2014 Green Bay Packers 7 Round Mock Draft 2.0

[Brandon494]

Decided not to make any trades in this version and now with the correct compensatory picks.


1st Rd. 29th pick FS Calvin Pryor (Louisville)

Impact player who should make his presence felt day 1 in the NFL, someone we need on this defense and especially at the safety position.


Strengths Very good instincts. Physical, lights-out hitter (see second defensive snap of UCF game). Very aggressive running the alley and seeks to make his presence felt in the run game. Sacrifices his body. Defensive tempo-setter. Made a spectacular, one-handed INT vs. UCF. Good pre-snap recognition -- makes adjustments. Explosive tackler. Can leverage the field off the hash and cover ground. Good zone recognition. Rangy enough to play center field. Carries a swagger and plays with confidence.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/calvin-pryor?id=2543469

http://www.thefootballeducator.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TGC-Calvin-Pryor-Mock-Draft.jpg







2nd Rd. 53rd pick TE Jace Amaro (Texas Tech)

Instant starter on offense and has the potential to be a Cameron Jordan type playmaker at TE.


Strengths Excellent size with a well-proportioned frame and room for added bulk. Releases cleanly into routes. Moves like an oversized receiver. Good balance. Enough foot speed to stretch the seam. Good hands to extend and catch. Gives effort as a move blocker and can block out defensive backs. Flashes nastiness. Historic one-year production.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/jace-amaro?id=2543481

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3rd Rd. 85th pick WR Allen Robinson (Penn St)

Robinson played in a pro style offense at Penn St and could step in right away as our #3/#4 receiver.


Strengths
Excellent size. Good line release -- defeats press. Sinks his hips, breaks off sharply and creates separation. Works back to the ball. Climbs the ladder -- has elevation and body control to contort and make plays in the air. Turns short throws into chunk plays -- gets upfield quickly and shows shiftiness, vision and run strength. Executed a full route tree in a pro-style offense. Highly productive -- totaled 174-2,445-17 (14.0) in last two seasons. Will be a 21-year-old rookie.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/allen-robinson?id=2543509

http://media.centredaily.com/smedia/2013/11/02/17/56/ujomN.AuSt.42.jpeg







3rd Rd. 98rd pick OLB Ronald Powell (Florida)

This kid could be a stud, former #1 DE recruit coming out of H.S. Would provide more pass rush and someone to replace Peppers down the road.


Looks the part -- well-proportioned, athletic, muscular build. Natural bender. Terrific agility. Can stunt and loop. Closes fast. Flashes strong hands and power potential. Loose hips to zone drop. Was deployed as a stand-up linebacker and hand-in-the-dirt rush end. Has untapped potential.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/ronald-powell?id=2543579

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4th Rd. 121th pick OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (McGill Canada)

Top rated prospect from Canada who is projected to play inside in the pros. Could be a starter down the road and gives us depth across the line.


Strengths Looks the part with outstanding upper-body strength and massive quads. Stout anchor in pass protection. Violent shock in his punch. Plays with a nasty temperament and seeks to bury defenders into the ground. Aggressive run blocker -- runs his feet on contact and plays beyond the whistle. Is physically and mentally tough and will play through pain (fought through a torn left labrum injury as a senior and never took himself out of a game or missed time). Highly intelligent (in medical program) and football smart. Can take concepts from the board to the field.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/laurent-duvernay-tardif?id=2543816

https://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptcacflexperts/Laurent-Duvernay-Tardif.jpg







5th Rd. 161th pick DT Daniel McCullers (Tennessee)

This guy is huge but hes raw, could be our future replacement for Raji.


Strengths Looks every bit the part with a relatively lean build for a 350-pounder -- carries his weight well with some muscle definition and good overall body thickness. Rare size with vines for arms, an enormous wingspan and exceptional mass to occupy space and hold up multiple blockers -- has clear two-gap potential. Can overpower zone blockers with sheer size. Very durable and has not missed any games to injury throughout his career.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/daniel-mccullers?id=2543754

http://media.govolsxtra.com/media/img/photos/2013/10/21/220949_t607.JPG








5th Rd. 176th pick ILB Shayne Skov (Stanford)

This kid was a playmaker before knee injuries slowed him down, could be a steal if he can return to his old form.


