OFFICIAL 2015 NFL DRAFT THREAD

[red]

ok guys, so it looks like we're gonna have the top pick in next years draft

who are the top guys to watch out for?

i guess it'll all depend on who the coaches are

i would personally like a tough, mean, nasty defender

[red]

we need a new OT

the big ones are

Andrus Peat– Stanford
Brandon Scherff– Iowa
Cedric Ogbuehi– Texas A&M
Donovan Smith– Penn State
Cameron Erving– Florida State

[Freak Out]

Always good to start scouting early.

[red]

we also should probably alladmit that we need 2 real ILB's if we are gonna keep using this abortion of a defensive scheme

Eric Kendricks, ILB, UCLA is one we are already being linked to

Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami is another to watch. i am fine with getting an ILB from the U

[Joemailman]

Walter Football has packers taking Kendricks with the 27th pick. http://walterfootball.com/draft2015_1.php

[red]

Walter Football has packers taking Kendricks with the 27th pick. http://walterfootball.com/draft2015_1.php

yeah, that was the site i used to get those names

love that site

[Cheesehead Craig]

We should start on Rodgers replacement now.

[Striker]

Saints might challenge for the top pick.

[Teamcheez1]

Walter Football has packers taking Kendricks with the 27th pick. http://walterfootball.com/draft2015_1.php

That's assuming we trade up from 32.

[Guiness]

It's ok red, don't jump!
http://33.media.tumblr.com/ffabe3349dd670e6096d204b9f6caccf/tumblr_mrsrkn7pJC1qdx53qo1_1280.jpg

[pbmax]

I haven't even started my Christmas shopping yet.

[pbmax]

We should start on Rodgers replacement now.

Must avoid this guy:

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 12h12 hours ago
Funny seeing this [Jameis] Winston stuff. Was given the league's write-up on him before the season. Off-field stuff was a novel even back then.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Must avoid this guy:

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 12h12 hours ago
Funny seeing this [Jameis] Winston stuff. Was given the league's write-up on him before the season. Off-field stuff was a novel even back then.

He's not gonna be much in the pros. Whoever drafts him is wasting a pick, IMO.

[Maxie the Taxi]

2015 draft is going to be the year of the RB.

[red]

whoever drafts winston should be fired imediately

[pbmax]

whoever drafts winston should be fired imediately

Jets, Jaguars or Titans it is then. Maybe Washington if Danny gets involved.

[Joemailman]

2015 draft is going to be the year of the RB.

Not sure if there is such a thing anymore. For Packer fans, it will be "Which ILB should TT draft?"

[red]

We need a stud ILB or a new o-tackle

But i would be fine looking for a tackle after the first round seeings how TT sucks at picking those guys early

Although the 2 tackles hes drafted i liked

Maybe its time to find a free agent tackle?

[Joemailman]

Bulaga, Sherrod and Barclay are all free agents after this year, although Barclay may be restricted. So OT will likely be seen as a need unless TT signs all 3. ILB is an obvious need, and NT could be a need if they don't sign Raji.

[Freak Out]

Is there a stud ILB or TE that TT could trade for now?

[Bretsky]

There is a nice HOF tight end who loves winning out there who would really help...of course.....a signing like that aint's Ted's thing

BRING ON GONZO !!!!!!!!!!

[Tyrion Lannister]

Is there a stud ILB or TE that TT could trade for now?

Favre will come out of retirement to play for the Tundra Terrors before Thompson makes an in-season trade.

McCarthy oughta use Janis like a TE in the slot to stretch the middle of the field. :)

[smuggler]

Since my local radio are convinced that when the Eagles beat us on Sunday, our season will be effectively over, I thought I would revive this thread.

Who do you guys like in the first round? I like Shawn Oakman, d-lineman, from Baylor. :)

1 - Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
2 - Ellis McCarthy, DT, UCLA
3 - Eric Kendricks, LB, UCLA
4 - Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers
5 - Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma
5c (James Jones) - Brandon Bridge, QB, Southern Alabama
5c (Evan Deitrich-Smith) - Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama
6 - Damian Swann, CB, Georgia
7 - Kasen Williams, WR, Rice

[Joemailman]

Since my local radio are convinced that when the Eagles beat us on Sunday, our season will be effectively over, I thought I would revive this thread.

Who do you guys like in the first round? I like Shawn Oakman, d-lineman, from Baylor. :)

Awesome prospect, but will probably be long gone before Packers pick. Has had some issues, was dismissed from the Penn State team. Doubt TT would consider him in the 1st round.

Anybody like Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Miss. St.?

[smuggler]

Awesome prospect, but will probably be long gone before Packers pick. Has had some issues, was dismissed from the Penn State team. Doubt TT would consider him in the 1st round.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the Sandusky shit? Just speculation. It's also been two years, so he may have grown up. I really hope we consider him. He seems pretty close to the Peppers mold.

As for Bernardrick... I like McKinney in the 2nd round. Don't think he's lights-out enough to spend a 1st rounder on. Unless, of course, we're picking real late in the first and it's almost a second rounder. :)

He could be a trade-up in the 2nd or trade down in the first kinda pick, though.

[red]

NO.

no 3-4 linemen in the first round. What a waste.

In fact. No d-lineman in the first 3 rounds

[smuggler]

Red, you are going to be SO disappointed on draft day. (Except ILB and OT may still be the pick.)

Came back to the thread to post that Todd Gurley tore his ACL. Tough break for the erstwhile 1st round RB.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Red, you are going to be SO disappointed on draft day. (Except ILB and OT may still be the pick.)

Came back to the thread to post that Todd Gurley tore his ACL. Tough break for the erstwhile 1st round RB.

With that and Gordon's record day, Gordon may have just shot up to be picked in the top 10 of the draft as he's the best RB out there now. He was projected around 20 or so.

[Joemailman]

With that and Gordon's record day, Gordon may have just shot up to be picked in the top 10 of the draft as he's the best RB out there now. He was projected around 20 or so.

The days of a RB being drafted in the Top 10 may be over. Unless of course teams think he has Adrian Peterson-type talent.

[smuggler]

Trent Richardson went #2 overall just 2 years back. It can still be done, but it's quite rare. Last season, no RBs were selected until midway through round 2.

[Joemailman]

Trent Richardson went #2 overall just 2 years back. It can still be done, but it's quite rare. Last season, no RBs were selected until midway through round 2.

Trent Richardson might be the reason it won't happen again.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Georgia is whipping unrankable Charleston Southern 21 - 0 with 5:10 to go in the 1st qtr.

This is not surprising. Northern is the real powerhouse in the Charleston Suburban area. :roll:

[Bretsky]

MELVIN GORDON

[Maxie the Taxi]

MELVIN GORDON

Speaking of Gordon, he only held the rushing record for one week. Some illegal alien from Oklahoma ran for 427 yards today.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Speaking of Gordon, he only held the rushing record for one week. Some illegal alien from Oklahoma ran for 427 yards today.

Ouch! Shouda let Gordon play the 4th quarter.

[smuggler]

He probably couldve secured it with one carry. Also, Gorson did it against Nebraska, right? How about the other guy?

[pbmax]

He probably couldve secured it with one carry. Also, Gorson did it against Nebraska, right? How about the other guy?

Kansas. I think it was the basketball team.

[Bretsky]

Speaking of Gordon, he only held the rushing record for one week. Some illegal alien from Oklahoma ran for 427 yards today.


it's too bad Gordon didn't play the 4th; even one more drive...in which clements ran off about 80yds. Melvin could have broken 500 had he played a bit more

stoops left his guy in qtr 4 to get the record.

[woodbuck27]

We should start on Rodgers replacement now.

He's playing into his 40's....I think.

[woodbuck27]

It's ok red, don't jump!
http://33.media.tumblr.com/ffabe3349dd670e6096d204b9f6caccf/tumblr_mrsrkn7pJC1qdx53qo1_1280.jpg

" Those are some nice shoes. "

[woodbuck27]

Speaking of Gordon, he only held the rushing record for one week. Some illegal alien from Oklahoma ran for 427 yards today.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11920257/samaje-perine-oklahoma-sooners-breaks-fbs-single-game-rushing-record


Samaje Perine breaks FBS record

Updated: November 23, 2014, 8:13 AM ET

" RB Samaje Perine eclipsed Melvin Gordon's single-game rushing record with 427 yards on 34 carries and scored 5 TD's in Oklahoma's 44-7 win over Kansas. "

[mraynrand]

Ouch! Shouda let Gordon play the 4th quarter.

That's what I was screaming at the TV. Run it up to 500+ yards I said. Coaches really have zero appreciation for records and history. They're typically so bound up, I bet they all need a full bottle of Metamucil on Mondays to get the pipes flowing again.

[mraynrand]

RB Samaje Perine eclipsed Melvin Gordon's single-game rushing record with 427 yards on 34 carries and scored 5 TD's in Oklahoma's 44-7 win over Kansas.

Samir, na-in-a, na-ina, not gonna work here anymore anyway....

http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/samir_office_space.jpg

[denverYooper]

Samir, na-in-a, na-ina, not gonna work here anymore anyway....

http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/samir_office_space.jpg

WHY DOES IT SAY PAPER JAM WHEN THERE IS NO PAPER JAM!!?!?

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000434871/article/rgiiis-benching-highlights-failures-of-2012-draft-class

RGIII's benching highlights failures of 2012 draft class

By Chris Wesseling ... Around the NFL Writer

Published: Nov. 26, 2014 at 09:03 p.m. ... Updated: Nov. 26, 2014 at 09:23 p.m.

" Griffin's spectacular fall from grace highlights the futility of the top of the 2012 NFL Draft.

The 2013 group isn't faring much better than its 2012 counterparts. Of the top dozen 2013 draft picks, Lions defensive end Ziggy Ansah (No. 5) is the lone player flashing star potential."

Please click on the LINK for the rest.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000434818/article/undrafted-stars-show-continued-devaluation-of-rbs

Undrafted stars show continued devaluation of RBs

By Chris Wesseling ... Around the NFL Writer

Published: Nov. 26, 2014 at 07:34 p.m. ... Updated: Nov. 26, 2014 at 08:25 p.m.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/an-early-look-at-the-nfl-draft-b99403379z1-284999721.html

Bob McGinn | On the Packers

An early look at the 2015 NFL Draft

GO PACK GO !

[call_me_ishmael]

I would like to see the Packers add a T, DL, MLB, WR, and TE in the draft. As usual, I want the DL as early as possible.

[woodbuck27]

If we needed a RB this man might be given serious consideration. Wait ... Ted picks BPA.:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448664/article/melvin-gordon-probably-the-best-back-in-wisconsin-history

Melvin Gordon 'probably the best back' in Wisconsin history

By: Mike Huguenin

College Football 24/7 writer

Published: Dec. 23, 2014 at 01:06 p.m.

[red]

Samir, na-in-a, na-ina, not gonna work here anymore anyway....

http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/samir_office_space.jpg


HAHAHA

PC load letter?, what the fuck is that?

[ptisme]

I would like to see the Packers add a T, DL, MLB, WR, and TE in the draft. As usual, I want the DL as early as possible.

If you can convince Clay to stay inside, I'd put OLB at the top of the list. By 2016 we will no longer have Peppers or Perry and may lose Neal as well…. I don't think we want to throw a rookie out there with no depth….

[Packman_26]

How about Shaq Thompson to play inside? SOB plays linebacker and running back. Causes turnovers, big hits. Appears to be an outstanding athlete that seems to find the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0di4jhpjcTQ

[woodbuck27]

[QUOTE=Packman_26;815842]How about Shaq Thompson to play inside? SOB plays linebacker and running back. Causes turnovers, big hits. Appears to be an outstanding athlete that seems to find the ball.

This fella is intriguing...a fine athlete. He might fit at Safety as well?

Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 228 lb (103 kg)

USA Today High School All-American (2011)

2x Honorable Mention All-Pac-12 (2012, 2013)[1]

Second-team Freshman All-American (2012)[2]

Hornung Award winner (2014)

First-team All-Pac-12 (2014)[3]

First-team AP All-American (2014)[4]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Thompson#Recruiting

[red]

Well, we have to seriously look at mlb's

Hawk and jones look like their time in green bay is over

Peppers doesn't have a lot left, and i seriously doubt we pay his large contract next season, so clay migt have to move back to olb

Barrington has been, ok, but not great

We need to find 2 starting ILBs in the draft and free agency imo, if we are gonna keep playing the 3-4

However if we switch to a 4-3 (god willing capers is gone), then we might only neec to find 1 mlb

[Joemailman]

[QUOTE=Packman_26;815842]How about Shaq Thompson to play inside? SOB plays linebacker and running back. Causes turnovers, big hits. Appears to be an outstanding athlete that seems to find the ball.

This fella is intriguing...a fine athlete. He might fit at Safety as well?

Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 228 lb (103 kg)

USA Today High School All-American (2011)

2x Honorable Mention All-Pac-12 (2012, 2013)[1]

Second-team Freshman All-American (2012)[2]

Hornung Award winner (2014)

First-team All-Pac-12 (2014)[3]

First-team AP All-American (2014)[4]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Thompson#Recruiting

Great player who will probably be drafted before the Packers pick. Especially because he'll probably have a great combine. Great overall athlete.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hawk and jones look like their time in green bay is over
I'd say Hawk may retire from NFL.
Jones has played well last couple games, good chance he'll stick as role player if he'll renegotiate

[Joemailman]

I'd say Hawk may retire from NFL.
Jones has played well last couple games, good chance he'll stick as role player if he'll renegotiate

Agree on both. Hawk looks done, although he's not all that old. Jones has played well in dime, but 3.75 million is too much for a guy in for 10 plays a game. I see no reason to think they won't continue to use Matthews at both ILB/OLB. I think moving him around has made him a better player. I also wouldn't give up on Bradford at ILB. He has a great motor. They just need to figure out if he has any instincts at ILB.

[Fritz]

By needs, of course it's one if not two ILB's, a playmaking TE (I see Rodgers as solid but no more), an OT, an OLB, mebbe two, and another defensive lineman if they think Kyrie Thornton is a washout.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Draft truism: The better the Pack does in the playoffs, the worse they do on draft day. This draft is deep in RB's but shallow in GB's areas of needs. I see no standout prospects at ILB or TE. Slam dunk OT's and DL prospects will be gone by time Pack drafts.

If Gurley or Gordon were still on the board when TT picks, would he pull the trigger?

[Maxie the Taxi]

If Gurley or Gordon were still on the board when TT picks, would he pull the trigger?

Or Sammie Coates?

[Joemailman]

CBSSports has in their top 100:

3 ILB's
11 CB's
13 DE's
8 DT's
8 OLB's
10 OT's
3 TE's
14 WR's

Not great news for people wanting the focus to be on ILB and TE. Still, you never know how things will fall n draft day.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Based upon their performance the last couple of games and possible expected good performances in the playoffs, I think TT's draft priorities may change in a somewhat surprising way.

ILB -- Barrington is showing me something. A solid performance in the playoffs may reduce the need to take a chance on guys like Denzel Perryman and Benardrick McKinney who IMO are far from sure bets. Moreover, Lattimore and Palmer are coming off injured reserve. Plus, I have a sneaking hunch Adrian Hubbard and/or Carl Bradford will shine next year.

TE -- Richard Rodgers might parlay a good playoff performance or two and be the type of TE none of us thought he could be. He's improving every game. I'm starting to like the guy very much. That coupled with a thin crop of TE prospects makes me think TT will draft in another direction.

OL/DL -- Our current OL is pretty good and young. We've got Aaron Adams, Barclay, Raji and Thornton coming off IR. Plus, a couple of rookie OLinemen on the practice squad. Who will be available in the draft at our position that promises to be better than any of these guys? And, considering TT's record in this area, will he take another flyer on a OL or DL prospect in the late 1st or 2nd round?

So, what will TT do?

I say he'll draft (everything else being equal) a WR. We need a dynamic 3rd WR (or a 2nd if something goes awry in Cobb re-signing. Boykin to me is a washout and Adams doesn't impress me as a game changer. Abbrederis is coming off IR, but he's not a game changer and lacks size. Then there are the same ole same ole guys on the practice squad, hardly game changers.

On the other hand, there are a bunch of game changing WR's available, one of which will probably fall to GB's draft position. My favorite: Sammie Coates (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824794/sammie-coates).

Add Coates to the threesome of Nelson, Cobb and Adams, with Abbrederis in the wings, and you've got the best and deepest receiving corps in the NFL once again.

[pbmax]

Should we have a separate thread for FA?

Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 2h2 hours ago
PHI unrestricted FA Brandon Graham is one to watch. Naturally more of a 4-3 defensive end, had nice year as 3-4 OLB after slow career start

Possible choice of Peppers or Perry doesn't come back.

[Smidgeon]

Based upon their performance the last couple of games and possible expected good performances in the playoffs, I think TT's draft priorities may change in a somewhat surprising way.

ILB -- Barrington is showing me something. A solid performance in the playoffs may reduce the need to take a chance on guys like Denzel Perryman and Benardrick McKinney who IMO are far from sure bets. Moreover, Lattimore and Palmer are coming off injured reserve. Plus, I have a sneaking hunch Adrian Hubbard and/or Carl Bradford will shine next year.

TE -- Richard Rodgers might parlay a good playoff performance or two and be the type of TE none of us thought he could be. He's improving every game. I'm starting to like the guy very much. That coupled with a thin crop of TE prospects makes me think TT will draft in another direction.

OL/DL -- Our current OL is pretty good and young. We've got Aaron Adams, Barclay, Raji and Thornton coming off IR. Plus, a couple of rookie OLinemen on the practice squad. Who will be available in the draft at our position that promises to be better than any of these guys? And, considering TT's record in this area, will he take another flyer on a OL or DL prospect in the late 1st or 2nd round?

So, what will TT do?

I say he'll draft (everything else being equal) a WR. We need a dynamic 3rd WR (or a 2nd if something goes awry in Cobb re-signing. Boykin to me is a washout and Adams doesn't impress me as a game changer. Abbrederis is coming off IR, but he's not a game changer and lacks size. Then there are the same ole same ole guys on the practice squad, hardly game changers.

On the other hand, there are a bunch of game changing WR's available, one of which will probably fall to GB's draft position. My favorite: Sammie Coates (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824794/sammie-coates).

Add Coates to the threesome of Nelson, Cobb and Adams, with Abbrederis in the wings, and you've got the best and deepest receiving corps in the NFL once again.

I think you're overselling both Barrington and R2. While they may develop, they aren't dependable or promising yet. They're serviceable, but may have a low ceiling. We'll see.

I also think you're underselling Adams as the third WR. He's flashed enough to show that once he gets his rookie jitters out of the way, he'll join TT's pantheon of successful WRs drafted in GB. Add in Abby and Janis, and WR may be an overwhelming strength in two years if one of those two pan out. We'll definitely see.

But the D needs way more help than the O at this point.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000407751/article/2015-nfl-draft-order-top-3-needs-for-all-32-teams

2015 NFL Draft order: Top 3 needs for all 32 teams

By Gil Brandt ... NFL Media senior analyst

Published: Dec. 29, 2014 at 12:39 a.m. ... Updated: Dec. 29, 2014 at 11:36 a.m

I'd like to see TT draft a WR and a RB as well.

We need a #4 WR and a solid backup for Eddie Lacy.

There's also some ? about the future of Randall Cobb in Green Bay. I hope that TT locks him up.

GO PACK GO !

[mraynrand]

Should we have a separate thread for FA?

Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 2h2 hours ago
PHI unrestricted FA Brandon Graham is one to watch. Naturally more of a 4-3 defensive end, had nice year as 3-4 OLB after slow career start

Possible choice of Peppers or Perry doesn't come back.

Wonder what Eliot thinks of him.


Currently the youngest pro personnel director in the NFL, Wolf's primary duties include scouting teams in the NFL and in-season advance scouting of upcoming Packers opponents. Wolf also is involved with college scouting during the season and is very active in the Packers draft.Wolf has also worked 22 consecutive Packers drafts (since 1993), and nine NFL scouting internships – five with the Packers, three with the Atlanta Falcons and one with the Seattle Seahawks. Wolf has attended 22 consecutive NFL scouting combines. Those internships and prior “unofficial” experiences have provided significant knowledge. Wolf, for example, is familiar with the history of every NFL player, having prepared details for the Packers for every draft since 1993.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think you're overselling both Barrington and R2. While they may develop, they aren't dependable or promising yet. They're serviceable, but may have a low ceiling. We'll see.

I also think you're underselling Adams as the third WR. He's flashed enough to show that once he gets his rookie jitters out of the way, he'll join TT's pantheon of successful WRs drafted in GB. Add in Abby and Janis, and WR may be an overwhelming strength in two years if one of those two pan out. We'll definitely see.

But the D needs way more help than the O at this point.

I discounted Janis because he's a huge mystery man/question mark. Hope you're right about Adams.

Regarding the defense, agreed defense, ILB especially, is a big need, but I really don't think there's any draftable prospect that's better than what we got. Too bad we missed out on CJ Mosley last year. Maybe a good DE/DT will slip down to us.

[Joemailman]

Mariota (Oregon) vs. Winston (Florida St. tomorrow. Battle to be the #1 pick?

[Joemailman]

Top 50 prospects based on CBS Sports who will be playing in Bowl games the next few days. Do your homework!

(1) Marcus Mariota - QB - Oregon vs. Florida St.
(3) Jameis Winston - QB - Florida St. vs. Oregon
(5) Amari Cooper - WR - Alabama vs. Ohio St.
(6) Brandon Scherf - OT - Iowa vs. Tennessee
(7) Lanson Collins - SS - Alabama vs. Ohio St.
(8) Shane Ray - DE - Missouri vs. Minnesota
(12) Shawn Oakman - DE - Baylor vs. Michigan St.
(16) Trae Waynes - CB - Michigan St. vs. Baylor
(21) Eddie Goldman - DT - Florida St. vs. Oregon
(24) Benardrick McKinney - ILB - Mississippi St. vs. Georgia Tech
(27) Shilique Calhoun - CB - Michigan St. vs. Baylor
(28) Ifo Ekpre-Olomu - CB - Oregon vs. Florida St.
(29) Melvin Gordon - RB - Wisconsin vs. Auburn
(35) P.J. Williams - CB - Florida St. vs. Oregon
(37) Michael Bennett - DT - Ohio St. vs. Alabama
(39) Cameron Irving - C - Florida St. vs. Oregon
(40) Sammie Coates - WR - Auburn vs. Wisconsin
(45) Arik Armstead - DE - Oregon vs. Florida St.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ILB -- Barrington is showing me something. A solid performance in the playoffs may reduce the need

I'm unthrilled by Barrington. He's OK, but low ceiling due to lack of speed/quickness. I don't base that opinion on a lot, but that is my impression. He reminds me of Desmond Bishop, a good run stuffer. Not sure Barrington will be that good.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I'm unthrilled by Barrington. He's OK, but low ceiling due to lack of speed/quickness. I don't base that opinion on a lot, but that is my impression. He reminds me of Desmond Bishop, a good run stuffer. Not sure Barrington will be that good.

What's your credible intuition about draft prospects that could take his place?

[Harlan Huckleby]

They should draft Marcus Trotter's twin brother, Michael. He hasn't played a lot, but I got a good feeling about the guy.

[Maxie the Taxi]

They should draft Marcus Trotter's twin brother, Michael. He hasn't played a lot, but I got a good feeling about the guy.

I'll keep my eye on him tomorrow. What side of the bench does he usually occupy?:-)

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'll keep my eye on him tomorrow. What side of the bench does he usually occupy?:-)

He usually sits next to his identical twin brother, no kidding. Funny thing is that Michael was recruited, Marcus came along for ride, and Marcus ended up being the stud.

When Marcus filled-in for Borland last year, the D didn't miss a beat.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Harlan, tune in the Sugar Bowl on ESPN. It's starting in a few minutes. The number one rated ILB in the draft, Benardrick McKinney, is playing for Mississippi State. Now is the time to hone that intuition.

[Maxie the Taxi]

McKinney showed me nothing in the 1st half. He closed fast on a RB going wide on one play, but that's the extent of it.

He's 6'5", 250 lbs. His scouting report from CBS Sports:


STRENGTHS: Value lies with his versatility and raw athleticism. He lines up all over the field for the Bulldogs, taking snaps at middle linebacker, as well as rushing off either edge. His athleticism has been well documented, with McKinney reportedly clocking in the 4.5s and posting a 34-inch vertical jump at 245 pounds. At his best with the ballcarrier in front of him, where he can use his physical demeanor and battle the big bodies, taking on blocks with active hands and long arms to control the point of attack.
He is a well-built and fluid athlete for his size, showing good lateral agility and very impressive acceleration to track down ballcarriers from behind. He has long arms and good hand-eye coordination to trip up ballcarriers that appear out of his reach and breaks down well in the open field to deliver strong, wrap-up tackles.
WEAKNESSES: Overly reliant on his speed when rushing the quarterback, showing limited hand technique to defeat blocks once engaged. This issue comes into play not only when rushing the passer but also against the run, where McKinney looks to slip past blockers, rather than showing the aggression and strength to truly stack and shed.

Not a sudden mover and lacks ideal range, causing him to struggle with cover responsibilities, and although he's a smart player, he can be late to recognize plays and ends up a step late to the action. Too often McKinney is forced to turn away from the quarterback and sprint to his coverage responsibility. With his back turned to the action, McKinney isn't in position to help should the quarterback scramble or dump off to another target.
IN OUR VIEW: McKinney bis an impressive athlete for a man his size, but while he's a stout run defender, he isn't as consistent in space. There is a lot to like about McKinney, but there are some concerns that his struggles against the pass will limit him to a two-down thumper role in the NFL.
--Dane Brugler and Rob Rang (11/13/14)

From what I saw the report seems accurate. McKinney doesn't seem quick. He has a difficult time disengaging from blocks. At the end of the half on 3rd and 1 he tried to stuff a run and was pancaked. I'm not seeing a first round draft pick.

[Joemailman]

They're getting run over so bad I think it's hard to judge individual players. I remember Haloti Ngata having an unimpressive Bowl game performance.

