Official Packers vs. Dolphins Discussion Thread Week 6

[Joemailman]

Packers favored by 3

Temperature expected to be in high 80's with chance of a thunderstorm. Hope Packers don't wilt in the 2nd half like New England did. Expect to see the green jerseys.

Dolphins pass defense is a respectable 9th, although they only have 3 INT's.

Nothing about the Dolphins offense is scary, but they don't turn the ball over.

This is, of course, the 1st meeting between the 2 teams since Joe Philbin left Green Bay.

Dolphins lead the series 10-3, although the Packers have won 3 of the last 5. Dolphins won the first 8, from 1971-1994.

[denverYooper]

Packers released Ryan Taylor and signed Dorsey to the 53...

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/insidersblog/2014/10/06/wr-dorsey-signed-to-active-roster-replaces-taylor/16827797/

Boykin better watch out.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Ryan Taylor was a demon on special teams.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Surprising, but I like Dorsey. I think he can contribute down the line. Taylor is what he is. As far as the TEs, I want the Pack to give Bostick a chance.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Dorsey was on a lot of #1 special teams units, so he's likely to get a lot of snaps on special teams. I wonder if the combination of Bostick getting healthier and Boykin getting injured allowed the Packers to go in a different direction. Also, anybody else watch Janis on Thursday? I know he caught two balls, but he appeared to really have a hard time beating press coverage. I think he needs to get stronger. I think the front office thought too much of his potential to release at the end of camp, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dorsey is more ready to contribute as a receiver this year.

[pbmax]

Ryan Taylor was a demon on special teams.

Then I think teams have been game-planning for him then.


His snap counts on special teams have varied this season. Since Week 1, when he was involved in 13 plays (48 percent), he has taken 14, 12, 4 and 12 snaps. He had one tackle in five games.

Taylor made his biggest impact as a rookie in 2011 when he finished second on special teams with 10 tackles. He had eight tackles in 2012 and five in 2013.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/insidersblog/2014/10/06/packers-release-te-ryan-taylor/16816015/

[pbmax]

Also possible, Cover 2, meet 4 wide and Lacy.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Dorsey was on a lot of #1 special teams units, so he's likely to get a lot of snaps on special teams. I wonder if the combination of Bostick getting healthier and Boykin getting injured allowed the Packers to go in a different direction. Also, anybody else watch Janis on Thursday? I know he caught two balls, but he appeared to really have a hard time beating press coverage. I think he needs to get stronger. I think the front office thought too much of his potential to release at the end of camp, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dorsey is more ready to contribute as a receiver this year.

It might be that another team tried to sign Dorsey and Thompson didn't want to lose him.

I thought Miles White outperformed Dorsey in the preseason. Heck, it looked like Gillet made more plays than Dorsey.

Like Harlan, I wanna see Janis play more, especially with Rodgers.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Ryan Taylor was a demon on special teams.

Looked like a JAG to me. I can't seem to recall a time Taylor made an "impact" play on special teams.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Packers favored by 3

Nothing about the Dolphins offense is scary, but they don't turn the ball over.

This is, of course, the 1st meeting between the 2 teams since Joe Philbin left Green Bay.



Too bad, Mike Sherman was the scapegoat in the Incognito-Martin scandal. Sherman would look good on the shoulders of his players after a victory over the Packers.

Joke aside, it looked like Tannehill has regressed without Sherman.

Edit: Looking at the the Fins' depth chart, I noticed that Daryn Colledge is their starting LG. A big day for Mike Daniels?

[Freak Out]

It will be interesting to see how the Dolphins open up against Rodgers and the O.

[hoosier]

Dolphins backup DE Derrick Shelby arrested after reportedly molesting woman at a Ft Lauderdale nightclub.


Shelby was "touching females at location without their permission," it says. Security removed him from the club, and a police officer told him several times to stop obstructing a roadway and the club entrance.

Shelby refused, according to police, and asked the officer, "What are you going to do?"

Appearing to be intoxicated, he began filming and photographing the officer, who called for backup, the affidavit states. Shelby was again asked to leave and refused before police told him he was under arrest for trespassing.

"Upon attempting to place Shelby into custody he began pushing away from officers and took an aggressive fighting stance," the affidavit says. "Shelby was placed on the ground, where he was actively resisting and attempting to brace his arms to defeat efforts to place him into custody."

