Panther Hunting: Winners and Losers

[call_me_ishmael]

Let's see your lists. I missed the game but sounded like a slaughtering.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Winners (pimps):

Claymaker - Played best game of the season. Was active against both run and pass. Allowed Newton to escape on a would-be sack, but Superman didn't get first down, so no problemo.

Cobb - Plenty of YAC. Another TD. Lock this guy up!

Rodgers - Was more efficient than a Microsoft Surface Pro.

Defense - The blueprint for beating the dreaded read-option is by scoring early and often. The D did its job by forcing a bunch of 3 and outs, and the O by scoring a bunch. By the time it was 21-0 the Panthers had little choice but to abandon the dreaded read-option.

Tramon - Gave up a TD, but had good coverage. The receiver just made a play. A winner just for showing up.

Losers (hoes):

McCarthy - WTF? "Benched" Rodgers early in 4th quarter. Yo fat man, some of us are trying to win fantasy football games, dammit!

EDIT: The 5 receiver set with Cobb and Dorsey in the backfield ain't bad, even though the play resulted in like 3 yards. I wanna see more of it!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Dom showed major pimp hand shutting down his old team

Direct TV was loser for switching game. You don't do that to certain teams.

[Bretsky]

Dom Capers
Clay Matthews
AROD
Cobb
Nelson as always
Lacy

[Maxie the Taxi]

Unsung heroes:

Ha Ha played another solid game.

Sean Richardson was all over the field.

Hayward, House and Williams.

Micah Hyde fielded a ground ball which might not have worked out, but otherwise I like the Hyde/Cobb punt return set.

[pbmax]

Winners:

M3, Dom, Rodgers, Starks, Bulaga (home field makes him a different player), Cobb, Nelson (nice downfield block), Rodgers (nice downfield block) and Adams.

Losers:

Drew Brees and Rob Ryan (its 38-3 when the backups went in, no Packers losers. But Brees and Ryan weren't willing to help. Losers)

Honorable Mention: Guion. He has really turned it around. He isn't as stout as Raji or Pick against a double, but he can really get an edge and penetrate.

[Guiness]

Winners:

I can't believe no one is mentioning Red's inspiring post to launch the game day thread, that's some major stud work right there.

Jerry Jones - early nomination for NFL executive of the year with what he's done with that team this year! :whaa: lol, wouldn't that burn all the other owners???

Losers:

Bakh? Rodgers was sacked twice, I think at least one of those, the sack by Davis, was on him. There seemed to be some pressure coming from the left side of the line.

[esoxx]

Winners: esoxx - 'twas my birthday yesterday and got to spend it in Lambeau with my daughter watching the Packers kick some serious ass. Best. Birthday. Ever.

[3irty1]

Winners:

M3, Dom, Rodgers, Starks, Bulaga (home field makes him a different player), Cobb, Nelson (nice downfield block), Rodgers (nice downfield block) and Adams.

Losers:

Drew Brees and Rob Ryan (its 38-3 when the backups went in, no Packers losers. But Brees and Ryan weren't willing to help. Losers)

Honorable Mention: Guion. He has really turned it around. He isn't as stout as Raji or Pick against a double, but he can really get an edge and penetrate.

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I can't tell if its the crowd noise, coincidence that he's faced some of the deadliest edge rushers away this year or both but its been night and day.

[pbmax]

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I can't tell if its the crowd noise, coincidence that he's faced some of the deadliest edge rushers away this year or both but its been night and day.

I think its his legs or his quickness suffering after injuries (possibly the injury from this year). His first kick step isn't what it was. It hurts against wide speed and is worse on the road.

[gbgary]

Winners: esoxx - 'twas my birthday yesterday and got to spend it in Lambeau with my daughter watching the Packers kick some serious ass. Best. Birthday. Ever.

cool! was there with my step-son breaking his LAMBEAU cheery. lol

[esoxx]

cool! was there with my step-son breaking his LAMBEAU cheery. lol

Nice! The cherry (no pun intended) on top was having the Badger band at the game. Always a good time.

[3irty1]

Winners:

Coaches. They knew Carolina better than Carolina knew themselves. They finally stuffed a running QB and did it with the newer, smaller, faster, more Napoleonic complex DL.