[Maxie the Taxi]

They're getting run over so bad I think it's hard to judge individual players. I remember Haloti Ngata having an unimpressive Bowl game performance.

Agreed, but at the same time he showed nothing all game long. He was slow to react and always late to the action. I think he'll slip down the draft list to maybe a mid or low 2nd round by draft day. I've seen Denzel Perryman play a few times down here and he's quick to the ball. He lacks height though and elite speed. He's kind of Borland-like. Perryman might be worth a 2nd rnd choice.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Agreed, but at the same time he showed nothing all game long. He was slow to react and always late to the action. I think he'll slip down the draft list to maybe a mid or low 2nd round by draft day. I've seen Denzel Perryman play a few times down here and he's quick to the ball. He lacks height though and elite speed. He's kind of Borland-like. Perryman might be worth a 2nd rnd choice.

I think we just found ourselves an ILB in the draft: Steve Miller, Ohio State, 6'3", 255 lbs. Just intercepted Alabama pass and ran it back for a TD.

[pbmax]

I think we just found ourselves an ILB in the draft: Steve Miller, Ohio State, 6'3", 255 lbs. Just intercepted Alabama pass and ran it back for a TD.

No kidding. That guy had two huge plays. How hard can it be to convert a 4-3 DE to ILB?

[Maxie the Taxi]

No kidding. That guy had two huge plays. How hard can it be to convert a 4-3 DE to ILB?

He'd be cheap too. Most draft boards have him listed as an undrafted free agent.

[QBME]

No kidding. That guy had two huge plays. How hard can it be to convert a 4-3 DE to ILB?

My guess is you'll be able to pick up Shea McClellin pretty soon for next to nothing and find out.

[mraynrand]

My guess is you'll be able to pick up Shea McClellin pretty soon for next to nothing and find out.

It's the guy next to McClellin who you pick up who is next to nothing, if you get my drift.

[smuggler]

Bernardrick McKinney, Denzel Perryman, Eric Kendricks, Ramik Wilson

McKinney (1st) and Kendricks (2nd-3rd) are both 6'2" or better. McKinney is the hardest hitter of the bunch, but also the heftiest and might be the least agile.

Perryman (2nd) and Wilson (3rd-5th) - I believe Perryman is just under 6'0", while Wilson just over. Something about Wilson just screams 4th round steal to me, but we've tried that before to no avail.

[smuggler]

First Mock:



1 - Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
2 - Ellis McCarthy, DT, UCLA
3 - Eric Kendricks, LB, UCLA
4 - Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers
5 - Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma
5c (James Jones) - Brandon Bridge, QB, Southern Alabama
5c (Evan Deitrich-Smith) - Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama
6 - Damian Swann, CB, Georgia
7 - Kasen Williams, WR, Rice

Second (current) Mock:

2t - OT T.J. CLEMMINGS, PITT
2 - LB DENZEL PERRYMAN, MIAMI
3t - FS CODY PREWITT, OLE MISS
3 - LB ERIC KENDRICKS, UCLA
4 - TE TYLER KROFT, RUTGERS
5 - CB BERNARD BLAKE, COLORADO STATE
5* - WR DRES ANDERSON, UTAH
5* - QB BRANDON BRIDGE, SOUTH ALABAMA
6 - DL BRANDON IVORY, ALABAMA
7 - WR KASEN WILLIAMS, WASHINGTON

t Trade
* Compensatory

[Maxie the Taxi]

Four of the best defensive draft prospects will play in the Cactus Bowl, scheduled to start at 9:15 PM. Washington vs Oklahoma State on ESPN.

Shaq Thompson (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2001231/shaq-thompson), Danny Shelton (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1884455/danny-shelton), Marcus Peters (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1884451/marcus-peters), and Hauoli Kikaha (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1785852/hauoli-kikaha) all play for Washington. Thompson, 6'2' 231, is the number one rated OLB in the draft. Shelton, 6'2" 332, is the number two rated DT. Peters, 6'0" 198, is the number three rated CB. Kikaha, 6'3" 250, is the fifth rated OLB and one of the best pass rushers in the country. Kikaha has 18 sacks this year. Kikaha's favorite NFL player is the Claymaker!

[Maxie the Taxi]

Oops. Marcus Peters won't play for the Huskies tonight. He got kicked off the team in November. Scouts compare him to Aqib Talib, but he obviously has off field problems.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Danny Shelton is one, fat human being. Scouting report says he's built like a Coke machine...Yeah, right, maybe a pregnant Coke machine.

[smuggler]

I read online tonight that Oakman wants to return to Baylor in 2015. We'll see if his story changes come draft time, or once the advisory board has told him he's pretty much a lock in the 1st round.

[woodbuck27]

The latest Draft Scout Mock Draft.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24920814/nfl-mock-draft-mariota-the-favorite-to-land-no-1-in-tampa


2015 NFL Mock Draft: Mariota the favorite to land No. 1 in Tampa

By: Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst

December 28, 2014 11:32 pm ET

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't think TT will draft McKinney. The guy is big and slow. We need someone quick and fast in that spot. I still think TT will go WR. ...So much will change between now and April.

[woodbuck27]

I don't think TT will draft McKinney. The guy is big and slow. We need someone quick and fast in that spot. I still think TT will go WR. ...So much will change between now and April.

That TT has to retain some of his own is his highest priority right now.

In reference to your post that means signing Randall Cobb. I hope he loves it in Green Bay. :???:

[Fritz]

I think we just found ourselves an ILB in the draft: Steve Miller, Ohio State, 6'3", 255 lbs. Just intercepted Alabama pass and ran it back for a TD.

I heard he can fly like an eagle, that Steve Miller.

[mraynrand]

I heard he can fly like an eagle, that Steve Miller.

you missed some good times:

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?27480-Ohio-State-DE-Steve-Miller-predicted-his-Sugar-Bowl-interception

[smuggler]

If the Packers want a player in the vein of Woodson or (perhaps) Cam Chancellor, they may consider Shaq Tompson (LB/S/RB) from Washington. He's so, so quick. And versatile. But, he's not the kind of guy you plug into a spot and just go. You'd need to scheme to him a bit. Considering how we used Chuck, and how we have gone more multi in this year, I think we might consider it. The other thing is, like a lot of players, it's quite possible he doesn't last to the end of the first round.

The best immediate result, I would think, would be improved coverage on tight ends...

[woodbuck27]

Just as a heads up on a player that TT wouldn't touch:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/06/dorial-green-beckham-big-time-talent-with-risks-enters-the-draft/

(WR) Dorial Green-Beckham, big-time talent with risks, enters the draft

http://www.mutigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/dorial_green_beckham_807735.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorial_Green-Beckham#College_career

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/531380/dorial-green-beckham

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dorial-green-beckham-1.html

[smuggler]

Yep. He's not getting a sniff from Theodore.

[Joemailman]

If the Packers want a player in the vein of Woodson or (perhaps) Cam Chancellor, they may consider Shaq Tompson (LB/S/RB) from Washington. He's so, so quick. And versatile. But, he's not the kind of guy you plug into a spot and just go. You'd need to scheme to him a bit. Considering how we used Chuck, and how we have gone more multi in this year, I think we might consider it. The other thing is, like a lot of players, it's quite possible he doesn't last to the end of the first round.

The best immediate result, I would think, would be improved coverage on tight ends...

It's early, but the current rankings would indicate Thompson won't be available when the Packers pick. He's just too dynamic a playmaker to last that long. Some teams might pass on him because they're not sure where to play him, but not enough for the Packers to have a shot.

[smuggler]

I have seen him mocked anywhere from 8 overall to early 2nd round. Based on the math, he probably won't last to 32 overall. :)

[smuggler]

First Mock:

1 - Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
2 - Ellis McCarthy, DT, UCLA
3 - Eric Kendricks, LB, UCLA
4 - Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers
5 - Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma
5c (James Jones) - Brandon Bridge, QB, Southern Alabama
5c (Evan Deitrich-Smith) - Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama
6 - Damian Swann, CB, Georgia
7 - Kasen Williams, WR, Rice

Second Mock:

2t - OT T.J. CLEMMINGS, PITT
2 - LB DENZEL PERRYMAN, MIAMI
3t - FS CODY PREWITT, OLE MISS
3 - LB ERIC KENDRICKS, UCLA
4 - TE TYLER KROFT, RUTGERS
5 - CB BERNARD BLAKE, COLORADO STATE
5* - WR DRES ANDERSON, UTAH
5* - QB BRANDON BRIDGE, SOUTH ALABAMA
6 - DL BRANDON IVORY, ALABAMA
7 - WR KASEN WILLIAMS, WASHINGTON

t Trade
* Compensatory

2t - ALVIN DUPREE, DE, KENTUCKY
2 - ERIC KENDRICKS, ILB, UCLA
3t - SAMMIE COATES, WR, AUBURN
3x - TODD GURLEY, RB, GEORGIA
4x - IFO EKPRE-OLOMU, CB, OREGON
5 - XAVIER COOPER, DT, WASHINGTON STATE
5* - BEN KOYACK, TE, NOTRE DAME
5* - TYLER KROFT, TE, RUTGERS
6 - LADARIUS GUNTER, CB, MIAMI
7 - BRANDON BRIDGE, QB, SOUTH ALABAMA

t Trade
* Compensatory
x Injured

While you silly bastards quibble about the Seachickies, I'm thinking toward the FUTURE!! This draft, I take two prospects with injuries that cause them to fall. They'd both likely be redshirted in 2015, but could potentially be great values if they return to form.

[woodbuck27]

This guy will be available in mid Feb. '15. Chris Carter's son who played 2013-14 in the CFL with the Montreal Alouettes.

http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/cfl/players/player40369.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2326882-why-the-minnesota-vikings-need-to-sign-wr-duron-carter?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=minnesota-Vikings

6 ' - 5 " - 205 lbs ... WR Duron Carter - Florida Atlantic

[woodbuck27]

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_27326496/vikings-take-louisville-receiver-devante-parker-mel-kipers

Mel Kiper's first mock draft

By: Kevin Cusick

Posted: 01/15/2015 12:01:00 AM CST | Updated: a day ago


" -- The Packers will take Florida State defensive tackle Eddie Goldman with the No. 30 pick.

That's Kiper's subtle way of predicting Green Bay will lose to Seattle in Sunday's NFC championship game. "

[wist43]

Do we draft 30th??

[wist43]

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_27326496/vikings-take-louisville-receiver-devante-parker-mel-kipers

Mel Kiper's first mock draft

By: Kevin Cusick

Posted: 01/15/2015 12:01:00 AM CST | Updated: a day ago


" -- The Packers will take Florida State defensive tackle Eddie Goldman with the No. 30 pick.

That's Kiper's subtle way of predicting Green Bay will lose to Seattle in Sunday's NFC championship game. "

lol... didn't see ur post woody when I asked if we're 30th... guess we are :)

[woodbuck27]

lol... didn't see ur post woody when I asked if we're 30th... guess we are :)

Mel Kipper Jr. thinks we'll pick at the NO. 30 spot.

[wist43]

Mel Kipper Jr. thinks we'll pick at the NO. 30 spot.

Pretty sure we're going to lose - so I think that's a safe bet...

[woodbuck27]

Pretty sure we're going to lose - so I think that's a safe bet...

I find it difficult to bet against Aaron Rodgers.

[smuggler]

Stop threadshitting, wist. The purpose of discussion here is not to speculate about which draft slot we will have after tomorrow. We're all eminently capable of waiting the 17 hours it will take to know for sure, so GTFO of this thread if you can't contribute.

[Joemailman]

30th it is. Last time Packers picked 30th was 1997 with Ross Verba. Also Tom Cichowski in 1966, Gordie Soltau im 1950.

[Joemailman]

Feel bad for the Packers personnel guys and coaches. Players can just get away from football for a few months if they want. But TT and company have to start preparing for the draft and free agency. Senior Bowl is next Saturday. I would be finding it difficult to get motivated.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Rankings, Draft position and scouting reports here (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/all)and here (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:qb/dt-by-team-input:gb).

1. Eddie Goldman DT, Florida State
I saw this guy play many times at FSU. One of the best run stuffers in the draft. Rated consensus "instant starter" by scouts.
"His power at the point of attack and ability to discard blockers and actually make plays rather than just eating space will have 3-4 teams very excited about their potential nose guard of the future. However, his lack of pass-rushing prowess could limit just how high he rises on draft boards."
Others I haven't seen play that may be available: Malcom Brown, Jordan Phillips

2. Paul Dawson OLB/ILB, TCU
I haven't seen this guy play, but he may be the best LB in this draft. He's rated an "instant starter" and may fall to us because some scouts worry about his intangibles.
"Always plays downhill, attacking line of scrimmage. Second-level ghost who is a nightmare for offensive linemen to engage. Instantly unlocks hips and bursts to chase outside. Smooth lateral movement with ability to change direction and mirror running back into the hole. Gets skinny and slips blocks. When blocked, doesn't stay wired to blocks. Chases sideline to sideline. Excels in pass coverage, allowing just 35.7 percent of passes against him to be completed. Tough play demeanor. Plays hard and practices hard."

