Official Non-Packer NFL Championship Game Day Musings

[pbmax]

Eh, I might as well watch

[mraynrand]

"I like to watch, Eve."

http://highdefdiscnews.com/screenshots/being_there_11.png

[pbmax]

Not watching yet, but apparently there is a heavy patriotic theme in the pre game.

Sir Broosk
@celecrityhottub

And now NFL players will read the Declaration of Independence, the original challenge flag.

[falco]

Not watching yet, but apparently there is a heavy patriotic theme in the pre game.

Sir Broosk
@celecrityhottub

And now NFL players will read the Declaration of Independence, the original challenge flag.

Perhaps a quirky attempt at humour?

[mraynrand]

Not watching yet, but apparently there is a heavy patriotic theme in the pre game.

Sir Broosk
@celecrityhottub

And now NFL players will read the Declaration of Independence, the original challenge flag.

http://www.wpamurals.com/hinton.jpg

[pbmax]

Perhaps a quirky attempt at humour?

Oh, absolutely. That Twitter account is damn funny at times. But I gathered there was a Patriotic pre-game theme from another reporter that he was psyched to finally get a chance to defeat the British again in the Super Bowl.

[pbmax]

http://www.wpamurals.com/hinton.jpg

Those were tough challenge rules. You could not let the flag touch the ground without having to take a TO to ceremonially burn the challenge flag and the other team, if it did not agree with the challenge ruling, would try to outflank your right with artillery and calvary.

[falco]

Oh, absolutely. That Twitter account is damn funny at times. But I gathered there was a Patriotic pre-game theme from another reporter that he was psyched to finally get a chance to defeat the British again in the Super Bowl.

ohhh.. I meant whoever decided to incorporate a bunch of football players trying to read the document was attempting to be funny...

I did not realize his statement itself was in jest... carry on.

[pbmax]

Eugene Wei @eugenewei

Guy in Manning jersey at urinal next to me stepped up, then backed away, gestured wildly, then stepped back up, yelled “Omaha!”, then peed.

[pbmax]

OK, that tears it. Rooting for Seahwaks now until someone posts a pic of Interceptouchdown.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfgUzQyCAAAlACq.jpg:large

[mraynrand]

Eugene Wei @eugenewei

Guy in Manning jersey at urinal next to me stepped up, then backed away, gestured wildly, then stepped back up, yelled “Omaha!”, then peed.

Avodart probably works better at ensuring a quick snap.

[pbmax]

That was a great catch by the Head Ref when Namath prematurely tossed the coin. And no, that comment was not an innuendo.

[mraynrand]

That was a great catch by the Head Ref when Namath prematurely tossed the coin. And no, that comment was not an innuendo.

Toss the coin, Joe!
http://profootballmock.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/JOE-NAMATH-SUZY-KOLBER-FEATURED-IMAGE.png

[pbmax]

I don't think that was the play call.

[pbmax]

Not a reverse Troy. Its Jet sweep or end around.

[pbmax]

Seriously, no one else on thread?

[pbmax]

Seahawk cheapshot on special teams!

[Guiness]

A couple of really bad challenge decision - not sure what either coach was thinking there.

[Guiness]

Seriously, no one else on thread?

It's cause this thread was OBVIOUSLY, like, so much cooler dude.
http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?26550-Um-Super-Bowl-Thread

[Rodgers12]

Who was the idiot that said, "Great QBs are capable of making great defenses look average?"

[Bossman641]

Denver looking like absolute shit

[Guiness]

Paris Lenon sighting!

[Rodgers12]

Denver looking like absolute shit

Manning is just setting things up for an epic comeback.

[Rodgers12]

Gotdamn, this game would look better on TV with snow.

[Rodgers12]

Really? Mark Wahlberg is a dad of a hot chick in the new Transformer movie? Lame.

[Teamcheez1]

Manning can't throw the ball longer than 10 yards.

[MadScientist]

Why didn't Denver prepare like this for SB32. Did they spend the whole last week on Broadway?

[Teamcheez1]

There goes noodle arm throwing the pick 6. F all you Manning/Denver supporters.

[Guiness]

Why didn't Denver prepare like this for SB32. Did they spend the whole last week on Broadway?

They were too pre-occupied with the accountants trying to cover shit up.

holy! Seattle pick 6~WR(TE?) stands there like his feet were rooted and watched it happen

[Rodgers12]

That pick6 reminds me of Collins'.

