Bear Week 2: Welcome to Mel Tucker, Interim Coach

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 16s16 seconds ago
McCarthy: Sam (Shields) looked good today, went through everything. Morgan (Burnett) did pretty much everything.

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 19m19 minutes ago
McCarthy: T.J. Lang was in rehab mode today. I'll get into specifics on Wednesday.

[Zool]

Linsley grading out well at PFF. Maybe Tretter's place is a super sub for the 3 inside spots.

http://i.imgur.com/00Q2C65.png?1

[denverYooper]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 4m4 minutes ago
When asked about assessment of halfway point, McCarthy said some changes would be noticeable as the week goes on. #Packers

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 48s49 seconds ago
The #Packers have cut Derek Sherrod, per the transaction wire

[pbmax]

And its over.

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 2m2 minutes ago
The #Packers have cut Derek Sherrod, per the transaction wire

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 57s57 seconds ago
Sherrod was a first-round pick in 2011. The #Packers re-signed RB Rajion Neal and LB Joe Thomas to the practice squad. Cut DL Joe Kruger and TE Ike Ariguzo

[pbmax]

Tretter is now active.

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 2m2 minutes ago
#Packers have activated C JC Tretter to the 53-man roster and released former first-round pick, Derek Sherrod.

[denverYooper]

Linsley grading out well at PFF. Maybe Tretter's place is a super sub for the 3 inside spots.

http://i.imgur.com/00Q2C65.png?1

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1m1 minute ago
#Packers have activated C JC Tretter to the 53-man roster and released former first-round pick, Derek Sherrod.

(just in case no one realized the Packers cut Sherrod, here's your 3rd post in a row)

[pbmax]

PB Max @ESPNpbmax 1 minute late, 1 dollar short
I am hearing the Packers are activating JC Tretter from the IR DTR and may, indeed, release Derek Sherrod to make room.

[denverYooper]

Well... I suppose that speaks well of the team's overall health.

[Joemailman]

Sherrod sucks. I wish they's cut that guy. But TT always hangs onto his high draft picks.

[pbmax]

Sherrod sucks. I wish they's cut that guy. But TT always hangs onto his high draft picks.

Its always about ego with that guy. Can't admit he is wrong.

[pbmax]

The 2011 draft gets more brutal every week.

[Joemailman]

Jay Cutler at Lambeau:

0-3, 49-102, 571 yards, 2 TD, 10 INT, 48.0 passer rating.

[ThunderDan]

Jay Cutler at Lambeau:

0-3, 49-102, 571 yards, 2 TD, 10 INT, 48.0 passer rating.

Didn't he sin last year when Rodgers got hurt?

[Joemailman]

The 2011 draft gets more brutal every week.

They better get Randall Cobb signed.

[ThunderDan]

Didn't he sin last year when Rodgers got hurt?

Damn small keypads on phones.

[Joemailman]

Didn't he sin last year when Rodgers got hurt?

Cutler didn't play in 2011 either. Bears hoping the Bucs release Josh McCown.

[Joemailman]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/03919b3de21ec5c064828845538bfd7e/tumblr_nbt4v1AW281rge9rdo1_400.gif

[Tyrion Lannister]

Its always about ego with that guy. Can't admit he is wrong.

To rub salt into the wound, Thompson could've/should've drafted DeMarco Murray instead. :???:

[pbmax]

To rub salt into the wound, Thompson could've/should've drafted DeMarco Murray instead. :???:

Its the one position that arguably the Packers have little need at. Now if you found an ILB ....

[pbmax]

Datone Jones will practice in full Wednesday.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/281379561.html

[Fritz]

And its over.

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 2m2 minutes ago
The #Packers have cut Derek Sherrod, per the transaction wire

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 57s57 seconds ago
Sherrod was a first-round pick in 2011. The #Packers re-signed RB Rajion Neal and LB Joe Thomas to the practice squad. Cut DL Joe Kruger and TE Ike Ariguzo

Wait a sec...I thought Joe Thomas was on IR. No? Was he just hanging out in the streets somewhere?