Shelby was "overpowering officers," according to the supplemental report, so an officer used a stun gun on him, but to no effect because of "the proximity of the prongs on his back."

The officer used the stun gun on him again in the right shoulder, "which was temporarily effective in gaining more control over Shelby, but he immediately returned to actively resisting and trying to free his other hand," the report says.

After police stunned Shelby a third time, they were able to take him into custody and transport him to a local hospital and then the Broward Sheriff's Office jail.


"What are you going to do?" Here is what:
http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/qrq40izsgf7ddvwas2s0.jpg

[pbmax]

You really shouldn't tase someone in the face. :D

[George Cumby]

What a dick. (Shelby, not PB).

[call_me_ishmael]

Take the Packers on that spread. I think they roll 'em. Does Miami have a running game? Who is there QB? Chad Henne is a great college QB - probably not the best pro. I like GB to win by 14+.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Dolphins get 6 starters back this week, including Pouncey and Moreno. We better not sleep on the Dolphins. Philbin will have his guys fired up.

[3irty1]

Miami's offense is goofy. They try to pass the ball a ton but are much more effective on the ground. Tannehill has nearly 39 attempts per game but only 900 yards on the season.

[wootah]

Packers released Ryan Taylor

Oh the memories...

http://media.jrn.com/images/mjs-packers30_-spt_-lynn_-20-packers30(2).jpg

http://www.tcrabtree83.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TE.Packers.Christmas.Card_.2011-720x372.jpg

http://www.tcrabtree83.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/A-vax-mCUAIK6Co.jpg-large-720x479.jpg

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 8h8 hours ago
The "huge" turnaround part of story: #Packers missed 18 tackles in Week 1. Missed 24 since, according to @PFF

UNSOUND!

[denverYooper]

Dolphins get 6 starters back this week, including Pouncey and Moreno. We better not sleep on the Dolphins. Philbin will have his guys fired up.

Plus, Florida.

[Guiness]

Oh the memories...

Who's the 5th guy in the sweater, furthest to the left? I recognize Taylor, Crabtree, Finley and Quarless, but not sure who the 5th guy is. 2011 roster doesn't give me any hints, PS guy?

[TravisWilliams23]

DJ Williams?

[pbmax]

Thursday was a step in the right direction. After giving up 235 yards to Chicago, the Packers held the combination of Matt Asiata and Jerick McKinnon to a reasonable 96 yards on 22 carries (4.4 yards per carry).

One change the Packers made against the Vikings was turning strictly to their traditional 3-4 package on running downs in lieu of the new quad formation. Capers said specific looks would vary week to week based on matchups.

Capers on Defense on the rise after Vikes game. http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2014/10/06/scoreboard-defense-adding-capers/16838681/

[pbmax]

If you have to commit to one and sacrifice on the other, do you choose running game or passing game to leverage your defense against?

Here is your answer:

Point Allowed (and League Rank)

2010: 2nd (15.0)

2009: 7th (18.6) ​

[Guiness]

DJ Williams?

Yup, that's him.
http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/2013/500x305-thumbnails/500x305-20131204-williams.jpg

wonder why he doesn't show up on the Packers all-time roster? I think he did dress for most games.

[Fritz]

If you have to commit to one and sacrifice on the other, do you choose running game or passing game to leverage your defense against?

Here is your answer:

Point Allowed (and League Rank)

2010: 2nd (15.0)

2009: 7th (18.6) ​


Okay, help me out, PB. How is this my answer? Are you implying that the Packers defensed the run more in those years, or the pass? Or the run in one of those years and pass in the other?

[3irty1]

Okay, help me out, PB. How is this my answer? Are you implying that the Packers defensed the run more in those years, or the pass? Or the run in one of those years and pass in the other?

In 2009 they were notable for being the league's best rush defense. In 2010 they were notable for never leaving nickel, overall defense got better at the expense of rushing defense.

[pbmax]

Okay, help me out, PB. How is this my answer? Are you implying that the Packers defensed the run more in those years, or the pass? Or the run in one of those years and pass in the other?

3irty1 had it. 2009 featured big-bellied, hard nosed run defense and horrible pass D. 2010 was much better pass D and run D slumped, though not to the levels seen thereafter. It could also have been all Howard Green.