WRs. It has become a major risk to play press coverage on Jordy. Cobb is making people miss again and excelling in the congestion of the middle and endzone. Adams is playing incredibly well for a rookie WR. The strength of this group is that there is no tape to watch. They aren't just spamming one route combo like the back shoulder in 2011, they are each running the full route tree and running it perfectly.

Losers:

When the best thing you can say about your TE's is that DickRod can hit a moving target pretty well you've got a group of Jags.

Drew Brees you pile of crap. He better suck that hard for us this week.

[pbmax]

newer, smaller, faster, more Napoleonic complex DL.

.

They should have named the NASCAR defense "massed artillery".

[MadScientist]

Winners:
MM & Capers - Carolina was out-coached.
Cobb - working toward payday.
Rodgers - one slight overthrow from a perfect rating.
Defense - they all stepped up

Losers:
Um, er, second stringers - gave up 14 points in garbage time, and couldn't move the ball.
Boykin - garbage time only, lower than Dorsey
Janis - healthy scratch, can't even beat out a guy from the PS or a guy coming back from injury who has done nothing this year.
stats - final numbers just don't properly show the complete ass-kicking that the Packers put on the Panthers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Boykin - garbage time only, lower than Dorsey
Janis - healthy scratch, can't even beat out a guy from the PS or a guy coming back from injury who has done nothing this year.

Although Boykin hasn't done much this year, it's not sure that he has been terrible. Cobb had slow start too, probably a whole team issue.

I was pissed that Boykin started ahead of Janis. But now that I am a day older and a day wiser, somebody had to sit down because of uncertainty at linebacker, and you don't want to lose Boykin mentally, so it was his turn to play.

[Fritz]

Did Barrington flash anything in his first start?

Winner:

Dom Capers for not playing Brad Jones?

[MadScientist]

Although Boykin hasn't done much this year, it's not sure that he has been terrible. Cobb had slow start too, probably a whole team issue.

I was pissed that Boykin started ahead of Janis. But now that I am a day older and a day wiser, somebody had to sit down because of uncertainty at linebacker, and you don't want to lose Boykin mentally, so it was his turn to play.
Boykin had a few drops early and fell out of Rodgers favor, especially with the emergence of Adams. He made my list, more or less because there were no starters who deserved to be called losers. Still he hasn't lived up to what we thought he would be this year, and this game exemplifies that. Janis makes too many mistakes to get PT and isn't the (new) core special team player that Dorsey is. Just hoping for more based on him making plays regularly in the preseason.

[Carolina_Packer]

Winners:

I can't believe no one is mentioning Red's inspiring post to launch the game day thread, that's some major stud work right there.

Jerry Jones - early nomination for NFL executive of the year with what he's done with that team this year! :whaa: lol, wouldn't that burn all the other owners???

Losers:

Bakh? Rodgers was sacked twice, I think at least one of those, the sack by Davis, was on him. There seemed to be some pressure coming from the left side of the line.

Guiness, I seem to recall one of those sacks was because of a poor sustained block by Richard Rodgers. If I'm recalling right, A-Rod stepped up in the pocket and RichRod lost control of Thomas Davis who chased Rodgers from behind as he approached the line of scrimmage. RichRod needs to learn how to block better. They don't seem ready to use him in the passing game, so if he can't block, what good is he at this point?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Boykin did not catch and pass and wasn't targeted Sunday. Boykin played 12 of 58 plays.

Barrington had one tackle and one assist. I think I heard his name mentioned once or twice in 29 plays (out of 69).

As for Janis, his small school career is a severe handicap, especially from Arod's point of view:


Q. There’s a level of trust you have to earn before the plays do come your way. How do you get to that point?


A. Janis: It’s putting in the time in meetings. Whether it’s with Aaron and them, if he asks the question you respond with the right answer, just so in the back of his head he knows I’m going to be in the right spot. I think that’s the biggest thing.
...
...