[denverYooper]

Datone Jones will practice in full Wednesday.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/281379561.html

Until he has a setback.

[rollo]

Jay Cutler at Lambeau:

0-3, 49-102, 571 yards, 2 TD, 10 INT, 48.0 passer rating.

And this is precisely why I will start the GB defense in fantasy this week. Time to roll the dice baby!

[pittstang5]

There's one very important question for Sunday night's game, that trumps all questions.

Who is going to start the game day thread?

[pbmax]

Until he has a setback.

No one is going out on a limb and predicting he will make it through the entire practice unscathed.

[ThunderDan]

There's one very important question for Sunday night's game, that trumps all questions.

Who is going to start the game day thread?

Anybody but Red.

[Carolina_Packer]

You gonna take that Red?

[George Cumby]

Let's go Red.

[Joemailman]

Can't be Red. He had a losing GameDay thread last week.

[pittstang5]

Saw Lang and Sitton did not practice today. Lang - we know about the ankle, Sitton - I heard it was his foot. I hope this one of MM's "We're just being smart" with Sitton. We can't lose anymore O-lineman.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/281648301.html

[Patler]

Big Toe:


Packers guard Josh Sitton said that he has torn a ligament on the bottom of his big toe and will meet with team physicial Patrick McKenzie Thursday to evaluate his condition.

Sitton said he tried an orthodic Wednesday to help alleviate the pain in the toe and may try to practice Thursday. But he said he needed to talk with McKenzie to see what the risk factors were as he decides whether to pursue playing this week.

"What risk I have of re-injurying it and what not," Sitton said. "We were going to see how it was feeling and he'll look at the foot and see where I'm at and he'll be able to determine the risk." | Nov. 5, 2014 2:58 p.m.

Specialist said any position other than a lineman - they probably would have to operate.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Specialist said any position other than a lineman - they probably would have to operate.

Maybe he just doesn't have a steady hand?

http://bagofgrab.typepad.com/.a/6a01156f9c978f970b0133f1c567ea970b-pi

[Carolina_Packer]

Ice Bucket Challenge curse?

http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/club-images/content-stream/2014/08-august/140819-ice-buckets-300-cs.jpg

[Joemailman]

So the Packers could possibly end up with Tretter and Lane Taylor at Guard? So that means Garth Gerhart is the backup at C/G, and I guess Tretter would move to T if Bakh or Bulaga went down. I imagine Jerry Vujnovich would probably be activated off the PS. Or maybe they'd sign Tauscher. What the hell did Sherrod do to get cut right now? Hit on Olivia Munn?

[Harlan Huckleby]

So the Packers could possibly end up with Tretter and Lane Taylor at Guard?

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/281693551.html

Sitton has torn ligament in toe? This is gonna be ugly.

[red]

Fuck you guys

I hate all you assholes

I might star my own unofficial game day thread that only I can post in. Just out of spite

[KYPack]

Fuck you guys

I hate all you assholes

I might star my own unofficial game day thread that only I can post in. Just out of spite

Hold on, Sunshine.

Can you play guard or tackle?

We may have another job for ya.

[KYPack]

So the Packers could possibly end up with Tretter and Lane Taylor at Guard? So that means Garth Gerhart is the backup at C/G, and I guess Tretter would move to T if Bakh or Bulaga went down. I imagine Jerry Vujnovich would probably be activated off the PS. Or maybe they'd sign Tauscher. What the hell did Sherrod do to get cut right now? Hit on Olivia Munn?

I'm with ya, Joe.

We are razor thin in the OLine and we cut one of 'em.

This is nuts.

[Harlan Huckleby]

We are razor thin in the OLine and we cut one of 'em.

This is nuts.

Maybe the Packers think their practice squad guy is better. I thought Sherrod was pretty terrible, but opinions vary.

I don't see any sign of a team bringing him in for tryout. He's rested and ready if needed.

[pbmax]

If the sports science guy was carrying his weight, I am sure Clif Bar makes a supplement that would have prevented this.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Saw Lang and Sitton did not practice today. Lang - we know about the ankle, Sitton - I heard it was his foot. I hope this one of MM's "We're just being smart" with Sitton. We can't lose anymore O-lineman.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/281648301.html

America's most famous bully, Richie Incognito, is available.

