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No one had started one up yet as far as I can tell so WTF. I've got a couple minutes. We're 4 days away so not much time to assign picks to people so it's a FFA this year. Lets just start with saying trades are off the table.
Scene: Radio City Music Hall
:Godell takes the podium amidst the normal amount of booing for the incredible job he's been doing:
With the first overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Huston Texans select - Jadaveon Clowney, defensive end, South Carolina.
The St Louis Rams are on the clock...
smuggler
05-05-2014, 12:46 AM
Rams can't trade? They pick Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson.
HarveyWallbangers
05-05-2014, 01:00 AM
Jacksonville selects LB Khalil Mack.
BZnDallas
05-05-2014, 07:08 AM
No. 4 Cleveland selects QB Johnny "Football" Manziel Texas A&M
Guiness
05-05-2014, 08:54 AM
Jacksonville selects LB Khalil Mack.
IMO Jax has the best seat in the house. Top 3 prospects are all great, they just have to sit in this spot and see who falls to them. I also think they are the most likely to get good offers when other teams see who is left at this point. I think the #11 pick is also coveted, that first slot below the line in the sand that drops the salary of the 5th year option significantly.
No. 4 Cleveland selects QB Johnny "Football" Manziel Texas A&M
And the world rolls their eyes and chuckles into their hands.
McKenzie figures everybody else must've blinked and missed something, sprints to the podium and selects Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn.
Joemailman
05-05-2014, 12:00 PM
So we have:
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
With the 6th Pick the Atlanta Falcons select:
Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A & M
Tampa Bay is on the clock.
woodbuck27
05-05-2014, 12:18 PM
With the 6th Pick of the 2014 NFL Draft:
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are very happy to select :
WR: Mike Evans Texas A&M.
pbmax
05-05-2014, 12:27 PM
With the 8th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft:
The Minnesota Vikings select Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A & M
7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M
8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh
Spielman rumors of defensive pick are a double fake. He leaked to truth to hide the truth.
Joemailman
05-05-2014, 12:30 PM
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M (BZnDallas)
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
Buffalo is on the clock...
bobblehead
05-05-2014, 12:43 PM
Bills need help all over, but the chance to land a franchise LT at the 9th pick is too hard to resist:
Taylor Lewan
Fritz
05-05-2014, 01:26 PM
Lions in "win now" mode, and since they frantically tried to trade up, but didn't get Watkins or Evans, they pick Anthony Barr, DE.
Lions in "win now" mode, and since they frantically tried to trade up, but didn't get Watkins or Evans, they pick Anthony Barr, DE.
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M (BZnDallas)
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
9. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
With the Titans deciding not to pick up the 5th year on Locker, they instead draft for the future by selecing Blake Bortels - QB - UCF
The NY Giants are on the clock.
denverYooper
05-05-2014, 09:18 PM
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M (BZnDallas)
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
9. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
With the Titans deciding not to pick up the 5th year on Locker, they instead draft for the future by selecing Blake Bortels - QB - UCF
The NY Giants are on the clock.
The Giants need some more OL to help Eli settle down. They'll take Zack Martin.
pbmax
05-05-2014, 09:32 PM
Rams on the clock for Pick #12. They went big on offense with their first selection and the Big Three tackles are gone. They will give Fisher someone to help his D's porous backend.
With the 12th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Cleveland/Los Angeles/Anaheim/St. Louis Rams select:
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama
Da Bears are on the clock.
woodbuck27
05-05-2014, 09:58 PM
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M (BZnDallas)
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
9. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - Central Florida
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama
The Chicago Bears are on the clock .... and they pick !??
digitaldean
05-05-2014, 10:03 PM
I think the Bears will take CJ Mosley, LB, Alabama. Steelers are on the clock.
Joemailman
05-05-2014, 10:13 PM
The Pittsburgh Steelers select Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan St.
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M (BZnDallas)
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
9. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - Central Florida
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosley - LB - Alabama
15. Pittsburgh - Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan St.
The Dallas Cowboys are on the clock.
woodbuck27
05-05-2014, 10:32 PM
With DE Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB Aaron Donald and DT Anthony Barr off the board and with the 16th pick overall the Dallas Cowboys pick their BPA:
Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville
smuggler
05-05-2014, 10:35 PM
Can we vote on the Packers pick when it comes up?
woodbuck27
05-05-2014, 10:36 PM
1. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
2. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
4. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A & M (BZnDallas)
5. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
7. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
9. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - Central Florida
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville
and the Baltimore Ravens are now on the clock.
woodbuck27
05-05-2014, 10:37 PM
Can we vote on the Packers pick when it comes up?
I think that's a great idea. I second the motion.
smuggler
05-05-2014, 11:41 PM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami Dolphins -
I am going to tally votes for the 21st overall pick. You have a vote if you have made a pick for another team in the thread. Do NOT cast a vote until Green Bay is on the clock.
BALLOTS:
Zool
smuggler
HarveyWallbangers
BZnDallas
Guinness
Joemailman
woodbuck27
pbmax
bobblehead
Fritz
denverYooper
digitaldean
Brandon494
woodbuck27
05-05-2014, 11:55 PM
Someone new please make a pick....for the NY Jets.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 12:23 AM
Jets pick TE Eric Ebron
Dolphins now on the clock.....
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 12:40 AM
Jets pick TE Eric Ebron
Dolphins now on the clock.....
Nice pick.
HarveyWallbangers
05-06-2014, 01:14 AM
Dolphins are tough. Their needs and BPA don't match up well here. I think they go BPA and select CB Justin Gilbert.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 04:39 AM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
20. Arizona - Some other member to be eligible to vote for the Packers pick.
With Arizona's needs this is a bit of a tough pick. Good luck to whomever has the stuff to make it just prior to the Green Bay ballot pick.
21. Green Bay - By a vote and the following members are so far eligible to cast a vote with room for one more member voter contributing the Arizona pick:
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 04:53 AM
Hold on this (see post NO.29 and Packerrats member Patler) or anyone not yet selecting for a team.:
Guiness your on Packerrats early, (5:50 EST).
If no one else wants to make a pick why not you do so ....say in the next 30 minutes or so.
Be aware that at this time we have "only 13 members " eligible to cast a ballot.
Personally ... I'm wary of anything NO. 13.
It could be worse and Friday. :-)
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 04:57 AM
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members currently on Packerrats @ 6 AM EST:
woodbuck27, Patler and Guiness+
Good morning Patler: :idea:
Why don't you pick for Arizona and make yourself eligible for the Packers ballot vote pick @ NO. 21.
Patler
05-06-2014, 05:25 AM
Good morning Patler: :idea:
Why don't you pick for Arizona and make yourself eligible for the Packers ballot vote pick @ NO. 21.
Good morning Woodbuck! To be honest, I don't follow the build-up to the draft enough to make a decent pick. I more enjoy waiting until it is done, then studying the players and where they actually went in the draft. I don't even consider much about who I would like the Packers to draft. I just enjoy studying the guys they actually do get.
RashanGary
05-06-2014, 06:17 AM
arizona takes teddy bridgewater
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 06:17 AM
Good morning Woodbuck! To be honest, I don't follow the build-up to the draft enough to make a decent pick. I more enjoy waiting until it is done, then studying the players and where they actually went in the draft. I don't even consider much about who I would like the Packers to draft. I just enjoy studying the guys they actually do get.
OK ... got yaa.
I'm simply hoping that some other member gets involved in this process and picks for Arizona.
It's the Irish in me. I want to have "14 members" eligible to cast a ballot for pick NO. 21.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 06:20 AM
arizona takes teddy bridgewater
They went BPA and they look good now with Carson Palmer who's revitalized with that franchise but that's a nice pick JH for the Cardinals future.
Thank You JH :clap: and now we have our 14 members eligible to cast a vote for pick NO. 21.
Good luck all. I think it comes down to two prospects. We'll soon see.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 06:33 AM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville
and NOW the Green Bay Packers are on the clock and we need a vote from 14 members:
Zool
smuggler
HarveyWallbangers
BZnDallas
Guinness
Joemailman
woodbuck27 ...My vote is for Ryan Shazier.
pbmax
bobblehead
Fritz
denverYooper
digitaldean
Brandon494
Justin Harrell
Let the voting continue.