3. Jesse James TE, Penn State
I've watched film on this guy. At 6'7" 254 lbs. he plays like a man among boys on the field. Anybody here seen him play? Can he be our version of "Gronk?"
"A true junior, James leaves Penn State with 11 career touchdown receptions, breaking a tie with College Football Hall of Fame inductee Ted Kwalick against Maryland this past November for the school record by a tight end. - Penn State football."

4. Tyler Lockette WR/Returner, Kansas State
I watched this guy in the Alamo Bowl put his team on his back and almost beat UCLA. 13 catches; 164 yds; 2 TD's; 2 kick returns; and 2 punt returns. He reminds me of Greg Jennings. Scouts say he's undersized at 5"10" 181 lbs. I say his size is why he'll fall to us and make our kick return game fearsome. He's a deep threat and slot insurance for Cobb.
"Intelligent player on field who has clearly learned from his father. Nuanced route runner with ability to sell. Will vary route speed and is proficient with double moves. Scouts say his personal character and football character are top-notch. Has a knack for making explosive plays as a receiver and return man. Steps up his game when matched up against top competition across from him. Likes to block."

5. Sean Mannion QB, Oregon State
I don't know much about this guy except he's 6'6" and 229 lbs. and that his scouting report is impressive. A year or two learning under Arod and we might have something.
"When he feels secure in the pocket and has the time to step into his throws correctly, Mannion's touch on intermediate and vertical passes is as impressive as any quarterback in the country. He lofts the ball with perfect trajectory over the shoulder of his receivers and allows them to go get it, demonstrating pinpoint accuracy to lead his target away from defenders. Mannion has an easy, natural throwing motion and he's well-versed in coach Mike Riley's pro-style offense, which asks him to take snaps from under center as well as from the gun. While he can drive the ball when needed, it cruises, rather than explodes out of his hand."

5c. Rob Havenstein OT Wisconsin
We all know this guy. Why not?

5c. Josh Robinson RB, Mississippi State
I've seen this guy many times play in the SEC down here against top notch competition. He reminds me of Emmitt Smith, believe it or not. He's a one cut RB with power and shake and bake. Plus, he can catch the ball with the rest of them. He's not a speed merchant. At 5'9" and 215 lbs. he may last until the 5th round.
Film is on YouTube.

6. Jordan Taylor WR, Rice
Don't know him from Adam, but he's 6'5" 204 lbs. and another red zone target for Arod.

7. Kyle Loomis P, Portland State
Best punter in the country...and it looks like our punter needs competition.

c - Compensatory

[ThunderDan]

Rankings, Draft position and scouting reports here (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/all)and here (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:qb/dt-by-team-input:gb).

1. Eddie Goldman DT, Florida State
I saw this guy play many times at FSU. One of the best run stuffers in the draft. Rated consensus "instant starter" by scouts.
"His power at the point of attack and ability to discard blockers and actually make plays rather than just eating space will have 3-4 teams very excited about their potential nose guard of the future. However, his lack of pass-rushing prowess could limit just how high he rises on draft boards."
Others I haven't seen play that may be available: Malcom Brown, Jordan Phillips

2. Paul Dawson OLB/ILB, TCU
I haven't seen this guy play, but he may be the best LB in this draft. He's rated an "instant starter" and may fall to us because some scouts worry about his intangibles.
"Always plays downhill, attacking line of scrimmage. Second-level ghost who is a nightmare for offensive linemen to engage. Instantly unlocks hips and bursts to chase outside. Smooth lateral movement with ability to change direction and mirror running back into the hole. Gets skinny and slips blocks. When blocked, doesn't stay wired to blocks. Chases sideline to sideline. Excels in pass coverage, allowing just 35.7 percent of passes against him to be completed. Tough play demeanor. Plays hard and practices hard."

3. Jesse James TE, Penn State
I've watched film on this guy. At 6'7" 254 lbs. he plays like a man among boys on the field. Anybody here seen him play? Can he be our version of "Gronk?"
"A true junior, James leaves Penn State with 11 career touchdown receptions, breaking a tie with College Football Hall of Fame inductee Ted Kwalick against Maryland this past November for the school record by a tight end. - Penn State football."

4. Tyler Lockette WR/Returner, Kansas State
I watched this guy in the Alamo Bowl put his team on his back and almost beat UCLA. 13 catches; 164 yds; 2 TD's; 2 kick returns; and 2 punt returns. He reminds me of Greg Jennings. Scouts say he's undersized at 5"10" 181 lbs. I say his size is why he'll fall to us and make our kick return game fearsome. He's a deep threat and slot insurance for Cobb.
"Intelligent player on field who has clearly learned from his father. Nuanced route runner with ability to sell. Will vary route speed and is proficient with double moves. Scouts say his personal character and football character are top-notch. Has a knack for making explosive plays as a receiver and return man. Steps up his game when matched up against top competition across from him. Likes to block."

5. Sean Mannion QB, Oregon State
I don't know much about this guy except he's 6'6" and 229 lbs. and that his scouting report is impressive. A year or two learning under Arod and we might have something.
"When he feels secure in the pocket and has the time to step into his throws correctly, Mannion's touch on intermediate and vertical passes is as impressive as any quarterback in the country. He lofts the ball with perfect trajectory over the shoulder of his receivers and allows them to go get it, demonstrating pinpoint accuracy to lead his target away from defenders. Mannion has an easy, natural throwing motion and he's well-versed in coach Mike Riley's pro-style offense, which asks him to take snaps from under center as well as from the gun. While he can drive the ball when needed, it cruises, rather than explodes out of his hand."

5c. Rob Havenstein OT Wisconsin
We all know this guy. Why not?

5c. Josh Robinson RB, Mississippi State
I've seen this guy many times play in the SEC down here against top notch competition. He reminds me of Emmitt Smith, believe it or not. He's a one cut RB with power and shake and bake. Plus, he can catch the ball with the rest of them. He's not a speed merchant. At 5'9" and 215 lbs. he may last until the 5th round.
Film is on YouTube.

6. Jordan Taylor WR, Rice
Don't know him from Adam, but he's 6'5" 204 lbs. and another red zone target for Arod.

7. Kyle Loomis P, Portland State
Best punter in the country...and it looks like our punter needs competition.

c - Compensatory

Excellent work Maxie.

The only thing I would change is trying to trade up into the 4th round to make sure we draft Loomis! :-)

[Maxie the Taxi]

Excellent work Maxie.

The only thing I would change is trying to trade up into the 4th round to make sure we draft Loomis! :-)
Thanks. Loomis is playing in today's Senior Bowl.

[Freak Out]

Do we need another pass catching TE? I'd say yes. Who fits that mold in this draft?

[Freak Out]

BTW...I hate the Domers so have never seen Jesse James...tempted to draft him just for the name.

[Freak Out]

Forget all that....I'm drunk and can't read any longer.

[mraynrand]

Unless Thompson wants to stick with blue chip TE Brandon Bostick, He could get Finley clone Funchess in the late first (some projecting him as going to Patsies as WR at 6'5", 230lbs) or could take a flyer on sophomore redshirt Maxx Williams (6'4", 250). Not sure where Maxx will be projected or if it's accurate at all.

[KYPack]

Great work, Maxie.

I get all my draft knowledge from the PR wish list thread, so this is a great 1st salvo.

[pbmax]

ok guys, so it looks like we're gonna have the top pick in next years draft

who are the top guys to watch out for?

i guess it'll all depend on who the coaches are

i would personally like a tough, mean, nasty defender

Has to be among my favorite posts ever. Team was 1-1 after a struggle with the Jets.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Unless Thompson wants to stick with blue chip TE Brandon Bostick, He could get Finley clone Funchess in the late first (some projecting him as going to Patsies as WR at 6'5", 230lbs) or could take a flyer on sophomore redshirt Maxx Williams (6'4", 250). Not sure where Maxx will be projected or if it's accurate at all.

Funchess was my original guy, but the rap on him is that he drops too many, which reminded me too much of Finley. Have you seen him play?

I watched film of Jesse James and he was pretty darn Finley like.

After watching the Senior Bowl, I'm kinda drifting toward Nick Boyle. He's 6'6" and 270 lbs. He runs well and has fairly good hands.

I haven't seen Maxx Williams play, but he might require a 1st round pick to get. Don't know if I want him that bad.

[red]

Has to be among my favorite posts ever. Team was 1-1 after a struggle with the Jets.

i almost nailed it

[red]

the sad thing is that we desperately need an ILB

problem is, there isn't much in the draft. one guys too small, and the other has never covered anyone

and then of course there isn't much talent in free agency either

i think i'd like to drop capers and switch to a 4-3, we just don't have the bodies to play 3-4 and it doesn't look like we're gonna be able to find any outside the team either

and while we're at it, get rid of the fucking zone coverage bullshit that leaves 15 yard holes all over the field

[Bretsky]

Chris Borland be ok at this point

[Maxie the Taxi]

the sad thing is that we desperately need an ILB

problem is, there isn't much in the draft. one guys too small, and the other has never covered anyone

and then of course there isn't much talent in free agency either

i think i'd like to drop capers and switch to a 4-3, we just don't have the bodies to play 3-4 and it doesn't look like we're gonna be able to find any outside the team either

and while we're at it, get rid of the fucking zone coverage bullshit that leaves 15 yard holes all over the field

I like what I saw of Lorenzo Mauldin in the Senior Bowl. He's listed at 6'4" 252 lbs. He was covering guys all over the field. He looked very agile for his size. I think Paul Dawson is the real deal too. He's 6'2" 230 lbs. Dawson is projected as a 2nd rounder, but his stock is climbing. Mauldin is project at a 3-4 round pick.

Size is relative. You can be big and slow, physically and football IQ wise. I'll take Dawson's size if it means speed. I'm sick of seeing TE's outrun our LB's!


This is what I like most about Mauldin: http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1851278.jpg Looks the part of a brawler, doesn't he? :-)

[Maxie the Taxi]

You tube of Jesse James in action. Keep in mind this guy is 6'7" 254 lbs. Note quickness turning the corner, playt starts at about the 1:04 mark...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg7nTsBWZNg

[Maxie the Taxi]

This is what drives me nuts about scouting reports...

On PAUL DAWSON, LB, TCU...

From NFL DRAFT SCOUT.COM:
"...Tackles low, wrapping ball-carriers securely...shows only average strength and technique to disengage from blockers once they've latched on."

From the same web page:
"...Dawson is a reliable open-field tackler who hits ball-carriers in their legs and wraps securely..."

From NFL Draft Tracker:
"...Not a wrap-up tackler...When blocked, doesn't stay wired to blocks..."

This is why I like prospects I've seen play with my own eyes.

Plus, it's why Ted Thompson knows what he's doing, and I don't!:-)

[mraynrand]

Funchess was my original guy, but the rap on him is that he drops too many, which reminded me too much of Finley. Have you seen him play?

I watched film of Jesse James and he was pretty darn Finley like.

After watching the Senior Bowl, I'm kinda drifting toward Nick Boyle. He's 6'6" and 270 lbs. He runs well and has fairly good hands.

I haven't seen Maxx Williams play, but he might require a 1st round pick to get. Don't know if I want him that bad.

Funchess really seems like the Finley clone, in every way you think of Finley. Great talent, head case. Didn't see Boyle, James seemed just OK to me.

I can't talk about Williams in an unbiased manner. He looks like the real deal, but how do you really tell with an offense so dedicated to running the ball. Character-wise, he's what the Packers want. He will be solid. Won't go after the ball when he should be blocking. Will know the playbook before camp - a Cobb type - just loves to play football.

[smuggler]

I think a Witten clone is more desirable than a deep threat. The kid from Miami or ND could possibly be that type.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2015/2/3/7967899/packers-mock-draft-green-bay-addresses-2-areas-on-defense

Packers mock draft: Green Bay addresses 2 areas on defense

By: Jason B. Hirschhorn  @by_JBH on Feb 3 2015, 9:00 AM

[woodbuck27]

I like what I saw of Lorenzo Mauldin in the Senior Bowl. He's listed at 6'4" 252 lbs. He was covering guys all over the field. He looked very agile for his size. I think Paul Dawson is the real deal too. He's 6'2" 230 lbs. Dawson is projected as a 2nd rounder, but his stock is climbing. Mauldin is project at a 3-4 round pick.

Size is relative. You can be big and slow, physically and football IQ wise. I'll take Dawson's size if it means speed. I'm sick of seeing TE's outrun our LB's!


This is what I like most about Mauldin: http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1851278.jpg Looks the part of a brawler, doesn't he? :-)

Those LBers are named AJ Hawk and Brad Jones = S L O W.

[smuggler]

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2015/2/3/7967899/packers-mock-draft-green-bay-addresses-2-areas-on-defense

Packers mock draft: Green Bay addresses 2 areas on defense

By: Jason B. Hirschhorn  @by_JBH on Feb 3 2015, 9:00 AM

In this guy's draft, he has Shaq Thompson out of the top 50 (lol). If Thompson drops from the top 15, I'd be surprised.

[Maxie the Taxi]

In this guy's draft, he has Shaq Thompson out of the top 50 (lol). If Thompson drops from the top 15, I'd be surprised.

If the picks fell as this guy projects, I'd be disappointed. IMO Bernardrick McKinney is over-rated and slow as molasses. Combine results will tell the story.

