Official Super Bowl XLVIII Discussion Thread

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Patrick Vint ‏@HS_BHGP 44m
Hayden Fry RT @CycloneFB: Which former Iowa State assistant coach wins the Super Bowl? #Cyclones pic.twitter.com/6KuvECs1fe

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Aaron Schatz ‏@FO_ASchatz 56m
Update: This will actually be only the third 1-2 in DVOA SB. Others: 97 DEN-GB and 02 TB-OAK.

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Smart Football ‏@smartfootball 2h
RT @thekeyplay: Kam Chancellor was 2-star QB recruit coming out of high school.

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Could not agree more. He's no Tarkenton this playoffs.

Michael Tanier ‏@MikeTanier 3h
That endless spinning backpedal is rapidly becoming Wilson's biggest weakness.

[esoxx]

Seattle 24 Denver 20

Forehead gets dented for three picks in the loss.

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Robert Klemko ‏@RobertKlemko 4m
SB odds via @RJinVegas: Denver favored by 2 points over Seattle. Over/Under: 48 total points

esoxx, Vegas is looking for you!

[esoxx]

Looks like I'll be taking the moneyline.

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Via Wilde, a Packer/Ron Wolf shoutout about John Schneider

https://www.keek.com/!CjbEdab#CjbEdab

[esoxx]

Strange to see two former division rivals now battling it out for all the marbles in the Super Bowl.

[pbmax]

Strange to see two former division rivals now battling it out for all the marbles in the Super Bowl.

Nice one. What was the first old NFL team to play in the Super Bowl versus previous rivals? Was it the Colts versus Cowboys?

[esoxx]

Nice one. What was the first old NFL team to play in the Super Bowl versus previous rivals? Was it the Colts versus Cowboys?

Not sure how they were lined up division wise with those two. However, SB III featured two teams that would be subsequent division foes only two years later. Odd

[denverYooper]

The conclusion to be drawn is obvious: legal marijuana = superbowl.

[Rodgers12]

The conclusion to be drawn is obvious: legal marijuana = superbowl.

+1

[pbmax]

This could be a fun 2 weeks, lots of chips poised on shoulders.

SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 8h
Doug Baldwin on the idea that Seattle's receivers are 'pedestrian' -- "We're gonna walk our asses to the Super Bowl as pedestrians."

[Joemailman]

This could be a fun 2 weeks, lots of chips poised on shoulders.

SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 8h
Doug Baldwin on the idea that Seattle's receivers are 'pedestrian' -- "We're gonna walk our asses to the Super Bowl as pedestrians."

He better get going. Long walk from Seattle to Jersey.

[KYPack]

Now we get to see a million "Peyton can't win in the cold" stories.

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Now we get to see a million "Peyton can't win in the cold" stories.

Here is a good question to ponder on talk radio: is 33-36º F cold to Peyton?

[Fosco33]

The conclusion to be drawn is obvious: legal marijuana = superbowl.

Marijuanabowl

Bowl of Marijuana

[bobblehead]

The conclusion to be drawn is obvious: legal marijuana = superbowl.

I find it hard to argue with a 100% correlation.

[Fritz]

I can't stand Seattle. Not a big Denver fan either.

I do think Russell Wilson is regressing. But that's a good defense. Nonetheless, Peyton Manning is like a goddamn professor out there. If his line can give him a little time, he'll pick that defense apart.

[mraynrand]

Peyton Manning is like a goddamn professor out there.

Perfect analogy. The Professor just expired and so too soon will Manning. And recall, despite all his brain power, the Professor could never get the castaways off that gawddamn island.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Denver by double digits.

[mraynrand]

Denver by double digits.

Denver by 11?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1372272351_3172713-upset-businessman-giving-middle-finger-to-boss-dof-focus-on-hand.jpg

[pbmax]

Perfect analogy. The Professor just expired and so too soon will Manning. And recall, despite all his brain power, the Professor could never get the castaways off that gawddamn island.

Who is Peyton's Gilligan?

[denverYooper]

I can't stand Seattle. Not a big Denver fan either.

I do think Russell Wilson is regressing. But that's a good defense. Nonetheless, Peyton Manning is like a goddamn professor out there. If his line can give him a little time, he'll pick that defense apart.

I don't like Carroll and his punchable face but he's running a defense that is fun to watch. I like Wilson and think he's a humble fellow who understands he's been put in a great situation. I want to like Seattle more because they're a branch of the Packers FO tree but that fail mary play...

