-Play sheet.

[Striker]

New Orleans was too conservative with their early playcalls. They need to get Graham involved.

Saints defense is doing the best they can, but their offense is hanging them out to dry.

[Striker]

There's no way Harvin finishes this game at this rate.

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There's no way Harvin finishes this game at this rate.

the team had to threaten to IR him just to get him to practice

the guy doesn't want to be out there, he got his money, he's the kind of guy who will do everything in his power to not have to play again

[denverYooper]

I wonder if John Lynch would want to play for the Packers next year.

[denverYooper]

There's no way Harvin finishes this game at this rate.

Eh. He's only on his second concussion of the game.

[denverYooper]

What is this "Safety position" the announcers speak of? Is that a new thing?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

What is this "Safety position" the announcers speak of? Is that a new thing?

I think it has something to do with Harvin going into a fetal position to make sure he doesn't get killed.

[pbmax]

Well, Rob Ryan doesn't seem to coordinate run defense better than Capers.

Drew Brees doesn't seem to like to throw in wet weather. Odd, for someone having gone to school at Purdue. He's been terrible with gloves, just go without.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Well, Rob Ryan doesn't seem to coordinate run defense better than Capers.

Gotta give Lynch some credit. Guy is a true beast. Saints at least are tackling.

[Guiness]

Good game to watch. Some observations...


Saints need to give up on the passing game. The rain is just too bad, all they're doing it giving away downs by trying to air it out. I think Brees ego is the problem here, he's saying 'I can throw it dammit'
Chippy, chippy, chippy game. The altercation between Kearse and an NO player (Lewis?) should have resulted in penalties, no idea why the refs ignored it. Not shoving matches, but guys taking shots at each other, seen a few WRs get shoved back to the ground after they get up
As expected, refs letting DBs mug the WR...except for a call giving the Hawks first on goal after a 3rd down incompletion!!! Lewis didn't deserve that.
Arm tackling Lynch is a stupid idea
Don't know why, but I don't like Harvin. I was calling for the Saints DB to pile on in the endzone, he did, and Harvin needed help to get off the field. I cheered, and I really don't do that.

[pbmax]

Gotta give Lynch some credit. Guy is a true beast. Saints at least are tackling.

Sure, but they have been giving up the backside on zone runs a lot. Wide open and the LB is not filling. Cost them a long run and one of the TDs.

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did i just see a ton of empty seats in seattle?

right after seattle punted for the first time in the half they showed the seattle bench and you could see about the first 10 rows behind the bench. and it sure looked like over half the seats were empty

[Rutnstrut]

Boy it's a good thing TT doesn't play free agency, otherwise GB might have a tough D like the Hawks. Also watch the hawks Center and you will see what a real center can do for a line.

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i don't understand, cliff avril played for the lions last year

how is he playing for a different team this year?

i thought only undrafted rookies were ever allowed to switch teams

[Guiness]

Seattle just missed a big opportunity there - Robinson was not touched while down, and absolutely put the ball on the ground.

And Brees with another imcompletion. Stop throwing the ball! Comment at the start of the half was "it's not the rain, it's the wind." I don't care what it is, you can't throw it so stop trying!

[Maxie the Taxi]

If it's just the wind, why is Brees wearing a glove on his throwing hand?

[Maxie the Taxi]

If the Saints score a TD here, we got a game.

[Rutnstrut]

Both QB's in this game have looked much better than Rodgers did last week.

[Guiness]

Why do they keep calling it a 1 score game?

Sorry, but down by 8, needing a TD AND a 2pt conversion is a score plus some luck. Not one score.

[Rodgers12]

Ted Thompson needs to trade 3 1st rounders, a 2nd and three 3rds for Earl Fucking Thomas. Seriously.

Thomas is better than Nick Collins was.

[Rodgers12]

Wilson looks like a "game manager" in this game.

When your defense is holding Drew Fucking Brees to 34 1st half passing yards and no TD, you oughta be up 20.

[Rodgers12]

Damn, a rare dropped pick by the great Earl Thomas.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Looked like a packer play, 2 defenders in position to make a pick and they screw the pooch, with ball landing in Saints receiver's hands.

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god i hate seattle

i hope that whole fucking town burns to the ground

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Both QB's in this game have looked much better than Rodgers did last week.

are you kidding me?

brees has looked downright horrible today

[Rutnstrut]

I believe many of the Kool-aid drinkers here also said Lynch was washed up when I wanted the Pack to get him, hmm he looks pretty damn good. Of course now it's a moot point as I think Lacy will be "adequate".

[Rutnstrut]

are you kidding me?

brees has looked downright horrible today

He hasn't looked terrible in the late second half, I would bet his numbers are even better then AR's by the time this game is over.

[Rutnstrut]

I was thinking it would be awesome if Tate fucked up the onside.

[woodbuck27]

Holy Cow !

This game is over !

[woodbuck27]

Next week San Fran @ Seattle

Should be a great one.

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well that was stupid

[woodbuck27]

This next game should be 'a Dandy'.

Who wins? Indy @ NE?

[woodbuck27]

well that was stupid

Our game Vs San Fran was a lot more exciting.

Of course we were really invested in that one.

I'll not get over that loss for a long long..................never !

[woodbuck27]

I hate to see 'the Saints' win.

I noticed one thing in that game.

Just how much Russel Wilson reminds me of Fran Tarkenton at times.

[Guiness]

Earl Thomas is singing Opera for the foreseeable future. It was laughably obvious that he got sacked there as he hopped off the field holding his balls!

[woodbuck27]

Wilson looks like a "game manager" in this game.

When your defense is holding Drew Fucking Brees to 34 1st half passing yards and no TD, you oughta be up 20.

What was going on with Drew Brees grip on the ball?

Moisture?

Gripping it a little tight? Something else?

[woodbuck27]

Earl Thomas is singing Opera for the foreseeable future. It was laughably obvious that he got sacked there as he hopped off the field holding his balls!

Hitting the high scales.

LOL

[woodbuck27]

I believe many of the Kool-aid drinkers here also said Lynch was washed up when I wanted the Pack to get him, hmm he looks pretty damn good. Of course now it's a moot point as I think Lacy will be "adequate".