Its just two data points. The rest of the numbers tell a far more muddled and pathetic story:

Scoring defense by year

2014: 9th (21.1)

2013: 24th (26.8)

2012: 11th (21)

2011: 19th (22.4)

2010: 2nd (15.0)

2009: 7th (18.6) ​

[Fritz]

So can someone teach me up on Tannenhill and the Phins? Is he a young and promising guy?

What kind of defense do they run down there? And can someone make it cooler? That heat's gonna wear the Packers down. I've seen it before when they've played in Florida.

[3irty1]

To get the real story on 2013 you need to show the first 8 games and the last 8 games separately. 24th doesn't capture just how bad they got.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can't think about Miami yet. I'm still trying to deal emotionally with the roster switch from Brian Taylor to Jimmy Dorsey. I don't like change.

[Guiness]

So can someone teach me up on Tannenhill and the Phins? Is he a young and promising guy?

What kind of defense do they run down there? And can someone make it cooler? That heat's gonna wear the Packers down. I've seen it before when they've played in Florida.

here's everything you need to know about Tannenhill

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1581153!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/lauren16s-2-web.jpg

She also has perfect teeth. Other than that, and a good game vs Oakland, I don't think he has much going for him.

[3irty1]

So can someone teach me up on Tannenhill and the Phins? Is he a young and promising guy?

What kind of defense do they run down there? And can someone make it cooler? That heat's gonna wear the Packers down. I've seen it before when they've played in Florida.

Both on offense and defense the Dolphins are extremely conservative. They are set to move the chains on offense and defense. They don't produce big plays or give up big plays. Its a decent recipe for an underdog to shorten the game.

[MadScientist]

To get the real story on 2013 you need to show the first 8 games and the last 8 games separately. 24th doesn't capture just how bad they got.

The first 8 they gave up 23.1 (which would have been ~15th over the whole season. I didn't do an average for the first 8 games of every team)
The last 8 they gave up 30.4 (dead last - Minn was 30.0).

[MadScientist]

Both on offense and defense the Dolphins are extremely conservative. They are set to move the chains on offense and defense. They don't produce big plays or give up big plays. Its a decent recipe for an underdog to shorten the game.

That is a bad match-up for the Packers. The Packers defense has had trouble getting off the field but has made some key turnovers. The Packers offense is impatient. If a quick strike isn't there, they have trouble grinding out and moving chains.

No defensive turnovers and no quick-strikes = trouble.

[hoosier]

Every game this year except Chicago has contained a potential bad match up for the Packers: a strong ground game (Sea, NYJ, Minn, Mia), misdirection and a running QB (Sea, NYJ), a defensive front that can pressure Rodgers while just rushing four (Sea, Det). If GB loses to Mia because the defense cannot get off the field, that will be one indication that this team isn't set up to make a deep run this year.

[3irty1]

Miami plays the way they do because they are bad and they know it. The Packers would have to be extra flat to drop this one IMO. Miami isn't good enough at any one thing for me to worry about matchups.

[Joemailman]

This is the type of game that will tell us whether the Packers are going to have a great regular season (12-4 or better), or whether they'll be scrambling at the end of the season just to make the playoffs.

[pbmax]

This is the type of game that will tell us whether the Packers are going to have a great regular season (12-4 or better), or whether they'll be scrambling at the end of the season just to make the playoffs.

Oh sure, put that on red's shoulders.

[pbmax]

She seems to absorb all the UV in the vicinity and leaves him pale in several key areas. Maybe she has superpowers.



here's everything you need to know about Tannenhill

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1581153!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/lauren16s-2-web.jpg

She also has perfect teeth. Other than that, and a good game vs Oakland, I don't think he has much going for him.

[Joemailman]

Oh sure, put that on red's shoulders.

Red's on a roll. Ride that horse until he drops.

[gbgary]

hate playing in fla. we seldom win there. wonder what our record is in fla games? maybe it's the heat?

[smuggler]

I live in Florida and the weather has been unseasonably cool the last week or so. If it carries on until Sunday, I would say you can set aside concerns about GB wearing down.

[hoosier]

High of 87 on Sunday with chance of t-storms. In other words, hot and muggy.

[Joemailman]

I live in Florida and the weather has been unseasonably cool the last week or so. If it carries on until Sunday, I would say you can set aside concerns about GB wearing down.The forecast for Miami is upper 80's all week. http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/miami-gardens-fl/33056/daily-weather-forecast/2243453?day=5

[pittstang5]

This was probably brought up when the schedule was released - Boy, the Packers got hosed this year with road games.