[Joemailman]

Perfect analogy. The Professor just expired and so too soon will Manning. And recall, despite all his brain power, the Professor could never get the castaways off that gawddamn island.

The professor didn't want to get off the island.

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[denverYooper]

On my commute this morning, I was thinking this morning that both of these teams are running on a lot of FAs and may or may not last longer than 2 years at best. I don't have time to look into it, but IIRC Seattle has about 10 FA DEs and Denver has Manning, Welker, Pot Roast and several other FAs who are not long for this league. Denver was in "win now" mode once they signed Manning. We'll see how it works out.

[Smidgeon]

Patrick Vint ‏@HS_BHGP 44m
Hayden Fry RT @CycloneFB: Which former Iowa State assistant coach wins the Super Bowl? #Cyclones pic.twitter.com/6KuvECs1fe

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeZCai2CAAAKSIs.jpg

I'm an Iowa State alum, and I still didn't know that either of them coached at ISU. Obviously not for long, but I thought the school motto was "nobody good comes here".

As for the Super Bowl, I want them both to lose.

[mraynrand]

...Denver has Manning, Welker, Pot Roast and several other FAs ....

LOL - who is Pot Roast??

[QBME]

LOL - who is Pot Roast??

Terrence Knighton

[mraynrand]

I will be cheering for Pot Roast in the Superbowl

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mmmmmmm......pot roast!
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[Striker]

Barring some crazy ass winter weather I think the edge goes to Denver. Seattle has the better defense for sure, but they won't have the benefit of the 12th man making life difficult for Peyton to audible and run the hurry up.

Yes, the Seahawks stifled the high powered Saints offense but I think the Broncos coaching staff will come up with a far better gameplan than the Saints did (who became obsessed with running screens and east/west plays on a fast defense). Plus I think the Broncos have more overall offensive talent than the Saints do so it should make it quite the interesting chess match.

[denverYooper]

Barring some crazy ass winter weather I think the edge goes to Denver. Seattle has the better defense for sure, but they won't have the benefit of the 12th man making life difficult for Peyton to audible and run the hurry up.

Yes, the Seahawks stifled the high powered Saints offense but I think the Broncos coaching staff will come up with a far better gameplan than the Saints did (who became obsessed with running screens and east/west plays on a fast defense). Plus I think the Broncos have more overall offensive talent than the Saints do so it should make it quite the interesting chess match.

Another thing to consider: Denver has been better at defending the pass than the run. Denver's defense matches up against Seattle's O better than many they could have faced from the NFC.

[mraynrand]

Another thing to consider: Denver has been better at defending the run than the pass. Denver's defense matches up against Seattle's O better than many they could have faced from the NFC.

FIFY

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

If Wilson plays like he did against the 49ers, Seattle loses. He is capable of better but I have not seen it lately.

[Fritz]

The professor didn't want to get off the island.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/nTsoY9PfK0Q/hqdefault.jpg


True. But he wanted to get off on the island, too. Which it looks like he did.

And he's going to put Richard Sherman on an island, too.

[woodbuck27]

Seattle 24 Denver 20

Forehead gets dented for three picks in the loss.

Your in such a comfortable position...why try to fool us? :razz:

I psyched myself out last week. All year I picked a Denver Vs Seattle SUPER BOWL and what did I do last week...Every time I second guessed my analysis this season... I lost.

Every - single - time.

Memo to self for 2014....No more BRAIN FARTS. :rs:

[Fritz]

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[Bossman641]

On my commute this morning, I was thinking this morning that both of these teams are running on a lot of FAs and may or may not last longer than 2 years at best. I don't have time to look into it, but IIRC Seattle has about 10 FA DEs and Denver has Manning, Welker, Pot Roast and several other FAs who are not long for this league. Denver was in "win now" mode once they signed Manning. We'll see how it works out.

Seattle also has Sherman to worry about. I believe he's finishing out year 3 of a 4 year rookie deal. Have to think him and his agent want to get a deal done. Even if he takes a discount to to get locked up early that's going to be a significant amount of money.

[gbgary]

I hope there's so much snow that they have to postpone it and move it to Detroit.

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One writer said even if New York got 20 inches of snow on Tuesday when everything begins in earnest, it will still be easier to get around New York and New Jersey than it was in Dallas after a half inch of snow and ice.