Also, Kikaha is listed at 6'3" 246 lbs and projected as an OLB in the NFL.

If the guy is looking for the Pack to draft a DL-man Carl Davis and Arik Armstead are available on his own board instead of McKinney.

[Joemailman]

In this guy's draft, he has Shaq Thompson out of the top 50 (lol). If Thompson drops from the top 15, I'd be surprised.

Some might be downgrading him due to lack of size, and he probably doesn't have the frame to gain much weight. Still, he's an explosive player who will probably impress at the Combine. Three mocks at CBSSportsline have him going no later than 21.

[pbmax]

3 comp picks for the Packers, 2-6th rounder (EDS, James Jones) and a 1-7th rounder (Marshall Newhouse). CJ Wilson would qualify but he is not among the Top 32 losses and doesn't get a pick.

http://overthecap.com/projecting-the-compensatory-draft-picks-for-2015/

[smuggler]

Last year, all the typical projections undervalued a lot of the picks. Hopefully we still get 5ths for EDS and especially JJ.

[smuggler]

One of my favorite later-round players is LB Ramik Wilson from Georgia. He's not a physical freak, but he's goodgot good tools and is oozing with instinct. I could see him as this year's version of what's his face from Wisconsin. Sans the injury history. We would get him with a 4th, and possibly with a 5th.

[Joemailman]

One of my favorite later-round players is LB Ramik Wilson from Georgia. He's not a physical freak, but he's goodgot good tools and is oozing with instinct. I could see him as this year's version of what's his face from Wisconsin. Sans the injury history. We would get him with a 4th, and possibly with a 5th.

Yes. I've had my eye on him too. I don't think there's value at the ILB position early, but he would be a good 4th round pick. Because of the weakness of the ILB position in this draft, he won't last past the 4th if that.

[woodbuck27]

http://lombardiave.com/2015/02/06/green-bay-packers-draft-prospect-nick-oleary/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=RecentPosts

Green Bay Packers draft prospect: Nick O'Leary

BY: Josh McPeak 12h ago

** During his final season for the Seminoles. The consensus All-American would also take home the John Mackey Award - the most outstanding tight end in the country.

** He set the career receptions mark for a tight end at Florida State with 114 receptions.

** While at FSU, Nick O’Leary was part of a National Championship winning team as well as three consecutive Atlantic Coast Conference championships. He is no stranger to success or to big games."

** If he's drafted he might go a long way toward solving the Packers poor Red Zone performance.


Comment woodbuck27:

As an added bonus for his NFL QB.

If Nick O'Leary is drafted then maybe Aaron Rodgers would meet the Golden Bear and maybe play golf with him.

[Carolina_Packer]

Remember the name Jean Sifrin when watching the NFL Scouting Combine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCN-C9jPyDQ

Massachusetts tight end Jean Sifrin is another who has not taken a normal route to the combine.

Sifrin -- who was born in the Bahamas -- is 27 years old. He played basketball and football at powerhouse Miami Norland -- other former Norland players in this draft include Miami tailback Duke Johnson and UM offensive tackle Ereck Flowers, and Pittsburgh Steelers star Antonio Brown is another ex-Norland player - but dropped out in 2005, his senior year, to work.

He eventually received his GED and decided he wanted to give college a try. He attended two junior colleges, one in New York and one in California; UMass found him at El Camino CC in California, where he played the 2013 season.

Sifrin had 42 receptions for 642 yards (15.3 yards per catch) and six TDs this past season at UMass; he then decided to enter the draft a year early.

He was listed at 6-foot-7 and 250 pounds by UMass, and for a guy that big, he moves well and is surprisingly agile. While raw, he has good hands and put up solid stats in UMass' pass-happy offense (the Minutemen coach is former NFL assistant Mark Whipple).

The above is from an article on NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000469174/article/nfl-scouting-combine-undertheradar-storylines-to-watch

Somewhere else I read that he runs a 4.6 40 yard dash, which is pretty good for a 6-7, 250 pound guy. That one catch in the end zone is pretty sweet. He is 27, though.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/291103901.html

Comment woodbuck27:

This article is about the cornerback position and what is necessary to be good or respected at this vital position in a passing game. The article will inform you of available draft prospects.

CB Tramon Williams 31 years old is a UFA and had a CAP hit of $9.5M$ in 2014. CB Davon House and Jarrett Bush CB'/ST's are also Free Agents.

The team cannot have enough good CB's and no doubt Ted Thompson will address this position in the Off Season

[Pugger]

I think a Witten clone is more desirable than a deep threat. The kid from Miami or ND could possibly be that type.

If we aren't looking for a deep threat TE then we'll prob stick with RichRod.

[Pugger]

One of my favorite later-round players is LB Ramik Wilson from Georgia. He's not a physical freak, but he's goodgot good tools and is oozing with instinct. I could see him as this year's version of what's his face from Wisconsin. Sans the injury history. We would get him with a 4th, and possibly with a 5th.

Chris Borland?

[Pugger]

Remember the name Jean Sifrin when watching the NFL Scouting Combine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCN-C9jPyDQ

Massachusetts tight end Jean Sifrin is another who has not taken a normal route to the combine.

Sifrin -- who was born in the Bahamas -- is 27 years old. He played basketball and football at powerhouse Miami Norland -- other former Norland players in this draft include Miami tailback Duke Johnson and UM offensive tackle Ereck Flowers, and Pittsburgh Steelers star Antonio Brown is another ex-Norland player - but dropped out in 2005, his senior year, to work.

He eventually received his GED and decided he wanted to give college a try. He attended two junior colleges, one in New York and one in California; UMass found him at El Camino CC in California, where he played the 2013 season.

Sifrin had 42 receptions for 642 yards (15.3 yards per catch) and six TDs this past season at UMass; he then decided to enter the draft a year early.

He was listed at 6-foot-7 and 250 pounds by UMass, and for a guy that big, he moves well and is surprisingly agile. While raw, he has good hands and put up solid stats in UMass' pass-happy offense (the Minutemen coach is former NFL assistant Mark Whipple).

The above is from an article on NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000469174/article/nfl-scouting-combine-undertheradar-storylines-to-watch

Somewhere else I read that he runs a 4.6 40 yard dash, which is pretty good for a 6-7, 250 pound guy. That one catch in the end zone is pretty sweet. He is 27, though.

I wonder if his age will keep him from being drafted high...

[woodbuck27]

I wonder if his age will keep him from being drafted high...

Raw and 27 years of age might be an issue for any team drafting him high but where is he projected to go in the Draft Pugger?

[Joemailman]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/TE has him going in the 6-7th round.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/TE has him going in the 6-7th round.

OK.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/08/seventy-nine-years-ago-sunday-the-nfl-held-its-first-draft/

Seventy-nine years ago Sunday, the NFL held its first draft

Posted by Mike Wilkening on February 8, 2015, 6:35 PM EST

Comment woodbuck27:

The obvious questions came to my mind.

Who was the first player drafted into the NFL? How successful was this man in his NFL career?

[woodbuck27]

Hypothetically.....

Based on DRAFTTEK's TOP 100 and if all teams drafted their players as they line up on this board.

Who would the Green Bay Packers get?

We will pic at NO's 30, 62 and 94 in Rounds 1-3.

NO. 30 ... CB Alex Carter Stanford 6'0" 204

Top ranked CB's in 2015 Draft:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/CB

http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=208167690

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24926161/nfl-draft-stanford-cb-alex-carter-makes-decision-to-go-pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR6Va-KfMcM


NO. 62 ... WRF Devin Smith Ohio State 6'1" 197

Top Ranked WR's in 2015 Draft:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/WR

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/514181/devin-smith

http://www.bigblueview.com/2015/1/26/7872437/2015-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-devin-smith-wr-ohio-state


NO. 94 ... ROT Corey Robinson South Carolina 6'7" 348

Top Ranked Tackles in the 2015 Draft:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/OT

Profile (Note: It reads here that he's 6' - 8 "):

http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/corey_robinson_710249.html

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/college/usc/2014/12/25/uscs-corey-robinson-excels-move-offense/20893175/

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015crobinson.php

RSP Film Room No.10 LT Corey Robinson - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y0x9zaZZr8

[Pugger]

Raw and 27 years of age might be an issue for any team drafting him high but where is he projected to go in the Draft Pugger?

I have no clue. We'll have to watch his performance in the combine next week.

[woodbuck27]

I have no clue. We'll have to watch his performance in the combine next week.

See post #145 this thread.

[smuggler]

I feel a trade back is in order. A team might be willing to move up just a few spots to get that 5th year on the rookie contract by selecting in the late first instead of early 2nd. I like a lot of guys, but all of the no-brainer guys will most likely be taken before 30. Trading back would leave us with two seconds, a third, two fourths, and as many as three fifths.

[woodbuck27]

I feel a trade back is in order. A team might be willing to move up just a few spots to get that 5th year on the rookie contract by selecting in the late first instead of early 2nd. I like a lot of guys, but all of the no-brainer guys will most likely be taken before 30. Trading back would leave us with two seconds, a third, two fourths, and as many as three fifths.

In the 2014 Draft TT didn't trade up or down and that's a departure from what we have grown accustomed to seeing. Last season we also saw TT draft in round 1 for need. That's a departure from his normal style of drafting the BPA.

I see opportunities where TT trading down could work for him as you suggest in Rounds 2 and 3.

The one position I'm somewhat concerned for now is DT. How he proceeds in the Off Season and addresses the DT position before the Draft will have an impact on his drafting strategy.

[Joemailman]

In the 2014 Draft TT didn't trade up or down and that's a departure from what we have grown accustomed to seeing. Last season we also saw TT draft in round 1 for need. That's a departure from his normal style of drafting the BPA.

I see opportunities where TT trading down could work for him as you suggest in Rounds 2 and 3.

The one position I'm somewhat concerned for now is DT. How he proceeds in the Off Season and addresses the DT position before the Draft will have an impact on his drafting strategy.

I disagree. I see no departure from his normal drafting procedure. I think HHCD at #21 was likely the BPA on his board. Many thought he would be drafted earlier than that. Sometimes fortune smiles on you and the BPA is also at a position of need. I think that's what happened here.

[smuggler]

It was definitely good luck. Most mocks had him gone 10 picks ahead of our draft position. If you ran the draft again right now, we wouldn't even stand a chance.

Thanks, Jets!

[woodbuck27]

I disagree. I see no departure from his normal drafting procedure. I think HHCD at #21 was likely the BPA on his board. Many thought he would be drafted earlier than that. Sometimes fortune smiles on you and the BPA is also at a position of need. I think that's what happened here.

Looking at this again I agree with you.

Ha Ha Clinton Dix was mocked to go earlier than TT's pick. The stars simply aligned and Dix was the perfect choice for TT and the Green Bay Packers.

[smuggler]

Jordan Phillips, DT.

TJ Clemmings, OT

[woodbuck27]

Jordan Phillips, DT.

TJ Clemmings, OT

Ref: drafttec.com

http://www.drafttek.com/2015-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp

I'm guessing that your thinking that Bryan Bulaga won't be retained; therefore draft TJ Clemmings as a replacement?

As per the Drafttec.com current mock:

TT could trade out of Round 1 and pick TJ Clemmings in the top of Round 2.

Drafttec possibly has 6' - 6" and 334 lb ... DT Jordan Phillips or... 6'- 2" - 232 lb ILB Ramik Wilson available for TT and his late 2nd Rd. pick.

Note ... and in comparison, NFLDRFTSCOUTS.Com has:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/all

LT TJ Clemmings established presently @ NO. 14

DT Jordan Phillips @ NO. 23

ILB Ranik Wilson @ NO. 113.

[smuggler]

I'd be happy with Phillips and Clemmings as our first two picks, if we could get Ramik Wilson later. :)

[woodbuck27]

I'd be happy with Phillips and Clemmings as our first two picks, if we could get Ramik Wilson later. :)

Yes right...Ramik not Ranik Wilson.

[smuggler]

2 - DEVIN FUNCHESS, MICHIGAN
3 - QUINTEN ROLLINS, MIAMI (OHIO)
3 - TY SAMBRAILO, COLORADO STATE
3 - RAMIK WILSON, GEORGIA
5 - TYLER KROFT, RUTGERS
5 - JOSH HARPER, FRESNO STATE
6 - TAIWAN JONES, MICHIGAN STATE
6 - JORDAN RICHARDS, STANFORD
6 - JOEY MBU, HOUSTON
6 - NICK BOYLE, DELAWARE
7 - JALSTON FOWLER, ALABAMA
7 - CRAIG MAGER, TEXAS STATE

Tons of trades in this version. Wasn't able to get Clemmings or Phillips, but I'm happy with the haul. Three tight ends, two corners, two inside linebackers, a safety, a fullback, a nose tackle, an offensive tackle, and one receiver for good measure. We know TT is taking one receiver.

I'm not sure how likely it would be for Rollins to fall into the early third, but he is a bit raw, so it's possible.

