Former Packers still pursuing the dream

[Fosco33]

Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein

San Francisco #49ers are signing former #Packers K Anders Carlson to their practice squad, source said. Niners adding some insurance after Matthew Wright injured his shoulder last week.

I’ll stay on record that I thought he was ok and could’ve been decent over time.

[run pMc]

Well Jake Moody got hurt in the AZ game and it cost them that loss, I suppose having an extra K gives them insurance. I don't know if Carlson is better than Matthew Wright.
For everyone grousing about Narveson, Greg Joseph missed a few kicks, and last night Greg Zuerlein missed two FG's (which would have been the difference in the game). Ol' Legatron also missed a 50 yard game winner against DEN earlier this year.


As for Adams, I don't think he's drama. When he didn't get an extension before his last season, he cut off talks. He always wanted to play with his buddy Carr, and was a Raiders fan as a kid so it made sense. I don't think he was a diva or anything about it. He didn't go crazy public with any of his disputes and didn't pull a Hassan Reddick. He sure didn't want out because of Rodgers either - if he did he wouldn't want to go back to him... he could've asked to stay on the west coast and gone to several NFC teams (LAR, SF, SEA).

Weird move by the Jets, and I think Antonio Pierce doesn't survive Black Monday.

[Joemailman]

Patriots have signed C/G Lecitus Smith off the Packers practice squad.

[Fritz]

I’ll stay on record that I thought he was ok and could’ve been decent over time.

Well, if the Packers agree with you, they can poach Warm Carlson from the practice squad and he can be in the Green-and-Gold on Sunday.

[run pMc]

Adrian Amos and Anders Carlson signed to SF's PS, Kristian Welch released by Denver. MVS released by BUF. Parry Nickerson, who had a brief moment with GB in 2020, signed to PHI's PS.
Lotta ex Packers out there.

[texaspackerbacker]

I wonder if there would be any interest in bringing back MVS cheap and/or Kristian Welch.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I wonder if there would be any interest in bringing back MVS cheap and/or Kristian Welch.

I’d take MVS over Heath. And given how fragile Watson is, it wouldn’t hurt to have another tall, speedy WR on the roster.

[ThunderDan]

No thank you on MVS.

What is will the nostalgia with former Packers recently? Bring back Carlson now bring back MVS. Runyan was so great.

Shesh… there is a reason the Packers let them go.

[NewsBruin]

Love has an itch on his lower back before the snap and MVS instinctively changes his route.

[texaspackerbacker]

No thank you on MVS.

What is will the nostalgia with former Packers recently? Bring back Carlson now bring back MVS. Runyan was so great.

Shesh… there is a reason the Packers let them go.

I'm certainly not for bringing back Carlson. Why did the Packers "let go" MVS and Runyan? Because other teams paid them too much money. If Runyan became available for not much over the minimum, yeah, I'd say snap him up - very doubtful that happens, though. It did happen with Valdez-Scantling. I haven't heard that he has gotten any slower or worse. Not long ago, I woulda said we didn't need him, but injuries do creep up. Maybe he'd catch Love passes better than Rodgers passes. The other guy I mentioned, Welch, was pretty good for us in the preseason.

[MadtownPacker]

Love has an itch on his lower back before the snap and MVS instinctively changes his route.
Ha! That’s Rodgers fault with his secret decoder play calls.

[Fritz]

I don't know why people want to bring back the retreads.

[MadtownPacker]

I don't know why people want to bring back the retreads.
It’s like getting back with an Ex. We just want to feel that good stuff one more time.

[texaspackerbacker]

Good players for cheap - it's as simple as that.

[run pMc]

Who do you cut if you bring back MVS? Heath? MVS is basically a vested veteran at this point - he will cost more than a UDFA rookie will, and I'm not sure MVS is great at ST. Heath is your WR6, who cares.

If you ask why they left THEN, you also have to ask why they are being let go NOW. KC and now BUF have cut MVS, he's on the back end of his career. Runyan will be fine and isn't leaving NYG for a couple of years. Welch isn't displacing Hopper or Wilson.

They might be cheap players, but that doesn't mean they are (still) good players. Has to be a good reason to swap for a younger player on the roster who might have upside, AND knows the playbook, their role on the field and place in the locker room. (and probably has the trust of coaches)
Stupid minor point: if you're on the roster Week1 your salary is on the books, so if you are churning players after that you are just slowly chewing into your cap space. It might only be a million or two, but you might want that million to roll over next year. Lots of things to consider.

I post to this because I think it's fun to see what these players are up to, not because I want them back.

[Patler]

With the current Packer WRs, MVS would likely be the highest paid player in the room.

[texaspackerbacker]

Who do you cut if you bring back MVS? Heath? MVS is basically a vested veteran at this point - he will cost more than a UDFA rookie will, and I'm not sure MVS is great at ST. Heath is your WR6, who cares.