[denverYooper]

FIFY

yeahwhoops.

[denverYooper]

I think it's fantastic that the news cycle is wringing every last little bit of juice out of Dickie Sherman's postgame comments.

[woodbuck27]

Strange to see two former division rivals now battling it out for all the marbles in the Super Bowl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Seahawks

" Seattle is the only team to have played in both the AFC and NFC Championship Games, having relocated from the AFC to the NFC during league realignment prior to the 2002 season." Fr. LINK

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

Here is a good question to ponder on talk radio: is 33-36º F cold to Peyton?

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enCA428CA428&q=Temperature+tody+in+Dever+

Denver, CO Weather today:

Thursday Jan . 23, 2014 .... Snow and 34 Degrees F.

[woodbuck27]

I think it's fantastic that the news cycle is wringing every last little bit of juice out of Dickie Sherman's postgame comments.

Why can't they give that man a break!? Good Lord what did that sideline reporter think she was going to get?

He likely went about three hours without smokin' up. He was tense...wound up like a spring.

She should have simply said ... something like.... " Nice game Richard well actually an awesome game and my Family loves you.... I love you ! "

or stroke his ego another way:

"May I have your sweaty towel. I've a girlfriend ( substitute anyone appropriate; and remember he's tight ) that's a huge fan."

[Striker]

I'm pulling for the Broncos for a number of reasons.

If the Seahawks win, though, the Packers could be one of the potential opponents for the kickoff game next season...

[ThunderDan]

The Seahawks use to be one of my favorite teams. Zorn to Largent. Zorn to Largent.

Now they have Pete Carroll and the Fail Mary, I can't stand them anymore.

[Bossman641]

The Seahawks..and especially Tate...will always hold a special hatred in my heart for their punk behavior after the fail mary.

[LEWCWA]

I saw the sound fx on yahoo. I am now a big Sherman fan. I loved it. BTW-Crabtree is a punk. F it, I'm all in for the Seachickens against Manning. Hate Carroll, but other than him I like how that team plays.

[denverYooper]

The local drivetime was discussing the average age of the Broncos vs Seahawks rosters and mentioned that the Broncos were the 5th oldest on average whereas the Seahawks were the 4th youngest. Google-fu brought me the chart on this page (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/09/nfl-teams-ranked-by-average-age/):

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/nflavgage1.jpg?w=640

The "PaCKERZ R too YUNG!" argument usually rears its head when they struggle. This year, though, they had a slightly older (as of 9-4-13 but I think it's still true) roster than Seattle.

Seattle also has no player with Super Bowl experience on its roster (http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/21/seattle-seahawks-pete-carroll-richard-sherman/).

[denverYooper]

Maybe Green Bay's FO just misses Schneider because he seems to have picked the right young players (this year): Seahawks' John Schneider draws from winning pedigree (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/seahawks/2014/01/23/john-schneider-seattle-seahawks-ron-wolf-green-bay-packers-super-bowl-xlviii/4807813/)

[gbgary]

the Packers live in a conference with lots of evil empires. since they've all been vanquished but one i'm all-in for the broncos to eliminated that last one. i'm an nfc guy but sea just isn't likable in my book.

[pbmax]

I think it's fantastic that the news cycle is wringing every last little bit of juice out of Dickie Sherman's postgame comments.

I love that its getting more coverage than Josh Brent's homicide trial and that the talkative one is the thug.

[Joemailman]

Years from now, a good trivia question will be "Who actually intercepted the ball that Richard Sherman tipped?" Come to think of it, it might be a good trivia question now.

[pbmax]

Years from now, a good trivia question will be "Who actually intercepted the ball that Richard Sherman tipped?" Come to think of it, it might be a good trivia question now.

Marquand Manuel, of course.

[denverYooper]

I love that its getting more coverage than Josh Brent's homicide trial and that the talkative one is the thug.

We didn't even find out what Brent's high school GPA was.

[woodbuck27]

I'm pulling for the Broncos for a number of reasons.

If the Seahawks win, though, the Packers could be one of the potential opponents for the kickoff game next season...

Things could switch around dramatically.

I like the direction the Philadelphia Eagles are taking.

Their making a quick turnaround given the way their 'D' ... well actually 'overall team collapsed' in season's just prior to 2013. It looks like they selected an outstanding aggressive hard working HC ( Chip Kelly) to swing the wheel and get the Eagle players to man up on that ship. It's though to keep a good Irish chap down.

