Official Packers go Back to School Game Day Thread - Packers at Vikings Nov 23rd

[smuggler]

Starks was credited with a fumble on his first carry. My guess is he won't see another.

[pbmax]

Your secret weapon, Dom Dunderdummy, is still blundering his way to keeping this a close game - you'll likely be in it to the end. It's a 50/50 game at this point, when in fact it shouldn't be that close at all.

The Packers, game in and game out, are always about Dunderdummy, his gameplan for that game, and his playcalling. He's an idiot, and that is enough to give you guys a punchers chance.

Yes. The offense has not struggled at all today.

[pbmax]

Starks was credited with a fumble on his first carry. My guess is he won't see another.

Would be a mistake, esp. since it probably wasn't a fumble.

[wist43]

The Vikings play damn good defense - but their offense is nothing short of pathetic.

The score of this game should 27-6... but dunderdummy can't help himself.

It's painful to watch.

[Guiness]

It seems that Tretter is working strictly at tackle. He hasn't looked all that hot on his return from injury, maybe they want to focus his practice reps. They really got nobody else at all for tackle backup.

Ya, they kinda got rid of the guy they were counting on. Still surprised by that, the backup situation at tackle is dire. Lang and Tretter are the listed 2nd stringers, it really seems to me that they are playing a dangerous game hoping for no injuries.

[Rastak]

Yes. The offense has not struggled at all today.


Not to be a homer, but Zimmer has got this defense playing 500x better than last year. I think might have a little to do with it. That last game against you guys was a huge wake up call for several players.

[smuggler]

Would be a mistake, esp. since it probably wasn't a fumble.

No argument there. The coaches might not know that, or may not care.

[pbmax]

Still want to know how Lacy run, Nelson holding yielded a first and four down.

[wist43]

Yes. The offense has not struggled at all today.

The Vikings have a very good defense... I would expect our offense to have a rough time of it.

But offensively, they shouldn't cross mid-field but a few times per game... rookie QB who floats balls into traffic, no running game. Should be easy to shut them down, but of course dunderdummy is our DC; hence, it is tough going in a game that should be a pretty easy win.

[pbmax]

Fire Slocum.

[Rastak]

Why do you guys keep giving them good field position on kickoffs?

[red]

I hate short kickoffs

[pbmax]

Neal just lost contain again.

[pbmax]

The Vikings have a very good defense... I would expect our offense to have a rough time of it.

But offensively, they shouldn't cross mid-field but a few times per game... rookie QB who floats balls into traffic, no running game. Should be easy to shut them down, but of course dunderdummy is our DC; hence, it is tough going in a game that should be a pretty easy win.

14th in points, 12th in yardage. Eminently solvable.

[Guiness]

Jennings with a catch over the middle. Bet he's elated to be running those routes.

[pbmax]

Why do you guys keep giving them good field position on kickoffs?

Fear of what Patterson has done to them before.

[ThunderDan]

The Vikings have a very good defense... I would expect our offense to have a rough time of it.

But offensively, they shouldn't cross mid-field but a few times per game... rookie QB who floats balls into traffic, no running game. Should be easy to shut them down, but of course dunderdummy is our DC; hence, it is tough going in a game that should be a pretty easy win.

Yet we should have 27. You are silly.

[red]

Bout time

[pbmax]

Peppers was being face masked.

[ThunderDan]

Jones in on that play.

[smuggler]

Good push by Daniels. Bridgewater had a lot of room to his left, but didn't sense it in time.

[Rastak]

Fear of what Patterson has done to them before.

Hasn't done shit this year.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He played Guard last week. But all on Left side.

ya, but I think he stunk so sufficiently that Packers are focusing him on tackle, ala Sherrod. That's just my speculation.

I suppose other option is to move Lang to guard, but that is really desperation. I hope Tretter is playable at tackle.

[ThunderDan]

ya, but I think he stunk so sufficiently that Packers are focusing him on tackle, ala Sherrod. That's just my speculation.

I suppose other option is to move Lang to guard, but that is really desperation. I hope Tretter is playable at tackle.

Lang does play guard.

[smuggler]

Still want to know how Lacy run, Nelson holding yielded a first and four down.

Jordy wasn't flagged until 16 yards downfield. So, Lacy 16 yard run and a 10 yard penalty. Holding on a running play is a spot foul if it happens beyond the LoS

[Striker]

Just keep pounding it til the Vikings show better resistance.

[ThunderDan]

Jordy not touched down there. We should have gotten 10 more yards there.

[pittstang5]

Cmon Bach.

[pbmax]

Jordy wasn't flagged until 16 yards downfield. So, Lacy 16 yard run and a 10 yard penalty. Holding on a running play is a spot foul.

Bach getting killed by Griffen.

Thanks for the explanation. Didn't expect holding to be spot of foul.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lang does play guard.typo, meant tackle, which I'm guessing you could figure out

[pittstang5]

Fuckin Flags!

[ThunderDan]

Eddie is good in the screen game.

[pittstang5]

Beating ourselves up with penalties

[pbmax]

Love the run calls. Now if they can stop committing penalties.

[ThunderDan]

Good drive derailed by penalties. We should be down at the 20 or so.

