Non-contact practices wreaking havoc

[Guiness]

All kinds of shit happening during the 'non-contact' practices. The league is going to have to investigate. I wonder if the NFLPA is starting to think they went too far scaling things back?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/27/chiefs-rookie-camp-was-pretty-physical-despite-cba-limitations/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/27/cowboys-fear-torn-acl-for-sean-lee/

Looks like Sean Lee might be out for the year.

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Sean Lee possibly gone for the year. Rookie responsible in “non-contact drill”. League investigation to follow.

That, folks, is called a Hat Trick.

[mraynrand]

maybe he's a fast healer.

[pbmax]

One report I read said someone drive Lee into the turf. Watch nothing happen on that front.

[Guiness]

Video here. Left knee injured.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboys/0ap2000000353694/Sean-Lee-injured-at-Cowboys-OTAs

Sure doesn't look like much. Can't see how you can blame Martin, the rookie who landed on him. Looks like Lee's leg buckled and Martin only landed on top of him because it was unexpected and he couldn't stop on time.

[pbmax]

Video here. Left knee injured.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboys/0ap2000000353694/Sean-Lee-injured-at-Cowboys-OTAs

Sure doesn't look like much. Can't see how you can blame Martin, the rookie who landed on him. Looks like Lee's leg buckled and Martin only landed on top of him because it was unexpected and he couldn't stop on time.

Aren't OTAs supposed to be non-contact?

His right leg was planted to stop his momentum and seems to slip out from under him, looks like just before contact.

But his left leg buckled after contact. If its his left that is injured, I would guess it happened after contact.

[Joemailman]

Seattle lose some OTA's last year because of excessive contact in OTA's. The NFL and union will be all over this.

[pbmax]

Seattle lose some OTA's last year because of excessive contact in OTA's. The NFL and union will be all over this.

Usually it has to be egregious and repeated to get them to take it seriously. They have overlooked a lot before, including allowing teams to remove practice video with contact visible without any announced sanction.

An injury might be noteworthy enough to encourage something to happen, but they seem to prefer to let it slide. Someone will need to make a stink.

[woodbuck27]

Shit happens in a violent sport such as football.

Players are competing for jobs and BIG pay checks.

[Guiness]

Aren't OTAs supposed to be non-contact?

His right leg was planted to stop his momentum and seems to slip out from under him, looks like just before contact.

But his left leg buckled after contact. If its his left that is injured, I would guess it happened after contact.

Walkthrough, non-contact, light contact, no pads, etc. I really don't know what they're supposed to be.

Watching the clip a few more times, Martin does get his hands on him and give him a pretty good shove backwards. I tried to watch the left leg, didn't see anything. It didn't look like it was bent the wrong way or anything, but that was a lineman landing on him, so 300lbs anyways. Anything could happen under that, lucky he didn't broken ribs and have a collapsed lung.

[bobblehead]

Seattle lose some OTA's last year because of excessive contact in OTA's. The NFL and union will be all over this.

Seattle never has contact outside of games. Husbands can't even touch their wives other than on gameday.

[woodbuck27]

Seattle never has contact outside of games. Husbands can't even touch their wives other than on gameday.

if I was managing Seatle I'd certainly ban that.

I want my players strong /hungry...... "full of piss and vinegar".

The next thing we'll learn is that Seattle allows haircuts on game day.

[Guiness]

And the ACL tear is confirmed
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/27/report-mri-confirms-torn-acl-for-sean-lee/

[smuggler]

Cowboys having some shitty luck lately. They'll probably get some kind of punishment for contact in their OTA, too, since Goodell is a known Giants fan.

[mraynrand]

Cowboys having some shitty luck lately. They'll probably get some kind of punishment for contact in their OTA, too, since Goodell is a known Giants fan.

that worm can turn pretty fast, so I for one will not engage in Schlauderaffreude.

[pbmax]

And we are done here:

Report: Despite Sean Lee ACL, NFLPA is OK with Cowboys’ OTAs (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/03/report-despite-sean-lee-acl-nflpa-is-ok-with-cowboys-otas/)

[Guiness]

And we are done here:

Report: Despite Sean Lee ACL, NFLPA is OK with Cowboys’ OTAs (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/03/report-despite-sean-lee-acl-nflpa-is-ok-with-cowboys-otas/)

The league had to let that one go, JJ still hasn't come down from losing the cap space the past two years, and if they'd fined them for this his head might well have exploded. Godell didn't want that on his watch.

I watched the clip a few more times, and IMO Lee's ACL spontaneously shattered and left the building all on its own.

[MadScientist]

The league had to let that one go, JJ still hasn't come down from losing the cap space the past two years, and if they'd fined them for this his head might well have exploded. Godell didn't want that on his watch.

I watched the clip a few more times, and IMO Lee's ACL spontaneously shattered and left the building all on its own.

Yea, it looked like the lineman wanted to give him a shove and met with so little resistance he fell on top of Lee. Certainly no fan of JJ, but he would have been right to blow his top if that incident drew a league penalty.

[woodbuck27]

And the ACL tear is confirmed
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/27/report-mri-confirms-torn-acl-for-sean-lee/

That sure sucks bad for Cowboy fans.

The Green Bay Packers equivalent would be us losing Clay Matthews III for the entire 2014 season.

[Just Jeff]

The Green Bay Packers equivalent would be us losing Clay Matthews III for the entire 2014 season.

As opposed to the usual half a season

[woodbuck27]

As opposed to the usual half a season

Yea.

We need a solid season out of CM III to back up acquiring Julius Peppers.

We're no longer playing "HAPPY" to win the NFCN.

It's the NFC Conference title game or a busted season.

GO PACK GO !

[Guiness]

'boys think there's a chance Lee will be back before the end of the season
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4729112/lee-surgery-scheduled-for-thursday?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed


Coach Jason Garrett said he anticipates the surgery to be done by the Cowboys’ medical staff and would not close the door on Lee returning later in the season.

Let's see, it's June, and the surgery is this week. If they would like him back in time for the start of the playoffs, that means 6 1/2 month recovery period. Ya, that would be something.

[pbmax]

Not much point in bringing him back to finish 8-8 with a flourish and just miss the playoffs again.

[woodbuck27]

'boys think there's a chance Lee will be back before the end of the season
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4729112/lee-surgery-scheduled-for-thursday?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed



Let's see, it's June, and the surgery is this week. If they would like him back in time for the start of the playoffs, that means 6 1/2 month recovery period. Ya, that would be something.

I feel bad for this Cowboy. He was playing at such a high level before the two injuries.

[gbgary]

Not much point in bringing him back to finish 8-8 with a flourish and just miss the playoffs again.

the boys almost never finish with a flourish. they have a terrible december record. would love to see them at 8 and 8 again. long live jerry.

[Joemailman]

LB Sean Weatherspoon of Atlanta is out for the year with a ruptured achilles he hurt in practice. He missed 9 games last year with a foot injury. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000357356/article/sean-weatherspoon-out-for-season-with-torn-achilles

He was the 19th overall pick in the 2010 draft.

[Guiness]

And another
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/12/jon-beason-carted-off-field-at-giants-otas/

Is there more of this than usual, or is the media just paying more attention to it because the the players going down are reasonably high profile?

[MadScientist]

Sucks getting injured in OTA's, but for bottom of the roster guys the worst is getting injured working out on your own before camp starts. The teams can just cut them with a failed physical / non-football injury designation, no PUP, no IR, just good bye. They can't do that with OTA injuries.