You get nowhere fast not being aggressive in the NFL. See the Green Bay Packers last three seasons and growing issues. The Packers are now poised to sink like an anchor lifted to the gunwales.

Ready - Set..................Get errrr done TT and MM ......or ...... GO !

As my grandfather would say:

" More damn excuses than good and decent common sense." E B

EB was a very smart man.

I'm becoming more and more alarmed at the soft attitude in Green Bay and that 'will' damn the Green Bay Packers. I refuse to bend to those that are so blind not to see the clear writing on the wall. The Green Bay Packers management and the MVP player Aaron Rodgers have to collectively give their heads a shake .....fast !

Another team that won't likely be kept down is the NO Saints but Drew Brees is looking a tad tight 'in BIG Games'. In the game of football it can be right here ..right there ...and suddenly right gone so very quickly.

NFL team management's in control of contending teams must strike when the fire in their teams belly is hot or forget it. That isn't happening with OUR Green Bay Packers. I see little sign of a significant change. I'm always hopeful that it will arrive; and in this 'Off Season' we see some definite signs that's the case.

GO PACK GO .......soon TT and MM !

[woodbuck27]

http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Sunday-Round-Up-Super-Bowl-a-battle-of-Broncos-No-1-offense-vs-Seahawks-No-1-defense/cb84877c-3747-4a1a-8756-5ba89054eda3

Sunday Round-Up: Super Bowl a battle of Broncos No. 1 offense vs Seahawks No. 1 defense

BY: Tony Drovetto ... Seahawks.com Writer & Producer

Posted 5 hours ago

"Manning only has 72 attempts greater than 20 yards (four per game) all year and produces most of his offense with the short passing game. Seattle safety Earl Thomas will play a big role in convincing Manning to throw the ball where the Seahawks want him to by baiting the QB with coverage disguises. Manning will not use motion to disguise or change formations. He would much rather come up to the line and read the defense. Peyton Manning has seen it all before but Seattle still presents problems." Pat Kerwin

Please click the LINK for this story.

PACKERS !

[Rodgers12]

I am rooting for the Broncos b/c of ex-Packer, Paris Lenon. :)

[Freak Out]

Nice one Tank....so how many former Packers are on the SB teams?

[Rodgers12]

Nice one Tank....so how many former Packers are on the SB teams?

Off the top of my head, I think only Giacomini and Lenon.

Bevell was QB coach under Sherman. :)

[woodbuck27]

The local drivetime was discussing the average age of the Broncos vs Seahawks rosters and mentioned that the Broncos were the 5th oldest on average whereas the Seahawks were the 4th youngest. Google-fu brought me the chart on this page (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/09/nfl-teams-ranked-by-average-age/):

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/nflavgage1.jpg?w=640

The "PaCKERZ R too YUNG!" argument usually rears its head when they struggle. This year, though, they had a slightly older (as of 9-4-13 but I think it's still true) roster than Seattle.

Seattle also has no player with Super Bowl experience on its roster (http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/21/seattle-seahawks-pete-carroll-richard-sherman/).

Seahawks AVG. Age at 4th youngest and 25.31.

[woodbuck27]

I am rooting for the Broncos b/c of ex-Packer, Paris Lenon. :)


Isn't this amazing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Lenon

[pbmax]

Jon Ryan as well.

[Rodgers12]

Isn't this amazing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Lenon

Yeah, the guy is still in the league. Not bad for a guy who played for the Memphis Maniax of the XFL.

[Rodgers12]

Jon Ryan as well.

Right. Canada's finest. WB is proud.

Frost over Ryan? Puzzling.

[woodbuck27]

Jon Ryan as well.

Jon Ryan was given a service when Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy cut him.

He was able to hook up with an NFL Team that knew his talent/poterntial in the NFL.

It wasn't working out between him and his ST's coach. Who was that any Packerrat?

So how has Jon Ryan fared in Seattle? Have been following up on Jon Ryan's NFL career as I have! Just in case your not aware of that:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/Packers+Ryan+became+stalwart+Super+Bowl+bound+Seah awks/9428118/story.html

Cut by Packers, Jon Ryan became a stalwart for Super Bowl-bound Seahawks

By: Mike Beamish, Vancouver Sun January 24, 2014

RENTON, Wash. --

It takes more than a little Frost to deter a Saskatchewan kid, another example coming in the form of Jon Ryan, the Regina-born punter with the Seattle Seahawks. FR. LINK

PLEASE click on the above LINK for this entire story on Jon Ryan and his new NFL Home and successful NFL career.