If you ask why they left THEN, you also have to ask why they are being let go NOW. KC and now BUF have cut MVS, he's on the back end of his career. Runyan will be fine and isn't leaving NYG for a couple of years. Welch isn't displacing Hopper or Wilson.

They might be cheap players, but that doesn't mean they are (still) good players. Has to be a good reason to swap for a younger player on the roster who might have upside, AND knows the playbook, their role on the field and place in the locker room. (and probably has the trust of coaches)
Stupid minor point: if you're on the roster Week1 your salary is on the books, so if you are churning players after that you are just slowly chewing into your cap space. It might only be a million or two, but you might want that million to roll over next year. Lots of things to consider.

I post to this because I think it's fun to see what these players are up to, not because I want them back.

If he'd cost very much, forget it. But probably he'd be cheap even as a vested veteran. He's only 30 yrs. old and I don't recall any injury bad enough to permanently slow him down. Speed usually persists pretty well. I remember seeing a video of Jesse Owens running a 9.4 hundred (yds, not meters) at age 57. Who would he replace? What's Wicks' status? IR or not? Heath or Melton (or MVS) could be PSed if nobody is on IR.

The Welch case would be better than the worst on the PS.

This is all speculative and probably won't happen, but IMO it certainly wouldn't be bad if it did.

[Patler]

If he'd cost very much, forget it. But probably he'd be cheap even as a vested veteran. He's only 30 yrs. old and I don't recall any injury bad enough to permanently slow him down. Speed usually persists pretty well. I remember seeing a video of Jesse Owens running a 9.4 hundred (yds, not meters) at age 57. Who would he replace? What's Wicks' status? IR or not? Heath or Melton (or MVS) could be PSed if nobody is on IR.

The Welch case would be better than the worst on the PS.

This is all speculative and probably won't happen, but IMO it certainly wouldn't be bad if it did.

If you pick him up, you are stuck with the balance of the contract he signed with Buffalo. The contract was $2.25M guaranteed plus incentives up to $4M on a one-year contract.

[texaspackerbacker]

That doesn't sound all that expensive. It's likely all moot now, though, as the Packers picked up a WR named Malik Knowles of Kansas State to the Practice Squad.

[run pMc]

lol
Do not want MVS. Speed definitely diminishes with age and injuries, and MVS has had those. Also, they have Bo Melton who actually ran a faster 40 than MVS did and is younger and cheaper.

Knowles is a weird pickup - was a so-so receiver but really good kick returner. Doesn't have great burst according to scouts. It's a PS guy so I wouldn't make much of it. They have Julian Hicks on the PS already. I suspect they will shuffle thru those last 1-2 PS spots with players for a while.

[MadtownPacker]

No way to MVS. He will infect the youngsters with Dropsies. Worse than an STD and usually a career ending ailment.

[NewsBruin]

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AlttghHZyVDcgbFDq1PoJGkYeAATmQ

[MadScientist]

Old Packers never die, their uniforms just fade away to green and white.

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein

San Francisco #49ers are signing former #Packers K Anders Carlson to their practice squad, source said. Niners adding some insurance after Matthew Wright injured his shoulder last week.

Matt Barrows
@mattbarrows

On KNBR, Lynch said that Anders Carlson likely will handle kicking duties Sunday. He said it "bodes well" that Jordan Mason has been taking part in all the practices this week.

[MadtownPacker]

Matt Barrows
@mattbarrows

On KNBR, Lynch said that Anders Carlson likely will handle kicking duties Sunday. He said it "bodes well" that Jordan Mason has been taking part in all the practices this week.
Damn, they are going to use him vs the Chiefs? Seems like all of KCs games end on a last second score. This will be good.

Even better if he come to Lambeau vs the Pack in November. :lol:

[Fosco33]

I’m afraid he’s gonna have hell of a career and we’ll look back and shake our heads

[call_me_ishmael]

I’m afraid he’s gonna have hell of a career and we’ll look back and shake our heads

Maybe, but either way he's just a kicker. They're a dime a dozen for a decent one IMO. In the slim chance he's the niners kicker next year, then they will have let a hoss of a kicker out the door that we would have a chance to sign. If he does kick well and is released (I think this is far more likely than the former), then Pack could resign him too.

This is all assuming the Niners do in fact have that kicker from Michigan who was a beast. I think they do.

[Fritz]

They do. And he is a beast.

I do disagree with your "dime a dozen" statement. If that were true, why have the Packers struggled with kickers for over a year, along with the Commandos and Gints and maybe a couple other teams?

[run pMc]

Jake Moody is hurt, their backup kicker hurt his shoulder making a tackle, so they brought Anders in and ... he missed an XP vs. KC. At least he's consistent with missing one a game.

NFL-quality Kickers are not easy to find, but they should be. There was an article on the acmepacking site a while back that (half-jokingly, I assumed) talked about how baseball teams have "pitching labs" and NFL teams could easily do the same with kicking labs. I suspect you could take many a decent soccer player and turn them into an above average NFL kicker.

[Patler]

I suspect you could take many a decent soccer player and turn them into an above average NFL kicker.