Strengths Outstanding instincts and recognition -- plays much faster than he clocks on a stopwatch. Goes full throttle and plays very hard. Times up the blitz extremely well. Explosive tackler. Alert in coverage. Intense emotional leader. Vocal leader. Has a love for the game and it shows. Ideal special-teams temperament.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/shayne-skov?id=2543753

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6th Rd. 197th pick CB Chris Davis (Auburn)

Gives us depth at CB and could factor as a return man.


Strengths Physical supporting the run -- fills quickly and likes to hit. Tough pound-for-pound. Takes on bigger receivers with aggression and sets a hard edge. Plays off blocks well. Good open-field tackler. Good press strength to re-route receivers at the line. Alert in zones. Has big-play return ability (recorded most memorable play of the 2013 season returning field goal 109 yards for TD vs. Alabama). Can factor as a punt returner with a low center of gravity and good run strength. Emotional, energetic field presence. Respected team leader.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/chris-davis?id=2543693

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7th Rd. 236th pick QB David Fales (San Jose St)

The next Flynn? Maybe better?


Strengths Well built (works hard in the weight room). Sets up cleanly and with balance. Nice play fake. Compact, three-quarters release with clean, quick arm action. Throws a clean spiral with good short-to-intermediate accuracy. Flashes touch. Confident and competitive. Tough and durable. Sparkling intangibles -- outstanding personal and football character. Leads vocally and by example and is universally respected. Intelligent, passionate, motivated football junkie who takes pride in his craft and puts the time in to improve.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/david-fales?id=2543751

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[Joemailman]

If you're not making any trades, the Packers 1st pick is at #21, not #29. Not sure if that would change your pick.

Amaro would be a good value at #53 if available. Probably has more upside than Fiedorowicz.

[Brandon494]

If you're not making any trades, the Packers 1st pick is at #21, not #29. Not sure if that would change your pick.

Amaro would be a good value at #53 if available. Probably has more upside than Fiedorowicz.

Opps typo, thanks for catching that, couldn't sleep last night so decided to make another mock draft. For some reason its not letting my edit my post though.

[smuggler]

I doubt Amaro, Robinson, or Skov are there for us where we are picking in those rounds, but I would be pretty stoked.

[Brandon494]

I doubt Amaro, Robinson, or Skov are there for us where we are picking in those rounds, but I would be pretty stoked.

No one thought Lacy would drop to us in the 2nd round either. Amaro and Robinson didn't have impressive combines and Skov still isn't fully healed which could drop their stock....hopefully.

[BZnDallas]

No one thought Lacy would drop to us in the 2nd round either. Amaro and Robinson didn't have impressive combines and Skov still isn't fully healed which could drop their stock....hopefully.

That Center from Alabama fell to the 4th round I believe because of his ankle injury... and he was supposed to be one of the best all around football OL in the draft... I can see were Skov could fall a bit if his injuries are an issue.... not sure about Amaro or Robinson... i'd take both in a second...

[smuggler]

I was actually confusing Amaro with ASJ, the other tight end, so there is a chance he would be there in the 2nd for us. As for Robinson, I am not convinced he will fall all the way through the second and then more than half the third to us, but I'd love the hell out of it.

[RashanGary]

Mock drafts are always exciting. Thanks brandon.

[Brandon494]

You are probably right about Robinson, I thought maybe with his slow 40 time and WR position being deep he could drop. Either way there should be some nice WR prospects left at the end of the 3rd for us to select.

[mission]

I actually like this draft a lot... maybe a little optimistic, but I'd take it!

[Pugger]

But will Pryor still be there at #21? I rather doubt it. :sad:

[call_me_ishmael]

Love this draft, too.

Pryor is going to fall guys. He is 5'11" instead of the 6'2" Louisville had him listed at. He ran a 4.6. That's slow for a safety. I'm confident he'll be available, the question is whether he is a first round pick.

[run pMc]

Prior has a shot at being there at 21. Depends on how the board falls and who else is there, and whether TT likes him.
I'd think 5'11" safeties that run a 4.6 can be found outside of R1. Seems TT likes safeties that are either bigger (burnett, richardson, rouse) or better athletes (collins), so I'm skeptical about Prior's chances of being on GB's roster.
Which means I'll be wrong.

If Allen Robinson is there in R3 and TT hasn't picked a WR yet, I'd like that pick.

[digitaldean]

Like the idea of Skov at LB. Sucks about the knee injury, but the kid has a nose for the football. Watched him on some of the late night PAC-10 games.

