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pbmax
05-27-2014, 08:31 AM
Alright, let's get the unfounded speculation started before OTAs kick off.


Demovsky: In talking to several people who got to watch more practice than the one session the media was allowed to attend, it sounds like that among the draft picks, the following players stood out: safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, center Corey Linsley, defensive tackle Khyri Thornton, plus receivers Davante Adams and Jared Abbrederis. Keep in mind, that was an extremely early analysis, but it sounds like those players definitely caught the attention of the coaches and scouts right away. As for the group of undrafted rookies, the gems from that class should start to shine as the OTAs progress over the next month.

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/9929/mailbag-whats-up-with-jermichael-finley

Joemailman
05-27-2014, 08:52 AM
So Richard Rodgers, Carl Bradford, Demetri Goodson and Jeff Janis look like busts?

mraynrand
05-27-2014, 09:11 AM
Can any of these guys handle hos in Vegas? That's what separates great rookies from pretenders.

woodbuck27
05-27-2014, 09:33 AM
So Richard Rodgers, Carl Bradford, Demetri Goodson and Jeff Janis look like busts?

NO...

This Rob Demovsky report simply says:

That early in the 2014 Rookie Camp portion of the OTA's; among the 2014 draft picks, the following players stood out:

** Safety Hasean "Ha Ha" Clinton-Dix

** C- Corey Linsley

** DT Khyri Thornton

and *** WR's: Davante Adams and Jared Abbrederis ***.

*** Note: RE: http://www.packers.com/

and Green Bay Packer fans paying attention.....

Which draft pick at wide receiver will make the biggest rookie splash?

Davante Adams - 54%

Jared Abbrederis - 38%

Jeff Janis - 9% (Then it may be assumed that WR Jeff Janis is conceived by the results of this poll to be an extreme longshot to make the 2014 Green Bay Packer Roster.

10894 Total Votes

pbmax
05-27-2014, 09:42 AM
So Richard Rodgers, Carl Bradford, Demetri Goodson and Jeff Janis look like busts?

McGinn has a piece ready to go for next Sunday that questions if a healthy Thompson would ever make the Rodgers pick. Sources say he is thinking about retirement due to inability to scout TEs, therefore McGinn believes Ted will retroactively retire, to be dated Jan 2, 2014.

woodbuck27
05-27-2014, 10:31 AM
McGinn has a piece ready to go for next Sunday that questions if a healthy Thompson would ever make the Rodgers pick. Sources say he is thinking about retirement due to inability to scout TEs, therefore McGinn believes Ted will retroactively retire, to be dated Jan 2, 2014.



Is Ted Thompson suffering " NFL TE Identification Competency NOT " Syndrome. If so; that's a terrible fate !?

The Green Bay Packers need "a growing Ted Thompson". I'll be very surprized if TT retires inside of the next two seasons. I believe my insight is decently strong.

Translation: TT isn't going anywhere real fast. His ego needs his current job. What's he going to do as an alternative to a super job as the Green Bay Packers GM?

Retire to become "a surfer"?

Maybe raise dogs or become an artist.

He's an NFL GM and that's where he'll remain as the challenge his life needs unless he has a serious health issue...like dementia setting in....or something else.

I hope for Ted Thompson that's NOT the case. That Ted Thompson is healthy and up to the difficult task of managing a great NFL organization.

I believe that TT is growing this off season when I just about had it with his dull style...his do nothing to not much approach to managing the Green Bay Packers.

I've had a lot of difficulty with his long absences and anti-social tendencies. I've always felt that Ted Thompson needs to become more visible...more informative/communicative. Lay it all out there for us to see and grade.

His "mystery style man" thing hasn't been attractive to me. I think I see some change. I believe he's growing ...will grow.

Ted Thompson may simply need to accept one thing. Maybe his ego needs a tweaking. Talent evaluation for the NFL is more miss than hit.

His ability to evaluate real NFL quality talent is about on par with most of the best NFL Team GM's.

Getting down to specifics and I'm now on record as:

Not being over joyed and ** the Richard Rodgers pick **, where TT made it. On a gut instinct basis and being a very long term Pro Sport fan that pick at the end of Round 3 was a disappointment to me. We needed to see more attention paid to our OL and DL.

** I always hope I'm wrong. ** That a pick might indeed be a real value to any Pro team I support.

mraynrand
05-27-2014, 11:04 AM
McGinn has a piece ready to go for next Sunday that questions if a healthy Thompson would ever make the Rodgers pick. Sources say he is thinking about retirement due to inability to scout TEs, therefore McGinn believes Ted will retroactively retire, to be dated Jan 2, 2014.