I realize there's less than a 1% chance the Packers sign Incognito, as the low-key Ted Thompson is not someone who would entice fans to start www.firetedthompson.com or fly a plane over Lambeau with the banner calling for his head, ala fair-weather NY Jets fans.

Lang and Sitton's injuries better not be long-term cos desperate times often call desperate measures on the iphone. :mrgreen:

[Joemailman]

Lang and Sitton did not practice today. They will test the injuries tomorrow. So it could be Taylor and Tretter. Not to worry though. Campen will coach 'em up. :tup:

[red]

Im seeing another broken collarbone for a-rod this week

And god help us if bulaga or bahk get hurt during the game

[Teamcheez1]

Im seeing another broken collarbone for a-rod this week

And god help us if bulaga or bahk get hurt during the game

I've got a bad feeling about this game.

[Joemailman]

I've got a bad feeling about this game.

I would if the Packers were facing a good defense. Plus, the Bears have their own problems on the OL:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-next-opponent-bears-b99383621z1-281555651.html


No depth: The Bears will begin the practice week with just seven players in the offensive line.

Matt Slauson, the starting left guard, suffered a season-ending pectoral injury against the Patriots. Tackle-guard Eben Britton, who was playing extensively in six-lineman formations, underwent an appendectomy during the bye week and will sit at least a week.

Rather than insert backup Michael Ola at left guard, a position he started in Games 2-4 for an injured Slauson, coach Marc Trestman decided to move right tackle Jordan Mills to the foreign position of left guard and insert Ola at right tackle.

Ola started at right tackle against the Patriots when Mills continued feeling the affects of off-season foot surgery.

"I thought Mills was OK at right tackle," a personnel man said. "I'm kind of surprised they moved him, actually. They liked him there last year a whole lot. That's a weird one. You usually don't move tackles."

[HarveyWallbangers]

Kevin Dorsey has a serious foot injury. His season could be over. Sounds like Sitton and Lang are both very iffy this week. I'm hoping one can play and Tretter can take the other spot. I don't want to see more of Lane Taylor.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I got a bad feeling about this game. Packers save-up stinkers for night games. The two guards are iffy no matter who plays.

[denverYooper]

Grow a pair, fellas. Green Bay will be fine.

[3irty1]

I'm worried about the game after this game. Hard to imagine a loss coming off a bye coming off a loss. Plus its just the OL, not like they were taking advantage of their health by playing well anyways.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm worried about the game after this game. Hard to imagine a loss coming off a bye coming off a loss. Plus its just the OL, not like they were taking advantage of their health by playing well anyways.

The Bears were on a bye too.

Losing both guards is devastating. Every play is a dogfight on line of scrimmage. Tretter is an undersized, rusty player. Taylor looked bad every time he has been on the field, starting in preseason. Don't know how he made team. You don't notice the O-line because they are usually battling, even when they are having a so-so day.

I trust Tretter to pass block. Packers will have to forget about the run. Maybe it will be OK. More likely it's gonna be a tough game to pull out.

[Striker]

The Bears are down Houston along the d-line and are banged up as well. Starting two backup Gs this week likely won't kill us like it would against a fully healthy team.

[Guiness]

Did I miss the joke here? Are you expecting the Packers to drub the Bears to bad that Tucker will be the interim coach after this week?

[Joemailman]

The Bears were on a bye too.

Losing both guards is devastating. Every play is a dogfight on line of scrimmage. Tretter is an undersized, rusty player. Taylor looked bad every time he has been on the field, starting in preseason. Don't know how he made team. You don't notice the O-line because they are usually battling, even when they are having a so-so day.

I trust Tretter to pass block. Packers will have to forget about the run. Maybe it will be OK. More likely it's gonna be a tough game to pull out.

Tretter and Barclay got hurt. Otherwise I doubt he'd be here.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tretter and Barclay got hurt. Otherwise I doubt he'd be here.

Well, there's a guy on the street with NFL experience at both tackle and guard. Good size, low mileage. Darrin Sherwood, I believe his name is.