Marshawn Lynch = $Money$

A Solid RB.

WE had a member here a young fella that just loved Marshawn and one of our members (name withheld) drug him throught the Halls of Packerrats.

That pleased the forum's owner at the time as it cut down on maintenance costs.

[pbmax]

Both QB's in this game have looked much better than Rodgers did last week.

Wilson 9/18 for 103, 0 and 0

Brees 24/43 (55%) for 309 and 1 and 0

Rodgers 17/26 (65%) for 177 and 1 and 0

Not much to write home about for any of them.

[woodbuck27]

god i hate seattle

i hope that whole fucking town burns to the ground

One of them had to lose and for reasons you you well know of. It had to be the Saints for this football fan.

I really don't like either of them except I do enjoy watching Russel Wilson play.

[Rutnstrut]

Wilson 9/18 for 103, 0 and 0

Brees 24/43 (55%) for 309 and 1 and 0

Rodgers 17/26 (65%) for 177 and 1 and 0

Not much to write home about for any of them.

Although I've been accused of being a troll before and was not, the above post I was trolling/baiting/stirring the pot. Was just trying to bring a little more action to the thread.

[Guiness]

Wilson 9/18 for 103, 0 and 0

Brees 24/43 (55%) for 309 and 1 and 0

Rodgers 17/26 (65%) for 177 and 1 and 0

Not much to write home about for any of them.

100 of Brees yards were garbage time and/or against a prevent-ish defense.

[woodbuck27]

Wilson 9/18 for 103, 0 and 0

Brees 24/43 (55%) for 309 and 1 and 0

Rodgers 17/26 (65%) for 177 and 1 and 0

Not much to write home about for any of them.

Next up 'the MASTER and 'the Comeback Kid'.

[woodbuck27]

This will be a real feather in his cap if Luck can overcome the TWO B's.

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100 of Brees yards were garbage time and/or against a prevent-ish defense.

don't forget the pass that was about 10 yards under thrown that 2 seahawks tipped back up into the air and into the arms of a saint for a 50 yard plus gain

should have been an int

[woodbuck27]

The Pats making it look easy but it's never that way and LUCK.

You have to literally bury that kid.

[Rutnstrut]

No one gives a shit about the Pro bowl, yet they continue to advertise the shit out of it.

[Joemailman]

Although I've been accused of being a troll before and was not, the above post I was trolling/baiting/stirring the pot. Was just trying to bring a little more action to the thread.

So you're not a troll. You were just doing what trolls do.

[Pugger]

are you kidding me?

brees has looked downright horrible today

And Wilson hasn't set the world on fire either. If the chickens didn't have Lynch they lose that game.

[Pugger]

Earl Thomas is singing Opera for the foreseeable future. It was laughably obvious that he got sacked there as he hopped off the field holding his balls!

Yes, he's a tenor now! :lol:

[Pugger]

Marshawn Lynch = $Money$

A Solid RB.

WE had a member here a young fella that just loved Marshawn and one of our members (name withheld) drug him throught the Halls of Packerrats.

That pleased the forum's owner at the time as it cut down on maintenance costs.

I still think we've got the better of it now that we have Lacy.

[Rutnstrut]

So you're not a troll. You were just doing what trolls do.

In this thread yes, before no;)

[denverYooper]

Wow. That was a huge ST gaffe for a team that's usually pretty tight there.

[Rutnstrut]

Wow. That was a huge ST gaffe for a team that's usually pretty tight there.

Perhaps slocum is "guest" coaching.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

All I know is I hope 49ers get killed tomorrow. Signed old vindictive bastard.

[ThunderDan]

That's a horrible PI call.

[ThunderDan]

Fuck that is bad on second look.

CB pins WR on the sideline balls is way under thrown. Ettelman turns and flops to the ground and gets the call.

[Guiness]

In this thread yes, before no;)

Liar

[Joemailman]

Luck is on the verge of being in the Rodgers/Brees/Brady/Manning class, if he isn't there already.

[Rutnstrut]

So how come there aren't players dropping like flies on these other playoff teams? I know the Pat's have had there own injury problems this year, but they have superior coaching to the Packers, so they overcome it. Interestingly the Pat's are the second youngest team in the NFL, behind the Packers, yet they seem to make it work, hmm what's the difference?

[Bretsky]

Hoody Genius gives NE an advantage week in and week out

DEAR MR MANNING

Hoody is coming for you !!!

[Rutnstrut]

Hoody Genius gives NE an advantage week in and week out

DEAR MR MANNING

Hoody is coming for you !!!

Yup, IMO hoody is the best coach in the NFL, past or present.

[woodbuck27]

Hoody Genius gives NE an advantage week in and week out

DEAR MR MANNING

Hoody is coming for you !!!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSX92aWCEUKa55y4ep2z1UYdCEJCNw5b 9RjN7fMGjp9DVT0ylgg0Q

Hoodie is here to ruin Peyton's fun.

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OHH !? ... Ohh ! Ohh !!

[Striker]

Marshawn Lynch = $Money$

A Solid RB.

WE had a member here a young fella that just loved Marshawn and one of our members (name withheld) drug him throught the Halls of Packerrats.

That pleased the forum's owner at the time as it cut down on maintenance costs.

Lynch was pretty bad in his final days in Buffalo.

Amazing a what a change of scene does.

[Maxie the Taxi]

So how come there aren't players dropping like flies on these other playoff teams? I know the Pat's have had there own injury problems this year, but they have superior coaching to the Packers, so they overcome it. Interestingly the Pat's are the second youngest team in the NFL, behind the Packers, yet they seem to make it work, hmm what's the difference?

The difference is NE isn't afraid to get FA to fill needs. Plus, Belichick is in a league of his own when it comes to making adjustments (both in the off season and at halftime) and game planning for specific opponents.

[denverYooper]

So how come there aren't players dropping like flies on these other playoff teams?
KC lost several players last week.


I know the Pat's have had there own injury problems this year, but they have superior coaching to the Packers, so they overcome it.
The Packers had injury problems in 2010 and overcame it to win the Superbowl. Sometimes it works out.


Interestingly the Pat's are the second youngest team in the NFL, behind the Packers, yet they seem to make it work, hmm what's the difference?

