More Banjo: vs. Jets Aftermath

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Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 1h
McCarthy essentially said House earned chance to work ahead of Hayward in nickel n dime

That's probably going to change with Hyde hurt. I don't think Bush goes in ahead of Hayward.


McCarthy PC in brief:

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
McCarthy: Davante (Adams) has earned those opportunities. He's been coming on. We gave him a shot & he made some plays. #NYJvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
McCarthy: They have grit. I really like the makeup & character of our players. This group is wired the right way. We improved as a team.

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
McCarthy: I thought our defense got stronger as the game went on. #NYJvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
McCarthy: Jordy (Nelson) spoils us. He plays that way all the time. He's just a clutch player. #NYJvsGB

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Rodgers PC

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Rodgers: We just didn't bring a lot of energy to start the game. When we started to show a little grit it came together. #NYJvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Rodgers on Jordy Nelson: He's pretty impressive. He gets overlooked at times, but we know what kind of player he is.

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Rodgers: I think we learned a lot about ourselves today. There's nothing that can replace winning. #NYJvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Rodgers on passing Bart Starr on all-time passing list: I was definitely thinking about Bart. He & I have gotten close. Wish him the best.

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Rodgers: It was a character-building win for us, and our first win. Now we're 1-1 and tied for the division lead.


Nelson PC:

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Nelson: It gives us some momentum. Great to win at home, especially your home opener. #NYJvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Nelson on his 200-yard day: It's fun, it's enjoyable. It's what needed to be done to win the game. That's all that matters. #NYJvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Nelson on going down 21-3: I told our receivers, don't try to go and do something special. We knew we'd be able to move the ball. #NYJvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
That's all from Nelson. Stay tuned to http://packers.com for continuing coverage of the #Packers 31-24 victory over the Jets. #NYJvsGB

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Little help from the Badger Beat guy at JSO:

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 2h
Mornhinweg with the TO call on the sideline. ... Jets go ahead and convert the fourth down anyway.

Jeff Potrykus ‏@jaypo1961 2h
@TyDunne The official didn't call the time until 91 from the Jets yelled into his right ear...

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Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2h
Andy Mulumba (right leg) was just taken to the locker room on a cart.

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 2h
Hyde & Mulumba out with knee injuries for #Packers. #NYJvsGB

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Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 7m
FWIW I had the #Packers for six missed tackles against the Jets.

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Rodgers PC

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h
Rodgers: We just didn't bring a lot of energy to start the game. When we started to show a little grit it came together.

Home opener after getting blown out on the road...how does a team that is supposed to be a SB contender come out flat in that kind of situation?

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Home opener after getting blown out on the road...how does a team that is supposed to be a SB contender come out flat in that kind of situation?

I was taken aback to read it. I always think things like this are an easy charge for fans to make but have little evidence to back it up. Basically, that this charge is leveled at almost every team that falls behind or has a bad stretch of plays.

I wonder if he'll discuss in in detail on his radio show.

[Joemailman]

Regarding the Jets timeout on the TD play: NFL rules say that only the head coach or a player in the game can call timeout. However, the rules also state that when a snap is imminent, an official is not supposed to turn his back on the field to see who is calling for the timeout.


NFL spokesman Michael Signora said in a statement the play was officiated correctly, because "when a snap is imminent, game officials are instructed not to turn their attention away from the field to verify who is calling the timeout. A game official should not grant the timeout only if he is certain it is not being requested by the head coach."

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Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 1m
Mentioned here last night and wrote in Ultimate Game Review, had #Packers for six missed tackles yesterday. @PFF had them for only three.

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Regarding the Jets timeout on the TD play: NFL rules say that only the head coach or a player in the game can call timeout. However, the rules also state that when a snap is imminent, an official is not supposed to turn his back on the field to see who is calling for the timeout.

Richardson said he "helped" Marty get the TO call to the ref by talking right into the refs ear. Its good to work as a unit.

[Joemailman]

Home opener after getting blown out on the road...how does a team that is supposed to be a SB contender come out flat in that kind of situation?

Maybe the Packers believe too much in the "Lambeau Mystique"? Do they think they're going to win just by taking the field?

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Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 6m
According to @PFF, @HighRizer38 allowed 1 completion, 6 targets, 4 yards, 1 INT.

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 37m
The guys at @PFF have their #Packers analysis up. Only three missed tackles on D. Peppers with a QB hit, three hurries, one batted pass.

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Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 1h
McCarthy essentially said House earned chance to work ahead of Hayward in nickel n dime


That surprises me. Last time we saw much of Hayward, it was during his rookie season, and he was playing pretty amazing. It sure seems that his play then was a level above where House is now.

[hoosier]

Maybe the Packers believe too much in the "Lambeau Mystique"? Do they think they're going to win just by taking the field?

I thought the mystique had been dead for years. 3-5 in home playoff games since 1998. I wonder how carefully Rodgers had thought through what he was saying, or if he was just trying to come up with an explanation for something that seemed and should be improbable, and that this--which as Max pointed out, is really just a whiney cliche spouted by pissed off fans--was what came out. It would help to hear more from him. And in my case, I need to see the replay cuz I missed the game itself.

[Pugger]

It was a botched snap. Rodgers never had it and because he was leaning back he didn't have a chance to recover it so I don't know if I'd call that coming out flat. :-|

[Joemailman]

It was a botched snap. Rodgers never had it and because he was leaning back he didn't have a chance to recover it so I don't know if I'd call that coming out flat. :-|

I think he meant the team in general was flat. He started out talking about the botched snap because that was the first play of the game.