I'm not sure about that. I've seen several comments from soccer players turned football kickers who said it is much more difficult kicking a football because of its peculiar shape and flight characteristics.

[run pMc]

I'm not sure about that. I've seen several comments from soccer players turned football kickers who said it is much more difficult kicking a football because of its peculiar shape and flight characteristics.

Fair enough. To be clear, I meant with proper coaching, work on technique, etc., it could be done - the leg strength and kicking ability should mostly be there. I didn't mean to imply just taking some high school soccer player off the street and giving them a uni.
I suspect the investment and knowledge isn't there for some teams, I wonder if GB is one of them.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm not sure about that. I've seen several comments from soccer players turned football kickers who said it is much more difficult kicking a football because of its peculiar shape and flight characteristics.

My grandson who was a soccer player and a high school kicker as well as Brandon Aubrey would beg to differ.

[bobblehead]

High school? Don't the seasons run concurrently? I am aware of this because we had a kid who could nail 50 yarders, but he was a soccer player so he wasn't available during football season.

[texaspackerbacker]

My grandson didn't play school soccer, but I think it is a Spring sport around here. Anyway, a LOT of soccer players do very well kicking footballs - and have for fifty or so years, back to the Gogolaks and Chester Marcol.

[NewsBruin]

Former Packer Davante Adams lost to the Steelers twice in seven days.

[Joemailman]

Nervous Narveson was one of a few kickers who conducted a workout with the Jets.

[Patler]

Allen Lazard placed on IR by the Jets.

Lawrence Guy cut by the Bengals.

[Joemailman]

Browns have traded Zadarius Smith to the Lions.

[Joemailman]

Anders Carlson has been signed to the Jets practice squad.

[sharpe1027]

Anders Carlson has been signed to the Jets practice squad.

Because there's not enough ex Packers on that team.

[MadtownPacker]

Because there's not enough ex Packers on that team.
M3 will be available to coach next season. :lol:

[run pMc]

MVS made an appearance in the highlights for NO vs ATL. He flashes about 3 times a season and then disappears, but good for him. He's carved out a decent career for himself (SB ring with KC) as a Day 3 pick.

[bobblehead]

MVS made an appearance in the highlights for NO vs ATL. He flashes about 3 times a season and then disappears, but good for him. He's carved out a decent career for himself (SB ring with KC) as a Day 3 pick.

Honest question. Who was the better value at this point, MVS or Watson. It could change still, but the answer is a no brainer right now. I'm still salty we didn't take George Pickens who was a 5 star HS talent and SEC star.

[run pMc]

Honest question. Who was the better value at this point, MVS or Watson. It could change still, but the answer is a no brainer right now. I'm still salty we didn't take George Pickens who was a 5 star HS talent and SEC star.

I'd like to see how the rest of the season goes, but actually I'd lean Watson. He already has more TDs than MVS had in 4 years for GB. Thing is, MVS was a R5 pick... so from a value standpoint MVS was a pretty good pick. I think it's fair to say Watson has underperformed where he was drafted so far.

As for Pickens, he was a player I hoped GB would pick. He has/had a rep as kind of a diva and hothead, which probably knocked him down their board a bit. Not super mad about it, GB has decent receivers now, but a Pickens/Reed/Kraft combo would have been pretty fun. I think Watson is a superior athlete, but Pickens is a better football player. Good with contested catches, decent enough hands etc. Is a knucklehead though. IDK

Taking Sternberger over McLaurin and Amari Rodgers over Nico Collins (or St. Brown) bothers me more, I liked both those players and thought they were good fits for GB.

[bobblehead]

Watson is a generational athlete. That is Gutes M.O. He likes to draft decathletes in the first round. Someday he will get over it. I still think he was to blame for Kevin King. I mean, his first round picks are athletic wonders, but only a couple have panned out. Going back he has drafted athletic stars of King, Jaire, Gary, Savage, Stokes, Quay and Van Ness. I would argue only Jaire lives up to his pick status (when he plays). Gary looked like he might, but has regressed this year. Van Ness is still young, but should be flashing by now.

Compare it to the "football players" he has focused on later in recent drafts. Guys like Enagbare, Tom, doubs, Walker, Williams, Brooks, Kraft (who he drafted athletic Musgrave ahead of). And I really want to know why Valentine can't find the field.

[sharpe1027]

You don't get a shot at the guys that are freak athletes and already great football when are usually drafting in the second half of the first round. Given his ability to find good quality later in the draft, maybe the thought is to swing for the fences early?

[run pMc]

Yeah, I think it's a "we trust our coaching staff, let's get the best athletes we can find and coach them into players."
It's a Ron Wolf/Al Davis thing really, GB has been doing this for decades.

Agree you usually are finding the combo of best athlete + good player in the top half of R1. Sometimes there's a late bloomer or someone with a red flag that gets by, but the scouting is so good these days it's hard to miss guys.