Start the season in Seattle, then have to play in Florida, twice (Miami & Tampa Bay) and have to play in New Orleans too.

[3irty1]

The Packers have an advantage going into this one in that Kevin Coyle, the Dolphins D coordinator, also built his chops under for Marvin Lewis the same as Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer. Their schemes should be similar although the stength of Miami's defense is definitely their D line.

Philbin made his way into the league as an offensive line guru and has stitched together both great zone-blocking offenses and power running offenses during his career. He surely takes a lot of pride in that aspect of offense although Miami's line hasn't looked great so far. Getting back Pouncy might help, but I still expect a big day for our front 4.

Any word on Datone's injury?

[run pMc]

Philbin will have his guys ready to play.

That said, GB should win most of the matchups. To me, this game is about Randall Cobb, and the war in the trenches (OL & DL).

Mia's DL is pretty good, so if Rodgers stays upright and Lacy finds room this will bode well. On the other side, if Tannehill gets pressured I think he will make mistakes.
Would be surprised if they don't shadow Jordy, so Cobb ought to have chances against that secondary.

[Fritz]

The write up on Miami reminded me of Detroit's front four - pretty darn good, but not so good in the back end. I'm a little concerned by that, and after I read about Miami's offensive line, I wondered if GB's defensive line could stop their run.

Those issues, combined with the heat, make me worry a bit that the Packers could wilt in the second half.

[Joemailman]

Datone Jones and Boykin did not practice today. Josh Boyd and Sam Barrington did practice.

[Joemailman]

Datone Jones and Boykin did not practice today. Josh Boyd and Sam Barrington did practice.

MM said Boykin will not practice tomorrow, and therefore will probably not play Sunday. Jones is day to day.

[gbgary]

mm said jones was in the day-to-day category.

[smuggler]

The forecast for Miami is upper 80's all week. http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/miami-gardens-fl/33056/daily-weather-forecast/2243453?day=5

That's pretty cool for Florida, guys. If it's overcast, or better yet, lightly raining, the Packers basically have no disadvantage playing in Florida.

[Rutnstrut]

I don't feel as at ease about this game as some of you. But I don't think the Fins have that great of an offense, so the defense shouldn't be too bad.

[red]

Red's on a roll. Ride that horse until he drops.
Pfff. No biggie. Ive been hard at work all week coming up with something creative for this weeks thread

[Joemailman]

Quite a bit of the country getting Packers/Dolphins. Must suck to be in northwest Wisconsin. http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2014&wk=6

[pbmax]

Quite a bit of the country getting Packers/Dolphins. Must suck to be in northwest Wisconsin. http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2014&wk=6

Does that happen often? Seems like that would be Packer territory given history and distance.

I can't believe I am going to have to stream Dallas and Seattle to avoid the Bears/Falcons disappointment fest.

[pbmax]

Remember, the season is over. Also, opponent adjustments aren't in so that Vikings win will deflate as they get to Week 8 and the Seattle loss is probably not enough to make up for it. Still Slocum has the top-ranked (tied w/ Offense) on the team. Mind boggling.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2014/week-5-dvoa-ratings



TEAM TotDVOA LWeek DAVE W-L O.DVOA O.Rank D.DVOA D.Rank ST.DVOA ST.Rank
1 DEN 41.3% 3 34.5% 1 3-1 26.3% 1 -15.6% 2 -0.6% 19
2 SEA 38.5% 2 29.4% 2 3-1 23.8% 2 -12.0% 4 2.6% 9
3 GB 29.3% 6 25.8% 3 3-2 18.1% 5 -6.4% 12 4.7% 5
4 BAL 22.6% 5 15.2% 4 3-2 10.8% 10 -10.2% 5 1.6% 13
5 CIN 19.5% 1 13.3% 6 3-1 14.4% 6 -7.2% 9 -2.1% 22
6 ATL 18.7% 4 12.5% 7 2-3 22.1% 3 12.7% 28 9.3% 2
7 SD 15.7% 12 14.7% 5 4-1 9.0% 11 -5.6% 13 1.0% 17
8 NYG 9.8% 11 6.2% 9 3-2 3.2% 14 -8.8% 7 -2.3% 23
9 DET 9.2% 7 4.5% 13 3-2 -3.9% 20 -22.6% 1 -9.5% 30
10 NE 6.7% 23 8.9% 8 3-2 -5.4% 21 -6.5% 11 5.6% 4
11 PIT 6.5% 15 5.5% 12 3-2 10.9% 9 6.3% 21 1.8% 12
12 DAL 5.8% 13 2.6% 17 4-1 11.1% 8 7.4% 24 2.1% 10
13 PHI 5.6% 9 5.6% 10 4-1 -5.5% 22 -1.0% 16 10.2% 1
14 KC 4.9% 18 2.0% 18 2-3 4.3% 12 1.0% 17 1.6% 14
15 BUF 4.4% 10 2.6% 16 3-2 -17.4% 27 -13.8% 3 8.0% 3
16 SF 4.1% 19 5.5% 11 3-2 0.5% 18 -9.9% 6 -6.3% 29