[woodbuck27]

2 - DEVIN FUNCHESS, MICHIGAN
3 - QUINTEN ROLLINS, MIAMI (OHIO)
3 - TY SAMBRAILO, COLORADO STATE
3 - RAMIK WILSON, GEORGIA
5 - TYLER KROFT, RUTGERS
5 - JOSH HARPER, FRESNO STATE
6 - TAIWAN JONES, MICHIGAN STATE
6 - JORDAN RICHARDS, STANFORD
6 - JOEY MBU, HOUSTON
6 - NICK BOYLE, DELAWARE
7 - JALSTON FOWLER, ALABAMA
7 - CRAIG MAGER, TEXAS STATE

Tons of trades in this version. ... one receiver for good measure. We know TT is taking one receiver.

I'm not sure how likely it would be for Rollins to fall into the early third, but he is a bit raw, so it's possible.

You're mocking Devin Funchess as a TE. He's the NO. 7 Ranked WR and Ranked NO. 32 overall on NFLDRAFTSCOUTS.COM:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/WR

See also:

http://www.drafttek.com/2015-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1b.asp


Have you looked at this fella who's possibly available for TT's 2nd round pick? :

OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (ha-OH-lee KEY-kah-HA) Fr. Washington ... 6' - 3 " and 246 lbs.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1785852/hauoli-kikaha

You can see video of him and others ie ILB's Eric Kendricks, Paul Dawson and Ramik Wilson (not much here) and DE Danielle Hunter and WR/TE Devin Funchess and TE Ben Koyack here :

http://allgbp.com/2015/01/21/green-bay-packers-draft-prospect-videos-2015/

I reallly like OLB Hau'oli Kikaha and TE Ben Koyack (Round 3-4). He's a hard working strong blocker. He has good feet. He gets intelligently open or back to the ball and his hands seem decent.

[smuggler]

I know of Kikaha. I like him in the second. This was a simulated draft, and Kikaha was gone before the 62 overall pick, so I traded back. Funchess is a Jimmy Graham type WR, and I took him at 2/7 after trading back.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I know of Kikaha. I like him in the second. This was a simulated draft, and Kikaha was gone before the 62 overall pick, so I traded back. Funchess is a Jimmy Graham type WR, and I took him at 2/7 after trading back.

Smuggler, just curious. Do you rely on scouting profiles for your analysis? Or, watch a lot of film? Or, have you seen some of these guys play all season?

For instance, the following is from NFL Draft Tracker, which relies heavily on scouting reports. If these reports are true/accurate, I don't think TT gives Funchess a serious look. The point is how do you separate fact from fiction?

Weaknesses Pass-catching is labored. Allows throws into his frame and catches back half of football at times. Tagged with 20 drops over last three seasons. Isn't a lock to high-point a throw and doesn't attack throws. Won't win enough 50/50 throws. Stifled by inconsistent passing attack. Tends to show monotone, one-note play speed. Hard to find a second gear on tape. Gears down into cuts and slow to accelerate out of breaks. NFL Comparison Gavin Escobar Bottom Line Has mismatch-caliber size, but lack of vertical talent and below-average hands might negate the size to an extent. Funchess was used outside and inside at Michigan and had success from the slot. He has the feel of a hybrid player who can be a big guy at wide receiver or a mismatch nightmare as a move tight end with more weight on his rangy frame.

[woodbuck27]

I know of Kikaha. I like him in the second. This was a simulated draft, and Kikaha was gone before the 62 overall pick, so I traded back. Funchess is a Jimmy Graham type WR, and I took him at 2/7 after trading back.

How did you get into such a draft? A simulated draft.

You'd have to be on top of it. How big was your draft board?

[smuggler]

I don't get paid to scout, so I rely on reports from a few different sites. I obviously didn't like Funchess at 30, but when he was still there after a trade back I went ahead. I imagine that is how TT would treat him, also, but a lot depends on his personality, work ethic, etc, which are aspects to which I am not privileged.

[mraynrand]

Buncha mocks have Patsies taking Funchess - but at WR (but with NE it matters not; they would use him where he creates the biggest mismatch). He is a Finley clone in attitude and talent; Q is whether he would be a willing blocker. Last thing the Pack needs is another prima donna who thinks blocking is beneath him.

[woodbuck27]

Buncha mocks have Patsies taking Funchess - but at WR (but with NE it matters not; they would use him where he creates the biggest mismatch). He is a Finley clone in attitude and talent; Q is whether he would be a willing blocker. Last thing the Pack needs is another prima donna who thinks blocking is beneath him.

I noted watching video of him that Devin Funchess WRF/TE left lots to be desired as a blocking receiver.

I havn't looked to see the best fits for either Seattle or New England. I'm getting there slowly.

[smuggler]

Yeah, I definitely feel he is more a luxury. He was BPA all the way.

[vince]

I don't get paid to scout, so I rely on reports from a few different sites. ... a lot depends on his personality, work ethic, etc, which are aspects to which I am not privileged.
Hence Harv's sig quoting TT: "Frankly, most fans don't know what the hell they're talking about."

Not that that should stop any of us from blathering on though... What fun is that?

[woodbuck27]

Hence Harv's sig quoting TT: "Frankly, most fans don't know what the hell they're talking about."

Not that that should stop any of us from blathering on though... What fun is that?

Then there's this extreme:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRnuFTeK9eTOfWK1-8D0N65v-Z1J3evZQMiKRMOEnG5NJdSnOs

VS this:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1sMxXGnj5zKPl0IPEmCcZbmao9bbNP va0I1OjbUEE8ClTj5nO

Other extreme.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24860921/meet-the-prospect-south-alabama-qb-brandon-bridge

Meet the Prospect: South Alabama QB Brandon Bridge

By: Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst

Also see PAST "MEET THE PROSPECT" FEATURES

RB David Johnson, Northern Iowa; CB D'Joun Smith, Florida Atlantic ; DE Lynden Trail, Norfolk State

LG Josue Matias, Florida State; WR Kevin White, West Virginia; OT Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State

FS Kurtis Drummond, Michigan State; TE Wes Saxton, South Alabama

DE Ryan Mueller, Kansas State; QB Bryan Bennett, SE Louisiana; LB Zach Hodges, Harvard

DE Hau'oli Kikaha, Washington

[woodbuck27]

Comment woodbuck27:

This article discusses trade possibilities in round 1 of the draft.It looks at Philly moving to the NO. 2 pick to select a QB. It also shows a trade down from pick NO. 30 overall by the Green Bay Packers....and more......

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/2/16/8043469/2015-nfl-mock-draft-marcus-mariota-philadelphia-eagles

2015 NFL mock draft: Blockbuster trade edition

By: Dan Kadar  @MockingTheDraft on Feb 16, 2015, 8:00a

[smuggler]

I would be thrilled to get an early 3rd rounder to move back three spots at the end of the first. Of course, that does give the Seachickies RoFR on any player we might be inclined to pick, which is not that advertising.

[pbmax]

Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 1h1 hour ago
Two middle round guys I've been told the #Packers like today: Nevada QB Cody Fajardo, UCONN WR Geremy Davis #NFLCombine

[smuggler]

I was impressed by Brett Hundley's interviews. I don't know too much about him, but that might be an option in the early 2nd or mid-2nd...

[pbmax]

Packer Report thinks the Packers like the Clemson ILB who might have been a sleeper before the combine, but not after.

However, this runs counter to the Ted narrative that he doesn't even talk to the players he likes in the first round.

http://gnb.scout.com/story/1520626-new-no-1-at-ilb-packers-met-with-anthony?s=61#.VOu8W4DGmkE.twitter

Huber thinks he might have been available at 62 previously, but not now.


The attraction with Anthony is his size. Other than D.J. Smith, a sixth-round pick in 2011 who was 5-foot-11, the Packers have shied away from undersized linebackers. On last year’s depth chart, Jones is 6-foot-3, Hawk is 6-foot-1, Barrington is 6-foot-1 and Carl Bradford is 6-foot-1. Past starters Desmond Bishop and Nick Barnett are 6-foot-2. That might give Anthony the edge in the Packers’ eyes over UCLA’s Eric Kendricks (6-0) and Miami’s Denzel Perryman (5-11).

“I feel like if you can play football, you can play football,” Anthony said in downplaying his measurables. “I definitely have some good measurables. I’m not sure how far that will make me stand out.”

McKinney has the size (6-foot-4) and athleticism (4.66 with a 40.5-inch vertical) but his workout was a “big disappointment,” the NFL’s longtime head scout, Dave-Te’ Thomas, said.

There was nothing disappointing about Anthony’s workout. Thomas called him the “real deal.” It’s a continuation of Anthony’s work at Clemson and his strong week at the Senior Bowl.

[pbmax]

Packer Report also reports this guy got a Packer interview. http://gnb.scout.com/story/1520695-packers-interview-versatile-offensive-lineman?s=61


Mitch Morse is the personification of what the Green Bay Packers look for in an offensive linemen.

The Packers generally draft collegiate left tackles. Morse played left tackle as a senior.

The Packers, like all teams, covet versatility. Morse started games at center, right tackle and left tackle, and also played guard, at Missouri.

The Packers, like all teams, covet toughness. Morse didn’t miss a game with a broken finger.

Thus, it’s no surprise that the Packers had a formal interview with Morse at the Scouting Combine.

Morse was a three-year starter who was second-team all-SEC as a senior. Not only did he run the weekly gauntlet of elite SEC pass rushers, but he faced them every day at practice with the likes of Kony Ealy and Michael Sam and prized 2015 draft prospects Shane Ray and Markus Golden.

[pbmax]

Also from Packer Report:

PACKERS INTERVIEW BIG DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Not only did Green Bay host formal interviews with Jordan Phillips and Danny Shelton, but they also talked to Washington cornerback Marcus Peters, who was kicked off the team.

[pbmax]

Your 6th Round QB of the future:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2377065-chris-bonner-the-best-qb-draft-prospect-you-havent-heard-about-yet

Chris Bonner

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/293/074/hi-res-067b46d25caab935e60d0cffcaad7789_crop_north.jpg?w= 630&h=420&q=75

[red]

Also from Packer Report:

PACKERS INTERVIEW BIG DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Not only did Green Bay host formal interviews with Jordan Phillips and Danny Shelton, but they also talked to Washington cornerback Marcus Peters, who was kicked off the team.

unlike past drafts, theres actually decent NT's in this draft, with the correct size

goodbye raji

[smuggler]

Yep. Guys like Ellis McCarthy look to be 3rd or 4th round (he has had knee issues, so I'm not specifically suggesting we draft him) and I don't see Raji being that much better. Raji is more mobile, but McCarthy anchors better, from what I've seen.

[pbmax]

Mel Kiper Jr. @MelKiperESPN · Mar 5
Also: About 100 of you asked -- No, I don't have draft grades for the llamas. 40 times and short-shuttle #s still unconfirmed.

Someone need to watch the hour of helicopter footage and get some times on these llamas.

[Joemailman]

Also from Packer Report:

PACKERS INTERVIEW BIG DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Not only did Green Bay host formal interviews with Jordan Phillips and Danny Shelton, but they also talked to Washington cornerback Marcus Peters, who was kicked off the team.

Peters is really good. But it would be a real departure from his M.O. for TT to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who was kicked off his team because of conflicts with the coaching staff. He would probably need to be convinced that the coaching staff was the problem.

[smuggler]

Word on the street is the Cardinals are absolutely in love with Eric Kendricks. They're picking at 24. I'm not sure he is worth reading up seven spots in the first round...

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 18m18 minutes ago
Just told that 34 team needing inside linebacker has Dawson number one and Anthony number two on their list.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 18m18 minutes ago
Just told that 34 team needing inside linebacker has Dawson number one and Anthony number two on their list.

Yet Anthony had a super combine and Dawson's was a disaster. Go figure. It's why scouts watch film.

I think the problem with Dawson for the Packers might be his intangibles more than the tangibles. The following is from NFL Draft Tracker:

Scouts are very worried about his personal character and say he's not beloved within the program. Questions have been raised about his commitment to the process. Not a film studier.

That doesn't sound like Packer people to me.

It may be irrelevant because, if PackerReport numbers are correct, Dawson will be off the board by the time the Packers draft. On the other hand, if the scout is right and Dawson slips a round or two, will the Packers gamble on him?

[smuggler]

I really have to suspect that 34 team is the Bears.. and that would explain those rankings.

[pbmax]

Twitter discussion about how FA plays out for teams (it doesn't account for much difference). Discussion turned to effect of draft on teams.

Someone asked about the draft and 538.com posted this: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/no-team-can-beat-the-draft/

Look at the third chart, which plots value associated with player by draft position compared to value placed on pick by Jimmy Johnson's draft pick chart. Teams tend to adhere to the chart even if using a modified one. Guess what picks are undervalued according to the chart? Same picks Ted tends to accumulate.

If you read the whole thing, watch for bonus Ron Wolf shoutout.


http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/paine-nfldraftefficientmarket-4.png?w=1024

[pittstang5]

I keep seeing more and more Stephone Anthony linked to the Packers. I read an article, can't remember by who or where about Capers being in love with this guy.

What's the story? I heard he blew it up at the Senior bowl and combine. Will the Packers take him in the 1st round? Is he what we need at ILB?

[red]

I keep seeing more and more Stephone Anthony linked to the Packers. I read an article, can't remember by who or where about Capers being in love with this guy.