[wist43]

I haven't looked at the draft too much... just starting to try to get a handle on some of the guys. Wouldn't mind seeing us trade down a couple of times at the top of the draft. The draft looks really deep.

So far, these are some guys I like - that according to some sites may be available when our picks come up. I only went thru round 5, pick 161.

1st round, pick #21

Bradley Roby, CB - Ohio State

http://billsfanatics.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/bradleyrobey.png

2nd round, pick #53

Donte Moncrief, WR - Ole Miss

http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/11913527-large.jpg

3rd round, pick #85

Telvin Smith, LB, Florida State

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/937/648/6_648937.jpg

3rd round, pick #98

Jered Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin

http://prod.www.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/article_images/2014/02-february/140226-abbrederis-300.jpg

4th round, pick #121

Howard Jones, LB, Shepard

http://wordpress.nflsfuture.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/howard-jones.jpg

5th round, pick #161

James Hurst, OT, North Carolina

http://beyondthecombine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/James-Hurst-North-Carolina.jpg

[texaspackerbacker]

I refused to trade down, and I could never make an offer good enough to be accepted to trade up - oh well. This is what I got:

Round 1 Pick 21: Haha Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 21: Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
Round 3 Pick 21: Dion Bailey, FS, Southern California
Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State
Round 4 Pick 21: Ahmad Dixon, SS, Baylor
Round 5 Pick 21: Donald Hawkins, OT, Texas
Round 5 Pick 36 (COMP): Michael Sam, DE, Missouri
Round 6 Pick 21: Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama
Round 7 Pick 21: Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

It's smart to double up or even more on positions of need - similar to what Ted did with RBs last year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It's smart to double up or even more on positions of need - similar to what Ted did with RBs last year.

How is that an example of successfully doubling up? Franklin contributed very little last year. In his one good game he had a crucial fumble. We could have used that pick at another position. WR Kenny Stills went to New Orleans soon after. I remember us tripling up at CB in 1999, and we got one good player out of it in Mike McKenzie. (Well, two good players since we traded Vinson for Ahman Green, but that was just a team giving up on a superstar too early because of his fumbling; Vinson turned out to be a bust.)

[Brandon494]

I still like Franklin's potential and at the time was considered a great value pick. I do agree doubling down would not be the best move since we need help at WR and TE as well.

[Smidgeon]

But will Pryor still be there at #21? I rather doubt it. :sad:

The mocks I've been reading don't even have him going in the first. Ha Ha was the only safety in the first. So based on some mocks I've seen, he could be available. I still don't know if he's a good fit for GB though. If he's picked and isn't all-pro... !!!!!

[wist43]

I refused to trade down, and I could never make an offer good enough to be accepted to trade up - oh well. This is what I got:

Round 1 Pick 21: Haha Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 21: Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
Round 3 Pick 21: Dion Bailey, FS, Southern California
Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State
Round 4 Pick 21: Ahmad Dixon, SS, Baylor
Round 5 Pick 21: Donald Hawkins, OT, Texas
Round 5 Pick 36 (COMP): Michael Sam, DE, Missouri
Round 6 Pick 21: Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama
Round 7 Pick 21: Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

It's smart to double up or even more on positions of need - similar to what Ted did with RBs last year.

I'm okay with Clinton-Dix, and like Christian Jones and Ahmad Dixon.

Want nothing to do with Borland in the 2nd round... he's a low round pick IMO. Dion Bailey is too soft for my liking.

Don't want the gay guy at all.

[wist43]

The mocks I've been reading don't even have him going in the first. Ha Ha was the only safety in the first. So based on some mocks I've seen, he could be available. I still don't know if he's a good fit for GB though. If he's picked and isn't all-pro... !!!!!

CBSSportline, all four guys have him going in the 1st round, ranging from #14 to #29.

I like Pryor a lot, and would be okay with him at 21.

[Brandon494]

The mocks I've been reading don't even have him going in the first. Ha Ha was the only safety in the first. So based on some mocks I've seen, he could be available. I still don't know if he's a good fit for GB though. If he's picked and isn't all-pro... !!!!!

What do you mean? The guy has dreads, hes a lock to get picked by us.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/13264.png&w=350&h=254

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And how they feel playing at Lambeau during the winter....

http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Cool-Runnings.jpg

[mraynrand]

What a dredful lineup!