[MadScientist]

Denver really needed a TD on that drive, just not that way. Glad I have something else to do, this looks like one of the worst SB's in years.

[Rodgers12]

Denver really needed a TD on that drive, just not that way. Glad I have something else to do, this looks like one of the worst SB's in years.

I am telling ya, Manning is just setting things up for an epic comeback. If you turn off the TV, you're gonna miss it.

[Guiness]

LG with a false start penalty again, didn't see anything that time though.

[woodbuck27]

This game is surprizing me.

I certainly knew that Seattle is formidable but what's happening today to Denver.

WOW.

I always say... It's NOT over until it's over.

The Bronco's need to simply Fight - Fight and Fight.

[Guiness]

I am telling ya, Manning is just setting things up for an epic comeback. If you turn off the TV, you're gonna miss it.

Obviously, seeing as they just left sure points on the board there! Going for it on 4th and 2 in the first half? wtf?

[Bossman641]

This game sucks

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

The teams do not even look close, Seachickens much faster on defense, and their offense is actually more efficient than the Manningless Broncos.

[pbmax]

It's cause this thread was OBVIOUSLY, like, so much cooler dude.
http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?26550-Um-Super-Bowl-Thread

Couldn't bear to name it that without the Packers.

This game not what I hoped exactly but I think the Packers still matchup with the Seahawks well. Pass blocking would have been a issue this year.

[pbmax]

Pass rush is a great deodorant. See Howard Green.

[Bossman641]

Maybe Broncos need to do things more like the Packers...

[Rodgers12]

Obviously, seeing as they just left sure points on the board there! Going for it on 4th and 2 in the first half? wtf?

McCarthy would've kicked it. :x

[pbmax]

Aaron Schatz ‏@FO_ASchatz 48m
Injury to Chris Harris is killing Broncos. Unless they can find a time machine for Champ, they have one dependable corner. #FOAud

[pbmax]

The teams do not even look close, Seachickens much faster on defense, and their offense is actually more efficient than the Manningless Broncos.

Suddenly the Broncos receivers look much less threatening than a full Packer complement.

[Bossman641]

Packers at Seattle to open the season? Or I could see NFL scheduling SF at Seattle.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

And is something wrong with Manning? I mean, for the MVP, his accuracy sucks...

[Guiness]

Aaron Schatz ‏@FO_ASchatz 48m
Injury to Chris Harris is killing Broncos. Unless they can find a time machine for Champ, they have one dependable corner. #FOAud

Champ got beat bad once, Seattle put a nice pick on him and he doesn't have the catch up speed anymore.

Bronco's should've rolled the dice and dressed Jammer, who is reported to be a healthy scratch.

[Rodgers12]

Halftime show sucks! When will the newtorks come to their senses and get Coldplay to perform?

[woodbuck27]

Prediction: Seattle Seahawks 24, Denver Broncos 20

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1945190-super-bowl-2014-point-spread-predicting-final-box-score-for-seahawks-vs-broncos

For that to work out the Seahawks need a safety based on a 22-0 halftime score.

[red]

well, i've had this shit on in the background while i played computer games

now i'm tired of playing games and have to watch the shitty game

so far its not worth watching, and the ads this year are by far the worst i can remember, and thats saying a lot

at least shrek 2 is on tbs. and the dog seems to enjoy puppy bowl

[Joemailman]

Is the NFC as superior to the AFC as it would seem from watching the 1st half?

[Bossman641]

Halftime show sucks! When will the newtorks come to their senses and get Coldplay to perform?

Lol

[woodbuck27]

Halftime show sucks! When will the newtorks come to their senses and get Coldplay to perform?

Come on Coldplay wouldn't stoop that low would they?:idea:

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

They put a lot of work into that halftime show.

[red]

Halftime show sucks! When will the newtorks come to their senses and get Coldplay to perform?

networks should just show a special episode of their top show at halftime

can't get any worse then 95% of the halftime shows

[woodbuck27]

well, i've had this shit on in the background while i played computer games

now i'm tired of playing games and have to watch the shitty game

so far its not worth watching, and the ads this year are by far the worst i can remember, and thats saying a lot

at least shrek 2 is on tbs. and the dog seems to enjoy puppy bowl

Shrek 2 all the way...good choice red.

[red]

i was also hoping that the RHCP would shake things up by just wearing the sock like they use to do in the old days

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Well, I am sure the league has talked to both teams at halftime to let them know things have to change to make the game more competitive cause their ratings are gonna suck...

[pbmax]

Its kinda John Schneider's year, isn't it (Harvin KO TD)?