This one is a close decision for me. I'm very pleased to vote for Ryan Shazier- LBer- Ohio State.
Bretsky
05-06-2014, 07:03 AM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville
and NOW the Green Bay Packers are on the clock and we need a vote from 14 members:
Zool
smuggler
HarveyWallbangers
BZnDallas
Guinness
Joemailman
woodbuck27 ...My vote is for Ryan Shazier.
pbmax
bobblehead
Fritz
denverYooper
digitaldean
Brandon494
Justin Harrell
Let the voting continue.
This one is a close decision for me. I'm very pleased to vote for Ryan Shazier- LBer- Ohio State.
I was listening to NFL network the other day and some AZ fans were touting Ryan Shazier and the fact that they are in win now mode. Picking Shazier there would have made this poll very interesting. I kind of think Bridgewater is headed to round two or late round one
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 07:21 AM
I was listening to NFL network the other day and some AZ fans were touting Ryan Shazier and the fact that they are in win now mode. Picking Shazier there would have made this poll very interesting. I kind of think Bridgewater is headed to round two or late round one
Hi B.:
Carson Palmer is doing very well in Arizona and do you select a QB in Round One to sit on the bench when you want your team to take a step forward? I say no ! So the Arizona Cardinals are not likely to go to QB and pick No. 20.
Arizona has priority needs at pass rush and lots will be available there, WR and FS.
I've been reading stuff by Arizona fans as well and it's hard to say which direction the team may go in in Round One. I say pass rush or WR and BPA.
Their not exactly pleased with their TE situation and that may bring Jace Amaro - Texas Tech or Austin Seferian-Jenkins - Washington into play.
The Card's might even go CB and say an eligible mid first Rd. candidate in CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State.
Pass Rush: Monster DE Stephon Tuitt - Notre Dame or DE's Demarcus Lawrence - Boise St. .
In reality it may very well be the case that Ryan Shazier (and a solid grade for him by a team drafting ahead of us) is off the board by the time TT and the Green Bay Packers are on the clock for Pick NO. 21.
If I was to bet I'd lean on that LBer Ryan Shazier is gone by the Packers NO. 21 pick.
I wonder what TT would do if Hasean "Ha Ha" Clinton Dix falls all the way to us? Looking at his grade at 5.9 and the latest mocks he sure looks like a strong prospect to be there for TT to consider. I'm not all that high on him and have liked Calvin Pryor better for months.
I hope that at least two QB's come off the Draft Board before we have to decide on our first round pick. If that doesn't happen the chances of TT trading down is advanced and as prospects with grades above 6.0 come off the board.
Incidently there are 28 prospects with a Grade of 6.0 or higher.
Excluding QB's there are 21 prospects with a Grade of 6.1 or higher.
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 07:29 AM
I vote for Blackhawk
smuggler
05-06-2014, 08:49 AM
With the way it panned out, it's not really much of a vote. I would take Shazier. I would vote trade down if I could. Haha!
pbmax
05-06-2014, 09:00 AM
Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA
Isn't a Center now but would help if Lang has to move inside. Unlikely move by Ted as its a Guard, but if the draft falls this way and he can't bail out, take the best player.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 09:03 AM
I was listening to NFL network the other day and some AZ fans were touting Ryan Shazier and the fact that they are in win now mode. Picking Shazier there would have made this poll very interesting. I kind of think Bridgewater is headed to round two or late round one
I just found this B.:
http://fansided.com/2014/05/01/2014-nfl-mock-draft-7-round-arizona-cardinals-mock-draft/#!Ju6W1
" Here is how the seven-round mock draft for the Arizona Cardinals played out:
1.Ryan Shazier, outside linebacker, Ohio State
2.Deone Bucannon, safety, Washington State
3.Tom Savage, quarterback, Pittsburgh
4.Seantrel Henderson, offensive tackle, Miami
5.Khairi Fortt, inside linebacker, California
6.Colt Lyerla, tight end, Oregon "
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 09:07 AM
Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA
Isn't a Center now but would help if Lang has to move inside. Unlikely move by Ted as its a Guard, but if the draft falls this way and he can't bail out, take the best player.
There will be better players (and NOT QB's) on the board in terms of grade pbmax. I've Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA with a grade of 5.9.
Otherwise sure and I don't mean to detract from your choice.
Good luck with progress and this interesting thread. Mae and I need to go for some supplies.
Have a great day Packerrats.
pbmax
05-06-2014, 09:10 AM
arizona takes teddy bridgewater
I kinda like this pick, but do you think bomb-throwing Arians wants the hyper accurate short to medium thrower?
pbmax
05-06-2014, 09:13 AM
There will be better players (and NOT QB's) on the board in terms of grade pbmax. I've Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA with a grade of 5.9.
Otherwise sure and I don't mean to detract from your choice.
Good luck with progress and this interesting thread. Mae and I need to go for some supplies.
Have a great day Packerrats.
CBS has him ranked at 28 and above him the players left in this scenario are CBs and D lineman. I don't see Ted going in that direction unless something special falls. Possibly a CB, though he has yet to do it.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 09:17 AM
With the way it panned out, it's not really much of a vote. I would take Shazier. I would vote trade down if I could. Haha!
Yup.
LB Ryan Shazier's Grade (6.3) makes him the obvious choice as this thread played out.
In reality:
I'd be delighted to get him or and again it won't happen...WR Brandin Cooks...his size and grade a wee bit low for TT's pick at NO. 21. Ahh wait:
TT's doing his own grading.
RashanGary
05-06-2014, 10:09 AM
I'm going to vote Brandin Cooks because I think he's one of the best players in this whole draft. He's a 21 year old Steve Smith.
BZnDallas
05-06-2014, 10:15 AM
I agree with Smug! Gotta take Shazier here, would prefer to trade down and go with jimmy ward but with the rules of our game i vote Ryan Shazier LB OSU
denverYooper
05-06-2014, 10:27 AM
What the hell, let's take Jimmie Ward.
Thompson doesn't take small guys in R1 and never drafts DBs under 5'11". This year he does.
Ward
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 11:03 AM
Ryan Shaizer obviously, anyone selecting an offensive player needs to be slapped in the face.
Fritz
05-06-2014, 11:48 AM
Brandin Cooks.
Okay, dude, you can try to slap me now.
The more I read about Shazier, the less impressed I am. He seems like a slightly uggraded version of a healthy Brad Jones. Meh.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 12:05 PM
Lets see we were #3 in total offense last season and #25 on defense, lets take a WR with our 1st pick in a draft loaded with WRs.
http://www.picturesnew.com/media/images/genius.jpeg
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 12:10 PM
Ryan Shaizer obviously, anyone selecting an offensive player needs to be slapped in the face.
It depends on whether someone great falls to 21. TT has taken a lot of top defensive picks the past two years. If you can get a game changer you gotta take 'em. I don't see TT standing pat with the first two picks. I bet he moves up that #2 or trades down from #1 (or both) to capture two very good players, one defense, one offense, in the first two rounds.
vince
05-06-2014, 12:12 PM
Lets see we were #3 in total offense last season and #25 on defense, lets take a WR with our 1st pick in a draft loaded with WRs.
http://www.picturesnew.com/media/images/genius.jpeg
The overwhelming response by fans when Thompson drafted Rodgers in teh first. We see how that turned out.
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 12:14 PM
Lets see we were #3 in total offense last season and #25 on defense, lets take a WR with our 1st pick in a draft loaded with WRs.
you don't (generally) draft for this year, you draft for 1-2 years from now. Maybe you're lucky (Lacy) to get one great starter as a rookie and then maybe unlucky (Bahktiari, Hyde) to get more than one decent starter due to injury. A lot of Rookies (D. Jones) aren't quite ready to play.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 12:27 PM
It depends on whether someone great falls to 21. TT has taken a lot of top defensive picks the past two years. If you can get a game changer you gotta take 'em. I don't see TT standing pat with the first two picks. I bet he moves up that #2 or trades down from #1 (or both) to capture two very good players, one defense, one offense, in the first two rounds.