[denverYooper]

http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/woodrow_wilson_1910s.jpg

[Brandon494]

Come on man its a Packers board.......SAY CHEESE!!!!!




http://www.doctorzebra.com/imprez/28teeth.jpg

[denverYooper]

Those were some different times for dental science.

[Bretsky]

The more I read about the draft ...the more I like your above picks

[3irty1]

I like the odds of your first two picks happening.

[smuggler]

http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=xpqoax

Dominating computer GMs is pretty fun.

[Bretsky]

I like the odds of your first two picks happening.


I'm a bit of a pre draft addict. I've developed some views due to listening to way way too many mock drafts. I too would LOVE those first two picks
but
I don't think the top two safeties make it past the Bears. There are just way too many teams needing this position and these two guys IMO are going to get premium value placed on them. Plus, I pegged Prior and Ebron many montage ad Ted doesn't embrace my predictions.......:)

In addition, I don't think there is any way Ebron or Mosely fall either. I can see the big slugs falling but I don't want them. I don't want the big #2 TE either. He just looks awkward like Bubba Franks

I can see a few nice values at WR at 21 but I'd be slightly surprised to see TT go there.

I'm at a pointe there I'd be at peace with Ryan Shazier out of OSU as a legitimate OLB in the 3-4 to team up with Matthews.

[mraynrand]

I'm at a pointe there I'd be at peace with Ryan Shazier out of OSU as a legitimate OLB in the 3-4 to team up with Matthews.

Blackhawk! Man he's tiny for an OLB. Chicago might take him first. If they don't take a DL.

[Brandon494]

Blackhawk! Man he's tiny for an OLB. Chicago might take him first. If they don't take a DL.

He would play ILB for us and I actually think there is a good chance we do pick him. CJ Mosley isn't falling to us and the two top safeties could be off the board as well. The guy has excellent speed to cover and run the zone blitz, he'll be a guy you would never have to take off the field. I know hes no where near as good but he could play a Patrick Willis type role for us with his athleticism.

[Brandon494]

Good scouting video on the Shazier


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Md3ZDL3k8

[smuggler]

Yeah guys like Shazier or Telvin smith would play on the inside for us.

[Bretsky]

At worst Shazier puts Brad Just a Jag Jones the bench forever which greatly improves our defense. He'd be a sneaky pick if TT could find somebody wanting to trade up a few spots so TT moves down a few and gets another pick.

Or you just take him at 21. I've never completely bought in to "having" to get draft value. I don't mind a slight reach where we're at as long as you draft somebody who is going to be productive. . for a QB. At 21 the BPA might very well be a WR if the draft plays out like I think it would. I have no problem grabbing a WR there............but Shazier in reality helps up win sooner a lot more than a WR. And I think if need be he can play outside LB as well.

[run pMc]

Yeah guys like Shazier or Telvin smith would play on the inside for us.

Thought I read somewhere that Telvin Smith goes about 215-220 and doesn't want to switch to Safety. Shazier bulked up to about 235 and kept his speed. Smith has to get bigger. Capers is going to want his ILB at least 230-240; otherwise just bring in a DB.

Was not a big fan of Shazier but I admit to having watched zero OSU games this year and being biased against the typical athletic OSU LB. I might get talked into him (or Smith in a late round) as a good pick eventually.
I certainly won't claim to be a college football expert.

[run pMc]

At worst Shazier puts Brad Just a Jag Jones the bench forever which greatly improves our defense. He'd be a sneaky pick if TT could find somebody wanting to trade up a few spots so TT moves down a few and gets another pick.

Or you just take him at 21. I've never completely bought in to "having" to get draft value. I don't mind a slight reach where we're at as long as you draft somebody who is going to be productive. . for a QB. At 21 the BPA might very well be a WR if the draft plays out like I think it would. I have no problem grabbing a WR there............but Shazier in reality helps up win sooner a lot more than a WR. And I think if need be he can play outside LB as well.

Agree Hawk/Jones pair needs upgrading. I think if there's a similarly ranked player at another position they might go there instead of ILB. They have Lattimore and Barrington waiting in the wings and I think they'll push for time. If Mosley or Shazier is there they will take a long look at them though.

I don't think anyone -- not even TT himself -- knows what name TT will write on that R1 card. Could be Mosley, Nix, Prior, Shazier, Odell Beckham (a dark horse IMO, he'd at worst be the #4WR and return kicks) among others. It depends on how the draft board falls. TT's gonna go BPA and I'm ok with that. Drafting for need can get teams into trouble.