PACKERS !!

[Rodgers12]

Jon Ryan was given a service when Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy cut him.

He was able to hook up with an NFL Team that knew his talent/poterntial in the NFL.

It wasn't working out between him and his ST's coach. Who was that any Packerrat?

So how has Jon Ryan fared in Seattle? Have been following up on Jon Ryan's NFL career as I have! Just in case your not aware of that:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/Packers+Ryan+became+stalwart+Super+Bowl+bound+Seah awks/9428118/story.html

Cut by Packers, Jon Ryan became a stalwart for Super Bowl-bound Seahawks

By: Mike Beamish, Vancouver Sun January 24, 2014

RENTON, Wash. --

It takes more than a little Frost to deter a Saskatchewan kid, another example coming in the form of Jon Ryan, the Regina-born punter with the Seattle Seahawks. FR. LINK

PLEASE click on the above LINK for this entire story on Jon Ryan and his new NFL Home and successful NFL career.

PACKERS !!

Mike Stock.

[woodbuck27]

Right. Canada's finest. WB is proud.

Frost over Ryan? Puzzling.

Alot of Canadian football fans felt that TT and MM blew it with this special talent 'athlete' and man and cutting him. Jon Ryan was BIG TIME in the CFL..and in terms of CFL history.

I still recall the utter shock at the decision to cut him. I couldn't believe it. That decision came as such a surprise to me. Favre was gone...OK. Jon Ryan !?!? OUCH !! ... I didn't understand that. That made little sense.

Ohh yea... right here at Packerrats:

All the lame excuses... built into his mechanics and his success rate dropping the ball inside of the opponents 5 and 10 yard lines. He was strong but he couldn't pin the opposition back in their end. No he couldn't learn that !?

Sure.

Let's examine it from the standpoint of his available coaching. His position coach !

Let's examine it in terms of ( then or 2007-08 ) and things still going on with the Packers and GM and Coaching and the ST's Coach:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ryan#Green_Bay_Packers

" During the 2007 season, Ryan posted a net average of 37.6 yards, 12th in the NFL and the finest in Green Bay since 1969. His gross mark of 44.4 was the fourth-best in club history.


Ryan was released by the Packers on September 1, 2008, a move that was considered by many Packer fans to be a mistake and bewildering as Ryan boasted the best punting statistics the team had seen in years.

In the following Week 1 of the 2008 regular season, Jon Ryan signed with the Seattle Seahawks on September 9, 2008.

[I]" In Week 8 against the San Francisco 49ers, he kicked a 63 yd punt, a 60 yd punt and a 55 yd punt. He had a great 2008 season and finished with 78 punts averaging 45.6 yards."

Jon Ryan was at Home in Seattle and in the NFL.

Why? .... did it get that way Packerrats?

Here's a hint !:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Slocum

Green Bay Packers "obviously competence challenged" ST's Coach SHAWN SLOCUM.



We're still seeing today the reason why? I'll qualify that. Some Packerrats see that.

Canadian football fans were shocked !

In the long and honored tradition and history of the CFL. Football Canada knew that the Packers had an obvious gift in Jon Ryan. I'm positive that generally a lot of Canadian football fans took a sudden interest in the Green Bay Packers upon Jon Ryan's signing.

Jon Ryan's release didn't go down well in Canada, in terms of that and any decent sense ( and Green Bay Packers ).

By the way .... In case your unaware of this ... the Green Bay Packers have a lot of Canadian fans.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/1/20/5327482/tom-brady-patriots-super-bowl

Tom Brady says he won't watch Super Bowl.

By: Matt Verderame  @MattVerderame on Jan 20 2014, 11:48 AM

" I don’t have much of a rooting interest, truthfully. Those games are hard to watch," Brady said. "I don’t see myself sitting down to enjoy a football game or watch it. Our season is over. Truthfully, I could care less about watching a game. That's pretty much how I feel." ... Tom Brady ..... FR. LINK

[woodbuck27]

http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/videos/Playbook-Denver-Broncos-offense-vs-Seattle-Seahawks-defense/76eb413b-ff5a-444d-868a-5153632d7f38

Posted: Jan 24, 2014

VIDEO:

'Playbook': Denver Broncos offense vs. Seattle Seahawks defense

" What did Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning learn about the Seattle Seahawks defense from their preseason game and how can the Seahawks become a problem for Manning? " Fr. LINK

[Striker]

Another thing to consider: Denver has been better at defending the pass than the run. Denver's defense matches up against Seattle's O better than many they could have faced from the NFC.