[red]

and thats it for me as far as the SB is concerned

guarantee the seafucks roided the fuck up the last two weeks

[Rodgers12]

Come on Coldplay wouldn't stoop that low would they?:idea:

You're right...still would be nice. Coldplay is awesome. :)

[Rodgers12]

Holy shit! Percy!

[Rodgers12]

Yo Rastak, you miss Harvin yet?

[Guiness]

They put a lot of work into that halftime show.

Flea and especially Keadis have thickened around the middle just a little.

[mraynrand]

Did any of Denver's highly valuable veteran FAs play on STs? Fire Slocum.

[pbmax]

Is the NFC as superior to the AFC as it would seem from watching the 1st half?

Did not seem that way last year after the lights went out. HINT HINT!

[Rodgers12]

Did any of Denver's highly valuable veteran FAs play on STs? Fire Slocum.

Paris Lenon, I think.

[pbmax]

The Packers have NO ONE at safety who could do what Chancellor just did on that play. He covered two routes with NO missteps.

[Guiness]

that was really, really bad bad OPI committed against Sherman

[pbmax]

Why are you punting John Fox you stupid fool?!

[Rodgers12]

Make love, not war, by Axe.

Best ad of the night!

[Bretsky]

Its kinda John Schneider's year, isn't it (Harvin KO TD)?

GM JOHN GENIUS !!!

[pbmax]

Trying to do too much, receiver fumbles. Their head is not right.

[Guiness]

That is the definition of 'when it rains it pours'.

Best Denver offensive play of the day...ends in a fumble and Seattle recovers!

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I think Packers could even win the way the Broncos are playing.

[red]

LOL, this is just embarrassing

its like the broncos didn't even want to be there tonight

i don't think i've ever seen a team look so bad in such an important game

[pbmax]

Anyone want to guess what next Sunday's article by Bob will be? :D

[pbmax]

Adam Gase should have taken a job while he had a chance. Broncos Defense has had some trouble but they are still fighting.

Broncos offense doesn't know what to do.

If Bob McGinn worked in Denver he would write that McCoy was the real brains behind Denver's Offense and he wouldn't have been bamboozled by the Seahawks.

[Bretsky]

I think Packers could even win the way the Broncos are playing.

Let's not get carried away; Seattle has the best D in the NFL and the best secondary in the NFL.

[Bretsky]

Anyone want to guess what next Sunday's article by Bob will be? :D


I've probably said a dozen times this year Seattle is a perfect example of blending the use of free agency, trades, and the draft.
Mcginn will b sure to point this out over the next few months. Dude reads Packerrats, ya know ........lol

[pbmax]

Guess theme of National Sports Media next week:

Does the threat of cold weather produce blowouts and mean there should never be another cold weather Super Bowl?

Or is Peyton Manning a loser who can't win playoff games?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

The packers tackling coach must be working with Denver this week...

[Rodgers12]

So who wins MVP if Seattle holds?

Cliff Averil?

[Rodgers12]

The epic comeback in on! :)

[MJZiggy]

At this point, that would be truly epic...

[pbmax]

OK. 5 minutes ago you punt (it did work). But now you onside kick with 15 minutes left? Dunno about that. Need four scores.

[woodbuck27]

The epic comeback in on! :)

The Broncos "only" need 29 unanswered points.

Time to get the scooters out.

[Rodgers12]

At this point, that would be truly epic...

Indeed.

[Rodgers12]

The Broncos "only" need 29 unanswered points.

Time to get the scooters out.

lol

[Rodgers12]

Whatever happened to Sydney Rice?

[woodbuck27]

So who wins MVP if Seattle holds?

Cliff Averil?

I like Russell Wilson right now to win MVP.

He's doing his normal steady leadership game management thing..Pete carroll has a HUGE role in that but my money is on Russell Wilson.

18/24 for 'Only' 206 Yards and 2 TD. Is getting it done.

Super Bowl MVP = Russell Wilson.

[woodbuck27]

lol

Ohh Ohh they need the Rocket propelled scooters.

[Guiness]

So who wins MVP if Seattle holds?

Cliff Averil?

Aw shit, thinking like Tank. I think I'l go so my head.

Was just discussing that. No standout for Seattle, truly a team effort. Harvin has had his impact on the game, but only what, 4 or 5 touches? Lynch hasn't blown the doors off. Just watched Kearse reel in another unlikely one catch, he's played well but I don't see him getting it. My guess would be that Wilson gets it by default, and it's looking like he'll rack up some stats in the 4th quarter to make it look good. Press/NFL/whoever give the award is pretty brainless that way, it's the winning QB's award unless he loses it.