[mraynrand]

Drafting for need can get teams into trouble.

"did someone mention my name?"

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Tennessee+Titans+v+Green+Bay+Packers+3n5kwyzgxxRl. jpg

[Brandon494]

Yea drafting for need never works out... :-)

http://themeatlockersports.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/clay-matthews.jpg

[Guiness]

"did someone mention my name?"


I assume that's Brohm and not Hasselbeck, but don't see where either was a need pick?

[mraynrand]

Matthews was drafting for want!

The drafting for need versus BPA debate cracks me up. Good teams combine both strategies. Consider the absurd example - say you had players rated and every time your selection came up the BPA was a WR - you wouldn't draft 9 WRs - you have your team needs and maybe you pick the position you need who is rated slightly less than the BPA WR because, well because you aren't Mike Ditka or Matt Millen.

[mraynrand]

I assume that's Brohm and not Hasselbeck, but don't see where either was a need pick?

IN 2008, the Packers needed (at least) a backup QB.

[Brandon494]

Also for those not aware Shazier ran a 4.36 40 time. When we play SF again we could have Shazier spy Kap, hes not out running him.

[mraynrand]

Also for those not aware Shazier ran a 4.36 40 time. When we play SF again we could have Shazier spy Kap, hes not out running him.

Draft Blackhawk!

[run pMc]

Matthews was drafting for want!

The drafting for need versus BPA debate cracks me up. Good teams combine both strategies. Consider the absurd example - say you had players rated and every time your selection came up the BPA was a WR - you wouldn't draft 9 WRs - you have your team needs and maybe you pick the position you need who is rated slightly less than the BPA WR because, well because you aren't Mike Ditka or Matt Millen.

I don't know this for a fact, but I get the sense that many GMs rank players in groups of comparable ability (high R2, mid R2, etc.) vs. a pure force ranking (e.g., #38, #39), and if there are two players with comparable ability but one plays at a position of greater need they take that player. A player who drops far enough where they are ranked better than others would be the pick (or you trade down if you really don't need/want them) -- I would assume that's how they ended up with Rodgers and Lacy.

GMs that absolutely love someone at a position of need and trade up for that player (CM3) would logically only do so because they think there's value in doing so. I think that's different from drafting purely on need when you're on the clock because you're actively making a trade to get a specific player who you think will fit vs. letting fate decide who's the best 3-4 OLB left on the board.

Maybe that's a long way of saying that I agree that teams combine both strategies. There's no way TT drafts 9WRs. TT tilted towards need on his picks a bit too much on 2012 (the infamous all-D draft) and he's been rightly roasted for it.

[mraynrand]

I don't know this for a fact, but I get the sense that many GMs rank players in groups of comparable ability (high R2, mid R2, etc.) vs. a pure force ranking (e.g., #38, #39), and if there are two players with comparable ability but one plays at a position of greater need they take that player...

Good post. I think this is true.

Matt Millen picked based on Mike&Mike in the Morning interviews

[pbmax]

The draft boards I have seen (most of them Cowboy boards pictured in the background, but not all) have players listed by a round grade. I am sure the values and scores might differentiate further, but I am not sure those are used on draft day.

[Bretsky]

Agree Hawk/Jones pair needs upgrading. I think if there's a similarly ranked player at another position they might go there instead of ILB. They have Lattimore and Barrington waiting in the wings and I think they'll push for time. If Mosley or Shazier is there they will take a long look at them though.

I don't think anyone -- not even TT himself -- knows what name TT will write on that R1 card. Could be Mosley, Nix, Prior, Shazier, Odell Beckham (a dark horse IMO, he'd at worst be the #4WR and return kicks) among others. It depends on how the draft board falls. TT's gonna go BPA and I'm ok with that. Drafting for need can get teams into trouble.


I would be fine with Beckam round one....he's a sneaky pick. I would throw up on myself if we took Nix. I know everybody keeps noting Shazier as a ILB....which he can play...but the dude can also play OLB...and the dude can rush the passer...........he's the opposite of Nick Perry....he's an ideal 3-4 fit

[smuggler]

He can blitz rrom the inside at the pro level and not be exposed for being underweight. He would also be involved in more plays, theoretically, due to being in the middle of the field. That would be a plus if he actually performs to his first round draft slot.

