View Full Version : Packers Sign DL Letroy Guion
SMBASS
03-17-2014, 03:28 PM
@TyDunne: #Packers sign another. Guion's agent... RT @thkleine14 Extremely happy for Troy Guion on agreeing to terms with the @packers.
26 yr. old ex-Vike was signed by the Packers to a 1 year deal today. Haven't seen any contract details yet. Guion was released last week.
Tony Oday
03-17-2014, 03:33 PM
TT press conference ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S02BHmWPZNs
SMBASS
03-17-2014, 03:35 PM
@RobDemovsky: Guion's deal is for 1 year, could be worth up to $1 million. Base of $730K. SB of $100K plus weekly roster bonuses, per a source. #Packers
smuggler
03-17-2014, 03:36 PM
Since the Vikes had cut him, he won't factor into the comp picks for next year's draft. Always a consideration where TT is concerned. I kinda see this guy going the way of Philip Merling. Camp body and then gone at the final cutdown.
gbgary
03-17-2014, 03:38 PM
he's not a fat guy...6'4" 303 lb.
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2012/1011/20121011__121012Guion_300.jpg
he's not a fat guy...6'4" 303 lb.
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2012/1011/20121011__121012Guion_300.jpg
no, but a real nice size for a 3-4 DE
RASTAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
INFO PLEASE
SMBASS
03-17-2014, 03:41 PM
Really don't know anything about him. 6-4 and 303 lbs. sounds like a good 5-tech DE sized guy. Maybe the C.J. Wilson experiment is finally over with?
its a very low risk signing . you bring in a young guy with the right measurements and see if he can play
maybe camp fodder, but maybe he works out. we're not paying much to find out
good signing imo
Guiness
03-17-2014, 03:46 PM
@TyDunne: #Packers sign another. Guion's agent... RT @thkleine14 Extremely happy for Troy Guion on agreeing to terms with the @packers.
26 yr. old ex-Vike was signed by the Packers to a 1 year deal today. Haven't seen any contract details yet. Guion was released last week.
How many DL do the Packers have under contract now? Seems like a bunch!
gbgary
03-17-2014, 03:48 PM
stealth thompson doing work. #didntseeitcoming
check that, maybe it wasn't the greatest signing. looks like maybe camp fodder
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2014/3/6/5478842/vikings-release-letroy-guion-and-greg-childs
Letroy Guion was the lowest rated defensive lineman on the team by Pro Football Focus
maybe the kid just needs to change teams and schemes?
smuggler
03-17-2014, 03:50 PM
Jolly isn't even signed yet. :O
gbgary
03-17-2014, 03:50 PM
started 13 games for min last year. should be more than camp fodder.
How many DL do the Packers have under contract now? Seems like a bunch!
boyd
daniels
datone
worthy
raji
this new guy
sometimes neal
maybe pepper
and a chance pickett and or jolly could return
from pff
Letroy Guion was always miscast as a nose tackle in the 4-3 Minnesota has been using, and the team could save $4M by jettisoning his $4.3m salary this offseason (per overthecap.com). Maybe he would have more joy in Mike Zimmer’s new defense, but the Vikings would be better off clearing his contract and bringing him back afresh to find out.
they ranked him as a below average starter/adequate role player
SMBASS
03-17-2014, 03:56 PM
How many DL do the Packers have under contract now? Seems like a bunch!
I'm not sure but it's seems like maybe 7?
Not Signed: Pickett, Wilson, and Jolly.
Signed: Guion, Peppers, Worthy, Daniels, Raji, Boyd, Jones (Am I missing anyone?)
I think they carried 8 on the final 53 man roster last year and Wilson was inactive for a bunch of games.
gbgary
03-17-2014, 04:22 PM
had more sacks last year (1) than pickett and raji combined.
ouch.
Brohm
03-17-2014, 04:52 PM
Vikings cut Gilbert Brown once upon a time :-)
KYPack
03-17-2014, 05:12 PM
C'mon Ras, give us a scouting report.
hes is probably too busy laughing at us
3irty1
03-17-2014, 05:29 PM
Guion is a tub of shit. I'll be impressed if he makes the 53.
pbmax
03-17-2014, 05:30 PM
Bretsky, that's two. Time for an avatar change!
pbmax
03-17-2014, 05:33 PM
If he was poor as a nose in a 4-3 under Frazier, I doubt he is playing NT behind Raji in a 3-4 at 76" and 308 pounds. Sounds like a DE. Even PFF says he shouldn't have been at nose.
Still no obvious backup to Raji unless they REALLY like Boyd there. Outside of preseason, not sure we saw him there.
KYPack
03-17-2014, 05:40 PM
Guion is a tub of shit. I'll be impressed if he makes the 53.
Really?
I'd like to get a real old-fashioned Packer Rats argument over this, but I have no recollection of this guy. I have an idea of most of the players on the 3 rivals, but I can't say that I ever remember this guy playing a down of defense for the Queens, let alone starting 13 games.