I didn't like that Gary pick because I thought he was too much of a boom or bust player, and that's not my personal preference. He's turned out fine. Gute has certainly had his share of bad picks in R1, though I can't fault the thinking and taking big swings, especially if you're drafting in the back of the round.
I actually like the "good football player" better, especially in the later rounds. Xavier McKinney isn't a great athlete (by NFL standards) but he's got great football IQ and instincts. That can make up for a lot. Wouldn't want a team of Ladarius Gunters though - most draft picks are coin flips and you need good athletes to compete.

That's part of what made the Amari Rodgers pick so confounding, when Nico Collins (the type of size/speed prospect they usually like) was there. I think the R3 curse has been discussed ad nauseum, and appears to thankfully be broken.

[bobblehead]

You don't get a shot at the guys that are freak athletes and already great football when are usually drafting in the second half of the first round. Given his ability to find good quality later in the draft, maybe the thought is to swing for the fences early?

What if you could replace each of those blown picks with the "consensus" better player. We might just have the best roster in football. Savage was the worst of the picks in my book, Quay a close 2nd. McGinn has Savage as the 6th best safety in that draft. There are at least 3 guys picked after him that are better. Myers over Humphry sent Red into a 5 day bender (in fairness he was 2 days into it when the pick occurred).

[Joemailman]

The #49ers have signed P Pat O’Donnell to the team’s practice squad.

[Teamcheez1]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/green-bay-packers/news/jordan-loves-fianc%C3%A9e-urging-packers-re-sign-david-bakhtiari-after-rough-exit/27922bc108e0e035ff0ae843

David Bakhtiari
Not just no, hell no! We’ve already been fleeced for enough money.

[bobblehead]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/green-bay-packers/news/jordan-loves-fianc%C3%A9e-urging-packers-re-sign-david-bakhtiari-after-rough-exit/27922bc108e0e035ff0ae843

David Bakhtiari
Not just no, hell no! We’ve already been fleeced for enough money.

Only way to sign him is to a minimum deal with a bonus for playing half the snaps in each game. For him $1 million for each game he plays half the snaps would seem reasonable. He simply can't fuck them over on a deal like that, but I find it unlikely he would sign that.

[run pMc]

No to Bakhtiari. I think his time is past. Agree only way would be to offer minimum salary with per game roster bonuses or some such

[Joemailman]

Anders Carlson made all his kicks for the Jets yesterday. Asshole.

[CaptainKickass]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/green-bay-packers/news/jordan-loves-fianc%C3%A9e-urging-packers-re-sign-david-bakhtiari-after-rough-exit/27922bc108e0e035ff0ae843

David Bakhtiari
Not just no, hell no! We’ve already been fleeced for enough money.

At this point I think Davis Bahhtiari should pay the Packers for the privilige of returning to the team to attempt earning some playing time. The Packers paid him WAY too much already.

[Patler]

The Athletic's Diana Russini reported Saturday, citing sources, that is is "increasingly likely" that Rodgers could be placed on injured reserve or benched over the next few weeks. Russini also reported that sources around the NFL wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers is cut at some point during the regular season.

That news arrives a few days after it was reported that Jets owner Woody Johnson talked with coaches about benching Rodgers as early as Week 4 this season.
...
According to Russini, Rodgers's intent remains to play in 2025—but not for the Jets.

Is he looking for a house in MN?

[MadtownPacker]

Is he looking for a house in MN?
There is potential but he might prefer the weather in Santa Clara, CA.

Too bad he can’t be traded there today.

[Teamcheez1]

From PFT:

49ers linebacker De’Vondre Campbell was active for Thursday night’s game against the Rams but never got on the field. San Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan said after the game that was because Campbell quit on the team and refused to play.

[MadScientist]

From PFT:

49ers linebacker De’Vondre Campbell was active for Thursday night’s game against the Rams but never got on the field. San Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan said after the game that was because Campbell quit on the team and refused to play.

He had a hissy fit because he lost his starting job to a better player returning from injury. Can SF suspend him without pay for the rest of the season? Otherwise, even the other SF players think he should be cut.

[Sparkey]

From PFT:

49ers linebacker De’Vondre Campbell was active for Thursday night’s game against the Rams but never got on the field. San Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan said after the game that was because Campbell quit on the team and refused to play.

"Following the final whistle, 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan told reporters that linebacker De'Vondre Campbell (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/2060733/devondre-campbell/) informed coaches he "didn't want to play today," and left for the locker room in the third quarter when asked to replace Dre Greenlaw (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/2185496/dre-greenlaw/) on the field. "

[Joemailman]

"We're working through the semantics of exactly how to deal with it," Shanahan said. "But I mean you guys heard from me last night, you guys heard from our players, his actions from the game, it's not something you can do to your team or your teammates and still get to be a part of our team. We're working through exactly the semantics of it right now, but we'll handle the situation appropriately."

The most obvious move would be to outright release Campbell, making him an unrestricted free agent and free to sign with another team immediately. There are, however, other options the Niners can explore, such as a suspension without pay for conduct detrimental to the team.