The Pats didn't have to play San Fran (yet) and their DBs hung onto the picks that were given them? Their pass rush is better? Their OL is better?

Belichick is a great coach, likely the best of this era, but the Packers and Pats aren't that far apart. By the looks of things, Green Bay seems like an AFC team -- great offense with a defense that needs to create takeaways to succeed.

[denverYooper]

Lynch was pretty bad in his final days in Buffalo.

Amazing a what a change of scene does.

This.

I don't remember him for much of anything before that huge run vs the Saints in the playoffs in 2010. IIRC, we at Packerrats had a close eye on him because he was 'almost' a Packer. Rodgers was even publicly stumping for him. But then, James Starks ran GB to glory and a Superbowl title.

If he played for Green Bay he'd probably have shredded his hammy by now. They have modern medicine in Seattle that prevents those sorts of things.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Lynch was pretty bad in his final days in Buffalo.

Amazing a what a change of scene does.

It wasn't a change of scene. Believe it or not, it was a change in his "pad level:"


Tom Brady was cool with it. So was coach Bill Belichick, once his running back took his advice midseason and lowered his pad level so his 250-pound frame wouldn't be so easy to haul down.

"Once I changed that, I started breaking tackles," explained LeGarrette Blount, New England's newly minted all-time franchise leader in single-game postseason rushing touchdowns (four).

Maybe Stubby is a genius after all.

[denverYooper]

The difference is NE isn't afraid to get FA to fill needs. Plus, Belichick is in a league of his own when it comes to making adjustments (both in the off season and at halftime) and game planning for specific opponents.

Which needs would those be, and which players filled those needs in FA? DJ Williams, Austin Collie, or Matthew Mulligan?

[denverYooper]

Belichick would have used Datone Jones more often and more effectively.

I watched Chandler Jones and Cameron Jordan play so well yesterday and saw Datone Jones in a year or 2. As long as Green Bay's SC staff keeps their hands off of him, he'll be a terror.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Which needs would those be, and which players filled those needs in FA? DJ Williams, Austin Collie, or Matthew Mulligan?

How about Blount? Mulligan played 33 of the 73 snaps against the Colts. Collie had a huge reception. NE lost Welker, Green-Ellis and Woodhead and had huge injuries as TE and NT, yet somehow never missed a beat. Must be doing something right.

[denverYooper]

How about Blount? Mulligan played 33 of the 73 snaps against the Colts. Collie had a huge reception. NE lost Welker, Green-Ellis and Woodhead and had huge injuries as TE and NT, yet somehow never missed a beat. Must be doing something right.

Blount was a trade 2 years ago and would have not had that kind of game against San Fran's D.

I wish the Packers had kept Mulligan.

Jarrett Boykin was an FA and >>> Collie.

NE missed beats. You just weren't listening.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Blount was a trade 2 years ago and would have not had that kind of game against San Fran's D.

I wish the Packers had kept Mulligan.

Jarrett Boykin was an FA and >>> Collie.

NE missed beats. You just weren't listening.

Both teams have been doing well over the past 20 years. NE is 237-114. We are 220-128-1. NE went to Super Bowl 5 times and won three. We went three times and won two. I guess that's a few beats we missed compared to them. Still, we're nitpicking and that's what we do this time of year.

[bobblehead]

Hoody Genius gives NE an advantage week in and week out

DEAR MR MANNING

Hoody is coming for you !!!

I still stand by parcells as best ever...but that isn't why I am posting. Anyone notice that Hoody won't pay skill guys. He lines up crap and retreads at RB and WR and gets er done with a strong OL and great QB. I'm just saying. I keep saying its the OL, not the RB, and hoody proves my point. I want our OT to be healthy, but I wouldn't cry if TT used his only big FA signing on a monster tackle and lets JJones walk. Don't reup Jordy, franchise him once. Keep getting the Jarrett Boykins of the world to produce with Rodgers throwing it to them, and run the ball well. With a great OL, I think Rodgers can make guys like Edelman look great same as Brady.

[bobblehead]

Which needs would those be, and which players filled those needs in FA? DJ Williams, Austin Collie, or Matthew Mulligan?

Austin Collie is one good hit away from creating another national scene as to whether he is brain dead or not.

[bobblehead]

Belichick would have used Datone Jones more often and more effectively.

I watched Chandler Jones and Cameron Jordan play so well yesterday and saw Datone Jones in a year or 2. As long as Green Bay's SC staff keeps their hands off of him, he'll be a terror.

I agree with this. YOu gotta play the young man and take some lumps with him.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I still stand by parcells as best ever...but that isn't why I am posting. Anyone notice that Hoody won't pay skill guys. He lines up crap and retreads at RB and WR and gets er done with a strong OL and great QB. I'm just saying. I keep saying its the OL, not the RB, and hoody proves my point. I want our OT to be healthy, but I wouldn't cry if TT used his only big FA signing on a monster tackle and lets JJones walk. Don't reup Jordy, franchise him once. Keep getting the Jarrett Boykins of the world to produce with Rodgers throwing it to them, and run the ball well. With a great OL, I think Rodgers can make guys like Edelman look great same as Brady.

I don't know. I think you underestimate Hoody/Brady and over-estimate Stubby/Rodgers. Hoody is not married to any particular system or game plan. He adjusts to fit the players he has, then finds the missing but necessary pieces to make it work. Seems like Stubby sticks to his idea of the way things should be done and doesn't adjust. Stubby is an ideologue; Hoody is pragmatic.

Two examples, Stubby will never abandon his emphasis on throwing downfield trying to make big plays. He tried it even when Rodgers, Cobb and Jones were hurt. Hoody went that route a few years ago then switched strategy to match his personnel. Now he's a dink and dunk, rushing offense.

Second, I think Stubby is married to the 3-4 defense despite his personnel because that's what he believes in. A few years ago Hoody switched to a 4-3 for typical, pragmatic reasons:


"We wanted a lot of carryover between our run responsibilities and run fits, and some of our pressure defenses and things like that. We'll transition and build into some of our odds fronts, but we felt like in trying to evaluate young players, asking them to learn one system in a 3-4 and then learn another system in nickel [was too much]. As you know, we were in nickel defense just as much as we were 3-4 defense because of teams using multiple receivers on early downs and two-minute and all those kind of things.