If I was handing it out, it would go to the Seattle secondary as a unit. Manning was ineffective, and that's not because, well, I don't know, but there's one reason, and it's that Seattle's secondary did an incredible job today.

[Guiness]

Aikman with an amazing insight as Sherman goes down..."they don't lose much". wtf?

[Rodgers12]

I like Russell Wilson right now to win MVP.

He's doing his normal steady leadership game management thing..Pete carroll has a HUGE role in that but my money is on Russell Wilson.

18/24 for 'Only' 206 Yards and 2 TD. Is getting it done.

Super Bowl MVP = Russell Wilson.

But I think Seattle's offense doesn't even need to show up for Seattle to win this game, epic comeback notwithstanding.

[Guiness]

But I think Seattle's offense doesn't even need to show up for Seattle to win this game, epic comeback notwithstanding.

dammit. again.

Yup, between ST and D points, they theoretically win with 3 and outs all game.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I wonder if this blowout causes Manning to come back next year? He doesn't look like he is having fun right now.

[Rodgers12]

dammit. again.

Yup, between ST and D points, they theoretically win with 3 and outs all game.

Fox just showed Harvin's numbers. The guy might win it.

I'd give the award to Seattle's entire defensive unit. 8 points allowed (at this point) against Peyton Fucking Manning? Wow.

[pittstang5]

I like Russell Wilson right now to win MVP.

He's doing his normal steady leadership game management thing..Pete carroll has a HUGE role in that but my money is on Russell Wilson.

18/24 for 'Only' 206 Yards and 2 TD. Is getting it done.

Super Bowl MVP = Russell Wilson.

I think Wilson will get it and not for your reasons listed but because they have to give it to someone. My vote, as much as it pains me, would be to the Seattle Defense as a whole. The DEFENSE gave Wilson the ball back numerous times, with excellent field position.

[woodbuck27]

I wonder if this blowout causes Manning to come back next year? He doesn't look like he is having fun right now.

Peyton Manning says:

I'llll beeee baaack.

Records are there to break...he's playing until he busts all of them.

Brett Favre's records will fall to Peyton Manning.

[Guiness]

I think Wilson will get it and not for your reasons listed but because they have to give it to someone. My vote, as much as it pains me, would be to the Seattle Defense as a whole. The DEFENSE gave Wilson the ball back numerous times, with excellent field position.

and when they didn't, they gave it back to Denver...after scoring

[pbmax]

Giving it to Harvin or Wilson would be wrong. The D just shut out the #1 O. Has to be someone on D.

Peyton Manning is so good we didn't know he team was exceedingly mediocre.

[pbmax]

Denver's tackles are terrible pass blockers on speed rushes. The RT can be bulled as well. Awful. This line looks a lot like this year's Packers O line at times.

[pbmax]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfhAMu6CUAAvn2k.jpg:large

[woodbuck27]

I think Wilson will get it and not for your reasons listed but because they have to give it to someone. My vote, as much as it pains me, would be to the Seattle Defense as a whole. The DEFENSE gave Wilson the ball back numerous times, with excellent field position.

Right now at 18 for 25 and 206 yards and 2 TD's and zero Picks = 126 QB Rating.

[mraynrand]

Denver's tackles are terrible pass blockers on speed rushes. The RT can be bulled as well. Awful. This line looks a lot like this year's Packers O line at times.

I thought the line was better than that.

What a dog of a game.

[pbmax]

Smart Football ‏@smartfootball 33m
RT @sgw94: --> RT @DBrooks55: If I was Disneyland. I would take the whole Defense

[mraynrand]

Give the MVP to the pick 6 guy

[woodbuck27]

Pete Carroll's Seattle Seahawks and Surprize Domination...The World Champion Seattle Seahawks.

[Rodgers12]

Well, at least 49ers fans are pissed even more. :)

[woodbuck27]

Final SCORE:

Seattle a whopping 43 - Denver 8

A Great Team Win !!

[pbmax]

I thought the line was better than that.

What a dog of a game.

Chicken and egg maybe. Can't throw early, get rushed and can't go to other reads. But Seattle played a lot of coverage short and dared those throws, then the rush got to him or their hands on the ball.

Denver's best success came in the middle of the field but he rarely had a clean pocket to allow those routes to get there.