[Joemailman]

I got a bad feeling about this game. Packers save-up stinkers for night games. The two guards are iffy no matter who plays.

Bears have injury issues at Guard too. For some reason I like Rodgers' chances of being able to handle the situation better than I do Cutler's. Kool-Aid drinker I guess.

[smuggler]

And our secondary is healthy, while theirs is pretty bad outside of the rookie that Jordy abused in their last meeting.

[Jimx29]

A 5:34 minute tribute to one of the very best draft picks the Packers ever made:


http://vimeo.com/111183624

[Bossman641]

1. That was amazing
2. Tramon comes to play against the Bears
3. I still miss Collins

[Tyrion Lannister]

A 5:34 minute tribute to one of the very best draft picks the Packers ever made:



Awesome. Cutler sure loves throwing to Shields

Hopefully Jay-C throws 4 more on Sunday. But none to Hyde. I promised I'll self-ban from the JSO comment sections if Hyde catches more picks this season than Josh Sitton.

[pbmax]

Tretter is an undersized, rusty player.

He is 6' 4", 307.
Sitton is 6' 3", 318
Lang is 6' 4", 318
Taylor is 6' 3", 327

Undersized? Nah.

Rusty, unprepared, not actually a Guard? All much more possible.

[Patler]

Martellus Bennett questionable for Sunday:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Martellus-Bennett-questionable-with-rib-injury.html


The Chicago Bears are in wait-and-see mode with Martellus Bennett.

The Bears' top tight end sustained a rib injury earlier this week in practice and is now listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Packers. Bennett has become more of a go-to target for Jay Cutler in the passing game, and not having him this Sunday would be a huge blow to the Bears' offense.

[BZnDallas]

Martellus Bennett questionable for Sunday:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Martellus-Bennett-questionable-with-rib-injury.html

So if he does play, Dix needs to stick him in the side... Blow him up basically, or cream him when he's coming down the seam.

Do these jokes ever get old? :huh:

Can we get a poll question?

:beat: or :clap:

[Harlan Huckleby]

He is 6' 4", 307.
Sitton is 6' 3", 318
Lang is 6' 4", 318
Taylor is 6' 3", 327

Undersized? Nah.

Rusty, unprepared, not actually a Guard? All much more possible.

I was listening to an analyst in past couple days who just interviewed Tretter, maybe it was Silverstein, maybe Tauscher. Tretter's actual weight is 298, and he is not a powerful guy. He is fine at center, but lacks ideal strength or bulk at guard. This isn't my opinion, it came across the wireless.

Wait a sec, maybe this insight came from McGinn & Dunne podcast. Ya.

In pregame show two weeks ago, Larry McCarren was asked if Tretter could function at other positions. (Now we're into the grey area of my short term memory.) McCarren said Tretter is certainly best suited for center. He also thought Tretter would be better at guard than tackle.

[Patler]

225 lb. bench press results at the combine:

Tretter - 29 reps
Sherrod - 23 reps
Bakhtiari - 28 reps

Tretter weighed in slightly heavier than Bakhtiari at the combine, but obviously both have changed since then. Tretter mostly performed better than Bakhtiari in drills at the combine. The common thread in all evaluations of Tretter were that he had very good football smarts, recognized things quickly, etc.

Physically, he might be at a disadvantage, but they lived with Bakhtiari last year and I think Tretter is a similar player.

[KYPack]

I was listening to an analyst in past couple days who just interviewed Tretter, maybe it was Silverstein, maybe Tauscher. Tretter's actual weight is 298, and he is not a powerful guy. He is fine at center, but lacks ideal strength or bulk at guard. This isn't my opinion, it came across the wireless.

Wait a sec, maybe this insight came from McGinn & Dunne podcast. Ya.

In pregame show two weeks ago, Larry McCarren was asked if Tretter could function at other positions. (Now we're into the grey area of my short term memory.) McCarren said Tretter is certainly best suited for center. He also thought Tretter would be better at guard than tackle.

We are thin, Harlan.

Think the kid can play both T spots at the same time?