[Joemailman]

Does that happen often? Seems like that would be Packer territory given history and distance.

I can't believe I am going to have to stream Dallas and Seattle to avoid the Bears/Falcons disappointment fest.

I don't know how often it happens, but they're certainly closer to Minneapolis than they are to Green Bay or Milwaukee. Do we have any 'Rats from out there?

[Packgator]

wonder what our record is in fla games? maybe it's the heat?

Packers all-time record against Florida teams in Florida is 15-21-1

at Miami.... 1-6

at Tampa.... 12-14-1

at Jax........ 2-1

The Packers only win at Miami came the last time they played there. The Packers won 34-22 and the game was played on October 22, 2006.

[hoosier]

That's pretty cool for Florida, guys. If it's overcast, or better yet, lightly raining, the Packers basically have no disadvantage playing in Florida.

Maybe cool for Florida but not so much for northern Wisconsin. Don't forget that it takes your body a while to acclimate to a new climate. High 80s with high humidity is going to feel like a sauna to a body accustomed to 50s and 60s.

[pbmax]

Some teams should abandon the run. Surprisingly, the Packers are not among them.

Which Teams Should Abandon the Run? (http://archive.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2013/10/which-teams-should-abandon-run.html)



Rank TeamO Run EPA/P Pass EPA/P Pass-Run Diff
1 NO -0.18 0.35 0.53
2 DEN 0.03 0.48 0.45
3 SD 0.00 0.33 0.33
4 BLT -0.25 0.08 0.33
5 PIT -0.23 0.07 0.30
6 ATL -0.05 0.23 0.28
7 NE -0.15 0.08 0.23
8 NYG -0.19 0.03 0.22
9 DET -0.03 0.17 0.20
10 SEA 0.00 0.19 0.19
11 MIA -0.11 0.08 0.19
12 WAS -0.06 0.12 0.18
13 GB 0.05 0.22 0.17
14 SL -0.10 0.06 0.16
15 TEN -0.04 0.11 0.15
16 DAL 0.07 0.17 0.10
17 CIN -0.03 0.07 0.10
18 IND 0.13 0.22 0.09
19 SF 0.00 0.07 0.07
20 KC -0.05 0.01 0.06
21 OAK -0.05 0.01 0.06
22 ARZ -0.11 -0.05 0.06
23 CAR 0.03 0.08 0.05
24 TB -0.07 -0.05 0.02
25 MIN 0.07 0.09 0.02
26 NYJ -0.06 -0.05 0.01
27 CHI 0.06 0.05 -0.01
28 PHI 0.16 0.14 -0.02
29 CLV 0.02 -0.01 -0.03
30 BUF -0.02 -0.06 -0.04
31 HST -0.01 -0.09 -0.08
32 JAX -0.12 -0.24 -0.12

[Maxie the Taxi]

From: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/14014/starter-pack-delusional-in-the-miami-heat

Corey Linsley's take on playing in hot (or cold) weather:


"I like it because I feel like the hot is like, you get like delusional, you just stop caring," said Linsley, a native of Youngstown, Ohio. "Like I feel like when it's just hot, I feel like 'Oh man! It’s hot, like shoot.' You start like complaining. But when it's like really hot, and really humid and you’re like 'Dude this sucks. I'm going to go as hard as I can.'"

Hmmm. I wonder what Corey scored on his Wonderlic?

[pbmax]

From: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/14014/starter-pack-delusional-in-the-miami-heat

Corey Linsley's take on playing in hot (or cold) weather:



Hmmm. I wonder what Corey scored on his Wonderlic?