Rastak
03-17-2014, 05:44 PM
hes is probably too busy laughing at us
Not laughing but he was pretty bad last year. He got outplayed by Fred Evans but for some reason Frazier kept trotting him out there. He was asked to play more of a NT position so maybe he can be better in some other role. There was alot of excitement with Viking fans when he was cut. He ranked 60 out of 69 DTs per Pro Football Focus.
Not sure what role TT has in mind.
see, camp fodder
thank you ras
Rastak
03-17-2014, 05:58 PM
see, camp fodder
thank you ras
Sometimes a change of scenery or different role helps. Vikings sign a cb named Cox off SD Chargers and he was beyond shitty last year You never know what they see in these guys.
run pMc
03-17-2014, 05:59 PM
Wasn't Guion the one who used to get all the dumb offsides penalties?
Seems like he's more of a 5 tech than NT, but I'm not exactly in love with this. Seems like a depth pick in case the draft or TC doesn't go how they like and they aren't stuck pulling guys off the street like CHI was last year.
I have no idea how 'athletic' he is. Agree they still need a backup NT. I don't know if Boyd is the answer, but I didn't get the sense the coaches wanted him at nose.
run pMc
03-17-2014, 06:01 PM
Sometimes a change of scenery or different role helps. Vikings sign a cb named Cox off SD Chargers and he was beyond shitty last year You never know what they see in these guys.
LOL
yeah I guess Derek Cox was benched 3 times in 4 weeks. Are you thinking he'll fit right in with Josh Robinson? FWIW I think Zimmer will improve that defense, and the team will be better than 4-5 wins.
Rastak
03-17-2014, 06:04 PM
LOL
yeah I guess Derek Cox was benched 3 times in 4 weeks. Are you thinking he'll fit right in with Josh Robinson? FWIW I think Zimmer will improve that defense, and the team will be better than 4-5 wins.
Robinson was actually playing better after a horrendous start when he fractured his sternum. THAT has to sting.
Seems like a depth pick in case the draft or TC doesn't go how they like and they aren't stuck pulling guys off the street like CHI was last year.
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well,i wish they would get a guy like that for safety, so just in case the draft doesn't work out we aren't stuck with complete shit like last year
Joemailman
03-17-2014, 06:24 PM
@TyDunne: #Packers sign another. Guion's agent... RT @thkleine14 Extremely happy for Troy Guion on agreeing to terms with the @packers.
26 yr. old ex-Vike was signed by the Packers to a 1 year deal today. Haven't seen any contract details yet. Guion was released last week.
He's a JAG. Just A Gui(on).
HarveyWallbangers
03-17-2014, 06:45 PM
A few years ago I liked his potential. He was pretty solid. The whole DL fell off last year. I always felt he'd make a better 3-4 DE and a Vikings buddy of mine agrees. He thinks he'll be a solid rotational guy. More than likely, he's C.J. Wilson but a bit better in pass rush and a bit worse in run defense.
gbgary
03-17-2014, 06:55 PM
He's a JAG. Just A Gui(on).
:rs:
pbmax
03-17-2014, 06:56 PM
The Ted Directive 2: Electric Boogaloo
Taller, Longer, More Athletic
by Bob McGinn
Bretsky
03-17-2014, 07:37 PM
Bretsky, that's two. Time for an avatar change!
HOLY CRAP:....might have to do that...wait...this guy got cut by the Vikings.....for being bad...didn't he ?? does he count ..Didn't we always accuse them of taking our hav nots ??
3irty1
03-17-2014, 07:39 PM
Really?
I'd like to get a real old-fashioned Packer Rats argument over this, but I have no recollection of this guy. I have an idea of most of the players on the 3 rivals, but I can't say that I ever remember this guy playing a down of defense for the Queens, let alone starting 13 games.
Oh yeah, and Packer fans should know because his two outings against us last year were especially shitty. He looks the part but he's painfully slow and not stout at all for a NT.
Brandon494
03-17-2014, 07:44 PM
Like Peppers, Guion was released by his old team. Therefore, he will not affect the Packers' possible compensatory picks in 2015.
Lmao, so who have the Lions cut recently?
HarveyWallbangers
03-17-2014, 07:47 PM
To be fair, he showed enough potential for the Vikings to give him over $3M/year in 2012, so perhaps a change of scenery will help. I'm not expecting much. It's a C.J. Wilson-like signing, but it's possible he adds some depth. Here's what Spielman said when they resigned him:
"He's an extremely talented athlete," Spielman said. "I know when we had meetings on all of our personnel, we still think there's a huge, huge upside to Letroy.
"I know we played him some at three-technique and some at nose. Talking with (new line coach) Brendan Daly when he came in and (new coordinator) Alan Williams, we feel if we can settle him in at one spot and let him learn and grow in that particular spot that he's only go to learn and grow in that particular spot that he's only going to improve and get better."