I think it all depends on the weather.

It's also a personality matchup. The Broncos are much more "professional" but may not be as talented overall (mainly on defense) whereas the talent level of the Seahawks is great...but you have to wonder how the discipline/maturity plays into everything.

[pbmax]

OK, time to get serious on this here message board.

2012, McCarthy watched film of the unbeatable at home Seahawks and he wanted to pass (on the road) against that all World secondary. Specifically, he or Rodgers wanted to go deep. It might have worked had Newhouse and Bulaga not decided to have career defining meltdowns. The only way this game is not a perfect metaphor for Bulaga's last two seasons is that he did not get injured in the game.

So that tells us some things (and if it tells you McCarthy is unqualified to coach I understand but you should pick another random thread to call me out with a 8,500 word post):

1. McCarthy is a good film coach who generally can find the opponents weak spot. Why did he pick the secondary, specifically the deep secondary? Was it just because of man coverage and single safety? Was that even the defense they ran? Were the DBs all injured in that game? Was it Cobb's presence?

2. Can Denver pass protect against Carroll's defense long enough to get deep?

3. After the pass blocking self-immolated, McCarthy HAD to run, had modest success and came back in the game. It even opened up some things in the passing game. Can the Broncos run on Teenage Mutant Ninja Defense?

4. A very mediocre Packer D kept the Packers in this game. Can Seattle's offense actually score enough points to defeat even a harassed Peyton Manning?

[Pugger]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/1/20/5327482/tom-brady-patriots-super-bowl

Tom Brady says he won't watch Super Bowl.

By: Matt Verderame  @MattVerderame on Jan 20 2014, 11:48 AM

" I don’t have much of a rooting interest, truthfully. Those games are hard to watch," Brady said. "I don’t see myself sitting down to enjoy a football game or watch it. Our season is over. Truthfully, I could care less about watching a game. That's pretty much how I feel." ... Tom Brady ..... FR. LINK

I too am having a hard time getting amped up for this game. I'm no fan of either team, frankly. :razz:

[QBME]

(and if it tells you McCarthy is unqualified to coach I understand but you should pick another random thread to call me out with a 8,500 word post):



:)

[mraynrand]

I'm becoming more and more alarmed at the soft attitude in Green Bay .... I see little sign of a significant change.

Did you perhaps see a significant change in the running game from 2012? Was the run game soft in 2013?

[mraynrand]

OK, time to get serious on this here message board.

2012, McCarthy watched film of the unbeatable at home Seahawks and he wanted to pass (on the road) against that all World secondary. Specifically, he or Rodgers wanted to go deep. It might have worked had Newhouse and Bulaga not decided to have career defining meltdowns. The only way this game is not a perfect metaphor for Bulaga's last two seasons is that he did not get injured in the game.

So that tells us some things (and if it tells you McCarthy is unqualified to coach I understand but you should pick another random thread to call me out with a 8,500 word post):

1. McCarthy is a good film coach who generally can find the opponents weak spot. Why did he pick the secondary, specifically the deep secondary? Was it just because of man coverage and single safety? Was that even the defense they ran? Were the DBs all injured in that game? Was it Cobb's presence?

2. Can Denver pass protect against Carroll's defense long enough to get deep?

3. After the pass blocking self-immolated, McCarthy HAD to run, had modest success and came back in the game. It even opened up some things in the passing game. Can the Broncos run on Teenage Mutant Ninja Defense?

4. A very mediocre Packer D kept the Packers in this game. Can Seattle's offense actually score enough points to defeat even a harassed Peyton Manning?

Interesting to compare 2012 Packers at Seattle to the Superbowl. Manning will not have to deal with noise, and will not have to deal with very Stubby coach who refuses to change game plan until giving up close to 10 sacks.

[Striker]

OK, time to get serious on this here message board.