"So we felt like it would be a better opportunity to evaluate our players and not try to over-install and put in a ton of defense. Try to cut it down a little bit and see if we could execute it better. Certainly, we have a long way to go but I do feel like we're making progress, and I think our players at least understand what we're doing.

"There are so many intricacies to a 3-4 defense that I just didn't know if we'd be ready to handle them this year. Probably wouldn't have been, to be honest with you."
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4706060/belichick-explains-d-switch-on-sirius

I think the 3-4 is here to stay in Green Bay as long as Stubby is here, despite the fact that TT's youthful team-building philosophy contradicts what Capers needs to make the 3-4 work well.

Just my opinion.

[pbmax]

Perhaps slocum is "guest" coaching.

Actually, that play is one of the few things he can teach. Onside and trick plays have been OK. Day in day out competence has been fleeting.

[pbmax]

Maxie, great find on that bit. Precisely the kind of tinkering that might help a young D and solve some of the split personality of the D line.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Maxie, great find on that bit. Precisely the kind of tinkering that might help a young D and solve some of the split personality of the D line.

I think you're right, but will Stubby?

[Maxie the Taxi]

I also think Carolina is going to beat SF Fortywhiners.

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OMG

i LOVE carolinas defense

they just tried to break crabtrees neck, they did just break the fullbacks leg, and they tried to fuck up gore on his one catch

and they drilled kap

they're just trying to kick the shit out of the 9ers

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and that is a horrible penalty

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and there is how you have safety help on davis

[Maxie the Taxi]

And once again the refs change the course of history.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Now that's cheater's proof and how you defense Kappydick.

[pbmax]

I think you're right, but will Stubby?

Its a tough question. Capers has an argument: this system works, why are we screwing with it?

Of course, M3 and T2 have been there longer, have already setup the organization and its philosophy and can fairly ask, "as we made clear we need yo to make this work in our operating environment".

It could be a case that a mutual parting of ways would be a good thing unless they have something specific in mind to change that would make it work with younger players like Hoody did.

[bobblehead]

and that is a horrible penalty

4thd down, SF was handed 3 points by keeping a drive alive and moving to FG range. Officials already playing a heavy role.

[pbmax]

Newton's INT was an example of why being ABLE to throw the ball is not the same as knowing WHEN to throw it.

Heck of a throw off back foot but it was late and high.

[red]

WOW

refs are taking over the game

ticky tack PI penalty, or defensive holding on the one play

and that was the weakest head butt i've ever seen

[Maxie the Taxi]

This game is officiating like the NBA. Why don't they just declare 40whiners the win.

[Maxie the Taxi]

You know, with all the delays due to reviews, injuries, flags, referee conferences, commercials, etc. I'm losing my interest in NFL games like this. Not to mention the pansy calls and pseudo-touchfootball rules.

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This game is officiating like the NBA. Why don't they just declare 40whiners the win.

it sure looks like they are trying to let the 9ers win

pushing and shoving after every play and only one team is getting flagged, something smells bad

i think it would be great someday to just see the crowd get so fed up that they just rush the field and pull a couple of officials apart. in brazil last year the crowd stormed the field, beheaded the ref and put his head on a stack at midfield

that would be fun to see

of course the ref did pull out a knife and stab a player to death before the crowd rushed the field to cut off his head, so they had reason

and yes, this is the same country that will be holding the biggest sporting event in the world this summer

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You know, with all the delays due to reviews, injuries, flags, referee conferences, commercials, etc. I'm losing my interest in NFL games like this. Not to mention the pansy calls and pseudo-touchfootball rules.

you aren't alone

and i think the nfl is gonna find that out someday soon

[pbmax]

If Newton figures out NFL defenses like the 49ers, look out.

[pbmax]

Can a fireplug actually be a swiss army knife Troy?

[Rutnstrut]

Both of these teams look so much more dynamic than the Packers, IMO that's coaching.

[red]

refs miss another very clear helmet 2 helmet

[bobblehead]

it sure looks like they are trying to let the 9ers win

pushing and shoving after every play and only one team is getting flagged, something smells bad

i think it would be great someday to just see the crowd get so fed up that they just rush the field and pull a couple of officials apart. in brazil last year the crowd stormed the field, beheaded the ref and put his head on a stack at midfield

that would be fun to see

of course the ref did pull out a knife and stab a player to death before the crowd rushed the field to cut off his head, so they had reason

and yes, this is the same country that will be holding the biggest sporting event in the world this summer

In fairness, I think Carolina is being a bit the aggressor, trying show they belong. They won't stop, just like that article, they are daring the refs to call it on every play.

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Can a fireplug actually be a swiss army knife Troy?

i think he said buttplug

[bobblehead]

Both of these teams look so much more dynamic than the Packers, IMO that's coaching.

They are run first physical defenses. I agree to an extent that the swag is coaching, but remember, the one dynamic team was <> this close to not beating the team you think isn't in the same class.

[pbmax]

Both of these teams look so much more dynamic than the Packers, IMO that's coaching.

In the red zone they look less imaginative than the red zone impaired Packers O.

[pbmax]

San Fran invited that sneak off the right cheek of the center. They then were able to give Ahmad Brooks a clean shot at Newton's head.

[red]

i would like to mention that i really wanted ahmad brooks we he came out

he was taken in the supplemental draft. very rare talent when he came out

[red]

well, hyde isn't alone now

[pbmax]

Steve Smith is a wizard. Like Driver an Jennings combined.

[red]

yup we couldn't do that last week

[pbmax]

Steve Smith is a wizard. Like Driver an Jennings combined.

Actually, the throw was better than the catch.

[pbmax]

Gave Smith a clean release. Is Smith too small and quick to jam?

Might have been because of single safety.

[pbmax]

Kapernick moving is NOT accurate. That should be the focus of the pass D.

[denverYooper]

Can a fireplug actually be a swiss army knife Troy?

LOL. #FOAUD

[pbmax]

Boldin with a nice, never called cheap shove.

[pbmax]

Worse helmet look:

1. Matte finish like Vikes and Jags

2. Metallic sparkles like Panthers

?

[denverYooper]

Still, we're nitpicking and that's what we do this time of year.