Or is it both guard spots?

[Guiness]

We are thin, Harlan.

Think the kid can play both T spots at the same time?

Or is it both guard spots?

I don't care, 298lbs, Tretter is NOT the one who is thin!

If one of the two guards can't go, it will be interesting to see how the OL get shuffled. Does Taylor get the start, or do they go with Tretter? Taylor is a much more stout, butRiv that didn't seem to help him much last week.

I bet Lang and Sitton are fighting like hell to get on the field. OL tend to HATE missing time, I remember Rivera was always proud to be out on the field defending Favre no matter what kind of shape he was in. I got a text last night from a friend who's son is in grade 10, kid is 6'4" and 230 or so, size 14 shoes, starting LT and team captain on the varsity team:bow:.
They're undefeated and the second round of playoffs are this week-end. We got snow this week, field was a mess and he hurt his knee in PRACTICE. He's out, maybe for the season. I bet the kid is beside himself.

[pbmax]

Tretter may not be able to perform at Guard. While I don't think his body type is the problem (even at 298), playing Guard is light years different than playing tackle, which is his other position. You have a very short space to work in and you must be quick but not overcommit. Because while that DT isn't as fast as the DE, you get unsquare to him, you are going to get blown past or knocked on your keister. Unless you are Linsley or Wells strong, its over.

Colledge, Sherrod and even Lang are tackle types who can get in a bad way at Guard at times by taking a false first step/move.

As bad as Taylor is it can get worse. But Taylor is bad enough it might be worth finding out what Tretter can do there.

[Harlan Huckleby]

We are thin, Harlan.

Think the kid can play both T spots at the same time?

Or is it both guard spots?

For damage control purposes, Tretter is a good option at any position. From what I've read, he's extremely athletic, very good at blocking linebackers. That tells me he will at least compete and stick with his man for a few seconds.

I'm saying if the Packers have to go with Tretter and "Open Lane" Taylor at guard, it could be a weakness inside.

[Harlan Huckleby]

225 lb. bench press results at the combine:

Tretter - 29 reps
Sherrod - 23 reps
Bakhtiari - 28 reps

You youngsters have no perspective, no sense of history. Reggie White was famous for his poor performance on the bench press. He was an epic bull rusher, it's about strength through the torso and hips, innate sense of leverage. T-t-t-t-t-timing - getting opponent off-balance. Did I mention more than 50 times that I was a wrestler? Hey, Reggie was a wrestler too, come to think on it - at least for one magical night.

BTW, I heard somebody on TV say that Bahktiari is the smallest LT in the NFL. He's kind of a freak.

McCarren thought Tretter could be an excellent guard if he put on some bulk.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I bet Lang and Sitton are fighting like hell to get on the field.

They'll both play. Fat Mike is just giving us something to talk about.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Can Fat Mike play G or T?

[pbmax]

You youngsters have no perspective, no sense of history. Reggie White was famous for his poor performance on the bench press. He was an epic bull rusher, it's about strength through the torso and hips, innate sense of leverage. T-t-t-t-t-timing - getting opponent off-balance. Did I mention more than 50 times that I was a wrestler? Hey, Reggie was a wrestler too, come to think on it - at least for one magical night.

BTW, I heard somebody on TV say that Bahktiari is the smallest LT in the NFL. He's kind of a freak.

McCarren thought Tretter could be an excellent guard if he put on some bulk.

Reggie White held the Eagles team record for the bench press for several years.

[Maxie the Taxi]

One of you guys is making things up. My guess is Harlan.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Actually he made have good endurance in bench press. What I am remembering is that he could not lift much weight.

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_much_could_Reggie_White_bench_press
"Some players who knew him said in the mid 400's His natural strength and heart made up for what he lacked in the weight room."

I'm remembering many stories about Reggie White was not strong in the weight room.

[Maxie the Taxi]

You're both right!

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is not over. It's not over till I say it's over.

I'm going with McCarren and McGinn over the bench press endurance test. No test can measure what is in a man's butt.

[KYPack]

Actually he made have good endurance in bench press. What I am remembering is that he could not lift much weight.