No one great on offense is going to drop to us at #21. You guys comparing Brandin Cooks like hes the next Steve Smith but hes the next Tavon Austin. Fast, small receiver who with struggle with press man coverage in the NFL. BTW we have a guy named Randall Cobb, why the hell do we need Cooks? We just going to load this team with WRs under 6 feet? We need a WR who will help us in the red zone, not another small target. We were ranked 26th in the league in red-zone touchdown conversions last season. Cooks isn't going to help us improve there and hes not even a good return man so we going to use our 1st pick on a #3 WR? Go defense round 1 and let TT work his day two magic picking a WR (Jennings, Nelson, Cobb).
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 12:34 PM
The overwhelming response by fans when Thompson drafted Rodgers in the first. We see how that turned out.
Apples and oranges....I haven't heard Nelson or Cobb flirting with retirement as of late. Also don't remember anyone ever discussing Cooks being the #1 overall pick. I for one loved the pick at the time because Farve was 35 years old so it made common sense for us to start looking for a replacement. Where is the common sense in taking a WR with our 1st pick in a draft loaded with WR when we have a GM whos a stud at finding talent at WR in the later rounds.
smuggler
05-06-2014, 12:46 PM
Sitton/Lang/Su'a-Filo would be an amazing interior.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 12:51 PM
you don't (generally) draft for this year, you draft for 1-2 years from now. Maybe you're lucky (Lacy) to get one great starter as a rookie and then maybe unlucky (Bahktiari, Hyde) to get more than one decent starter due to injury. A lot of Rookies (D. Jones) aren't quite ready to play.
I understand that but do you think Hawk, Brad Jones, or any of the pieces of shit we have at safety are going to be better then Nelson and Cobb in 1-2 years from now? If so by all means go ahead and take a WR with the 1st pick. Rookie LBs can actually make impact their first season, out of the last 14 years the defensive rookie of the year has been a LB 11 times.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 01:01 PM
Xavier Su'a Filo is ok but hes not the BPA and he fits a power scheme team more then a zone which we run.
smuggler
05-06-2014, 01:01 PM
^ that may be true, but if new rules come down the pipe, it might be a good idea to be ready for a switch back to the Power Blocking system.
I think we should take votes for anyone who contributes in the thread, is that okay?
Zool - WARD
smuggler - SHAZIER
HarveyWallbangers -
BZnDallas - SHAZIER
Guinness -
Joemailman -
woodbuck27 - SHAZIER
pbmax - SU'A-FILO
bobblehead -
Fritz - COOKS
denverYooper - WARD
digitaldean -
Brandon494 - SHAZIER
Justin Harrell - COOKS
Bretsky -
mraynrand - SHAZIER
Patler -
****Anybody who wants to put in a vote, please do so before 7PM CENTRAL TIME.****
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 01:02 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000125585/Colin-Kaepernick-highlights
For you guys wanting to go offense with the 1st pick.
Guiness
05-06-2014, 01:54 PM
Carr! *ducks* *looks at tomatoes* Hey, there was no call for that!
Looking at some big boards, I see Dennard, Roby and Fuller, Ware, Ealy, Nix and Jernigan, Shazier, Marqise Lee and Cooks. Su'a. And Carr.
edit: Dennard is gone, he was my first choice.
I vote for Louis Nix III, DT, Fighting Irish. He fills a need, Raji is on a 1yr contract and Pickett is unsigned. More importantly to TT, he would quite possibly be rated the BPA is the board fell this way.
We should have a second vote to see who thinks TT will draft someone that wasn't already picked, and that no one voted for. I'd take that option!
Smidgeon
05-06-2014, 01:55 PM
Brandin Cooks.
Okay, dude, you can try to slap me now.
The more I read about Shazier, the less impressed I am. He seems like a slightly uggraded version of a healthy Brad Jones. Meh.
I didn't contribute to the mock draft, so I don't get a vote, but I'm with Fritz on this one. At least on the Shazier part. I'd want Ward instead of Cooks.
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 02:03 PM
I understand that but do you think Hawk, Brad Jones, or any of the pieces of shit we have at safety are going to be better then Nelson and Cobb in 1-2 years from now? If so by all means go ahead and take a WR with the 1st pick. Rookie LBs can actually make impact their first season, out of the last 14 years the defensive rookie of the year has been a LB 11 times.
They might be able to get a good safety in the third; I really don't see a guy like Collins in the first, and it seems that's the guy they need. I think Richardson, Hyde, Hayward and Burnett can all play in the SS role if needed, but not so much at FS (although I'm certain the coaches like Burnett there). I like Shazier only because he may have the speed to fill up that dead zone between the line and the safeties in coverage of TEs and RBs. He will not be an every down LB. But, like I say, they may nab him and may be able to trade down to do it, then trade up again to get a WR they like near the top third of the 2nd.
I pretty much agree with you that the game changer WR or TE (Ebron) won't be there at 21. But if somehow he is, take him.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 02:07 PM
I would love to know what you guys have been reading about Shazier for you to compare him to Brad Jones.
pbmax
05-06-2014, 02:11 PM
I would love to know what you guys have been reading about Shazier for you to compare him to Brad Jones.
They are just angry with nothing else to do. I am concerned with him being light in the pants. He plays like he is 222 in some of those highlights, not like Kuechly at 240.
Would love the have the athleticism, not sure he can play first down right now.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 02:17 PM
They might be able to get a good safety in the third; I really don't see a guy like Collins in the first, and it seems that's the guy they need. I think Richardson, Hyde, Hayward and Burnett can all play in the SS role if needed, but not so much at FS (although I'm certain the coaches like Burnett there). I like Shazier only because he may have the speed to fill up that dead zone between the line and the safeties in coverage of TEs and RBs. He will not be an every down LB. But, like I say, they may nab him and may be able to trade down to do it, then trade up again to get a WR they like near the top third of the 2nd.
I pretty much agree with you that the game changer WR or TE (Ebron) won't be there at 21. But if somehow he is, take him.
I pray we take a safety within the first two rounds and still hoping Pryor somehow drops to us, he would be my first choice then Shazier. In a perfect world we would take Pryor at #21 and then make a trade with the Pats trading our 2nd round and both 3rd round picks for their 1st and a 4th round pick then taking Shazier with that pick. Hey it could happen, last two times we traded with the Pats in the draft we ended up with Greg Jennings and Clay Matthews. :-) With this draft being so deep though I'm not sure if that would be our best move but I sure would like our defense.
Would finally give Capers some play makers to work since the Super Bowl adding Peppers, Pryor and Shazier to last years defense....Kap is not out running this group.
CB Sheilds S Burnett S Pryor CB Williams
LB Peppers LB Hawk LB Shazier LB Clay
DL Jones DL Raji DL Daniels
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 02:30 PM
They are just angry with nothing else to do. I am concerned with him being light in the pants. He plays like he is 222 in some of those highlights, not like Kuechly at 240.
Would love the have the athleticism, not sure he can play first down right now.
The weight would concern me if he didn't run a 4.3 at 237 pounds at his pro day. Whos knows if he'll be able to keep the weight up during the season but I'm willing to bet with a NFL weight training program he should have no problem, Clay Matthews was 240 when we drafted him and hes at 255 now. Crazy thing is both players were under 200 pounds their freshman year in college, Clay at 180 and Shazier at 190....I need to get to the gym.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2014/03/08/osufb-pro-day-3-8-art0-gvqref9n-1ohio-st-pro-day-football-jpeg-0e113-jpg.jpg
Guiness
05-06-2014, 02:46 PM
They are just angry with nothing else to do. I am concerned with him being light in the pants. He plays like he is 222 in some of those highlights, not like Kuechly at 240.
Would love the have the athleticism, not sure he can play first down right now.
Why do you compare him to Kuechly? He doesn't project to ILB at all, does he? I thought he was seen only as an OLB. Kuechly is pretty long and lean for an ILB though.
His unofficial 40 time is startling. If it's being taken seriously it vaults him up the draft boards to be sure. I think it would've make him the fastest LB by a pretty good margin, Mack ran a 4.59.