Not a chance. Full pension doesn't kick in until September and he wants to get his hip replaced before he retires.

woodbuck27
05-27-2014, 11:11 AM
In this Press conference TT seems OK to me:

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/What_keeps_Packers_GM_Thompson_going_The_chase/6335f731-169a-4124-96f3-69015bd15902

He looks stamped Green Bay Packers ...through and through.

To the question:

How many drafts do you think you've got in you?

Look at this video and see for yourself his responses.

He's asked:

What keeps you going?

What's Ted Thompson's response to that question!?




Looking at this video:

Ted Thompson is always in control.

GM Ted Thompson will remain the Green Bay Packer GM for the next two - three seasons (at least). I believe that Ted Thompson loves his job and responsibilities. I'm not sure I've ever seen Ted Thompson so candid before the camera (local media). I think he's growing.

GO Ted Thompson...GO PACK GO !


Also while I'm here:

Head Coach Mike McCarthy on this 2014 class of Packer Rookies and the post DRAFT added UFA's. The opportunity all of these prospects have now that they have the attention of the Green Bay Packers.

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/McCarthy_on_rookies_They_act_like_they_belong/f5eecafa-f567-4e60-aa44-9e5ad5592286

McCarthy on rookies: "They act like they belong"

My observation: Mike McCarthy looks rested and set to go this season. He's as keen as ever.

These two Packer leaders have me thinking our 2014 season could be very special.

MadScientist
05-27-2014, 02:03 PM
Alright, let's get the unfounded speculation started before OTAs kick off.


Demovsky: In talking to several people who got to watch more practice than the one session the media was allowed to attend, it sounds like that among the draft picks, the following players stood out: safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, center Corey Linsley, defensive tackle Khyri Thornton, plus receivers Davante Adams and Jared Abbrederis. Keep in mind, that was an extremely early analysis, but it sounds like those players definitely caught the attention of the coaches and scouts right away. As for the group of undrafted rookies, the gems from that class should start to shine as the OTAs progress over the next month.


http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/9929/mailbag-whats-up-with-jermichael-finley


So Richard Rodgers, Carl Bradford, Demetri Goodson and Jeff Janis look like busts?

Kind of surprising that Thornton and Linsley stood out as they usually say you can't tell anything about linemen until the pads go on. As for the ones who didn't stand out, there could be many factors. OTA's are going to tell us a whole lot more. That's when we started hearing about Shields making plays every day and Flynn looking better than Brohm, etc.

2012 review:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/151395585.html#!page=2&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst

2013 review:
http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/what-we-learned-from-the-packers-first-rookie-minicamp-of-2013
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/McCarthy-praises-camp-ending-practice/40c5180b-d5ce-46f9-90fd-036e146e62c6


Upshot, it's nice to hear about the top picks standing out, but take reviews about the rookie camp with a salt-lick sized grain of salt.

woodbuck27
05-27-2014, 07:59 PM
Kind of surprising that Thornton and Linsley stood out as they usually say you can't tell anything about linemen until the pads go on. As for the ones who didn't stand out, there could be many factors. OTA's are going to tell us a whole lot more. That's when we started hearing about Shields making plays every day and Flynn looking better than Brohm, etc.

2012 review:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/151395585.html#!page=2&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst

2013 review:
http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/what-we-learned-from-the-packers-first-rookie-minicamp-of-2013
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/McCarthy-praises-camp-ending-practice/40c5180b-d5ce-46f9-90fd-036e146e62c6


Upshot, it's nice to hear about the top picks standing out, but take reviews about the rookie camp with a salt-lick sized grain of salt.

I predict that Flynn "will" look better than Brohm.

Bretsky
05-27-2014, 09:05 PM
So Richard Rodgers, Carl Bradford, Demetri Goodson and Jeff Janis look like busts?


Rodgers will make the team; I'd have been happy with that pick...in round 5. :)
I do like Bradford.

No surprise Abrederis caught the coaches eye to me. He's a football player who studies and maxes out his skills and consistently outperforms. Guys who love measurables fall for guys like Dez Southward and Janis. Guys who love all around great football players who produce like Borland and Abrederis

smuggler
05-27-2014, 10:06 PM
don't lump Janis in with Southward. He had the production and has the measurables. his issue was mostly that he played at a small school in division 2

woodbuck27
05-27-2014, 11:41 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/9951/rookie-pair-has-good-reason-to-miss-ota

Rookie pair ( Davante Adams and Khyri Thornton ) have a good reason to miss OTAs

May, 27, 2014 1:45 PM ET

By Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

Guiness
05-27-2014, 11:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/9951/rookie-pair-has-good-reason-to-miss-ota