For sure Maxie. While I don't agree our take on the differences in player procurement being a big reason for the difference between the two teams, your idea that Belichick's willingness to constantly tinker with fitting those players in the team's gameplan is superb and IMO gets at what makes him the best coach of this era.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

That shit was funny...

[pbmax]

With the exception of the fake handoff, that was some unimaginative short yardage play calling.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Can you imagine what packers would look like with existing offense and either of these two defenses?

[MJZiggy]

Just a thought...If you've already failed to punch it in through the middle of the dog pile six times, maybe try something else...

[denverYooper]

Can you imagine what packers would look like with existing offense and either of these two defenses?

Don't tease us.

[denverYooper]

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1m

Can someone get Troy Aikman's high horse some water?

[denverYooper]

LOL https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdzYhOCIYAA7_hE.jpg

[Rutnstrut]

Been some very blatant no calls by the refs.

[pbmax]

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 1m

Can someone get Troy Aikman's high horse some water?

What was Troy miffed about?

[woodbuck27]

That Kaepernick. Isn't he something. ;-)

If he was named after a tool he might be Colin 'the Machete' Kaepernick.

That slasher is really really good.

The San Francisco 49ers isn't the frozen team we saw in Green Bay last Sunday. This team is focused on slapping the Panthers; and taking down Seattle's Seattle pants and spanking them next week in Seattle.

I'm starting to feel a San Francisco 49ers and New England Patriots Super Bowl

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

The tackling just looks so much crisper/cleaner, on both teams, as compared to the packers. Why o why is the packer's tackling so crappy?

[denverYooper]

What was Troy miffed about?

Not sure, but it was around the time of the PI on CAR in the EZ.

[pittstang5]

The tackling just looks so much crisper/cleaner, on both teams, as compared to the packers. Why o why is the packer's tackling so crappy?

Slocum....

[denverYooper]

That Kaepernick. Isn't he something. ;-)

If he was named after a tool he might be Colin 'the Machete' Kaepernick.

That slasher is really really good.

The San Francisco 49ers isn't the frozen team we saw in Green Bay last Sunday. This team is focused on slapping the Panthers; and taking down Seattle's Seattle pants and spanking them next week in Seattle.

I'm starting to feel a San Francisco 49ers and New England Patriots Super Bowl

Weren't you just feeling good about your Broncos-Seahawks superbowl pick after the SEA-NO game yesterday?

[channtheman]

Anquan Boldin talks trash and head butts opposing players and never gets called for it. Meanwhile, someone on the Panthers did it earlier and was immediately flagged. Troy was miffed about that.

So far, the game has been called in the 49ers favor quite a bit. Anyone wonder what matchup the NFL wants next week?

[pittstang5]

I so loathe the 49ers....

[pbmax]

That last scramble from Kap shows how the Packers win with a healthy LB in the middle of the field instead of injured Mulumba. Kuechly forced him out after 8 yards after DE lost contain on pass rush.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

That last scramble from Kap shows how the Packers win with a healthy LB in the middle of the field instead of injured Mulumba. Kuechly forced him out after 8 yards after DE lost contain on pass rush.

A healthy LB not currently on Packers team?

[bobblehead]

Boldin with a nice, never called cheap shove.

The officials changed the complexion of this game big time. By allowing the Boldin headbutt (that they called on carolina not 1 hour earlier) and then ignoring the carolina guys pointing out the 12 men in the huddle they sent carolina to the locker room feeling like they aren't given a fair chance. Its showing in the body language and the results on the field.

[Guiness]

Worse helmet look:

1. Matte finish like Vikes and Jags

2. Metallic sparkles like Panthers

?

Carbon Fiber look Seahawks

[denverYooper]

That last scramble from Kap shows how the Packers win with a healthy LB in the middle of the field instead of injured Mulumba. Kuechly forced him out after 8 yards after DE lost contain on pass rush.

Ha. They showed the replay of that earlier in the game and it was painful watching Mulumba power-limp after Kap. I also noticed that Gore had a hold on Bush, but the Packers got away with their share in the game, so I can't complain too much.

[bobblehead]

The tackling just looks so much crisper/cleaner, on both teams, as compared to the packers. Why o why is the packer's tackling so crappy?

Our D held the 9ers better than the carolina D is. I think they will finish with over 23 points.

[Rutnstrut]

Our D held the 9ers better than the carolina D is. I think they will finish with over 23 points.

Packers D was aided by crappy weather.

[pbmax]

The officials changed the complexion of this game big time. By allowing the Boldin headbutt (that they called on carolina not 1 hour earlier) and then ignoring the carolina guys pointing out the 12 men in the huddle they sent carolina to the locker room feeling like they aren't given a fair chance. Its showing in the body language and the results on the field.

Let me quote McCarthy: Losing mentality.

Same as Badger whining over Pac 12 refs. You have to prepare so as not to rely on the refs. Forget about it, move on.

[denverYooper]

Our D held the 9ers better than the carolina D is. I think they will finish with over 23 points.

Well, they're at 23 with 8 minutes left.

[pbmax]

Packers D was aided by crappy weather.

Weather is same for both and harder for defense in pursuit. Easier for O that knows where its feet are going.

[denverYooper]

Packers D was aided by crappy weather.

But hampered by injuries.

[Guiness]

Apparently only 3 companies sprang for commercials during this game and they're rotating them. McDonald's 'Whaaaat', Budweiser Crown with 'fire roasted caramel malt' and the a Nissan SUV running over snowmen. Oh, and a promo for True Detective. Just about lost my mind during SF's last drive with three timeouts.

[pbmax]

Newton is now officially out of sync. Guy was open, throw was late.

[pbmax]

Apparently only 3 companies sprang for commercials during this game and they're rotating them. McDonald's 'Whaaaat', Budweiser Crown with 'fire roasted caramel malt' and the a Nissan SUV running over snowmen. Oh, and a promo for True Detective. Just about lost my mind during SF's last drive with three timeouts.

I have VW Spanish lessons, Budweiser know your brewer, T-Mobile ad for unexplained EFT payments.

[red]

Let me quote McCarthy: Losing mentality.