Patler
05-06-2014, 02:49 PM
In a perfect world we would take Pryor at #21 and then make a trade with the Pats trading our 2nd round and both 3rd round picks for their 1st and a 4th round pick then taking Shazier with that pick. Hey it could happen, last two times we traded with the Pats in the draft we ended up with Greg Jennings and Clay Matthews. :-)
It couldn't happen quite that way. The Packers only have 1 third round pick to trade. The comp pick can't be traded. The best they could offer is their 2nd (#53), 3rd (#85) and 4th (#121). It might take more than that to get back into the 1st,
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 02:53 PM
It couldn't happen quite that way. The Packers only have 1 third round pick to trade. The comp pick can't be traded. The best they could offer is their 2nd (#53), 3rd (#85) and 4th (#121). It might take more than that to get back into the 1st,
True, I forgot you can't trade comp picks, I was just using the Clay trade as an example. Being that the Clay trade was the 21st pick and this year they have the 29th pick trading I doubt we would have to give up as much, your offer makes more sense but we would get a 5th or 6th round pick back in return instead of a 4th.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 02:59 PM
Why do you compare him to Kuechly? He doesn't project to ILB at all, does he? I thought he was seen only as an OLB. Kuechly is pretty long and lean for an ILB though.
His unofficial 40 time is startling. If it's being taken seriously it vaults him up the draft boards to be sure. I think it would've make him the fastest LB by a pretty good margin, Mack ran a 4.59.
Shazier wouldn't play OLB for us, hes projected to play OLB in a 4-3 and ILB in a 3-4. He was comparing him to Kueckly because they have similar weight at their combines. I've also heard some comparisons to Navorro Bowman who played OLB at Penn St before moving inside in the SF's 3-4 defense. Who knows if he'll be close to either one of those players but I like his game and I think hes only going to get better.
Patler
05-06-2014, 03:11 PM
True, I forgot you can't trade comp picks, I was just using the Clay trade as an example. Being that the Clay trade was the 21st pick and this year they have the 29th pick trading I doubt we would have to give up as much, your offer makes more sense but we would get a 5th or 6th round pick back in return instead of a 4th.
Matthews was #26. To get him they gave up #41, #73 & #83 (from the Jets for Favre) and I think got a 5th back.
This year, having, at best #53, #85 and #121 doesn't get them back into the 1st round at all, I don't think.
That extra third for Favre was the key for pulling off that trade.
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 03:14 PM
God damnit Patler can a brotha dream!!!!
http://www.ynaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/black-man-sleeping-on-couch1.jpg
You are right though it would be hard to move back into the 1st and with the draft being so deep I'd rather trade down to be honest.
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 03:19 PM
I would love to know what you guys have been reading about Shazier for you to compare him to Brad Jones.
Shazier is much better than Brad Jones. See, I compared them! :)
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 03:25 PM
God damnit Patler can a brotha dream!!!!
http://www.ynaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/black-man-sleeping-on-couch1.jpg
You are right though it would be hard to move back into the 1st and with the draft being so deep I'd rather trade down to be honest.
That picture looks like Kaepernick dreaming of playing the Packers.
But you can dream. I doubt you get Prior, but it might be possible to trade down, get Shazier, then trade up again and get a WR near the top of the second round. Then use the compensatory third round pick on a FS.
Patler
05-06-2014, 03:27 PM
God damnit Patler can a brotha dream!!!!
:lol: What they might be able to do is use their second and third (with or without another pick, depending) to get back in very early in the 2nd. Instead of getting #29, getting something between there and #40.
pbmax
05-06-2014, 03:53 PM
Why do you compare him to Kuechly? He doesn't project to ILB at all, does he? I thought he was seen only as an OLB. Kuechly is pretty long and lean for an ILB though.
His unofficial 40 time is startling. If it's being taken seriously it vaults him up the draft boards to be sure. I think it would've make him the fastest LB by a pretty good margin, Mack ran a 4.59.
Previously it was mentioned that at a new higher weight, Shazier was within 10 pounds of Kuechly and thus could survive at ILB.
pbmax
05-06-2014, 03:57 PM
The weight would concern me if he didn't run a 4.3 at 237 pounds at his pro day. Whos knows if he'll be able to keep the weight up during the season but I'm willing to bet with a NFL weight training program he should have no problem, Clay Matthews was 240 when we drafted him and hes at 255 now. Crazy thing is both players were under 200 pounds their freshman year in college, Clay at 180 and Shazier at 190....I need to get to the gym.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2014/03/08/osufb-pro-day-3-8-art0-gvqref9n-1ohio-st-pro-day-football-jpeg-0e113-jpg.jpg
On many of his tackles in those videos, he got glancing blows and takedowns. Just a few head-on collisions that stopped a runner. Combine that with a sideways avoidance of some Guards, I am a bit concerned about him in the run game. Not concerned about pursuit.
Joemailman
05-06-2014, 03:58 PM
^ that may be true, but if new rules come down the pipe, it might be a good idea to be ready for a switch back to the Power Blocking system.
I think we should take votes for anyone who contributes in the thread, is that okay?
Zool - WARD
smuggler - SHAZIER
HarveyWallbangers -
BZnDallas - SHAZIER
Guinness -
Joemailman -
woodbuck27 - SHAZIER
pbmax - SU'A-FILO
bobblehead -
Fritz - COOKS
denverYooper - WARD
digitaldean -
Brandon494 - SHAZIER
Justin Harrell - COOKS
Bretsky -
mraynrand - SHAZIER
Patler -
****Anybody who wants to put in a vote, please do so before 7PM CENTRAL TIME.****
Shazier
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 04:04 PM
On many of his tackles in those videos, he got glancing blows and takedowns. Just a few head-on collisions that stopped a runner. Combine that with a sideways avoidance of some Guards, I am a bit concerned about him in the run game. Not concerned about pursuit.going
Good comment. That worries me too. But still, it would be nice to have a ILB who could stay with RBs and TEs. I hear the NFL is going to make the 'forward pass' a bigger part of the game and it might be important to have an ILB who can defend the pass.
Guiness
05-06-2014, 04:12 PM
Previously it was mentioned that at a new higher weight, Shazier was within 10 pounds of Kuechly and thus could survive at ILB.
Within 10lbs, and 2" shorter so pretty similar stoutness. Mosley is 6'2", and most of the other ILB prospects seem to be around that height. I always think of ILBs as generally being a bit shorter, but I guess not.
pbmax
05-06-2014, 04:31 PM
Within 10lbs, and 2" shorter so pretty similar stoutness. Mosley is 6'2", and most of the other ILB prospects seem to be around that height. I always think of ILBs as generally being a bit shorter, but I guess not.
I agree, he looks like he could survive. But that is not how he plays. I know nothing about his scheme at Ohio State, so that could explain some of it.
The other question is this: will he, like Jones does, have to develop the ability to diagnose running plays from inside? Jones reacts slow to run plays developing and then can take some bad gaps. Shazier was not strictly a ILB at OSU, what kind of learning curve will he have?
Guiness
05-06-2014, 04:50 PM
I agree, he looks like he could survive. But that is not how he plays. I know nothing about his scheme at Ohio State, so that could explain some of it.
The other question is this: will he, like Jones does, have to develop the ability to diagnose running plays from inside? Jones reacts slow to run plays developing and then can take some bad gaps. Shazier was not strictly a ILB at OSU, what kind of learning curve will he have?
I'm still looking at that 4.36 40 time. Think scouts are taking that seriously at all? Wouldn't that be the fastest LB time in a decade or so? How 'fast' is that track he was running on? Was he wearing P.F. Flyers?
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 04:54 PM
On many of his tackles in those videos, he got glancing blows and takedowns. Just a few head-on collisions that stopped a runner. Combine that with a sideways avoidance of some Guards, I am a bit concerned about him in the run game. Not concerned about pursuit.
Damn that young man looks impressive. How dedicated he must have been to the weight room?
This man will help our "D". There's a bonus.
With a pick of Ryan Shazier the Green Bay Packer "back and white" female fan base will increase generating higher merchandizing profit.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 04:56 PM
CBS has him ranked at 28 and above him the players left in this scenario are CBs and D lineman. I don't see Ted going in that direction unless something special falls. Possibly a CB, though he has yet to do it.