[Bretsky]

De'Vondre Campbell's time in San Francisco is done, no doubt. You refused to go into a game AFTER you agreed to "dress", breach of contract, you are not getting paid, pack your bags, your teammates no longer want you around, get out.
At the end of De'Vondre Campbell's tenure in Green Bay, we saw a foreshadowing of this. He thinks very highly of himself. While you need to be confident in a very "machismo" sport, there's a line you do not cross. Towards the end of his time here, his play had declined and his attitude had slowly worsened. It's a results oriented business, period. BUT, when it comes with an incredibly selfish and petulant attitude, you quickly become a pariah. Now, you quit with the playoffs on the line!?!
Results will equal tolerance. Some desperate team MAY take you, but the majority will pass you by without an thought or consideration.
For the fans, and I speak only for myself, we hope we don't have to see you again.

[Willard]

De'Vondre Campbell's time in San Francisco is done, no doubt. You refused to go into a game AFTER you agreed to "dress", breach of contract, you are not getting paid, pack your bags, your teammates no longer want you around, get out.
At the end of De'Vondre Campbell's tenure in Green Bay, we saw a foreshadowing of this. He thinks very highly of himself. While you need to be confident in a very "machismo" sport, there's a line you do not cross. Towards the end of his time here, his play had declined and his attitude had slowly worsened. It's a results oriented business, period. BUT, when it comes with an incredibly selfish and petulant attitude, you quickly become a pariah. Now, you quit with the playoffs on the line!?!
Results will equal tolerance. Some desperate team MAY take you, but the majority will pass you by without an thought or consideration.
For the fans, and I speak only for myself, we hope we don't have to see you again.
I appreciate Campbell’s role in knocking the rival Niners out of playoff contention. Well done! Now go away.

[run pMc]

Sounds like SF is going to suspend Campbell, not cut him. They want to try and claw some of his guarantees back, plus they don't want him able to play for another team this year. The old "if you won't play for us, you won't play for anyone" game. Can't say I blame them for it.

I find it hard to believe he will get another shot with a team, he bad mouthed previous teams and he's on the decline. Why would you bring a headache like that into your building, you don't know if you can count on him, and even if he does play it's replacement level.

He made his own mess. Unfortunate to see. Maybe it's CTE

[Joemailman]

Tim Boyle has replaced Tommy DeVito for the Giants. Must be tough to be a Giants fan.

[Patler]

Miami Dolphins receiver Grant DuBose will remain at a Houston-area hospital overnight for further evaluation after he was was taken off the field on a stretcher after a helmet-to-helmet hit against the Houston Texans on Sunday.

DuBose tried to make a catch in the third quarter, but was hit in the head by rookie Calen Bullock before his head violently hit the turf. He appeared to clench both fists after the hit -- movements consistent with what's referred to as the "fencing response," which can be common after a traumatic brain injury -- before remaining motionless as medical personnel rushed to his side.

DuBose was ruled out with a head injury. He was transported to a Houston-area hospital for evaluation and was in stable condition, per the team. Head coach Mike McDaniel told reporters after the Dolphins' 20-12 loss that they had received positive feedback regarding DuBose's status.

DuBose remained on the field for more than 10 minutes as he was tended to by emergency medical personnel. His jersey was cut off him and a neck brace was put on him while players from both teams watched with concern.

At one point while he was down, the Dolphins moved away from him and into a circle where they kneeled and appeared to be praying. McDaniel and Houston head coach DeMeco Ryans embraced at one point while he was still on the field.

DuBose was eventually put on a spine board where his arms and legs were strapped down and he was taken off the field. A tube of some kind was in his mouth and no movement could be seen as he was taken off the field.



Last paragraph is concerning.

[Fritz]

He’s been injury riddled, but this is a whole ‘nother thing. You feel for him.

[MadScientist]

The spine board and straps are scary but happen occasionally, with feared neck or spine injuries, to make sure it doesn't get worse before getting to the hospital. I've never heard of the tube being inserted like that before. You never want to see injuries like this.

[run pMc]

Word is DuBose is stable and is moving, which is very good news. Tua threw him a hospital ball, and the rookie HOU safety obliged with a reckless helmet to helmet hit.

[run pMc]

Tim Boyle has replaced Tommy DeVito for the Giants. Must be tough to be a Giants fan.

I forgot Lasershow Boyle was still in the league. He's had quite a journey: GB, DET, CHI, NYJ, MIA, and now NYG. Teams must be very desperate for football throwers.

[Willard]

Aaron Jones is good.

[Patler]

Not playing...coaching:


Former Green Bay Packers cornerback Terrell Buckley has been named head football coach at Mississippi Valley State, an NCAA Division I school in the Football Championship Subdivision.

[Fritz]

Not playing...coaching:

Never quite lived up to the billing and draft status - I think he was something like the #5 overall pick. It's hard to picture these brash, big-talking defensive backs (Deion being example #1) becoming head coaches. But here we are.