2012, McCarthy watched film of the unbeatable at home Seahawks and he wanted to pass (on the road) against that all World secondary. Specifically, he or Rodgers wanted to go deep. It might have worked had Newhouse and Bulaga not decided to have career defining meltdowns. The only way this game is not a perfect metaphor for Bulaga's last two seasons is that he did not get injured in the game.

So that tells us some things (and if it tells you McCarthy is unqualified to coach I understand but you should pick another random thread to call me out with a 8,500 word post):

1. McCarthy is a good film coach who generally can find the opponents weak spot. Why did he pick the secondary, specifically the deep secondary? Was it just because of man coverage and single safety? Was that even the defense they ran? Were the DBs all injured in that game? Was it Cobb's presence?

2. Can Denver pass protect against Carroll's defense long enough to get deep?

3. After the pass blocking self-immolated, McCarthy HAD to run, had modest success and came back in the game. It even opened up some things in the passing game. Can the Broncos run on Teenage Mutant Ninja Defense?

4. A very mediocre Packer D kept the Packers in this game. Can Seattle's offense actually score enough points to defeat even a harassed Peyton Manning?

1 - Why do the Packers seem to go into bombs away mode after playing patient and moving the chains all game? Big play mentality? Lack of patience?

2 - I think so. But they don't even need to get deep, their talent with Thomas/Welker/Decker/Thomas should be enough to open up the middle of the field. Though the Broncos were #1 in protection this year.

3 - They should be able to. Or at least run well enough to make them respect the run.

4 - They'll score, but it will be up to Wilson to play lights out. Manning won't make the mistakes Kaepernick did, and Fox/Manning's gameplan won't be as terrible as the Saints.

Plus the whole lack of the 12th man thing.

[mraynrand]

Have we heard enough about Manning struggling in the cold? Will Pete Carroll follow the Bungalo Bill scheme and defeat Peyton by mangling receivers? I say yes to the latter and no to the former. I want more cold weather talk.

[pbmax]

I agree Manning will not attack deep just to do it, though I am curious if we learn anything about why McCarthy thought it was there. He will do his usual overload, or level routes and let the defense choose to leave a receiver open that he will throw to.

Weather could be a factor but the fore case keeps getting better. They are up to 41 last I saw and rain stopping before the game.

Seahawks will definitely mug the receivers, curious if they have someone to match up on Welker.

In any typical kind of game, not sure if Wilson can score enough. Harvin could make a difference but every time you count on him, something goes south.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Have we heard enough about Manning struggling in the cold? Will Pete Carroll follow the Bungalo Bill scheme and defeat Peyton by mangling receivers? I say yes to the latter and no to the former. I want more cold weather talk.

Manning has never lost a game in cold weather when he was wearing a glove on his throwing hand.

[pbmax]

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[Striker]

I agree Manning will not attack deep just to do it, though I am curious if we learn anything about why McCarthy thought it was there. He will do his usual overload, or level routes and let the defense choose to leave a receiver open that he will throw to.

Weather could be a factor but the fore case keeps getting better. They are up to 41 last I saw and rain stopping before the game.

Seahawks will definitely mug the receivers, curious if they have someone to match up on Welker.

In any typical kind of game, not sure if Wilson can score enough. Harvin could make a difference but every time you count on him, something goes south.

I wonder how much the refs will protect the Broncos WRs this game. They've let them play thus far...but with this being Manning's "legacy" game...you may see those yellow flags fly faster.

[woodbuck27]

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[pbmax]

I agree Manning will not attack deep just to do it, though I am curious if we learn anything about why McCarthy thought it was there. He will do his usual overload, or level routes and let the defense choose to leave a receiver open that he will throw to.

Weather could be a factor but the fore case keeps getting better. They are up to 41 last I saw and rain stopping before the game.

Seahawks will definitely mug the receivers, curious if they have someone to match up on Welker.

In any typical kind of game, not sure if Wilson can score enough. Harvin could make a difference but every time you count on him, something goes south.

fore case?

Autocorrect can be really strange sometimes.

[denverYooper]

Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife 3m
#Seahawks Iron Men in 2013.. Thomas/Chancellor played 97% of snaps. Wilson (96%), Sherman (94%), Sweezy (94%)..

[esoxx]

Seattle 24 Denver 20

Forehead gets dented for three picks in the loss.

Forehead got dented alright. Seattle owned him.

[esoxx]

I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Broncos get clubbed like that.
Great game.