Ted Thompson loves picking DL. He's going to hit it big one year.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 05:02 PM
No one great on offense is going to drop to us at #21. You guys comparing Brandin Cooks like hes the next Steve Smith but hes the next Tavon Austin. Fast, small receiver who with struggle with press man coverage in the NFL. BTW we have a guy named Randall Cobb, why the hell do we need Cooks? We just going to load this team with WRs under 6 feet? We need a WR who will help us in the red zone, not another small target. We were ranked 26th in the league in red-zone touchdown conversions last season. Cooks isn't going to help us improve there and hes not even a good return man so we going to use our 1st pick on a #3 WR? Go defense round 1 and let TT work his day two magic picking a WR (Jennings, Nelson, Cobb).
After looking at WR Brandin Cooks more carefully :
A) I believe your correct
B) TT won't be considering him anyway.
Guiness
05-06-2014, 05:04 PM
Ted Thompson loves picking DL. He's going to hit it big one year.
See my vote for Nix!
pbmax
05-06-2014, 05:15 PM
Ted Thompson loves picking DL. He's going to hit it big one year.
He might have to depending on Pickett's status and the future of Raji, but I am not sure its happening in the first round.
pbmax
05-06-2014, 05:16 PM
I'm still looking at that 4.36 40 time. Think scouts are taking that seriously at all? Wouldn't that be the fastest LB time in a decade or so? How 'fast' is that track he was running on? Was he wearing P.F. Flyers?
Not sure. But at ILB, more worried about the splits he had in that 40. If he gets a good number at 10 yards, the top end isn't as important.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 05:21 PM
Carr! *ducks* *looks at tomatoes* Hey, there was no call for that!
Looking at some big boards, I see Dennard, Roby and Fuller, Ware, Ealy, Nix and Jernigan, Shazier, Marqise Lee and Cooks. Su'a. And Carr.
edit: Dennard is gone, he was my first choice.
I vote for Louis Nix III, DT, Fighting Irish. He fills a need, Raji is on a 1yr contract and Pickett is unsigned. More importantly to TT, he would quite possibly be rated the BPA is the board fell this way.
We should have a second vote to see who thinks TT will draft someone that wasn't already picked, and that no one voted for. I'd take that option!
Maybe TT keeps banging on the same door and your pick of NT Louis Nix III is realistic in terms of his very possible availability at Pick NO. 21.
There is this:
His grade is 5.9 and according to my analysis and TT and BPA. If that's compatible with TT's grade for Nix and all other things in terms of prospects are equal. That grade of 5.9 eliminates Louis Nix III from consideration at Pick NO. 21.
Now last year TT worked out a trade down with of all teams the San Fran 49ers and maybe the same thing works out this season as the 49ers position better for a WR and TT trades down to the San Fran NO. 30 and gains a pick.
If he does this will he have a shot at Louis Nix III?
My analysis says that's a weak chance.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 05:34 PM
The overwhelming response by fans when Thompson drafted Rodgers in teh first. We see how that turned out.
I compare the pick of a falling Aaron Rodgers to any astute family that restores their cupboard when the cupboard is rapidly growing bare.
An act of Genius.
No ...rather a prudent move to grab the BPA. Because of the reality that Aaron Rodgers brought to the table in terms of his patience and work ethic.
Ted Thompson's picking him has turned into his most glowing move as Green Bay Packer GM.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 05:54 PM
See my vote for Nix!
" Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
that may be true, but if new rules come down the pipe, it might be a good idea to be ready for a switch back to the Power Blocking system.
I think we should take votes for anyone who contributes in the thread, is that okay?
Zool - WARD
smuggler - SHAZIER
HarveyWallbangers -
BZnDallas - SHAZIER
Guinness - Louis Nix III
Joemailman - SHAZIER
woodbuck27 - SHAZIER
pbmax - SU'A-FILO
bobblehead -
Fritz - COOKS
denverYooper - WARD
digitaldean -
Brandon494 - SHAZIER
Justin Harrell - COOKS
Bretsky -
mraynrand - SHAZIER
Patler -
SHAZIER has six (6) votes.
COOKS has two (2) votes
WARD has two (2) votes.
NIX has one (1) vote.
Four and possibly five members remain to cast a vote:
HarveyWallbangers -
bobblehead -
digitaldean -
Bretsky -
Patler Note: He may not desire to vote ... see his post #30 this thread.
Guiness
05-06-2014, 06:11 PM
I compare the pick of a falling Aaron Rodgers to any astute family that restores their cupboard when the cupboard is rapidly growing bare.
An act of Genius.
No ...rather a prudent move to grab the BPA. Because of the reality that Aaron Rodgers brought to the table in terms of his patience and work ethic.
Ted Thompson's picking him has turned into his most glowing move as Green Bay Packer GM.
Dunno that it's as simple as some pie in the sky grade (assigned by who? NFL.com? Mel Kipper?). As someone else pointed out, Rodgers was a rather unique case - a player talked about as a potential #1 overall sitting there 20 picks later. TT took that bait again a few years later with Brohm a few years later. The Jets did it last year with Smith, although I'm not sure he was ever seriously considered a candidate for #1 overall.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 06:13 PM
Good Luck with this:
It's time for the Boston Bruins to get a taste of the Bell Center and the Las Habitants...The Montreal Canadiens.
GO HABS GO !
Brandon494
05-06-2014, 06:19 PM
Not a hockey fan but I will be rooting for Montreal for obvious reasons.
HarveyWallbangers
05-06-2014, 06:35 PM
Shazier or Ward? Shazier. I don't even have XFO as the top available OG. I have Bitonio higher.
Bretsky
05-06-2014, 06:38 PM
I would love to know what you guys have been reading about Shazier for you to compare him to Brad Jones.
DITTO DITTO DITTO
I hate to remind you guys..........but the 3rd rated ILB on almost any ratings you go to is..............DRUMROLL
Chris Borland...........
Bretsky
05-06-2014, 06:44 PM
Shazier here is a no brainer..........or trade back and maybe pick up Ward in the 30s.
I'd grab Shazier.....and if not I think the next BPA is a WR
smuggler
05-06-2014, 07:16 PM
Packers select Ryan Shazier. Aaaaaaand we all cross our fingers. #22 is on the clock
Joemailman
05-06-2014, 07:25 PM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
Philadelphia is on the clock...
Bretsky
05-06-2014, 07:37 PM
EZ Pick for Phily...Brandin Cooks
A much cheaper version of Desean Jackson with a much better brain
RashanGary
05-06-2014, 09:05 PM
Cooks is different than Jackson. Height is similar, but weight is not. Cooks is a legit WR, not a gimmick. Steve Smith is the best comparison, and I dont know how much Ive talked about it here, but Smith has been one of my favorite players in the league. I love his game. Needless to say, I love Cooks game. I think he'll be a hell of a player for a long time. He does it all, plays bigger than he is, significantly.
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 09:37 PM
Dunno that it's as simple as some pie in the sky grade (assigned by who? NFL.com? Mel Kipper?). As someone else pointed out, Rodgers was a rather unique case - a player talked about as a potential #1 overall sitting there 20 picks later. TT took that bait again a few years later with Brohm a few years later. The Jets did it last year with Smith, although I'm not sure he was ever seriously considered a candidate for #1 overall.
TT got one right and that was his pick of the falling Aaron Rodgers.
What would TT's legacy be without Aaron Rodgers as his teams QB!?
woodbuck27
05-06-2014, 09:43 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock with the 23rd pick of Round 1.
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State
23. Kansas City - Picks ...
mraynrand
05-06-2014, 09:44 PM
What would TT's legacy be without Aaron Rodgers as his teams QB!?
Probably about the same as Packerrats' legacy without your shiny internet countenance.
Maybe TT picks Cutler in 2006!
HarveyWallbangers
05-07-2014, 02:46 AM
Cooks is different than Jackson. Height is similar, but weight is not. Cooks is a legit WR, not a gimmick. Steve Smith is the best comparison, and I dont know how much Ive talked about it here, but Smith has been one of my favorite players in the league. I love his game. Needless to say, I love Cooks game. I think he'll be a hell of a player for a long time. He does it all, plays bigger than he is, significantly.