Q. What do you need to continue to get better at?


A. Janis: Just things like reading coverages, all those other things that the vets are pretty good at that I’m not used to doing just because I’m coming from Saginaw Valley. We really didn’t have to read coverages too much. Doing things like that, and I think attacking the ball in the air is something I really need to work on. There’s not much separation at this level like there was at Saginaw. I usually had 5 yards of separation. So I think that’s something I need to work on the most, just so that DB can’t make a play on the ball.


Q. So at Saginaw it was just a matter of, “I’m faster than you, and that’s all that matters?”


A. Janis: For the most part, it was pretty much, “Just run fast and get open.” We did have some plays where you’d have to read if the middle of the field was open or closed, but that’s pretty much it. We never really had checks or anything like that. It was just, play was called, and the quarterback would read the coverage and throw where he was supposed to throw. That’s something we had to get used to.



From: http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2014/10/18/qa-janis-still-getting-speed/17528227/

[Pugger]

Did Barrington flash anything in his first start?

Winner:

Dom Capers for not playing Brad Jones?

:bclap:

[MadScientist]

loser:
Panther DB Charles Godfrey. He got the ax after the Packers game:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/21/panthers-release-defensive-back-charles-godfrey/

Not quite the same as getting coaches fired like the Packers did a couple of years ago, but still a sign of an impressive performance.

[Fritz]

Sounds like Nick Perry might be finding his niche. Not exactly an every-down All Pro, but maybe an important role as a designated pass rusher, maybe a run stopper. I wonder if he can cover anyone.

[Joemailman]

Sounds like Nick Perry might be finding his niche. Not exactly an every-down All Pro, but maybe an important role as a designated pass rusher, maybe a run stopper. I wonder if he can cover anyone.

Probably not very well, but as you say, he's a niche player. There's room for a guy who can do 2 of the things you mentioned. As Meatloaf said, don't be sad, because 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

[Zool]

Probably not very well, but as you say, he's a niche player. There's room for a guy who can do 2 of the things you mentioned. As Meatloaf said, don't be sad, because 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

I'll set an edge (set edge oooooh)
I rush the QB (QB ooooooh)
But there ain't no way I'll ever cover Tight Ends
Ted don't be sad (don't be sad)

[Fritz]

Well, my guess is that he comes into camp next year claiming he wants to be a "complete" outside linebacker.

Though man, you never see anything in the papers from him. He must not like to talk to the press at all. Or the press doesn't want to talk to him. Or both.

[red]

Tramon needs to learn how to jump. He gave up two big catches to their giant rookie who "outjumped" tramon for both plays. Tramon got all of about 3 inches off the ground on both plays. If he could have gotten 4 inches off the ground he could have broken up or even picked off both balls.

I can get 4 inches off the ground. And i'm white, older then tramon, have a nice beer gut and only have one good leg

[Maxie the Taxi]

Tramon needs to learn how to jump. He gave up two big catches to their giant rookie who "outjumped" tramon for both plays. Tramon got all of about 3 inches off the ground on both plays. If he could have gotten 4 inches off the ground he could have broken up or even picked off both balls.

I can get 4 inches off the ground. And i'm white, older then tramon, have a nice beer gut and only have one good leg

Can you get 4 inches off the ground running full speed and facing sideways with your hands in the air and being bumped by a 230 lb WR? :whaa:

[3irty1]

Tramon needs to learn how to jump. He gave up two big catches to their giant rookie who "outjumped" tramon for both plays. Tramon got all of about 3 inches off the ground on both plays. If he could have gotten 4 inches off the ground he could have broken up or even picked off both balls.

I can get 4 inches off the ground. And i'm white, older then tramon, have a nice beer gut and only have one good leg

Might just be his ankle. I've seen him dunk a basketball.

[QBME]

Can you get 4 inches off the ground running full speed and facing sideways with your hands in the air and being bumped by a 230 lb WR? :whaa:

Also, Tramon was out all week getting his ankle well enough to even play. Probably had 25 pounds of tape on it. Kinda minimizes his spring.

[Pugger]

Probably not very well, but as you say, he's a niche player. There's room for a guy who can do 2 of the things you mentioned. As Meatloaf said, don't be sad, because 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Yes, you can never have enough guys who can rush the passer.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yes, you can never have enough guys

nature is harsh. Men talk a good game, but one is plenty.