[Guiness]

Awesome interview Wilson! Some day, I want to see a hockey player interview a football player. That would be worthy of a Pulitzer to be sure.

[mraynrand]

Well, at least 49ers fans are pissed even more. :)

Yeah, like the Packers, they were just a fingernail length away from advancing.

[Rodgers12]

Give the MVP to the pick 6 guy

I think he's now the MVP.

[pittstang5]

Nice, a defender got the MVP. They got it right.

[pbmax]

Nice, a defender got the MVP. They got it right.

Yep. Right call, either him*, Avril or Clemons.

*Malcolm Smith

[mraynrand]

Nice, a defender got the MVP. They got it right.

If Al Davis were still alive, he'd try to trade for him in the off season.

[MJZiggy]

Nice, a defender got the MVP. They got it right.
They gave him a PICKUP???

[Guiness]

If Al Davis were still alive, he'd try to trade for him in the off season.

Who was the Dallas CB?

[Guiness]

They gave him a PICKUP???

Not just a pickup. A Silverado! lol

[esoxx]

Who was the Dallas CB?

Larry Brown

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news

Malcolm Smith wins MVP

Published: February 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Malcolm Smith is the Super Bowl XLVIII MVP. The Seahawks linebacker recorded a pick six on a Peyton Manning interception, and becomes the first defensive player to win the award since Dexter Jackson in 2003. Read

Good for Malcolm Smith.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014020200/2013/POST22/seahawks@broncos#menu=highlights&tab=recap

Seahawks crush Broncos for first Super Bowl win


EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. --

The Seattle Seahawks have won their first Super Bowl title, crushing the favored Denver Broncos 43-8.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014020200/2013/POST22/seahawks@broncos#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore

Full Box Score For The Game.

[digitaldean]

The CFO from my company is Seattle GM John Schneider's sister. She was at the game today with the whole family. Going to be a big party in the Big Apple tonight! Congrats to the Seahawks.

I still think Pete Carroll is a little smarmy with his ducking USC before the sanctions hammer came down. But I'm happier than heck for former Badgers Russell Wilson, Chris Maragos and O'Brien Schofield.

Amazingly Joe Buck said something profound about Wilson...that he is a born leader. He exuded that when he was at Wisconsin and is one of the few classy players on that Seattle squad. He made plays today, but that defense rattled Manning. In fact, after that safety Manning didn't look himself the remainder of the game. The Denver defense tackled worse than the Packer's D did this year.

Felt really bad for Montee Ball. 3 straight Rose Bowl losses and then this train wreck of a game. He is a very good back that will hopefully make it back again someday.

Denver's D did their part in keeping Seattle to an 8 point lead after the 2 Seattle trips to the red zone. Then a disaster turned into a complete clusterf*** for Denver. They couldn't block, they couldn't hold onto the ball, Manning threw a bunch of wounded ducks out there.

[mraynrand]

Manning threw a bunch of wounded ducks out there

Sherman was right!
Sherman wins it all!

It actually felt good typing that.

[Iron Mike]

Biggest blowout in Seattle since Kurt Cobain's brains....

[channtheman]

Biggest blowout in Seattle since Kurt Cobain's brains....

Welp, I'm going to hell. :lol:

Thank god I didn't have a drink in my mouth.

[Iron Mike]

http://i.imgur.com/7mZXA09.gif

[denverYooper]

Holy shit! Percy!

LORD HAVE PERCY!

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

LORD HAVE PERCY!

How is Denver this morning? Flags at half mast? I heard fireworks after the game around here but I figured it was just the locals blowing their brains out.

[denverYooper]

Adam Gase should have taken a job while he had a chance. Broncos Defense has had some trouble but they are still fighting.

Broncos offense doesn't know what to do.

If Bob McGinn worked in Denver he would write that McCoy was the real brains behind Denver's Offense and he wouldn't have been bamboozled by the Seahawks.

The screens and crossers they used to such great effect all year were not gaining much and getting guys blasted. They had a ton of 20+ plays on those. Seattle was giving them to Denver and then just plastering the WR. DT caught a bunch of balls and was looking to avoid contact. They'd get him going sideways and he was done.

Maybe M3 was onto something when he was looking to go deep on them. Manning had guys open deep a few times and just couldn't make the throws.

[denverYooper]

How is Denver this morning? Flags at half mast? I heard fireworks after the game around here but I figured it was just the locals blowing their brains out.

People are in shock, I think. Everyone's pretty muted so far.