That's a man who straps his chinstrap on TOO tight.

[MadScientist]

From: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/14014/starter-pack-delusional-in-the-miami-heat

Corey Linsley's take on playing in hot (or cold) weather:



Hmmm. I wonder what Corey scored on his Wonderlic?

I really don't want the Packers getting delusional in the heat - that would be heat stroke which is not conducive to playing well. The real problem is the high humidity which makes sweat and the sideline misters less effective.

[Maxie the Taxi]

High humidity is key, no doubt. But in my experience, as Smuggler noted, the real key is whether or not there is sun. The Florida sun is brutal and if it is out it can feel like an extra 20 degrees of oppressive heat.

The secret is hydration. You have to get lots of water into you whether you feel like you need it or not.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hmmm. I wonder what Corey scored on his Wonderlic?
You got me intrigued. Packers have a MENSA club at center, Tretter scored 32, Linsley a 33.

Here are some average scores by position and career:
Offensive tackle – 26
Center – 25
Quarterback – 24
Guard – 23
Tight end – 22
Safety – 19
Linebacker – 19
Cornerback – 18
Wide receiver – 17
Fullback – 17
Halfback – 16

Systems Analyst – 32
Chemist – 31
Accountant – 28
Executive – 28
Teacher – 28
Copywriter – 27
Salesperson – 25
Nurse – 23
Firefighter – 21
Train Conductor – 21
Welder – 17
Janitor - 14
Internet Forum Operator - 9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic_test

[Maxie the Taxi]

You got me intrigued. Packers have a MENSA club at center, Tretter scored 32, Linsley a 33.


Like that's like delusional, dude! When it comes to like brains, like shoot. The centers like win!

[Zool]

Internet Forum Operator - 9

Heyoooo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/tlj101010/Various/Youarecorrect.png

[Fritz]

I am bummed that I'm going to have to look up some illegal feed on my computer in order to watch the game this Sunday. I'm really curious about how the O-line, the young receivers and tight end(s), and D-line will play this week.

I feel that we kinda know what we have in the defensive backfield and the linebackers, but the d-line is still potentially developing. I feel that the o-line has a lot to prove - they're not exactly living up to the hype these first five games. And it ain't the young guys that are the problem. They haven't been horrible, but they've been inconsistent.

[3irty1]

I once had to take a Wonderlic test to get a shitty job while I was in college.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I once had to take a Wonderlic test to get a shitty job while I was in college.

And?

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://linapps.s3.amazonaws.com/photomojo/fox11online.com/photos/2011/04/g208-packers-first-round-picks-2000-10/3931-2002-javon-walker-da8fa.jpg

This should be a caption-writing contest.

[3irty1]

And?

12 minutes goes by fast. I didn't finish it. I got a 44, which may be great for the NFL but was only good for 2nd place at this grocery store. The old lady who worked in floral apparently got a 48.

[Pugger]

I don't feel as at ease about this game as some of you. But I don't think the Fins have that great of an offense, so the defense shouldn't be too bad.

My worry is Miami has a decent running game and this is our biggest defensive weakness. I think it is imperative that we get an early lead and not turn the ball over. If we do this and force Tannehill to beat us I like our chances. I hope it is overcast and/or rainy to keep it cooler. Fortunately most of the guys on our team come from warmer climates than GB so as long as they hydrate well this week they should be okay.

[Maxie the Taxi]

There is a great post by the reporter who covers Miami on scouting Miami and this game at Acme Packing: http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2014/10/10/6952931/packers-vs-dolphins-q-a-with-the-phinsider

It's a pretty fair assessment. Excerpt:

APC: If you were game planning against the Dolphins, how would you attack them on offense? On defense?


Based on how the Dolphins have played this year, as a defense, I would want to force the ball into Tannehill's hands. Not that he cannot torch a defense at times, but based on the fact that he cannot do that consistently yet. Make him prove he can attack you through the air.


That would mean I am stacking the box to prevent Miller from running, and I am crashing the middle of the line (depending on if and where Pouncey is playing) to try to get pressure.


Miami's got some playmakers at receiver, especially as Mike Wallace (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71118/mike-wallace) has started to prove he is a wide receiver and not just a one-trick, run a go-route, pony. Brian Hartline (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71151/brian-hartline), Jarvis Landry (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/245583/jarvis-landry), and tight end Charles Clay (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/130887/charles-clay) all can make plays. Daniel Thomas (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/131045/daniel-thomas) and/or Moreno can add versatility coming out of the backfield (Miller still needs to work on his pass catching), and the weapons are there for a successful passing attack. Force Tannehill to make quick decisions in a congested pocket will prove to be the best defensive game plan.