It will be intersting, but I like Beckham slightly more. The main reason is that I'm convinced Beckham will be better as an outside receiver than Cooks. Cooks will be better in the slot.
Measurables are pretty similar.
Beckham = 5'11" 198, 4.43 40, 3.94 shuttle, 6.69 3 cone, 38.5" vertical, 122" broad jump
Cooks = 5'10" 189, 4.33 40, 3.81 shuttle, 6.76 3 cone, 36" vertical, 120" broad jump
Both are good route runners. Both are good after the catch. Similar hands. I think Beckham has slightly better ball skills.
woodbuck27
05-07-2014, 06:58 AM
Not a hockey fan but I will be rooting for Montreal for obvious reasons.
I apologize as this post isn't football related. I'm trying to cover the Montreal Canadiens Vs Boston Bruins series in Romper Room.
Really Brandon494 and.... if you tune into this series with some real focus. You might become more of a hockey fan.
I wasn't paying a lot of attention to the NBA this season until the Toronto Raptors came into their own. now I'm sucked into the raptor hype. Withal this racial prejudice on behalf of bruin fans I've even dropped the Boston Celtics as a very long term fan of that team.
I can't stand such stupid ignorance as the Bruin fans insist upon in this day and times. this isn't just a few fans. it's way too many of the Bruin fan base that are so fucking stupid. Those are the same fans that support my team since the 1950's the Boston Celtics. As a result I made a sound decision and the Boston Celtics are gone from my life. Surprizingly for me this decision was easy.
With that aside:
This series is turning out to be enormous in terms of the Canadiens Vs Bruins long term "original six" rivalry.
I truly love what I see in this series in terms of energy and excitement.
The Red ,White and Blue...Les Habitants (The Montreal Canadiens) came up huge and scored a 4-2 win at the very turned out and on Bell Center last evening. The center of attention PK Subban was enormous for the Montreal Canadiens leading his team with a goal and an assist and simply flying all over the ice.. I love the way PK Subban acts and plays the game. This young man is becoming stronger inspite of all adversity.
PK Subban was awarded the first Star for his outstanding effort in game three. He now has six points in the series and has to be very cautious that the Bruins don't target him with more aggressive play. This series should go seven games and I gurantee all that watch it...excitement.
woodbuck27
05-07-2014, 07:25 AM
The Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock with the 23rd pick of Round 1.
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State
23. Kansas City - Picks ...
OK let's get this mock rolling and it's 8:25 AM EST and the DRAFT is coming on fast now:
KC also wants a WR and with the NO. 23 Pick selects the next BPA WR ... Marqise Lee - WR - USC
Round 1 Pick NO. 24 ... Cincinnati is on the clock and picks:
Scott Campbell
05-07-2014, 07:47 AM
I can't stand such stupid ignorance as the Bruin fans insist upon in this day and times. this isn't just a few fans. it's way too many of the Bruin fan base that are so fucking stupid. Those are the same fans that support my team since the 1950's the Boston Celtics. As a result I made a sound decision and the Boston Celtics are gone from my life. Surprizingly for me this decision was easy.
Lucky fuckers. First they draft Larry Bird, and now this.
ThunderDan
05-07-2014, 08:15 AM
Lucky fuckers. First they draft Larry Bird, and now this.
Welcome back for your one post every 6 months.
mraynrand
05-07-2014, 09:38 AM
Lucky fuckers. First they draft Larry Bird, and now this.
Draft Mockery!
denverYooper
05-07-2014, 09:38 AM
Paging John Dorsey
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State (Bretsky)
23. Kansas City - Marquise Lee - WR - USC (Woodbuck)
The Bengals are in need of DBs and look to load up this year in the draft. They are happy to see local kid Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State available with the 24th pick.
The San Diego Chargers are on the clock.
Fritz
05-07-2014, 11:21 AM
TT got one right and that was his pick of the falling Aaron Rodgers.
What would TT's legacy be without Aaron Rodgers as his teams QB!?
I dunno, Woodbuck.
What would Wolf's legacy be without Favre?
Pioli/Belichik without Brady?
Ozzie Newsome without Joe Flacco?
Martin without Lewis?
Laurel without Hardy?
Ketchup without mustard?
smuggler
05-07-2014, 12:05 PM
Bengals select Kyle Fuller, CB, Va Tech
Bengals select Kyle Fuller, CB, Va Tech
Bengals already picked. San Diego is on the clock.
Guiness
05-07-2014, 12:23 PM
ok, gave smuggler some time to make his pick, but he seems to be gone!
Chargers buck the trend and take the first RB of the draft, Carlos Hyde.
Cleveland is on the clock.
Brandon494
05-07-2014, 02:05 PM
Cleveland Browns select WR Kelvin Benjamin giving Johnny Manziel a nice 1-2 punch at WR.
Saints on the clock...
Brandon494
05-07-2014, 02:09 PM
Not a big fan of Chargers taking a RB in the 1st round when they have Ryan Matthews, Ronnie Brown, and Danny Woodhead. They need a lot on help on defense if you look at their roster.
Cheesehead Craig
05-07-2014, 02:52 PM
The Saints need a bit of help in the secondary, so they pick CB Kyle Fuller
Carolina is on the clock.
Guiness
05-07-2014, 03:18 PM
Not a big fan of Chargers taking a RB in the 1st round when they have Ryan Matthews, Ronnie Brown, and Danny Woodhead. They need a lot on help on defense if you look at their roster.
I think the RB is a good value there. Considered Tuit on D.
I think Hyde also fills a need. Mathews is never going to play 16 games. Brown is 32(!!!). Woodhead is ok in his new role as an 'air back' but played over his head last year and won't likely duplicate the season. The Chargers are pretty thin at RB.
Brandon494
05-07-2014, 03:34 PM
I agree Brown is pretty much done but Matthews and Woodhead was a good 1-2 punch for them last season with Matthews playing all 16 games. They were 13th in rushing last season but 29th in pass defense. CB is their #1 need and I don't see them going RB when you go look at who they currently have starting at CB. I honestly believe we won't see a RB taken in the 1st round.
Guiness
05-07-2014, 03:41 PM
I agree Brown is pretty much done but Matthews and Woodhead was a good 1-2 punch for them last season with Matthews playing all 16 games. They were 13th in rushing last season but 29th in pass defense. CB is their #1 need and I don't see them going RB when you go look at who they currently have starting at CB. I honestly believe we won't see a RB taken in the 1st round.
Quite possible we could see that for the second year in a row. He's highly rated, but I honestly don't know that I've seen him going in the first round. Hard to believe the RB position is so devalued as to fall out of the first round entirely!
Joemailman
05-07-2014, 04:01 PM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State (Bretsky)
23. Kansas City - Marquise Lee - WR - USC (Woodbuck)
24. Cincinnati - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State (Zool)
25. San Diego - Carlos Hyde - RB - Ohio State (Guinness)
26. Cleveland - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St. (Brandon 494)
Joemailman
05-07-2014, 04:05 PM
New Orleans selects Xavier Su'a Filo - G - UCLA.
Carolina is on the clock.
Joemailman
05-07-2014, 04:05 PM
dp
smuggler
05-07-2014, 04:32 PM
Yeah sorry I am at work and missed the selection of Roby. I still feel that Fuller would be a better pick, but what do I care, it's the Bengals.
Guiness
05-07-2014, 06:46 PM
Dee Ford stands out as the guy who has dropped on our board.
Brandon494
05-07-2014, 09:28 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/mike-mayock/205660
Mike Mayock has Shazier, HaHA, and Donald still available at 21 and has the Packers picking Shazier....
Shazier is linebacker made for today's NFL. He has 4.38 speed at 237 pounds and can play inside in the base and all over the place in sub-packages. He'll be an immediate playmaker.
This guy is usually on the money when it comes to the draft. I'll be very happy with either one of those guys if the draft fell that way.
He has Bears selecting Pryor and Dallas taking Manziel.
woodbuck27
05-07-2014, 09:57 PM
I dunno, Woodbuck.
What would Wolf's legacy be without Favre?