Same as Badger whining over Pac 12 refs. You have to prepare so as not to rely on the refs. Forget about it, move on.

carolina wasn't allowed to play the game their way since the first whistle. panthers came out fired up and aggresive, and ticky tack call after ticky tack call took the steam right out of them imo

either that was the greatest jump off the edge of all time, or it was an uncalled offsides on san fran. de took 2 steps before the ball was even snapped

[pbmax]

Newton is watching the rush now, he is coming apart at the seams. Need to mix in run. Officials call roughing to even out the flags :lol:

[red]

and that is whats wrong with the nfl

another judgement call by the refs just turns the game on its head

time to face facts, this is a ref driven league

[red]

lets sign that guy, he actually did something i didn't think safeties were allowed to do that

[denverYooper]

That was a horrible throw from Newton.

[pbmax]

carolina wasn't allowed to play the game their way since the first whistle. panthers came out fired up and aggresive, and ticky tack call after ticky tack call took the steam right out of them imo

either that was the greatest jump off the edge of all time, or it was an uncalled offsides on san fran. de took 2 steps before the ball was even snapped

Newton is not changing his cadence. He just let Aldon Smith get a jump on the LT by using the same cadence 3 plays in a row. One movement then one signal, hike.

[mraynrand]

Let me quote McCarthy: Losing mentality.

Same as Badger whining over Pac 12 refs. You have to prepare so as not to rely on the refs. Forget about it, move on.

Complaining about refs is best left for Russia-USA basketball games and end-of-the game, game-altering missed/terrible calls (e.g. '98 SF, '12 SEA.)

[mraynrand]

Vernon Davis >>> A.J. Hawk

[Guiness]

carolina wasn't allowed to play the game their way since the first whistle. panthers came out fired up and aggresive, and ticky tack call after ticky tack call took the steam right out of them imo

either that was the greatest jump off the edge of all time, or it was an uncalled offsides on san fran. de took 2 steps before the ball was even snapped

gf called out the offside as well, he was definitely moving well before the snap. Where was he lined up? Did he have his hand in the dirt or was he a couple yards off the line?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

That should be ball game...god I hate the 49ers...

[pbmax]

I have VW Spanish lessons, Budweiser know your brewer, T-Mobile ad for unexplained EFT payments.

Also have Miller Lite old cans commercial (should make them old pull tabs).

[MJZiggy]

Vernon Davis >>> A.J. Hawk

Ummm...they aren't even on the same side of the ball.

[MJZiggy]

Also have Miller Lite old cans commercial (should make them old pull tabs).

I have those plus a stupid movie I don't want to see.

[red]

gf called out the offside as well, he was definitely moving well before the snap. Where was he lined up? Did he have his hand in the dirt or was he a couple yards off the line?

either he was lined up a couple yards off the line, or he was offsides because he was in full stride when the ball was snapped

[Guiness]

That helmet to helmet call could've been game changing. Going by the rules, I think it was the right call, but how hard is it for a defender to avoid that? He was engaged with a blocker driving to the QB, who turned into him.

[red]

I have those plus a stupid movie I don't want to see.

i am so sick of that little black guy, he's everywhere these days and he's so fucking annoying in eveything

[Guiness]

I have those plus a stupid movie I don't want to see.

But are you guys getting the same 3 or 4 in a rotation? Yesterday and today same damn commercials.

I'm going to break out my VCR and tape delay the second game!

[bobblehead]

Packers D was aided by crappy weather.

Sorry, it was cold, not 6" of mud. Crappy weather affects both units.

[red]

That helmet to helmet call could've been game changing. Going by the rules, I think it was the right call, but how hard is it for a defender to avoid that? He was engaged with a blocker driving to the QB, who turned into him.

its a bs rule, when the defender is moving in one direction and the offensive guy moves his head into the path of the other guys head. if cam hadn't tried to spin at the last moment and drop his head, then the defender doesn't come close to hitting him in the head

theres nothing a defender can do in that situation, thats why its a bad rule

[mraynrand]

Ummm...they aren't even on the same side of the ball.

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/72/92872-050-83BC7E89.jpg

[pbmax]

49ers are in the Panthers head. They are pulling juvenile crap and the Panthers are caught reacting.

[denverYooper]

Also have Miller Lite old cans commercial (should make them old pull tabs).

I've got those and Papa John's. Manning owns a bunch of franchises now so we get a ton of those during football games.

[red]

Sorry, it was cold, not 6" of mud. Crappy weather affects both units.

sorry, but it effects the guys on the team that thinks 40 degrees is the coldest they've ever felt, vs the guys that live in the area where it can get down around zero routinely.

[bobblehead]

Let me quote McCarthy: Losing mentality.

Same as Badger whining over Pac 12 refs. You have to prepare so as not to rely on the refs. Forget about it, move on.

Easy to say, but when you are super pumped, come into a game to establish you belong and the refs call it that way it affects you. Should it, no, does it, yes. Losing mentality? A bit, but again, I watched this happen in the NBA through the Jordan years to the point that Mark Jackson was standing at half court with his shorts pulled down while Jordan dunked at the other end in an "amazing" comeback. It ruins the game. It changes the culture of the game to money first, winning second.

I understand you have to tell your team its "loser mentality" and you must do everything you can to combat the mental toll of it, but the honest truth is that in the end it affects you.

[bobblehead]

Newton is watching the rush now, he is coming apart at the seams. Need to mix in run. Officials call roughing to even out the flags :lol:

They were trying to create the NBA exciting finish :) Its good for ratings, but Seattle vs. SF is what the networks wanted from week 1.

[pbmax]

Easy to say, but when you are super pumped, come into a game to establish you belong and the refs call it that way it affects you. Should it, no, does it, yes. Losing mentality? A bit, but again, I watched this happen in the NBA through the Jordan years to the point that Mark Jackson was standing at half court with his shorts pulled down while Jordan dunked at the other end in an "amazing" comeback. It ruins the game. It changes the culture of the game to money first, winning second.

I understand you have to tell your team its "loser mentality" and you must do everything you can to combat the mental toll of it, but the honest truth is that in the end it affects you.

Of course, but every team needs to learn to ride that roller coaster. Its a rite of passage.

[red]

wow, bruno mars is black?

i thought he was one of those mellow ass boring white guy singers?