[ThunderDan]

Glad to see Grabby Smurf got a job.

[Joemailman]

Glad to see Grabby Smurf got a job.

Wasn't Ahmad Carroll Grabby Smurf?

[ThunderDan]

Wasn't Ahmad Carroll Grabby Smurf?
You are correct.

[Patler]

Never quite lived up to the billing and draft status - I think he was something like the #5 overall pick.

I wonder, maybe he did and it just didn't seem like it. He played 14 years and had 50 interceptions, 6 returned for TDs. He started 131 games, mostly in his first 9 years. Averaged 9.5 yards on 79 punt returns. Yet, he played for a bunch of teams. Odd career details, but overall very, very good.

[Joemailman]

I wonder, maybe he did and it just didn't seem like it. He played 14 years and had 50 interceptions, 6 returned for TDs. He started 131 games, mostly in his first 9 years. Averaged 9.5 yards on 79 punt returns. Yet, he played for a bunch of teams. Odd career details, but overall very, very good.

He had his best years with Miami. He was a very undisciplined player with the Packers. I think maybe being traded for next to nothing made him realize he needed to get his act together. I think he was also better suited to nickel corner than playing outside. Buckley is one of only two players (the other being Ken Riley) with 50+ interceptions to never make a Pro Bowl.

[Patler]

He had his best years with Miami. He was a very undisciplined player with the Packers. I think maybe being traded for next to nothing made him realize he needed to get his act together. I think he was also better suited to nickel corner than playing outside. Buckley is one of only two players (the other being Ken Riley) with 50+ interceptions to never make a Pro Bowl.

Ya, some guys just need to mature, and getting dumped by the team that drafted you might do it.

A few more details I found:

64 pass deflections
10 forced fumbles
15 fumble recoveries

I think if a team knew that his career would be what it turned out to be, they would gladly draft him early.

[Patler]

Al Harris - going to Bears as D-Backs coach and passing game defense coordinator.

[Joemailman]

Jets hire Chris Banjo as special teams coach.

[Joemailman]

No longer dreaming: Mason Crosby and Micah Hyde announce their retirement from NFL.

[Guiness]

The dream is in danger - Aaron Rodgers, Jets announced that they will release him.

I wonder if there's a reason to do it Super Bowl Sunday.

[MadScientist]

The dream is in danger - Aaron Rodgers, Jets announced that they will release him.

I wonder if there's a reason to do it Super Bowl Sunday.

So that nobody really talks about it. It's not big news compared to the big game. It saves them a week of exclusive discussions about how that trade was a complete failure for them.

[KYPack]

Definitely not big news dept...

Pittsburgh released Preston Smith today.

Good guy, played hard even if he was not always real capable of making the plays.

[bobblehead]

Definitely not big news dept...

Pittsburgh released Preston Smith today.

Good guy, played hard even if he was not always real capable of making the plays.

Still pissed they didn't trade him instead of Douglas. I like Preston but he was clearly on the wrong side of father time, while Douglas put in a couple stellar seasons that could have really helped us. Instead we waited til his value cratered and we got a 7th.

[Fritz]

No longer dreaming: Mason Crosby and Micah Hyde announce their retirement from NFL.

From what I've read recently, Jaire Alexander will soon be eligible to be in this thread as a "former Packer."

The article - was it Schniedman or Demovsky? - said the Packers were unhappy with Alexander's inabilty or unwillingness to play through injuries.

Well, how can a team be unhappy with a player because he's too injured to play through it? They're not pissed at Christian Watson. Or Jordan Morgan. So the logical assumption is that the team was angry because they thought Alexander was not so badly injured that he couldn't play - but he balked.

Sure looks like his time in Green Bay is over. Who will sign him, I wonder? Someone will. Then we'll get that old song-and-dance about how underappreciated the player was by his former team, that he feels better than he has in years, that he's going to be a team player, and so on and so on . . . until he gets hurt early in the next season. Again.

Who will be the sucker that will take him on and count on him?

[Teamcheez1]

De’Vondre Campbell’s latest musings:

“I ain’t addressing shit. I’m rich and never have to work another day of my life and I told Kyle Shannahan and John Lynch that when they FaceTime me and begged me to come out there an hour after Green Bay cut me,” Campbell wrote.

[NewsBruin]

De’Vondre Campbell’s latest musings:

“I ain’t addressing shit. I’m rich and never have to work another day of my life and I told Kyle Shannahan and John Lynch that when they FaceTime me and begged me to come out there an hour after Green Bay cut me,” Campbell wrote.

That is a dream shared by many: Here's Yahoo's short writeup (https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/devondre-campbell-not-revealing-why-he-quit-on-49ers-i-know-the-truth-and-dont-care-to-clear-anything-up-141622565.html).

[run pMc]

De’Vondre Campbell’s latest musings:

“I ain’t addressing shit. I’m rich and never have to work another day of my life and I told Kyle Shannahan and John Lynch that when they FaceTime me and begged me to come out there an hour after Green Bay cut me,” Campbell wrote.