[Brandon494]

I would be fine with Beckam round one....he's a sneaky pick. I would throw up on myself if we took Nix. I know everybody keeps noting Shazier as a ILB....which he can play...but the dude can also play OLB...and the dude can rush the passer...........he's the opposite of Nick Perry....he's an ideal 3-4 fit

He is too small to play OLB in a 3-4, thats why we would move him to ILB but he would still be a play maker. Peppers and Clay on the outside with Shazier rushing from the inside on zone blitz...I wouldn't mind seeing that.

[pbmax]

I would be fine with Beckam round one....he's a sneaky pick. I would throw up on myself if we took Nix. I know everybody keeps noting Shazier as a ILB....which he can play...but the dude can also play OLB...and the dude can rush the passer...........he's the opposite of Nick Perry....he's an ideal 3-4 fit

Can't set an edge at 234 versus the run game at 234. He would have to run around the Tackle.

[BZnDallas]

If he can cover the Vernon Davis types and the Colin Kaep types then hes definitely worth a look... we have a major hole that those two exploit so that would help a lot... it seems like the TE position has been a thorn in our side for quite some time... maybe he solves that problem...

[mraynrand]

He is too small to play OLB in a 3-4, thats why we would move him to ILB but he would still be a play maker. Peppers and Clay on the outside with Shazier rushing from the inside on zone blitz...I wouldn't mind seeing that.

Shazier has all the measurables - what could possibly go wrong?

[mraynrand]

Can't set an edge at 234 versus the run game at 234. He would have to run around the Tackle.

LT was only 3 pounds more. Shazier just doesn't have the same recklessness (but who does?). Who knows? Maybe Blackhawk will be better inside than outside, but obviously I'm not that impressed from what I saw of him at OSU.

[pbmax]

LT was only 3 pounds more. Shazier just doesn't have the same recklessness (but who does?). Who knows? Maybe Blackhawk will be better inside than outside, but obviously I'm not that impressed from what I saw of him at OSU.

Perhaps, but LT arrived 35 years ago. And the 310 lbs., 6' 5" left tackle was developed to prevent him from doing what he did in the first part of his career.

[mraynrand]

Perhaps, but LT arrived 35 years ago. And the 310 lbs., 6' 5" left tackle was developed to prevent him from doing what he did in the first part of his career.

sure, but free agency and Marshmallow Outhouse were developed to restore balance to the Force.

[run pMc]

I'd put Shazier at ILB and keep the behemoths like Neal and Perry at OLB to set the edge vs. the run or maul the RT on the way to the QB. If I needed a backer to cover a RB or a TE, I'd want someone like Shazier over Neal/Perry though.

LOL Marshmellow Outhouse. Poor guy -- he's like the Star Trek Redshirt of OT's. Glad he got paid to play for Cincy. We'lll see how that works out.

[mraynrand]

LOL Marshmellow Outhouse. Poor guy -- he's like the Star Trek Redshirt of OT's.

Exactly. "Marshamallow, you go check out that howitzer-shaped blue plant thingy with razor thorns over there, and I'll go talk to the hot female alien babe over here" - James Tiberius Rodgers Kirk

[Brandon494]

Shazier has all the measurables - what could possibly go wrong?

As much as I complain about Hawk at least hes no Aaron Curry. Goes from safety pick in the draft to bust in only a matter of years.

http://ultimateseahawksfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/aaroncurry.jpg

[mraynrand]

As much as I complain about Hawk at least hes no Aaron Curry. Goes from safety pick in the draft to bust in only a matter of years.

Good point. It could be much much worse. I need to lay off hawk bashing a little. After all, I'm the guy who always says if he were drafted in the 3rd round he'd have been considered "great value." He's a very solid but not spectacular starter. Obviously if the Packers pick Blackhawk, I hope his ceiling is higher.

[Guiness]

As much as I complain about Hawk at least hes no *insert one of numerous top of 1st round busts here*. Goes from safety pick in the draft to bust in only a matter of years.


Did someone say my name?
http://www.ourhonordefend.com/wp-content/uploads/vernon_gholston.jpg

Sure, Hawk didn't turn out to be the perenial pro-bowler and HOF candidate we all hoped for, there have been much worst results among LBs at the top of the draft. Rolando McClain deserves an honorable mention...