The Packers are likely to use him differently.
pbmax
03-17-2014, 07:58 PM
Yeah, unless Dom goes 4-3, I think he plays 5 tech for the Packers.
Which makes me wonder, does the move of Raji back to nose mean that Eagle Oakie is gone? Because if it is, then the run D might improve with the even front. Its one of the reasons M3 wanted to go 3-4 when he was looking for a DC in 2008/9.
If Eagle Oakie is gone, then there are two 5 tech DE spots up for grabs, not just one.
woodbuck27
03-17-2014, 08:06 PM
no, but a real nice size for a 3-4 DE
RASTAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
INFO PLEASE
He looks better than that lump named Raji.
smuggler
03-18-2014, 02:14 AM
If we do end up keeping this Gui (that's already a bit of a leap), don't be shocked to see him line up in a front of Peppers/Guion/Raji/DJones with Peppers as an elephant OLB
Pugger
03-18-2014, 09:06 AM
I had to open this thread so I could find out who the hell this guy was. :lol:
run pMc
03-18-2014, 09:13 AM
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-james-jones-signs-deal-with-oakland-raiders-b99227418z1-250727811.html
Guion goes 6-3.5 315# according to the JSO. They say he can play anywhere along the line, but he doesn't sound like the brightest jewel in the casket.
Guion's arms were measured at an exceptional 347/8 inches at the '08 combine. He bench-pressed 26 times, posted a 30-inch vertical jump and ran 40 yards in 5.31 seconds.
Two scouts said there was no question that Guion has the size and strength to hold up at nose tackle in a 3-4 defense.
"This kid will give you everything Pickett did," one scout said. "He is a powerful, powerful man. But Pickett would be a much smarter player."
Guion also has extensive experience as a three-technique defensive tackle and, according to one scout, could function over the tackle as a five-technique end.
"It's worth a shot," another personnel man said. "He's country strong. He's fairly athletic and he's played good at times."
I love it when the scouting report on a player is "It's worth a shot".
mraynrand
03-18-2014, 09:22 AM
Guion goes 6-3.5 315# according to the JSO. They say he can play anywhere along the line, but he doesn't sound like the brightest jewel in the casket.
He's dead already
Tony Oday
03-18-2014, 11:06 AM
Just from listening to KFAN up here they like him. Not a terribly great player but he does not NEED to be smart, Pat Williams could speak English but he was a great fat bodied player.
I like the signing.
Patler
03-19-2014, 04:56 AM
Contract terms per GBPG:
Defensive lineman Letroy Guion’s one-year contract with the Packers will pay him $985,000, according to a report by USA Today.
Guion received a $100,000 signing bonus and will make a base salary of $730,000. He also will make per-game roster bonuses of up to $105,000 and a workout bonus of $50,000.
His base salary is the vet minimum for him, but I don't think his contract qualifies for the salary cap offset because his bonuses are too high. Looks like the entire amount will count against the Packers salary cap if he makes the final roster.
woodbuck27
03-19-2014, 05:39 AM
DT Newly acquired Letroy Guion's ( 2013 - Minny ) received a 1 yr. contract for (up to $1 million) and a $100 K$ signing bonus, per ESPN's Rob Demovsky.
B. J. Raji agreed to a 1 Yr. contract worth $4 million and is expected to be moved to NT.
It might be then projected that if he makes the roster Letroy Guion could backup BJ Raji), and/or be a rotational player on the DL.
Letroy Guion started all 28 games that he appeared in for the club over the past two seasons (2012-13), posting 72 tackles (32 solo), three sacks, 1 FF, 2 PD, and a fumble recovery.
DT Letroy Guion ( Cost maximum $1 million$) ... 2013 - 21 total tackles, 1 SACK , 1 FF and 1 PD.
Compared to :
BJ Raji in 2012-13...in 28 games posted 43 tackles ( 13 solo), ZERO SACKS, ) 0 FF and 2 PD
DT B. J. Raji ( Cost minimum $4 Million$) ... 2013 - 17 total tackles and 'No SACKS for two season's and counting; 0 FF; 0 PD.
GO PACK GO !
Fritz
03-19-2014, 09:34 AM
Based on his build and what people are saying about his play, he looks far more like a 5-tech than a nose tackle to me.
MadtownPacker
03-19-2014, 04:20 PM
Vikings always have solid DL. This is a sweet low risk move.
I think TT wants to go out with a SuperBowl trophy and a middle finger to all his doubters.
Fritz
03-19-2014, 04:42 PM
It'd be sweet if they won it this year, and TT held the SB trophy so his middle finger was sticking up.
My prediction is that we'll know he's retiring when he amasses two or three high-round extra picks for the following year. That means he's gonna bestow those picks on his successor, as a parting gift.
Not like Shermy, who left a sal cap mess for his successor.
Good, solid coach, ol' Shermy. Mostly. I liked his offensive philosophy. But as a GM, he was about as good as Bart Starr. Maybe worse.
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