[bobblehead]

its a bs rule, when the defender is moving in one direction and the offensive guy moves his head into the path of the other guys head. if cam hadn't tried to spin at the last moment and drop his head, then the defender doesn't come close to hitting him in the head

theres nothing a defender can do in that situation, thats why its a bad rule

Technically Cam headbutted the defender...should have been a penalty on him.

[bobblehead]

49ers are in the Panthers head. They are pulling juvenile crap and the Panthers are caught reacting.

Or are the officials in the Panthers head? Letting the other team in your head is for losers :P

[red]

blah

i really wanted someone to kick the shit out of seattle, but i wanted someone to kick the shit out of san fran too

next week might be a no win situation for me. might have to leave the tv off

[red]

Technically Cam headbutted the defender...should have been a penalty on him.

exactly, but it will never, EVER be called that way

[bobblehead]

sorry, but it effects the guys on the team that thinks 40 degrees is the coldest they've ever felt, vs the guys that live in the area where it can get down around zero routinely.

But Rodgers is a Cali guy. Only lives in Wisconsin during the season. Sorry, but the reason our D held them in check is because the officials only called a couple penalties on our DB's who were acting like they were Richard Sherman the whole game. Devon House is going to sign with Seattle in the offseason based on that game.

[pbmax]

Or are the officials in the Panthers head? Letting the other team in your head is for losers :P

It is. But everyone knows, from pee-wee on up that the retaliator gets the flag. Even siblings know that.

[denverYooper]

blah

i really wanted someone to kick the shit out of seattle, but i wanted someone to kick the shit out of san fran too

next week might be a no win situation for me. might have to leave the tv off

Seattle wins then loses to AFC team. It's the only way.

[bobblehead]

exactly, but it will never, EVER be called that way

Yea, I was joking. It should have been a no flag because there was simply no way the defender could have avoided the contact. Next tactic is going to be QB's head diving into defenders helmets to steal a call....sort of like the flop in the NBA.

[Guiness]

Never heard that call before, I think he said "unnecessary roughness, attempting to strike and opponent'.

Watched this one to the end, really thought someone from Carolina was going to goon an SF player!

[pbmax]

Panthers could have used a tightly called game to their advantage at home, but lost their cool too often.

[Iron Mike]

Seattle wins then loses to AFC team. It's the only way.

Then Seattle fans spend the rest of eternity whining about the officiating in the SB....

[bobblehead]

It is. But everyone knows, from pee-wee on up that the retaliator gets the flag. Even siblings know that.

I was referring to the headbutt non call on Boldin when the ref was 2 feet away. That was simply not calling something you called carolina for earlier.

Incidentally to follow through on my conspiracy theory, the NFL really wants Brady/Manning. Rivers and the Chargers will get hosed by the officials this game.

[Rutnstrut]

Sorry, it was cold, not 6" of mud. Crappy weather affects both units.

But it aids a defense much more.

[mraynrand]

Carolina defense gives up 23 points. UNSOUND! Fire the DC! Blood in the water!

[mraynrand]

But it aids a defense much more.

Like Detroit at Philly this year in the snow?

[mraynrand]

next week might be a no win situation for me. might have to leave the tv off

I DVR the games and then blow through them in 20-25 minutes. I know what happens, and I only have to suppress the gag reflex for 20-25 minutes (hell, that might beat Harlan's record!).

[SMBASS]

I was referring to the headbutt non call on Boldin when the ref was 2 feet away. That was simply not calling something you called carolina for earlier.

Incidentally to follow through on my conspiracy theory, the NFL really wants Brady/Manning. Rivers and the Chargers will get hosed by the officials this game.

Yep, one way or another the "National Fixed League" is going to have their wet dream matchups for the championship games next week.

[pbmax]

I was referring to the headbutt non call on Boldin when the ref was 2 feet away. That was simply not calling something you called carolina for earlier.

Incidentally to follow through on my conspiracy theory, the NFL really wants Brady/Manning. Rivers and the Chargers will get hosed by the officials this game.

Was it the same ref? Because that is not normally called in face to face confrontations. I think the first call was ridiculous. The second non-call sound.

I would not be opposed to outlawing it specifically just to avoid escalation, but that would be in future games.

[mraynrand]

Yep, one way or another the "National Fixed League" is going to have their wet dream matchups for the championship games next week.

Right. As though the 49ers weren't obviously superior to Carolina. Had to be a fix for them to win that game. Same goes for Seattle - NO was obviously better, but the NFL wants it's dream matchup. Funny how all the co-conspirators never ever reveal or let slip one shred of proof of their nefarious misdeeds. They probably are as careful as the guys who rigged the World Trade Center with explosives on 9/11.

[pbmax]

That was not a catch. Did the ball hit the ground after being pulled out? If yes, incomplete, third down.

[red]

LOL

still no clue what a catch is anymore

[pbmax]

LOL

still no clue what a catch is anymore

I don't think he had control and his butt hit the ground before he had it. Only point of contention is why it took defender a couple of pulls to yank ball out.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Right. As though the 49ers weren't obviously superior to Carolina. Had to be a fix for them to win that game. Same goes for Seattle - NO was obviously better, but the NFL wants it's dream matchup. Funny how all the co-conspirators never ever reveal or let slip one shred of proof of their nefarious misdeeds. They probably are as careful as the guys who rigged the World Trade Center with explosives on 9/11.

Which mountain is that in your avartar?

[ThunderDan]

That was not a FG. Part of the ball was outside the goal posts.

[channtheman]

Right. As though the 49ers weren't obviously superior to Carolina. Had to be a fix for them to win that game. Same goes for Seattle - NO was obviously better, but the NFL wants it's dream matchup. Funny how all the co-conspirators never ever reveal or let slip one shred of proof of their nefarious misdeeds. They probably are as careful as the guys who rigged the World Trade Center with explosives on 9/11.


Do buildings collapse like that when a plane hits them?

[ThunderDan]

Do buildings collapse like that when a plane hits them?

Do buildings not collapse like that?

The data set on planes flying into skyscrapers is so small who actually knows.

[red]

well, i'm not impressed with the chargers at all

[pbmax]

well, i'm not impressed with the chargers at all

How about now (17-7)?