Pioli/Belichik without Brady?
Ozzie Newsome without Joe Flacco?
Martin without Lewis?
Laurel without Hardy?
Ketchup without mustard?
Then your post suggest that life really is that easy.
Guiness
05-07-2014, 09:59 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/mike-mayock/205660
Mike Mayock has Shazier, HaHA, and Donald still available at 21 and has the Packers picking Shazier....
This guy is usually on the money when it comes to the draft. I'll be very happy with either one of those guys if the draft fell that way.
He has Bears selecting Pryor and Dallas taking Manziel.
Had to have a look to see who he moved up the board to make those HaHa and Donald drop. He has Kouandjio, an OT from Alabama, Cooks and Fuller all going before the Packers pick. He also has Bridgewater hanging around until the Browns pick at 26.
woodbuck27
05-07-2014, 10:47 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/mike-mayock/205660
Mike Mayock has Shazier, HaHA, and Donald still available at 21 and has the Packers picking Shazier....
This guy is usually on the money when it comes to the draft. I'll be very happy with either one of those guys if the draft fell that way.
He has Bears selecting Pryor and Dallas taking Manziel.
Mike Mayock is a very solid Draft analyst. Arguably the NFL and College prospect "Ultimate" Guru.
Mike Mayock may be wrong in terms of Hasean "Ha Ha" Clinton Dix as he's the top ranked FS and about a dozen NFL teams have a definite need at Safety.
DT Aaron Donald and falling to the Packers pick #21?
I see DT Aaron Donald wearing the colors of the Giants (Pick #12) or the Bears (Pick #14). After that he's going to be a likely BPA candidate and especially attractive to Dallas and Arizona.
Johnny Manziel...is an interesting 2014 Draft watch for me....but not "LIVE".
I'll have to tape this draft as I'm going to give first viewing priorityto the Bruins @ Canadians series fourth game at the Bell Center. There will be some excitement.
Dallas has clearly commented on Johnny Manziel and sources said that the organization would love to see him on the board when it was time for the Dallas Cowboys to pick so they could reject him as an option.
It seems that the Dallas Cowboys are either "doing a snow job" or not liking Johnny Manziel a whole bunch as their franchise QB.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/05/06/5798425/manziel-factor-wont-alter-cowboys.html
Manziel factor won’t alter Cowboys’ draft plan
Posted Tuesday, May. 06, 2014
" ...to let Jones tell it, the chances of the Cowboys drafting Manziel are about as slim as Jimmy Johnson returning as coach." Fr.
I read other stuff this week and last that told me that Johnny Manziel won't be drafted by Dallas if he falls to them.
Now ....what I'd love to see is Johnny Football drop to the Boys so we can get another look at Jerry Jones "two faces". I see little future and Dallas as a Super Bowl contender and Dallas with 34 year old QB Tony Romo.
superfan
05-07-2014, 11:47 PM
Guinness suggested I pick for Carolina, and I can't turn down an excellent Stout, so here we go.
My entirely uninformed opinion and "analysis" - looks like they are light at tackle, with undrafted 3rd year UCLA alum Nate Chandler currently slotted as starting LT. I'd never heard of him before, so clearly he should be upgraded, and somebody needs to watch Cam Newton's back.
The pick is in - Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
From walterfootball.com:
Height: 6-6. Weight: 314.
40 Time: 5.35.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
5/7/14: The top four offensive tackles are expected to go in the top 20 picks, so Moses has a shot at going to a tackle-needy team picking in the final 12 selections of the first round. WalterFootball.com spoke with teams picking early in the second round, and they don't believe that Moses will make it to Friday night.
Moses did not impress in his Combine workout, but that isn't the environment to illustrate what he does well. Moses had a good week at the Senior Bowl. He could use some work on his body to drop some flab and improve his strength, but he did well in the one-on-ones and showed his pass-protection potential.
Moses didn't play against BYU to start 2013, but he came back for Week 2 against Oregon. Moses stayed in the lineup after that to put together a quality senior season. Late in the year, he had an impressive performance against Miami.
8/9/13: Moses was the starter at right tackle on the other side from Oday Aboushi over the past two years. Moses was a solid player and capable run-blocker. He will need to improve his overall game and his pass protection, especially. Moses could stay at right tackle or move inside to guard in the NFL.
Personal: Son of Marion and Morris Moses.
woodbuck27
05-07-2014, 11:51 PM
Guinness suggested I pick for Carolina, and I can't turn down an excellent Stout, so here we go.
My entirely uninformed opinion and "analysis" - looks like they are light at tackle, with undrafted 3rd year UCLA alum Nate Chandler currently slotted as starting LT. I'd never heard of him before, so clearly he should be upgraded, and somebody needs to watch Cam Newton's back.
The pick is in - Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
From walterfootball.com:
Height: 6-6. Weight: 314.
40 Time: 5.35.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
5/7/14: The top four offensive tackles are expected to go in the top 20 picks, so Moses has a shot at going to a tackle-needy team picking in the final 12 selections of the first round. WalterFootball.com spoke with teams picking early in the second round, and they don't believe that Moses will make it to Friday night.
Moses did not impress in his Combine workout, but that isn't the environment to illustrate what he does well. Moses had a good week at the Senior Bowl. He could use some work on his body to drop some flab and improve his strength, but he did well in the one-on-ones and showed his pass-protection potential.
Moses didn't play against BYU to start 2013, but he came back for Week 2 against Oregon. Moses stayed in the lineup after that to put together a quality senior season. Late in the year, he had an impressive performance against Miami.
8/9/13: Moses was the starter at right tackle on the other side from Oday Aboushi over the past two years. Moses was a solid player and capable run-blocker. He will need to improve his overall game and his pass protection, especially. Moses could stay at right tackle or move inside to guard in the NFL.
Personal: Son of Marion and Morris Moses.
A lot of posters might have picked at WR.
Your analysis as always:
SOUND.
woodbuck27
05-07-2014, 11:51 PM
Guinness suggested I pick for Carolina, and I can't turn down an excellent Stout, so here we go.
My entirely uninformed opinion and "analysis" - looks like they are light at tackle, with undrafted 3rd year UCLA alum Nate Chandler currently slotted as starting LT. I'd never heard of him before, so clearly he should be upgraded, and somebody needs to watch Cam Newton's back.
The pick is in - Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
From walterfootball.com:
Height: 6-6. Weight: 314.
40 Time: 5.35.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
5/7/14: The top four offensive tackles are expected to go in the top 20 picks, so Moses has a shot at going to a tackle-needy team picking in the final 12 selections of the first round. WalterFootball.com spoke with teams picking early in the second round, and they don't believe that Moses will make it to Friday night.
Moses did not impress in his Combine workout, but that isn't the environment to illustrate what he does well. Moses had a good week at the Senior Bowl. He could use some work on his body to drop some flab and improve his strength, but he did well in the one-on-ones and showed his pass-protection potential.
Moses didn't play against BYU to start 2013, but he came back for Week 2 against Oregon. Moses stayed in the lineup after that to put together a quality senior season. Late in the year, he had an impressive performance against Miami.
8/9/13: Moses was the starter at right tackle on the other side from Oday Aboushi over the past two years. Moses was a solid player and capable run-blocker. He will need to improve his overall game and his pass protection, especially. Moses could stay at right tackle or move inside to guard in the NFL.
Personal: Son of Marion and Morris Moses.
dbl. post
smuggler
05-07-2014, 11:52 PM
I really would be shocked if HaHa and Donald were both there at 21
woodbuck27
05-08-2014, 12:03 AM
I really would be shocked if HaHa and Donald were both there at 21
That would surprize me based on grade and DT Aaron Donald and in Hasean Clinton Dix's case:
Over one third of the teams need at Safety. I don't see him slipping any further than Baltimore at Pick NO. 17.
woodbuck27
05-08-2014, 12:04 AM
I really would be shocked if HaHa and Donald were both there at 21
dbl. post
woodbuck27
05-08-2014, 12:42 AM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State (Bretsky)
23. Kansas City - Marquise Lee - WR - USC (Woodbuck27)
24. Cincinnati - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State (Zool)
25. San Diego - Carlos Hyde - RB - Ohio State (Guinness)
26. Cleveland - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St. (Brandon494)
27. New Orleans - Xavier Su'a Filo - G - UCLA. (Joemailman)
28. Carolina - Morgan Moses - OT- Virginia (Superfan)
29. New England -
New England is on the clock someone please make a pick.
and @ Pick NO
woodbuck27
05-08-2014, 12:42 AM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State (Bretsky)
23. Kansas City - Marquise Lee - WR - USC (Woodbuck27)
24. Cincinnati - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State (Zool)
25. San Diego - Carlos Hyde - RB - Ohio State (Guinness)
26. Cleveland - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St. (Brandon494)
27. New Orleans - Xavier Su'a Filo - G - UCLA. (Joemailman)
28. Carolina - Morgan Moses - OT- Virginia (Superfan)
29. New England -
New England is on the clock someone please make a pick.