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From Bob in his Game story on the pass/run ratio: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/275042491.html


The plan was to run extensively, according to Quarless, but when the Jets defended the Packers' three-wide formation with base personnel, McCarthy refused to run against a flooded box and finished with 50 dropbacks and 16 runs.

[Pugger]

I think he meant the team in general was flat. He started out talking about the botched snap because that was the first play of the game.

But had we not turned it over and we go and score in the first series nobody would be talking about coming out flat. I think the entire team was reeling after getting behind by 7 before everyone was in their seats. It wasn't pretty but to come back and win a game like this can be season altering even this early.

[Bossman641]

From Bob in his Game story on the pass/run ratio: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/275042491.html

Isn't this Wist' dream defense? Base personnel against 3 WR?

[Joemailman]

Isn't this Wist' dream defense? Base personnel against 3 WR?

Yes. It took away Lacy, but couldn't contain Jordy.

[hoosier]

But had we not turned it over and we go and score in the first series nobody would be talking about coming out flat. I think the entire team was reeling after getting behind by 7 before everyone was in their seats. It wasn't pretty but to come back and win a game like this can be season altering even this early.

But it wasn't just the fumbled snap on the first play, it was an entire half of being unable to stop a mediocre offense or move the ball with any consistency. If a botched first play affects the team for an entire half then something is wrong on a more fundamental level. Consider, by contrast, how the Packers responded in the home playoff game against Seattle after Grant fumbled twice in the first two series.

[3irty1]

Isn't this Wist' dream defense? Base personnel against 3 WR?

Wists dream defense is one where Capers gets a cornerback to play nose tackle and an entire football forum agreeing with the decision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esEdC0c3YI4

[denverYooper]

Much is being made about the timeout nullifying the 4th down TD pass from Smith to Kerley, but it seems that the Packers knew the play was whistled dead before it started:

@MMehtaNYDN: Clinton Dix knew play was whistled dead. As soon as Kerley caught TD, he was waving it off without looking back at refs

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Much is being made about the timeout nullifying the 4th down TD pass from Smith to Kerley, but it seems that the Packers knew the play was whistled dead before it started:

@MMehtaNYDN: Clinton Dix knew play was whistled dead. As soon as Kerley caught TD, he was waving it off without looking back at refs

Tramontana said the same thing. But House and another DB said they didn't hear it.

[Smidgeon]

That surprises me. Last time we saw much of Hayward, it was during his rookie season, and he was playing pretty amazing. It sure seems that his play then was a level above where House is now.

Seriously. What happened to Hayward? I want to believe the rookie season wasn't a fluke, but he's obviously not playing at that level now. Was he just playing against scrubs that year?

If it wasn't for last-minute financial woes, I would've had a Hayward jersey right now. At least now there's time to see if he can elevate his game again. I can't imagine a talented CB wouldn't play from scrimmage with Bush getting more from-scrimmage snaps than him. So it makes me wonder if he got severely over-hyped. I just don't know.

[Joemailman]

Hayward missed some time in training camp. MM didn't really talk about it. I wonder if the hammy is still an issue. Or maybe they just wanted the more physical House against a physical Jets team.

[denverYooper]

Tramontana said the same thing. But House and another DB said they didn't hear it.

I remember thinking the coverage seemed light on that play. I don't have the video here, but wasn't there 1 db vs 2 wr in the endzone trying to defend it?

[Bossman641]

I remember thinking the coverage seemed light on that play. I don't have the video here, but wasn't there 1 db vs 2 wr in the endzone trying to defend it?

Correct

[Joemailman]

I remember thinking the coverage seemed light on that play. I don't have the video here, but wasn't there 1 db vs 2 wr in the endzone trying to defend it?

Check out the replay at the 2:44 mark. Ha Ha and House aren't near anybody. I have to believe they were affected by hearing the whistle.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395143/article/sheldon-richardson-shoulders-blame-for-timeout-fiasco

[denverYooper]

Check out the replay at the 2:44 mark. Ha Ha and House aren't near anybody. I have to believe they were affected by hearing the whistle.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395143/article/sheldon-richardson-shoulders-blame-for-timeout-fiasco

Just like Pavlov's dogs.

[denverYooper]

Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife 15m
#Packers sack accountability - 4 sacks v. NYJ... 2 on Aaron Rodgers, 1 on Derek Sherrod, and one split by Rodgers and Lang...

[Cheesehead Craig]

Check out the replay at the 2:44 mark. Ha Ha and House aren't near anybody. I have to believe they were affected by hearing the whistle.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395143/article/sheldon-richardson-shoulders-blame-for-timeout-fiasco

The WRs and DBs by the Jets sideline stopped playing as they were right by the official who was blowing the whistle.

[Freak Out]

Check out the replay at the 2:44 mark. Ha Ha and House aren't near anybody. I have to believe they were affected by hearing the whistle.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395143/article/sheldon-richardson-shoulders-blame-for-timeout-fiasco

I pretty much hate going to the NFL website for anything anymore. Back to back advertisement spamming. Fuck you NFL.

[Joemailman]

MM said Hyde should be okay, but Mulumba suffered a significant injury.

[3irty1]

MM said Hyde should be okay, but Mulumba suffered a significant injury.

So cancer.

[hoosier]

Hayward needs to go see that yoga specialist immediately.

[pittstang5]

So cancer.

He has a knee.