I think this is what GMs mean when they talk about "guys who love football" - they will play with a club over a broken hand and on bad knees because they love the game, not because they get paid. Long season, you need guys who are wired right. Fairly sure teams knew this about Campbell and was why he played for 4 teams in 9 seasons -- and likely won't play ever again after this stunt. If he's set for life, good for him I guess. He'll be mentioned in punchlines for the next 20 years though.

[Fritz]

I think this is what GMs mean when they talk about "guys who love football" - they will play with a club over a broken hand and on bad knees because they love the game, not because they get paid. Long season, you need guys who are wired right. Fairly sure teams knew this about Campbell and was why he played for 4 teams in 9 seasons -- and likely won't play ever again after this stunt. If he's set for life, good for him I guess. He'll be mentioned in punchlines for the next 20 years though.

Every twelve-year-old kid in America should use Devondre Campbell as a role model when their parents ask the die to address the fact that they set the kitchen on fire: "“I ain’t addressing shit."

[Joemailman]

Eric Stokes signs a 1 year, 4M deal with Raiders.

[CaptainKickass]

Eric Stokes signs a 1 year, 4M deal with Raiders.


Famously, Stokes never recorded an interception or pass deflection in the final three seasons of his four-year rookie contract.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvqsC3g-QDo



FAMOUSLY!

[Fritz]

Eric Stokes signs a 1 year, 4M deal with Raiders.

Wow. That dude is going to make four million dollars for one year, and he's - at best - very, very meh at his job.

That was a draft pick that seriously did not pan out, and while I am sure many will blame injuries, I can't forget how his play dropped off the table at the beginning of his second season - before he got hurt.

[Joemailman]

Josh Myers signing with J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets! 1 year, 3.5M. I'm surprised it's that low.

AJ Dillon signing a 1 year deal with Eagles.

[run pMc]

Stokes was a bad fit for Barry defense. Injuries didn't help. Dude was in a wheelchair for a while.

Ball skills were never his thing. Better athlete than player, and he was a linear athlete at that.
I could see Pete Carroll doing some good with him in Vegas. GB wasn't bringing him back.

Gute took a swing and missed. They got some value from him, but not a great draft pick and if he could have a do-over I bet he'd pick someone else.

Best of luck to him

[run pMc]

Josh Myers signing with J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets! 1 year, 3.5M. I'm surprised it's that low.

AJ Dillon signing a 1 year deal with Eagles.

Myers signed for 3.5M? Wow, that is low. I wonder if his medicals don't look great? I'd have been ok with them bringing him back for that and letting him compete vs. Monk or Rhyan.
Tough player, wish him well.

I bet the Dillon contract is modest as well. Didn't play at all last year and he had year over year declines before that. Kenneth Gainwell signed with PIT, I wonder if Dillon is going to be the 3rd down pass pro guy.

[run pMc]

Next few years could be crazy with Packers leaving, given all the picks they had in recent drafts

[Fritz]

Next few years could be crazy with Packers leaving, given all the picks they had in recent drafts

There's going to be a revolving door in Green Bay these next couple years. Lots of decisions to make, especially regarding Walker/Wyatt and Doubs/Watson/Wicks.

[Patler]

Eric Wilson is going back to the Vikings, where his career started.

[Fritz]

Eric Wilson is going back to the Vikings, where his career started.

I liked him better than McDuffie. Good fill-in; had some nice moments, good ST guy.

[texaspackerbacker]

Me too, Fritz. Hopefully Gutkunst knows better.

[Joemailman]

Corey Ballentine signs with Colts.

[Bretsky]

I liked him better than McDuffie. Good fill-in; had some nice moments, good ST guy.


GREAT special teams buy and leader.

He just aged out with Gouchebag's criteria that he wants to GB

[bobblehead]

De’Vondre Campbell’s latest musings:

“I ain’t addressing shit. I’m rich and never have to work another day of my life and I told Kyle Shannahan and John Lynch that when they FaceTime me and begged me to come out there an hour after Green Bay cut me,” Campbell wrote.

I wouldn't address it either if I were him....at least not with the truth. Much like Kapernick who didn't take a knee, but pouted on the bench because he lost his job, Campbell got benched because Greenlaw was back from his achilles. Campbell was pouty about it and when Greenlaw got hurt again refused to go into the game. His logic was that he got disrespected. He was a petulant child. The truth is worse than saying nothing. Kapernick is much smarter as he found a good lie to cover his petulance and turned it into a shit load of money after it was clear you couldn't win with him other than surprising teams or facing an awful packer defensive coordinator.

[MadtownPacker]

I hope I get to be the one who post it here when Rodgers gets signed by MN.

[Fosco33]

I hope I get to be the one who post it here when Rodgers gets signed by MN.

Maybe they’re thinking he can be helpful to McCarthy’s development (a kin to Love)? Or just derisk JJ not being ready for opening day?