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_much_could_Reggie_White_bench_press
"Some players who knew him said in the mid 400's His natural strength and heart made up for what he lacked in the weight room."

I'm remembering many stories about Reggie White was not strong in the weight room.

I think you heard this, Reggie did not work out.

He didn't like it and didn't do it.

Being Reggie, the coaches would let him skip all lifting.

Reggie would have a standing bet that he could out rep anybody on the team and a few times a year, he's go down there and do just that. Reggie was all natural, fast quick and strong. He'd work out, but no weights. (Herschel Walker was the same way, sprints exercises, but no lifting)

[Patler]

Reggie White hated lifting weights, and refused to do it on any kind of regular basis. There was a story of him getting the coaches in GB to let him skip regular weight lifting if he could do some specific weight or reps or something. He went in the weight room, did it, and reportedly never was seen in the weight room again.

[Patler]

I see we have basically the same recollections, KYP.

[Patler]

I heard that Mike Wahle was a guy who didn't like traditional weight lifting either. In the off season he was said to do things liked flipping huge implement tires, lifting and carrying stones, etc. Should have competed in the Highland games.

[smuggler]

Dynamic strength bests isometric strength in football.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think you heard this, Reggie did not work out.
I remember that White was not strong in the weight room, especially compared to his on field feats. That seems to be correct, or at least there are some comments to that effect.
But I also specifically remember that he did modestly in testing. That is a wrong fact that somehow got implanted in my brain, and has been nurtured lo these many years.

Tretter is both rusty and undersized at guard, and if pbmax doesn't step forward with an apology, I will demand satisfaction.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-could-promote-ol-joshwalker-from-practice-squad-b99386472z1-282004261.html

Sounds like the Packers may be activating a big boy from the practice squad. Josh Walker.
I think they should bring him up even if the starters are active, they could easily reaggravate those injuries.

[Tyrion Lannister]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-could-promote-ol-joshwalker-from-practice-squad-b99386472z1-282004261.html

Sounds like the Packers may be activating a big boy from the practice squad. Josh Walker.
I think they should bring him up even if the starters are active, they could easily reaggravate those injuries.

Jamon Meredith has been re-signed.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/282035091.html

Anybody remembers him? He was a poor man's Newhouse, wasn't he?

[Maxie the Taxi]

At least Meredith has been around the block a few times, been in the NFL six years.

[Patler]

Jamon Meredith has been re-signed.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/282035091.html

Anybody remembers him? He was a poor man's Newhouse, wasn't he?

We never saw enough of him to know what he was. Never was on GB's roster. He spent a few weeks on PS as a rookie, then was signed away.

I thought about him earlier this week, but saw that he was still with the Colts, They apparently cut him on Tuesday. He has built a career being signed as an emergency backup, then getting released when others get healthy. He has been with 6 other teams, but has never been on the street for more than a couple days before getting signed by someone. Has started a fair amount, mostly for Tampa Bay.

Some articles said he had a reputation as a difficult personality for some coaches to deal with. Here is a JS article from when he was drafted that deals with that:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/44205287.html

[Joemailman]

Jamon Meredith has been re-signed.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/282035091.html

Anybody remembers him? He was a poor man's Newhouse, wasn't he?

5th round pick in 2009. Didn't make the team. He was one of the highest picks by TT to be cut as a rookie. I think there was talk his work ethic left something to be desired.

[pbmax]

Mike Golic has repeatedly told the story many times that some rookie would beat Reggie's lifting record (could have been a max bench or reps) and they would all run to Reggie, tell him and Reggie would go into the weight room.

He would then reset the record and leave.

Still works with the story that he did not like to lift weights.

[Harlan Huckleby]

At least Meredith has been around the block a few times, been in the NFL six years.


He sounds like a better bet than practice squad guy, but I assume he can't be active for tomorrow. Odd. I would be tempted to promote the practice squad guy, if only temporarily.

[Patler]

5th round pick in 2009. Didn't make the team. He was one of the highest picks by TT to be cut as a rookie. I think there was talk his work ethic left something to be desired.