Being a Packers fan and seeing how the Seahawks and 9ers play ball against our team, I wasn't surprised at how they played. I think Denver was surprised by how physical the Seahawks were, and I think Denver's fans were not ready to see that.

[denverYooper]

Denver's tackles are terrible pass blockers on speed rushes. The RT can be bulled as well. Awful. This line looks a lot like this year's Packers O line at times.

Amazing how losing an All-Pro LT changes things, eh? A lot of people didn't feel like the Broncos really missed Ryan Clady and his hefty contract this year. Last night they sure missed him.

Same with Von Miller, who will be up for a new contract soon. They needed him badly.

[denverYooper]

Give the MVP to the pick 6 guy

Winner!

[denverYooper]

Yeah, like the Packers, they were just a fingernail length away from advancing.

Maybe San Fransisco needs to Fire Fangio! Get some FAs!

[Patler]

Amazing how losing an All-Pro LT changes things, eh? A lot of people didn't feel like the Broncos really missed Ryan Clady and his hefty contract this year. Last night they sure missed him.

Same with Von Miller, who will be up for a new contract soon. They needed him badly.

Ron Wolf used to say that Packer fans were spoiled by having Favre, and not realizing what a lot of other teams had to put up with at QB. Now we continue to be spoiled by Rodgers.

But, I think we were also spoiled by nearly 10 years having Clifton and Tauscher at tackles. Maybe neither was quite elite as an all-around tackle, but both were just so solid as pass blockers that neither one needed help in the passing game whether they faced speed rushers or power rusher. Tauscher sometimes looked like he was hanging on by his fingernails, but hang on he did.

[denverYooper]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 21m
RT @corryjoel: Seattle about $4.25M over '14 cap (assumes $126.3M cap) once top 51 is filled out (includes RFA & exclusive rights tenders)

[Joemailman]

Security a little lax at the postgame PC apparently.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/03/malcolm-smiths-mvp-press-conference-interrupted-by-911-truther/?eref=sihp

[denverYooper]

Interesting note, I heard on the radio that Fox "turned the simulated crowd noise down" at their pre-superbowl practices because the crowd at superbowls is usually pretty quiet. That sure looked like a bad decision right from the jump last night.

[pbmax]

The screens and crossers they used to such great effect all year were not gaining much and getting guys blasted. They had a ton of 20+ plays on those. Seattle was giving them to Denver and then just plastering the WR. DT caught a bunch of balls and was looking to avoid contact. They'd get him going sideways and he was done.

Maybe M3 was onto something when he was looking to go deep on them. Manning had guys open deep a few times and just couldn't make the throws.

I am thinking this more and more. Earl Thomas is probably the exception, but you don't get your CB core in the middle to late rounds without giving up something. If they have size and technique (at least quasi-legal grabbing) then the top end speed might be where you take them on.

But you have to pass protect.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Ron Wolf used to say that Packer fans were spoiled by having Favre, and not realizing what a lot of other teams had to put up with at QB. Now we continue to be spoiled by Rodgers.

But, I think we were also spoiled by nearly 10 years having Clifton and Tauscher at tackles. Maybe neither was quite elite as an all-around tackle, but both were just so solid as pass blockers that neither one needed help in the passing game whether they faced speed rushers or power rusher. Tauscher sometimes looked like he was hanging on by his fingernails, but hang on he did.

That is an excellent, excellent point.

[mraynrand]

I think Denver was surprised by how physical the Seahawks were, and I think Denver's fans were not ready to see that.

Absolutely. After watching Seatte at SF and then watching them play again in the playoffs, I'm amazed that these guys made it through the season with as few injuries as they have. Even when you are dishing out blows like they do, you still usually get beat up.

[pbmax]

Absolutely. After watching Seatte at SF and then watching them play again in the playoffs, I'm amazed that these guys made it through the season with as few injuries as they have. Even when you are dishing out blows like they do, you still usually get beat up.

They started losing DBs near the end of the game and suddenly Denver looked capable of completing a pass.

[Bossman641]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 21m
RT @corryjoel: Seattle about $4.25M over '14 cap (assumes $126.3M cap) once top 51 is filled out (includes RFA & exclusive rights tenders)

Rice either won't be coming back at all, or will be coming back at a greatly reduced rate. We will see where Seattle goes from here, it's much harder to sustain success. Both Sherman and Thomas' contracts are up after the 2014 season, have to believe at least one of them will get an extension this summer. They get at least one more year of a cheap Russel Wilson as he's not eligible for a new contract until after next season.