What's the story? I heard he blew it up at the Senior bowl and combine. Will the Packers take him in the 1st round? Is he what we need at ILB?

he's pretty much the prototype size you want at ILB, and he can cover

i've read the same things about the packers really liking him

another guy to watch out for is paul dawson from TCU. he did horrible at the combine. but in games when the pads are on (when it really counts), he might be the best defensive player in the draft. he's got that "IT" factor that you can't teach

[smuggler]

Stock seems to have fallen on Danny Shelton a bit. Probably not enough to put him in striking distance of us at 30, but seemingly enough to keep him out of Chicago, which is a decent consolation.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I keep seeing more and more Stephone Anthony linked to the Packers. I read an article, can't remember by who or where about Capers being in love with this guy.

What's the story? I heard he blew it up at the Senior bowl and combine. Will the Packers take him in the 1st round? Is he what we need at ILB?

http://www.independentmail.com/orange-and-white/former-clemson-lb-stephone-anthony-a-surprise-to-nfl-personnel_33691400


One of those coaches who wouldn’t mind getting their hands on Anthony is Dom Capers, the former Carolina Panthers head coach and current defensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, who pick 30th in the first round and have a need at inside linebacker. Draft insiders say Capers has expressed interest in the Clemson LB.

It just so happens that the Packers are Anthony’s favorite team.

[mraynrand]

\ he's got that "IT" factor that you can't teach

uh oh

[Guiness]

Jameis Winston is saying he won't be attending the draft - even as the potential #1 pick! I wonder how much and what kind of pressure will be put on him?

[pbmax]

uh oh

red IS partial in the new PackerRats movie.

[pbmax]

Jameis Winston is saying he won't be attending the draft - even as the potential #1 pick! I wonder how much and what kind of pressure will be put on him?

Meets with Commish, starts making bad PR moves. I think Roger is radioactive.

[red]

Stock seems to have fallen on Danny Shelton a bit. Probably not enough to put him in striking distance of us at 30, but seemingly enough to keep him out of Chicago, which is a decent consolation.

it would be nice if the bears took a page out of our book on how to build a 3-4 defense, and never get a proper NT, to keep guys off their ILBs

[red]

red IS partial in the new PackerRats movie.

coldplay rulz


* sent from apple device

[Joemailman]

Meets with Commish, starts making bad PR moves. I think Roger is radioactive.

Why is celebrating at home with family on the biggest day of his life instead of going to Chicago to hug Roger Goodell a bad PR move? I think it would be great. I have a feeling he'll give in and attend the draft, but I think it would be great if he didn't. This would be the best thing since Joe Thomas skipped the 2007 Draft to go fishing with his dad. Thomas was the #3 pick overall.

[pbmax]

Why is celebrating at home with family on the biggest day of his life instead of going to Chicago to hug Roger Goodell a bad PR move? I think it would be great. I have a feeling he'll give in and attend the draft, but I think it would be great if he didn't. This would be the best thing since Joe Thomas skipped the 2007 Draft to go fishing with his dad. Thomas was the #3 pick overall.

Mostly a joke, but it would be a bit odd and a precedent breaker for the #1 Overall not to be there.

And he just had a meeting with the Commish less than 2 weeks ago, so I wonder if it was a suggestion.

[vince]

Here's a guy that Ted might "overdraft" like he did Nick Collins and Jordy Nelson.

Kansas LB Ben Heeney Overcoming 'Misconceptions,' Challenges Entering NFL Draft (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2388524-kansas-lb-ben-heeney-overcoming-misconceptions-challenges-entering-nfl-draft?utm_campaign=tsiphone&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter.com)


The Kansas linebacker’s times topped the charts among all linebackers in Indianapolis in each of the combine’s three measurable agility drills. Heeney completed the three-cone drill in 6.68 seconds, the 20-yard shuttle in four seconds flat and the 60-yard shuttle in 11.06 seconds.

Heeney utilized that athleticism to rack up 335 total tackles, including 35.5 tackles for loss, in his four-year Kansas career. He was a first-team all-Big 12 selection in 2014, and a second-team all-Big 12 player in 2013 and 2012.

Yet even with his production and accolades, Heeney was not widely recognized as a great athlete until he proved it by running fast times—also including a 4.59-second 40-yard dash—in Under Armour and shorts at Lucas Oil Stadium.

“He’s just a lot better pure athlete than people have ever given him credit for,” Kansas assistant head coach/defensive coordinator Clint Bowen said in an interview with Bleacher Report. “I sang that song all season. Everyone was trying to say that he was a old-school, throwback Mike linebacker and I was like ‘No, he’s not.’ He’s a modern-day, fast, athletic linebacker, and everyone wanted to compare him to something that he wasn’t.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JO2e_1i_1I

[mraynrand]

he looks white

[red]

well this years "darrius heyward bey" has just announced himself

a 6'2 212 lbs WR from central florida just ran a 4.2 40 at his pro day. the guy is said to be the third best WR on his TEAM, drops everything, and can't run a route

but people are now saying he could be a first round pick

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/did-ucf-receiver-breshad-perriman-just-run-a-sub-4-2-second-40-yard-dash-184248728.html

al davis is trying to dig his way out of his grave right now

[Joemailman]

DE Randy Gregory of Nebraska tested positive for marijuana at combine drug test. He was considered a possible top 10 pick. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000481581/article/randy-gregory-i-blame-myself-for-failed-nfl-combine-drug-test

[mraynrand]

DE Randy Gregory of Nebraska tested positive for marijuana at combine drug test. He was considered a possible top 10 pick.

Do they test your car trunk for cash at the combine too?

[pbmax]

Do they test your car trunk for cash at the combine too?

Nope but the Nebraska State Patrol has put a lien on his house.

[smuggler]

well this years "darrius heyward bey" has just announced himself

You can't teach speed. You *can* teach better route running, though not hands per se.

[vince]

well this years "darrius heyward bey" has just announced himself

a 6'2 212 lbs WR from central florida just ran a 4.2 40 at his pro day. the guy is said to be the third best WR on his TEAM, drops everything, and can't run a route

but people are now saying he could be a first round pick

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/did-ucf-receiver-breshad-perriman-just-run-a-sub-4-2-second-40-yard-dash-184248728.html

al davis is trying to dig his way out of his grave right now
"That look after you just clocked a 4.2 40."
https://twitter.com/EricDeSalvo/status/580861609301671936

[Fritz]

Here's a guy that Ted might "overdraft" like he did Nick Collins and Jordy Nelson.

Kansas LB Ben Heeney Overcoming 'Misconceptions,' Challenges Entering NFL Draft (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2388524-kansas-lb-ben-heeney-overcoming-misconceptions-challenges-entering-nfl-draft?utm_campaign=tsiphone&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter.com)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JO2e_1i_1I



Wasn't his grandfather a good-hearted shyster on Green Acres?

[pbmax]

No idea but I always preferred Petticoat Junction.


http://www.catsafterme.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pj1.jpg

[Freak Out]

Is there any chance TT takes a shot with Dorial Green-Beckham if he is around at the end of the 1st?

[red]

Is there any chance TT takes a shot with Dorial Green-Beckham if he is around at the end of the 1st?

don't know why he'd bother.

for one, we're all full up at WR

and two, he seems to be a nutcase of epic proportions

[Fritz]

No idea but I always preferred Petticoat Junction.


http://www.catsafterme.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pj1.jpg

I remember that show! Wow.

Which one was the slutty one?

[Freak Out]

don't know why he'd bother.

for one, we're all full up at WR

and two, he seems to be a nutcase of epic proportions

Lawrence Taylor was a nutcase. :) I understand the trepidation though. Dude can be a complete badass if he just gets his act straight.

[Rastak]

I remember that show! Wow.

Which one was the slutty one?


Good ole Kate who was the mom was Betty Rubble's voice on the Flintstones.


Edit: I guess I didn't answer your question......:^)

[mraynrand]

No idea but I always preferred Petticoat Junction.


http://www.catsafterme.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pj1.jpg

Titillating!

[Guiness]

Titillating!

unsound

[pbmax]

They must have changed actresses for Billie Jo. She was also portrayed by Meredith MacRae.

http://www.meredithmacrae.com/images/photo-bio.png

[Fritz]

Well, Ted's re-signing of Guion and Raji would seem to suggest that Ted has one less position of need to consider.

Are these his top priority positions?

1. ILB
2. CB
3. TE
4. Safety

[smuggler]

I would think that backup QB would be a bigger need than safety. Burnett and HaHa are solid. Hyde is a good #3 and Richardson has already been resigned. I do think they'll draft one if the right guy falls, but they have to at least bring in a 3rd QB for training camp.

[Patler]

1. ILB
2. CB
3. ILB
4. CB
5. Anything else

[Maxie the Taxi]

1. ILB Stephone Anthony
2. CB Ronald Darby
3. ILB Jeff Luc
4. CB Nick Marshall

Fify

[smuggler]

Is Nick Marshall reaally worthy of a 4 rder?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Is Nick Marshall reaally worthy of a 4 rder?

No, probably a 5th rnd though, not so much as a CB, but I think the guy is a great QB. I've seen him play many times. Guy would be a value pick at 5. Coach has called him the best zone read QB in the country. Got a great arm and is fast. Better than anything we've got after Rodgers.

[vince]

1. ILB
2. CB
3. ILB
4. CB
5. Anything else
After those two spots of immediate need (maybe playmaking TE too), it'd be a great time to draft and develop a few guys for a couple years down the line. OLB, DE, NT, OG, RB

[vince]

Anthony would be great. Not a fan of Darby for the Packers though. He's a finesse corner who's shy to tackle on a team that already has one of those (Shields and Tramon are more willing tacklers than Darby) in a division/conference where that can pose problems. (Detroit, Minnesota, Seattle, etc., etc.) I'd shudder to see Darby trying to get Peterson to the ground. You can maybe get away with one of those guys but two is a bit of a problem I think.

[pbmax]

Would be stunned if OL doesn't come up by the fifth.

[mraynrand]

No, probably a 5th rnd though, not so much as a CB, but I think the guy is a great QB. I've seen him play many times. Guy would be a value pick at 5. Coach has called him the best zone read QB in the country. Got a great arm and is fast. Better than anything we've got after Rodgers.

Packers don't really have a Zone Read RB or offense, but I suppose they could run it at some point. Could be a good CB, but seems like a FA, PS kinda guy.

[Patler]

Would be stunned if OL doesn't come up by the fifth.

Isn't it just about a lock for the 4th round?
(My list wasn't intended to be rounds of the draft, just order of need.)

[smuggler]

How do you regard the tackling of Wake Forest's Kevin Johnson, vince?

[pbmax]

Isn't it just about a lock for the 4th round?
(My list wasn't intended to be rounds of the draft, just order of need.)

Probably. But you never know how things will sort out.

[vince]

How do you regard the tackling of Wake Forest's Kevin Johnson, vince?
I'm no film jockey but I'd say Johnson is far more willing to mix it up, and as he continues to mature he could add some size to his thin frame. I think he'd be a good pick though not sure how ready he'll be out of the shoot. Like Shields, he may need a year to ramp up. A year to mature and put some meat on his bones would do him a ton of good. Unlike a couple of the raw guys this year though, he looks pretty natural to me. He can turn and make a play on the ball like Shields too. Most of these guys I'd like a lot better on Day 2 than Day 1.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6xmW47G-w0

[Maxie the Taxi]

Packers don't really have a Zone Read RB or offense, but I suppose they could run it at some point. Could be a good CB, but seems like a FA, PS kinda guy.

I just read an article that said McCarthy wants to run the pistol offense more this year. Marshall could do that way better than Rodgers, especially in the end zone. Besides, Marshall doesn't need to run the zone read to be effective. Guy has a strong arm...don't know what his Wonderlic is though. Heh Heh

[Maxie the Taxi]

Marshall can tackle, if his performance in the Senior Bowl is any indication.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I really like Darren Waller for a playmaking TE. Guy is 6'6" 238 lbs and runs the 40 in 4.46.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/darren-waller?id=2552408

http://lombardiave.com/2015/02/06/nfl-draft-prospect-qa-georgia-tech-wide-receiver-darren-waller/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jex4aA4BLXI

[Maxie the Taxi]

Anthony would be great. Not a fan of Darby for the Packers though. He's a finesse corner who's shy to tackle on a team that already has one of those (Shields and Tramon are more willing tacklers than Darby) in a division/conference where that can pose problems. (Detroit, Minnesota, Seattle, etc., etc.) I'd shudder to see Darby trying to get Peterson to the ground. You can maybe get away with one of those guys but two is a bit of a problem I think.

Man, I've watched tape of Darby and I just don't see the shyness to tackle. He seems very aggressive to me and doesn't hesitate to mix it up. Maybe I'm missing something.

[Joemailman]

I really like Darren Waller for a playmaking TE. Guy is 6'6" 238 lbs and runs the 40 in 4.46.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/darren-waller?id=2552408

http://lombardiave.com/2015/02/06/nfl-draft-prospect-qa-georgia-tech-wide-receiver-darren-waller/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jex4aA4BLXI

Had some character issues, but might be worth a shot in the 4th round. About the same height and weight that Finley was when drafted. Looked pretty effortless when running that 4.6.