As for attacking Miami's defense, that's a little harder, and I'm not trying to be a homer. Miami has the seventh best defense in the league right now, based on yards per game allowed, with the ninth pass defense and the thirteenth rush defense. They are putting together a solid defense and getting after opposing offenses.


That said, they are definitely not perfect. Attack the linebackers, and you will probably find the weak spot on the defense. Starting middle linebacker Koa Misi (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108462/koa-misi) is expected to come back this week and Jelani Jenkins (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/193587/jelani-jenkins) has proven he can play the strong side linebacker position after Dannell Ellerbe (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71666/dannell-ellerbe) was placed on injured reserve, but Philip Wheeler (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/34403/philip-wheeler) is still a question mark at times on the weak side. The Dolphins have also done strange things like had Cameron Wake (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/69212/cameron-wake) drop back into coverage on tight ends or running backs, working as a linebacker instead of a defensive end/pass rusher.
Adjust your offensive lineup to expose the linebackers, and attack them on the ground, something Eddie Lacy (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/193445/eddie-lacy) should be able to do, and you will probably find the best success.

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Final PC before Miami game.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 12m 12 minutes ago
#Packers injury report
Bakhtiari probable
Barrington questionable
Boyd probable
Jones questionable
Boykin out

Packer Report @PackerReport · 11m 11 minutes ago
MM says Datone Jones is very optimistic. Doing everything he can to get ready.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 10m 10 minutes ago
MM calls some conversations with younger injured players "useless" because they always think they can play.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 10m 10 minutes ago
MM on #94Alpha slogan. "That's something that's for our locker room." 94 is 94th season.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 9m 9 minutes ago
MM used it during pre-training camp speech to the team. First we saw it was in locker room this week. Burnett mentioned it yesterday.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 7m 7 minutes ago
MM has a lot of confidence in Dorsey, who was promoted this week. Says he "earned this opportunity."

Packer Report @PackerReport · 8m 8 minutes ago
MM on Nick Perry. "Nick Perry's a good football player." Very productive on per-snap basis. Hopefully clears injury hurdle this season.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 4m 4 minutes ago
McCarthy said he needs more seven-play drives. Lots of big plays but not enough consistency.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 3m 3 minutes ago
MM was never worried about Linsley. Sharp, played at Ohio State, strong. Hints that he'll stay in lineup.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 2m 2 minutes ago
MM points to Rodgers and especially Quarless as reasons Bostick not playing on offense more than Bostick himself.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 2m 2 minutes ago
Says he "wouldn't be surprised" if Bostick gets some opportunities on Sunday.

Packer Report @PackerReport · 1m 1 minute ago
McCarthy in incredibly good and conversational mood today. Always appreciated.

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Bob catches up with Daryn Colledge, without interviewing him. Same guy, not overly physical, can angle block in the run and pass block if you don't overpower him with a bull rush or power move. Works well in the misdirection game Miami has with Chip Kelly protege running the O.

And the misdirection game is the only thing about this game that has me worried.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/dolphins-starting-guard-daryn-colledge-a-survivor-b99368530z1-278875401.html


Yet, the Dolphins' misdirection-heavy attack enables someone as clever as Colledge to get by using proper angles and taking advantage of an opponent's eagerness.

And TJ Lang dams with faint praise:


"He was a great technician," said Lang, Colledge's teammate in 2009-'10. "He was a guy who was always very consistent. He was always very professional in going about his business.

"I rely a lot more on being a very physical presence. I'm not going to ever give up on a play.

"Not saying that Daryn did. Everybody's got a different style of playing. To be in his ninth year now and still starting, he's doing something right. I respect him."

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Apparently is wasn't just Bart Starr or Ozzie Newsome, should just keep drafting guys from Alabama.

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 12h12 hours ago
#Packers are in bottom quarter of league in missed tackles. But ... well, that'll be in the World's Best Preview tomorrow.

[gbgary]

12 minutes goes by fast. I didn't finish it. I got a 44, which may be great for the NFL but was only good for 2nd place at this grocery store. The old lady who worked in floral apparently got a 48.

lol. greatness!