Plus fan base, tickets, jerseys, etc.

And if he won their first SB - while as terrible as that’d be for Packer fans - it’d sure be generationally noteworthy.

[run pMc]

Corey Ballentine signs with Colts.

Between this and Robert Rochell not resigning (yet) this tells me they are going to draft a couple of CBs to "throw some bodies at the position group"

[MadtownPacker]

Maybe they’re thinking he can be helpful to McCarthy’s development (a kin to Love)? Or just derisk JJ not being ready for opening day?

Plus fan base, tickets, jerseys, etc.

And if he won their first SB - while as terrible as that’d be for Packer fans - it’d sure be generationally noteworthy.
Sad but true but looks like the dream is over now.

[Patler]

Greg VanRoten resigned with the Giants. Turned 35 in Feb, and has started 34 games the last two years.

One of the more interesting career paths I've seen. Came into the league at 22, and didn't get his first start until he was 28, but in the seven years since has 88 starts for 5 teams.

[Joemailman]

Robert Rochell signs with Chiefs.

[run pMc]

Greg VanRoten resigned with the Giants. Turned 35 in Feb, and has started 34 games the last two years.

One of the more interesting career paths I've seen. Came into the league at 22, and didn't get his first start until he was 28, but in the seven years since has 88 starts for 5 teams.

Yeah I was surprised that he was not only still around, but getting starts. The Giants don't have a great offense, not surprising

[Patler]

Mike Pennel signed again with KC. Will be his 13th NFL season.

[Joemailman]

Lucas Patrick has signed with the Bengals.

[Fritz]

Lucas Patrick has signed with the Bengals.

Ken Ruettgers has signed with the Jaguars. Two year deal.

[sharpe1027]

Ken Ruettgers has signed with the Jaguars. Two year deal.

This guy here is dead.

Cross him off then.

[bobblehead]

I hope I get to be the one who post it here when Rodgers gets signed by MN.

Its rapidly looking like you can post his retirement announcement in the near future.

[ThunderDan]

Its rapidly looking like you can post his retirement announcement in the near future.

It could be just like Burt. Announce his retirement, what until training camp and sign with another team.

[ThunderDan]

It could be just like Burt. Announce his retirement, what until training camp and sign with another team.

Not exactly, exactly. But close enough.

[Fritz]

Still hoping Minny will sign him. How much fun would that be?

Weird that Rodgers has gone from being worth a couple of high-end draft picks to a back-up-plan guy in the space of a couple years. How the mighty have fallen. As we all do.

[sharpe1027]

Still hoping Minny will sign him. How much fun would that be?

Weird that Rodgers has gone from being worth a couple of high-end draft picks to a back-up-plan guy in the space of a couple years. How the mighty have fallen. As we all do.

We probably cashed in a year late on trading him, but it's really fallen off quickly since then.

[run pMc]

Well his options seem to be: take the PIT job, retire, or wait for someone to hire him off the couch because their presumed starter sucks/gets hurt.

meanwhile he's got McAfee lol

[Patler]

Josh Myers departure will not be included in the calculations for potential draft pick compensation from losing and signing free agents. His contract is not large enough to qualify.

[MadtownPacker]

Its rapidly looking like you can post his retirement announcement in the near future.
Kinda how Harlan Huckleby would like to say, only the good (careers) die young.

[MadtownPacker]

Well his options seem to be: take the PIT job, retire, or wait for someone to hire him off the couch because their presumed starter sucks/gets hurt.

meanwhile he's got McAfee lolMight have a no talk shows clause like the Jets tried to do.

[Teamcheez1]

Birmingham Stallions of the UFL featuring Jace Sternberger and Amari Rogers on offense this evening.

[Teamcheez1]

Kevin King resigned by the Falcons for one year, $1.125M.

[MadScientist]

Birmingham Stallions of the UFL featuring Jace Sternberger and Amari Rogers on offense this evening.

If that doesn't tell you what the (lack of) quality is in the UFL, nothing will.

[Fritz]

True. It's one thing if they're playing; it's another if they're being featured.

[Teamcheez1]

I see that both Aaron Rodgers and Jonathan Owens are attending the Kentucky Derby today.

[run pMc]

Birmingham Stallions of the UFL featuring Jace Sternberger and Amari Rogers on offense this evening.

Jace has carved out a decent career in the UFL.

Montravious Adams was released by PIT. Could always kick the tires on him if they don't like their current DL (highly unlikely post draft)

[Patler]

I see that both Aaron Rodgers and Jonathan Owens are attending the Kentucky Derby today.

Didn't Mrs. Owens have something to do with the start of the race?

[KYPack]

Didn't Mrs. Owens have something to do with the start of the race?

She called the horses to the post.


That's a huge honor down here

[RandsRevenge]

Birmingham Stallions of the UFL featuring Jace Sternberger and Amari Rogers on offense this evening.

Rodgers kinda explosive, but still couldn't return a bottle for a deposit if his life depended on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHu5wFIKu5k