[smuggler]

Isn't Darby a little on the small side?

[Bretsky]

1. ILB
2. CB
3. ILB
4. CB
5. Anything else



IN MY BOOK DL is clearly a need

We get our 3rd round reach back this year but he looked like Sherrod...aka...junk while he was playing last year.

We need to restock a player or two there and it would not surprise me at all if we grab one high

For me you have to add DL in one of those slots and I would not be surprised if we drafted two of them

[vince]

Man, I've watched tape of Darby and I just don't see the shyness to tackle. He seems very aggressive to me and doesn't hesitate to mix it up. Maybe I'm missing something.
My report is based on what I've seen from a full 10 minutes of "best of" youtube highlights and projecting his play at the NFL level so don't be so quick to second-guess yourself Maxie. I'm seeing a track guy who can get by at the college level on the football field but I'd be concerned will be overpowered at the NFL level, but that don't make me right.

I want a guy who can hang with the big dogs in the league like Calvin Johnson, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, etc. - not another speed demon who those guys can push aside at the line or climb up over the top of if they need, and who's a liability coming up against the run at the NFL level. We already got one of those guys on the other side...

Is it too much to ask for an Al Harris or Richard Sherman kind of guy? Sherman lasted til the 5th round and Harris til the 6th... Those guys are legends but their physicality, length and cover capabilities can't be THAT rare can they?

[pbmax]

Is anyone convinced about Palmer and Mulumba?

With Peppers for perhaps one more year (and no guarantee on that), isn't OLB a concern as much as DL?

[pittstang5]

Is it too much to ask for an Al Harris or Richard Sherman kind of guy? Sherman lasted til the 5th round and Harris til the 6th... Those guys are legends but their physicality, length and cover capabilities can't be THAT rare can they?

sounds like your looking for the guy I just started doing a little research on:

Eric Rowe, Utah

Some think he's a safety, some say CB. The more I read, the more I like.

[pbmax]

Lindsay Rhodes ‏@lindsay_rhodes 7m7 minutes ago
Miami LB Denzel Perryman lowers combine 40 time from 4.78 to 4.68 but pulls hamstring on 2nd run. Pro Day over

This guy has packer written all OVER him. Especially the Packer's brand ace bandage on his thigh.

[Freak Out]

Lindsay Rhodes ‏@lindsay_rhodes 7m7 minutes ago
Miami LB Denzel Perryman lowers combine 40 time from 4.78 to 4.68 but pulls hamstring on 2nd run. Pro Day over

This guy has packer written all OVER him. Especially the Packer's brand ace bandage on his thigh.
LOL....no doubt. Who was the packer scout in attendance? Jinxer...

[pbmax]

So I signed up for Scout.com for 9 free months and now the NFL's Head Scout is doing a chat.

NFL DRAFT CHAT WITH DAVE-TE' THOMAS: http://gnb.scout.com/story/1533539-nfl-draft-chat-with-dave-te-thomas?s=61

as in the next hour or two. Anyone have any questions they want asked?

[mraynrand]

Anyone have any questions they want asked?

was he there when Byron Jones ran his 4.08 40?

[pbmax]

was he there when Byron Jones ran his 4.08 40?

I'll tee that one up right now.

[pbmax]

Comment From Tom R.
Your impressions of Quinten Rollins? A reach at 30?
via·about an hour ago

Dave-Te\' Thomas
I DO NOT THINK HE WILL BE THERE AT THE END OF 2, BUT AT 30, I MUCH RATHER SEE STEPHONE ANTHONY AT ILB FOR MY TEAM, WOULDN'T YOU?
via·about an hour ago

Comment From Ram
Do you see any QBs going late third or fourth round? If so, who and do they have a future in two or so years?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
IF YOU ARE A CHEESE HEAD & KNOW THOMPSON'S MIND SET & SUCCESS, I SAY THE STEAL AT QB IS IN 6/7 WITH CODY FAJARDO
via·about an hour ago

[pbmax]

was he there when Byron Jones ran his 4.08 40?

Chat ended. We might never know. Kinda like whatever happened to Sidd Finch.

Except apparently Thomas things Jones will be a safety selected in Rounds 1-2.

Comment From Pixburger
Hi Dave. Love your insights into the draft. Since Byron Jones finally ran a 40, where's he stand on your cornerbacks and overall lists.
via·about an hour ago

Dave-Te\' Thomas
ACTUALLY, I HAVE THE KID ASA FREE SAFETY-LOTS OF BRIAN DAWKINS IN HIS GAME & HE STARTED THERE AS A FROSH & SOPHOMORE-LOOK AT HIS #s THOSE YEARS

Comment From Matt De Lima
Which player(s) have improved their draft stock most since the end of the college football season?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
THE KID I JUST TALKED ABOUT & BACK TO THE FREE SAFETY ISSUE, 66% OF HIS PLAYS WERE MADE Vs. THE RUN-I SAY HE'S CERTAIN 1st ROUND & SF COULD OPT FOR HIM OR MARCUS PETERS

Comment From Jersey Al
Hello Dave! Who are your top picks for Rounds 1-3 CBs that the Packers are likely to be interested in?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
IF THOSE FOLKS IN CHEESE COUNTRY DO NOT TAKE BYRON JONES IN 1, THEY BETTER HOP ON ERIC ROWE IN 2 & THERE IS LOTS OF CHATTER COME OUT OF CAMP ON JOSH SHAW & JACOBY GLENN

[pbmax]

Here is the whole thing: http://gnb.scout.com/story/1533539-nfl-draft-chat-with-dave-te-thomas?s=61


Comment From massraider
Hey, Dave, can you give two or three players you think are a bit overrated by the scouting community?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
Well, certainly I am not a fan of Winston, more so for his lack of overall conditioning & off field issues that spell JaMarcus Russell & Another is Sammie Coates-more drops & PBUs than any receiver not named Devin Funchess


Comment From Pixburger
Hi Dave. Love your insights into the draft. Since Byron Jones finally ran a 40, where's he stand on your cornerbacks and overall lists.

Dave-Te\' Thomas
ACTUALLY, I HAVE THE KID ASA FREE SAFETY-LOTS OF BRIAN DAWKINS IN HIS GAME & HE STARTED THERE AS A FROSH & SOPHOMORE-LOOK AT HIS #s THOSE YEARS


Comment From Matt De Lima
Which player(s) have improved their draft stock most since the end of the college football season?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
THE KID I JUST TALKED ABOUT & BACK TO THE FREE SAFETY ISSUE, 66% OF HIS PLAYS WERE MADE Vs. THE RUN-I SAY HE'S CERTAIN 1st ROUND & SF COULD OPT FOR HIM OR MARCUS PETERS


Comment From Jersey Al
Hello Dave! Who are your top picks for Rounds 1-3 CBs that the Packers are likely to be interested in?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
IF THOSE FOLKS IN CHEESE COUNTRY DO NOT TAKE BYRON JONES IN 1, THEY BETTER HOP ON ERIC ROWE IN 2 & THERE IS LOTS OF CHATTER COME OUT OF CAMP ON JOSH SHAW & JACOBY GLENN


Comment From viking1987
what r the odds the vikings trade back at number 11 and how far do you think they would trade back. i thinking my self if mariota is there they could trade back to 17 with sandiego

Dave-Te\' Thomas
NO WAY MARIOTA GETS PAST #6. I THINK IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE WR ISSUE-IF COOPER IS LEFT IN THE LERCH BY OAKLAND, I SAY THEY HAVE TO LOOK THE OPPOSITE WAY & TRY TO GET INTO THE TOP 8


Comment From Scott
I've seen rankings on Jay Ajayi from outside the top 10 to the back with the most upside. How do you see his game translating at the next level?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
I SEE HIM AS AN AVERAGE JOE-I THINK HE TIRED A BIT LATE LAST YEAR & SEE HIM LASTING TO ROUND 3


Comment From Pixburger
Would you please name 3 prospects that would be good first round picks for the Steelers?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
BYRON JONES, MARCUS PETERS, TRAE WAYNES-GUESS WHAT POSITION IS MOST LACKING IN STEEL TOWN!


Comment From Scott
The Jets have needs at both the QB and RB position. What running backs might they target in the 2nd round?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO SIGN RIDLEY, BUT IF THAT FALLS THROUGH, I GO FOR "MEDICATION" & TAKE A JOHNSON (Duke) & JOHNSON (DAvid) AFFECT-DAVID IS ANOTHER MATT FORTE & DUKE IS A BULL WITH A FERRARI ENGINE


Comment From Nate Rau
What is the consensus on off-the-field issues surrounding Marcus Peters? Are teams satisfied that he's worthy of a heavy investment despite getting kicked off his team?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
OH NO BUBBA-LOTS HAVE TAKEN HIM OFF THEIR BOARDS AS THE UW COACHES CONTINUE TO DOG HIM-ME? I'D TAKE HIM & I KNOW IF HE GETS OVER ANGER ISSUES, I GOT, READY FOR THIS? THE NEXT CHARLES WOODSON


Comment From Tim
Georgia WR, Chris Conley seems to be flying under the media radar. How high do you think he'll go?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
MID ROUNDS ON CONLEY-SOME TEAM NEEDING AS LOT WR (Falcons) MIGHT HAVE A BIG STEAL ON THEIR HANDS-GOOD QUESTION-KID HAS BEEN ON MY RADAR SINCE 2013


Comment From massraider
Dave, 2nd round pass rushers you like?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
LOVE NATE ORCHARD-EVERYONE SAYS HE HAS A LOT TO LEARN-I SEE TERRELL SUGGS IN THAT GUY
ALSO A HUGE FAN OF THE SMITH BOYS-PRESTON IN 2 & Z'DARIUS IN 4


Comment From Ram
Do you see any QBs going late third or fourth round? If so, who and do they have a future in two or so years?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
IF YOU ARE A CHEESE HEAD & KNOW THOMPSON'S MIND SET & SUCCESS, I SAY THE STEAL AT QB IS IN 6/7 WITH CODY FAJARDO


Comment From Tom R.
Your impressions of Quinten Rollins? A reach at 30?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
I DO NOT THINK HE WILL BE THERE AT THE END OF 2, BUT AT 30, I MUCH RATHER SEE STEPHONE ANTHONY AT ILB FOR MY TEAM, WOULDN'T YOU?


Comment From k3
what are your thoughts on the potential of Darren Waller being a move TE/redzone threat at the next level? where do you see him drafted?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
MID-TO-LATE ROUNDS, BUT YES, yES, YES-KID REMINDS ME OF JAY NOVACEK-TOO BAD THEY HAVE TO BE SELF TAUGHT AS A RECEIVER, BUT BOY, CAN HE BLOCK


Comment From TeddyTouchdown
Could you see the Vikings taking a chance on Gregory,DGB or Peters with the issues they have coming in to the draft

Dave-Te\' Thomas
HELLO DOCTOR, PLEASE PERSCRIBE MR SPIELMAN WITH TONS OF ASPIRINS IF HE DRAFTS ANY OFT HE THREE


Comment From k3
do you see Obum Gwachum developing into a legit pass rusher? could he also play some TE?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
I'D LEAVE HIM ON DEFENSE-RAW TALENT-REMEMBER WHEN MIKE JONES, THE RB AT MISSOURI DEVELOPED AS A LB WITH OAKLAND & THE RAIDERS? THIS KID IS THE NEW VERSION


Comment From LBarthelmess
Hi Dave. Can you give us your thoughts on Frank Clark

Dave-Te\' Thomas
FOOTBALL PLAYER WISE, I THINK HE IS A BLUE COLLAR TALENT THAT I WOULD PREFER TO STAND UP IN A 3-4.
OFF THE FIELD, THERE IS STILL TOO MUCH CLOUD ON THAT STORY TO COMMENT & COULD BE A RAY McDONALD LIKE THING THERE SO I AM GOING TO BACK OFF ON THAT PART. EVEN BEFORE THAT, I DID NOT HAVE HIM HIGHER THAN 5


Comment From Chad Jensen
Hi, Dave. What's the story on Gerod Holliman and his 14 INTs? Can that translate to the NFL?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
WHY WAS HE BENCHED FOR 5 GAMES? WHY DID SOME TEAMS START CANCELLING ON HIS VISITS. KID IS A BALL HAWK & THE MOST OVERRATED DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THIS DRAFT, HANDS
DOWN


Comment From viking1987
what player do you think could be a surprise faller and a surprise riser

Dave-Te\' Thomas
FALLER-JORDAN PHILLIPS (work ethic & eating issues)
RISER-EASY PEEAZY-BYRON JONES & BRESHARD PERRIMAN


Comment From Jersey Al
Dave, some under-the-radar mid-late round picks Ted Thompson will be hunting for?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
DE Z'DARIUS SMITH, QB CODY FAJARDO, THE ALABAMA FB FOWLER, DALLAS TULL-CHATTANOOGA


Comment From Tim
Matt Jones seems like he could be sleeper if he can stay healthy. Does his injury history at Florida push him to late day 3?

Dave-Te\' Thomas
I SAY HE GOES BY 5, BUT I LIKE A PAIR OF SLEEPERS OUT OF LSU A LOT-HILLIARD & MAGEE A LOT BETTER