This again is a dbl post but I'll leave it as is because it's at the top of Pg. 8.
smuggler
05-08-2014, 01:16 AM
Easy pick. Patriots take Louis Nix.
Cheesehead Craig
05-08-2014, 08:01 AM
The Saints need a bit of help in the secondary, so they pick CB Kyle Fuller
Carolina is on the clock.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Why was my pick for New Orleans simply ignored? Bunch of fascists.
smuggler
05-08-2014, 10:10 AM
I noticed it too, Craig. :/
superfan
05-08-2014, 10:21 AM
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Why was my pick for New Orleans simply ignored? Bunch of fascists.
You must not have made it to the podium on time.
Cheesehead Craig
05-08-2014, 10:51 AM
You must not have made it to the podium on time.
Rep point for super. We need to get together for a Packer game with Harv this fall.
Guiness
05-08-2014, 10:53 AM
Guinness suggested I pick for Carolina, and I can't turn down an excellent Stout, so here we go.
:mrgreen:
mraynrand
05-08-2014, 10:53 AM
Are you mockin' me with that outfit?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--McWAnXvdls/UJxSyr78cRI/AAAAAAAAM7U/_oPA6Gqr7fQ/s1600/pesci2.jpg
Guiness
05-08-2014, 10:55 AM
Rep point for super. We need to get together for a Packer game with Harv this fall.
This is the second time someone has brought up a poster's game - it needs to happen! I've got my sights set on the Packers in Buffalo, but will change in a heartbeat.
Brandon494
05-08-2014, 03:41 PM
The rich get richer.....49ers select CB Kyle Fuller from Virginia Tech.
Broncos on the clock.....
Are you mockin' me with that outfit?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--McWAnXvdls/UJxSyr78cRI/AAAAAAAAM7U/_oPA6Gqr7fQ/s1600/pesci2.jpg
are you on drugs?
pbmax
05-08-2014, 04:24 PM
Did anyone set out the Bat Signal for Lurker and Rastak tonight?
Did anyone set out the Bat Signal for Lurker and Rastak tonight?
ras always shows up out of the blue for draft night
mraynrand
05-08-2014, 04:50 PM
The rich get richer.....49ers select CB Kyle Fuller from Virginia Tech.
Broncos on the clock.....
Fuller wets the bed
http://i.imgur.com/pTzZC.jpg
Brandon494
05-08-2014, 04:55 PM
I still laugh my ass off from this scene...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW0bN19Pqzk
woodbuck27
05-08-2014, 07:44 PM
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State (Bretsky)
23. Kansas City - Marquise Lee - WR - USC (Woodbuck27)
24. Cincinnati - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State (Zool)
25. San Diego - Carlos Hyde - RB - Ohio State (Guinness)
26. Cleveland - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St. (Brandon494)
27. New Orleans - Xavier Su'a Filo - G - UCLA. (Joemailman)
28. Carolina - Morgan Moses - OT- Virginia (Superfan)
29. New England - Louis Nix III - DT - Notre Dame (smuggler)
30. San Francisco - CB Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech (mraynrand)
31. Denver - Jason Verrett - CB - TCU (woodbuck27)
Seattle is on the clock.
esoxx
05-08-2014, 08:29 PM
Seattle selects DE Stephon Tuitt from Notre Dame.
Brandon494
05-08-2014, 09:47 PM
Are you mockin' me with that outfit?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--McWAnXvdls/UJxSyr78cRI/AAAAAAAAM7U/_oPA6Gqr7fQ/s1600/pesci2.jpg
How did you know what HaHa was going to wear?
How did you know what HaHa was going to wear?
LOL
pretty fucking close. just need a bowtie
woodbuck27
05-08-2014, 10:01 PM
OK Good work...Round One is complete:
01. Houston - Jadaveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (Zool)
02. St. Louis - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson (smuggler)
03. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo (HarveyWallbangers)
04. Cleveland - Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M (BZnDallas)
05. Oakland - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn (Guinness)
06. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M (Joemailman)
07. Tampa Bay - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M (woodbuck27)
08. Minnesota - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh (pbmax)
09. Buffalo - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan (bobblehead)
10. Detroit - Anthony Barr - DE/OLB - UCLA (Fritz)
11. Tennessee - Blake Bortles - QB - UCF (Zool)
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame (denverYooper)
13. St. Louis - Hasean 'Ha Ha' Clinton-Dix - FS- Alabama (pbmax)
14. Chicago - C. J. Mosely - ILB - Alabama (digitaldean)
15. Pittsburgh - Darquese Dennard - CB - Michigan State (Joemailman)
16. Dallas - Calvin Prior - FS - Louisville (woodbuck27)
17. Baltimore - Odell Beckham, Jr - WR - LSU (smuggler)
18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron - TE - UNC (Brandon494)
19. Miami - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State (HarveyWallbangers)
20. Arizona- Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville (Justin Harrell)
21. Green Bay - Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio St. (Poll)
22. Philadelphia - Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State (Bretsky)
23. Kansas City - Marquise Lee - WR - USC (Woodbuck27)
24. Cincinnati - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State (Zool)
25. San Diego - Carlos Hyde - RB - Ohio State (Guinness)
26. Cleveland - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St. (Brandon494)
27. New Orleans - Xavier Su'a Filo - G - UCLA. (Joemailman)
28. Carolina - Morgan Moses - OT- Virginia (Superfan)
29. New England - Louis Nix III - DT - Notre Dame (smuggler)
30. San Francisco - CB Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech (mraynrand)
31. Denver - Jason Verrett - CB - TCU (woodbuck27)
32. Seattle - Stephon Tuitt - 34 DE and 43 DT - Notre Dame (esoxx)
woodbuck27
05-08-2014, 10:16 PM
Seattle selects DE Stephon Tuitt from Notre Dame.
In reality Seattle picks:
Pick No. 32 - Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame
esoxx... your downright scary. It's NOT fair. :sad:
I'm quitting the pro Pickem.
Guiness
05-08-2014, 11:37 PM
So...we got pick #1, 6 and 7 right.
and that's all.
woodbuck27
05-09-2014, 07:54 AM
So...we got pick #1, 6 and 7 right.
and that's all.
Maybe hahaha....they got it wrong?
I sure hope that TT got it right. That's all that really matters to Packer Nation.
Joemailman
05-09-2014, 08:02 AM
So...we got pick #1, 6 and 7 right.
and that's all.
Jax taking Bortles at 3 screwed everything up.
mraynrand
05-09-2014, 08:09 AM
So...we got pick #1, 6 and 7 right.
We're getting sent down to the minors.
Joemailman
05-09-2014, 08:58 AM
We're getting sent down to the minors.
It was a tough year. McGinn only got 1,5,6,19 and 25 right. McGinn got the JuWaun James to Miami pick right, which seemed a shocker. He must have had a good source in Miami for that one. Philbin I suppose.
HarveyWallbangers
05-09-2014, 09:12 AM
I like Ja'Wuan James. I had him ranked higher than Cyrus Kouandjio on my board--which went against most experts. I'd like to point out that I didn't read McGinn's mock draft. I didn't want to waste one of my 20 articles/month on a silly mock draft.
:)
pbmax
05-09-2014, 05:10 PM
How many of the first rounders did we get? That is what mockers are falling back on today.
I was 0-2 burt both first rounders though!
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