Rookie pair ( Davante Adams and Khyri Thornton ) have a good reason to miss OTAs

May, 27, 2014 1:45 PM ET

By Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

What the hell?
FTA
Players attending the event will hear from guest speakers that include former and current NFL players plus NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith and NFLPI president Keith Gordon and will participate in photo shoots with the trading card companies Panini America and Topps at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

Photo shoots with trading card companies??? I think I'd rather see them in camp, especially with the limited amount of OTAs teams are allowed to have now. Really not good for rookies to miss them. You'd think the NFL could do a better job of scheduling, this could've been done anytime from the draft up to and including last week. Studpid.

woodbuck27
05-28-2014, 06:27 AM
What the hell?
FTA

Photo shoots with trading card companies??? I think I'd rather see them in camp, especially with the limited amount of OTAs teams are allowed to have now. Really not good for rookies to miss them. You'd think the NFL could do a better job of scheduling, this could've been done anytime from the draft up to and including last week. Studpid.

Yes....my thoughts also.

pittstang5
05-28-2014, 07:13 AM
What the hell?
FTA

Photo shoots with trading card companies??? I think I'd rather see them in camp, especially with the limited amount of OTAs teams are allowed to have now. Really not good for rookies to miss them. You'd think the NFL could do a better job of scheduling, this could've been done anytime from the draft up to and including last week. Studpid.

My initital reaction as well. SMH

Patler
05-28-2014, 08:18 AM
I wonder who set their date first, the sponsors for the PR event, or the Packers for their OTA?

I wonder if players could decline? If only 40 are selected to go , how is it that the 53rd and 85th picks are selected for it, especially when one was as low profile as Thornton?

woodbuck27
05-28-2014, 09:44 AM
I wonder who set their date first, the sponsors for the PR event, or the Packers for their OTA?

I wonder if players could decline? If only 40 are selected to go , how is it that the 53rd and 85th picks are selected for it, especially when one was as low profile as Thornton?

It's a conspiracy against the Green Bay Packers.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anW8PxP-Izc/UqnwtKVF97I/AAAAAAAAJ8A/2Q_VNqnWNuI/s1600/Bowler-Hat-Guy1.jpg

Smidgeon
05-28-2014, 10:21 AM
I wonder who set their date first, the sponsors for the PR event, or the Packers for their OTA?

I wonder if players could decline? If only 40 are selected to go , how is it that the 53rd and 85th picks are selected for it, especially when one was as low profile as Thornton?

Rookies can't decline. I think it was Brandon Jackson a few years back who had the same issue (might've been another player). There was an article at the time where he was saying he'd rather be in GB, but he didn't have a choice.

Guiness
05-28-2014, 10:34 AM
I wonder who set their date first, the sponsors for the PR event, or the Packers for their OTA?

I wonder if players could decline? If only 40 are selected to go , how is it that the 53rd and 85th picks are selected for it, especially when one was as low profile as Thornton?

Most team's camps are running this week and next. If they'd set up the event for last week they would've avoided potential conflicts with any team.

Patler
05-28-2014, 11:14 AM
Most team's camps are running this week and next. If they'd set up the event for last week they would've avoided potential conflicts with any team.

I think there were a handful of teams that started last week, too. But the bigger questions in my mind were about the player selection process and whether or not a player could decline. With only 40 chosen, it seems odd that two would be selected from the Packers, and not even including their 1st round pick. The two selected were not all that highly ranked at their positions, and neither has much name recognition nationally. Did a bunch of players decline, making it an option for Thornton? If many players did decline, it doesn't speck well for these two not choosing OTAs over an NFL sponsored ego-fest.

pbmax
05-28-2014, 11:19 AM
I blame Colt Listerine.

Iron Mike
05-29-2014, 08:57 PM
Anybody else giddy over the thought of this bearing down on Smokin' Jay Cutler???

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Iron Mike
05-29-2014, 09:05 PM
I blame Colt Listerine.

And, there's your boy today:

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woodbuck27
05-29-2014, 09:53 PM
And, there's your boy today:

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Animal.

Julius Peppers and CM III = ANIMALS !!!

Guiness
06-05-2014, 02:21 PM
I think there were a handful of teams that started last week, too. But the bigger questions in my mind were about the player selection process and whether or not a player could decline. With only 40 chosen, it seems odd that two would be selected from the Packers, and not even including their 1st round pick. The two selected were not all that highly ranked at their positions, and neither has much name recognition nationally. Did a bunch of players decline, making it an option for Thornton? If many players did decline, it doesn't speck well for these two not choosing OTAs over an NFL sponsored ego-fest.

Turns out they can not decline - or at least, if they don't attend, they can not choose to be at team facilities instead.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/05/bridgewater-bummed-rookie-premiere-forced-him-to-miss-otas/