[channtheman]

Huge 3rd down coming up. Stop Broncos, Chargers are in this yet.

WOW! Very late flag there.

[Striker]

Ask for a flag, and ye shall receive it.

[red]

welker would have had to be 30 feet tall with a 96 inch vertical to catch that ball

horrible call

now the refs are fucking up this game

[channtheman]

Un-catchable by Welker, and didn't look like PI anyway.

[channtheman]

Gotta give it to Peyton, eh NFL? He's shown he can't win in the playoffs without your help.

[pbmax]

I dislike X Box 1 now.

[red]

I dislike X Box 1 now.

why, what did they do

for me it was the $500 price tag and the monthly subscription fee to use any of those features that made the thing cost 500 in the first place

[woodbuck27]

Boy Keenan Allen looks good.

Again. He's been outstanding over the last 2 months.

Wow there's his second TD of the game. I think he's >100 yards receiving in the second half.

[bobblehead]

But it aids a defense much more.

Yea, says you. Proof? Can you show me a correlation between gametime temperature and scoring?

[bobblehead]

Was it the same ref? Because that is not normally called in face to face confrontations. I think the first call was ridiculous. The second non-call sound.

I would not be opposed to outlawing it specifically just to avoid escalation, but that would be in future games.

I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the ref that watched the second one was aware that carolina got a flag for it earlier...unless they flew him in at halftime.

[woodbuck27]

Yea, says you. Proof? Can you show me a correlation between gametime temperature and scoring?

Here you go:

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2012/01/how-does-temperature-affect-road-teams.html

[Guiness]

SD's defense laid a huge egg there, allowing the Broncos to get that TD right back. Yes, they got some help from the refs, but didn't get a stop despite having three other tries.

And SD recovers the onside - might be a game yet!

[bobblehead]

Right. As though the 49ers weren't obviously superior to Carolina. Had to be a fix for them to win that game. Same goes for Seattle - NO was obviously better, but the NFL wants it's dream matchup. Funny how all the co-conspirators never ever reveal or let slip one shred of proof of their nefarious misdeeds. They probably are as careful as the guys who rigged the World Trade Center with explosives on 9/11.

Actually an NBA referee did once about 7? years ago. That goofy center John Sally also said it once. As for the Seattle/NO game, I would ask you...in a league that has become dominant for passing, do you think that officiating might have something to do with Brees being shut out for 50+ minutes and not getting a score until the game was decided? How about Rivers, who is playing very well lately, having 1 yard passing in the first half? I simply think the officiating is completely different in the playoffs than it was all season long. If we didn't have Devon House committing penalties on every play we might have been blown out. House is brilliant or lucky, not sure which.

[Guiness]

why, what did they do

for me it was the $500 price tag and the monthly subscription fee to use any of those features that made the thing cost 500 in the first place

XBox One "Game changing play of the week" was Kap's run at the end of the game to put them in range for the FG.

[red]

XBox One "Game changing play of the week" was Kap's run at the end of the game to put them in range for the FG.

i see

yup, that would do it

[bobblehead]

Do buildings not collapse like that?

The data set on planes flying into skyscrapers is so small who actually knows.

Living in Las Vegas, I have witnessed 4 implosions of large buildings live. While I am not a 9/11 truther, I will say this. Those looked a lot more like implosions than a standard building collapsing.

[bobblehead]

Here you go:

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2012/01/how-does-temperature-affect-road-teams.html

Scoring, not winning.

[Guiness]

How the hell does that happen?

3rd and 17...24 yard completion.

[channtheman]

How the hell does that happen?

3rd and 17...24 yard completion.


Right? Luckily, with the earlier incompletion and then the Bronco going out of bounds, San Diego still has enough timeouts to stop Denver. And that is the game.

[channtheman]

I would have gone for another onside, btw.

[pbmax]

why, what did they do

for me it was the $500 price tag and the monthly subscription fee to use any of those features that made the thing cost 500 in the first place

Made Kapernick's run for a first down their clutch video game thumb of the week or something.

[denverYooper]

Hmmm... Now to keep an eye on tickets to go see Manning-Brady for the dance. I might pull the trigger if I can snag a reasonable single. SA field is about a 20 minute bus ride from my burb.

[denverYooper]

Andrew Siciliano ‏@AndrewSiciliano 33m

Peyton asked if he thinks about his neck injury: "What's weighing on my mind is how soon I can get a Bud Light in my mouth after this win."

[Freak Out]

Andrew Siciliano ‏@AndrewSiciliano 33m

Peyton asked if he thinks about his neck injury: "What's weighing on my mind is how soon I can get a Bud Light in my mouth after this win."

LOL. Awesome answer but a shitty beer.

[Freak Out]

LOL. Awesome answer but a shitty beer.

The guy lives in Denver for fucks sake...great local beer. No....not Coors.

[red]

new respect for peyton

[red]

he should go for a new belgium tripple though. it'll fuck you up faster

[denverYooper]

he should go for a new belgium tripple though. it'll fuck you up faster

That's one of my go-tos. 7.8% and I can get a 6 for 8.69.

[mraynrand]

Actually an NBA referee did once about 7? years ago. That goofy center John Sally also said it once. As for the Seattle/NO game, I would ask you...in a league that has become dominant for passing, do you think that officiating might have something to do with Brees being shut out for 50+ minutes and not getting a score until the game was decided? How about Rivers, who is playing very well lately, having 1 yard passing in the first half? I simply think the officiating is completely different in the playoffs than it was all season long. If we didn't have Devon House committing penalties on every play we might have been blown out. House is brilliant or lucky, not sure which.

Hey, maybe it was the 45 mile an hour winds and rain that affected a dome team that struggles mightily outdoors. Oh, but wait, weather doesn't affect scoring (*chortle*) so it must be a conspiracy. Maybe playoff football is just tighter because better teams play each other with everything on the line. The team that score 606 and set a record only score 24 points. Maybe the refs bet the under on total points??

[mraynrand]

Which mountain is that in your avartar?


That's liberty peak in the Ruby mountains near Elko Nevada. Below is Lake Favre.

[red]

That's liberty peak in the Ruby mountains near Elko Nevada. Below is Lake Favre.

bet that lake turns over a lot in the fall