I will admit to having been somewhat intrigued by what I read about him when GB drafted him, and have tried to keep track of him since. He's a smart kid, had a very high g.p.a. in college. As I recall, he graduated in 4 years, but stayed and played a 5th year. I don't think his work ethic is the problem, although that has been thrown out there in some articles. Others say he works very hard, but he has a lot of interests other than football, is opinionated, and stands up for what he believes. I read one description that said he will question coaches, because he wants to know "why". Some coaches can't deal with that very well, especially if a player is questioning some of the nonsensical things that go on in a locker room..

[KYPack]

Mike Golic has repeatedly told the story many times that some rookie would beat Reggie's lifting record (could have been a max bench or reps) and they would all run to Reggie, tell him and Reggie would go into the weight room.

He would then reset the record and leave.

Still works with the story that he did not like to lift weights.

Yeah, that's the deal.

The other DLineman would make a rib out of the whole thing.

Get some kid to set a weight room record.

Then Reggie would make an appearance.

He do his Muhammad Ali, Rodney Dangerfield impressions and blow the kid's mark away.

Everybody gets a laugh and the rook is now one of the boys.

The whole team is happy and nobody is pissed.

It's an ancient idea now, but I came up around a lot of players that were dead set against lifting. It used to be a school of thought that weights made you stiff and injury prone.

[George Cumby]

I will admit to having been somewhat intrigued by what I read about him when GB drafted him, and have tried to keep track of him since. He's a smart kid, had a very high g.p.a. in college. As I recall, he graduated in 4 years, but stayed and played a 5th year. I don't think his work ethic is the problem, although that has been thrown out there in some articles. Others say he works very hard, but he has a lot of interests other than football, is opinionated, and stands up for what he believes. I read one description that said he will question coaches, because he wants to know "why". Some coaches can't deal with that very well, especially if a player is questioning some of the nonsensical things that go on in a locker room..

That's right, his rep out of school was thought to be a "locker room lawyer".

[George Cumby]

I heard that Mike Wahle was a guy who didn't like traditional weight lifting either. In the off season he was said to do things liked flipping huge implement tires, lifting and carrying stones, etc. Should have competed in the Highland games.

Tire flips, loading and lugging ungainly objects make for a real world strength that bench pressing and a lot of other barbell movements can't touch.

[pbmax]

Tire flips, loading and lugging ungainly objects make for a real world strength that bench pressing and a lot of other barbell movements can't touch.

Nautilus?! GONE!

Free Weights?! GONE!

Tractor tires, anchors and bags of concrete! REPPED!

[Patler]

With Burnett being downgraded after practice on Saturday, and with the question marks surrounding Sitton and Lang being increased by the signing of Meredith, I am starting to get a bad feeling about this game.

If all three are out, and the Packers still win what is a desperation game for the Bears, I think the Trestman era might be short-lived. I know there are a lot of factors that are out of his control, but he succeeded a coach who was 10-6 the previous year (29-19 the last 3 years) and and went 8-8 and now sits at 3-5. If that goes to 3-6, he might need a miracle finish to the season to save his job.

[Cleft Crusty]

Tire flips, loading and lugging ungainly objects make for a real world strength that bench pressing and a lot of other barbell movements can't touch.

moving bags of concrete around is what put Clefty in the hospital

[denverYooper]

Awesome. Cutler sure loves throwing to Shields

Hopefully Jay-C throws 4 more on Sunday. But none to Hyde. I promised I'll self-ban from the JSO comment sections if Hyde catches more picks this season than Josh Sitton.

Better start working up your Ban-Fu.

[Harlan Huckleby]

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[Bossman641]

Anybody else remember when McGinn was pumping up the Bears as the new kids on the block who were willing to take chances and sign FA's? Ugh.....about that

[smuggler]

McGinn relies on scouts and has next to no football savvy himself. Everyone who knows football well could have told you that the Lions were the team to look out for. Most people on this forum said as much in training camp.

[Zool]

It's an ancient idea now, but I came up around a lot of players that were dead set against lifting. It used to be a school of thought that weights made you stiff and injury prone.

Mike Neal anyone?