[pittstang5]

Jesus Christ!

[pbmax]

Not a good throw. Bulaga is getting shoved around.

[Harlan Huckleby]

bad throw by arod

[Bossman641]

Fuck come on offense....flags and poor OL play

[Harlan Huckleby]

guess this is why they play the games

[pittstang5]

Good Lord! Halftime pep talk really working.

[Teamcheez1]

AR and the offer suck today.

[pittstang5]

And special teams right in tow with today's fuck ups

[Bossman641]

Where's Bush when you need him.

[Harlan Huckleby]

how dumb

[ThunderDan]

Gordon is an idiot. Bring back Bush.

[pbmax]

And the absence of Bush costs them 15 yards.

[smuggler]

Refs taking over the game.

[pittstang5]

SMH

[pbmax]

Good Lord! Halftime pep talk really working.

Worked for run game. Not for Bach or Adams though :)

[Bossman641]

AR and the offer suck today.

No it's all the defense's fault :whaa::roll:

[smuggler]

Going to have to start blitzing Bridgewater to rattle him a little. Defense needs to do something, because the offense stayed home in Green Bay this week.

[Striker]

Packers just want to give them a lead so they can pad Rodgers' 4th Quarter Comeback stats.

[pittstang5]

Perry and Bush absence really being felt today.

We need a turnover to change the momentum.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Refs taking over the game.

With the exception of some missed PI early, have the calls been bad?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Perry and Bush absence really being felt today.

Yep.

[ThunderDan]

Going to have to start blitzing Bridgewater to rattle him a little. Defense needs to do something, because the offense stayed home in Green Bay this week.

The O is doing ok. The penalties are killing them. We should have gotten at least 3 points from that drive.

[Harlan Huckleby]

hawk falls on face

[pittstang5]

nice play, but we need a stop on 3rd down.

[ThunderDan]

Clay will a great play.

[pittstang5]

Horrible

[ThunderDan]

Good run blitz by Burnett.

[pbmax]

And a gift drop. Sam's technique terrible on that coverage.

[Striker]

Phew. Lucky break there.

[Rastak]

Catch the fucking ball.

[pittstang5]

That could have been worse, but god damn, we gotta get something going

[ThunderDan]

D held Minn to 14 yards and a field goal.

[smuggler]

I haven't been this furious since the Fail Mary game.

[pittstang5]

D held Minn to 14 yards and a field goal.

Field position has been killing the Pack

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is an awful game. Packers are not doing anything on either side of ball. I want a refund.

[pbmax]

On that wide run toss for the first down, Peppers got trapped by TE down block and Matthews didn't get wide, he tried to fill an inside gap. That kind of play will not come naturally to him while inside. Had no contain at all and only sideline stopped him.

[Guiness]

Packers get away with one there. Just damn lucky that wasn't a long completion.

[pbmax]

This is an awful game. Packers are not doing anything on either side of ball. I want a refund.

Vikes started at midfield with great FG kicker. That was a D victory there. 20 yards effective yardage allowed.

[Rastak]

This is an awful game. Packers are not doing anything on either side of ball. I want a refund.


They don't give refunds on predictions....

[smuggler]

Offense needs to get its head out of its ass and play THEIR game. The Vikings suck, why are we playing to the Viking game?

[Rastak]

Vikes started at midfield with heat FG kicker. That was a D victory there. 20 yards effective yardage allowed.

In a sense, wide receiver flat out dropped a moderately difficult catch which may have been 7 in the end.

[smuggler]

STOP IT

[pittstang5]

Ticky Tacky, but I'll take it

[wist43]

14th in points, 12th in yardage. Eminently solvable.

We had 14 at halftime, and it was a struggle to get there against a good defense - why is 27 for the game "silly"??

What's silly is that dunderdummy is still our DC after all these years of putrid coaching.

The Vikings have a terrible, terrible offense - yet they have receivers running wide open all over the field, and RB's are running untouched for 8 yds on 3rd and 2, on and on...

This game is what we can see on any given Sunday with Dunderdummy as our DC. He can't be trusted - ever.

[red]

Obligatory mention of rodgers saying "relax"

Everyone drink

[pbmax]

In a sense, wide receiver flat out dropped a moderately difficult catch which may have been 7 in the end.

Sure, but drops happen every drive. Shields screwed himself into the turf with bad footwork. There are physical failures every play.

[smuggler]

Siragusa is an idiot.

[ThunderDan]

Seriously, another flag.

Iffy there.

[pittstang5]

FUCK! That was fuckin Clsoe

[Harlan Huckleby]

Arod is officially having a bad day throwing

[pittstang5]

WE can't sustain a drive

[ThunderDan]

That's three first downs in this drive.

[pittstang5]

Good Lord ARod

[pittstang5]

we're fucked

[smuggler]

Vikings playing 8 in the box on called runs, 7 in coverage on called passes. We are not disguising our playcalls at all.

[Harlan Huckleby]

what the hell was that play call?

[Rastak]

Nice stop.

[smuggler]

Fuckign dumb

[Striker]

Sigh. Offense is just off today.

[smuggler]

They need to call runs when the Vikings put that many people in coverage. When they stack the line, switch to a pass. It's not fucking rocket science...

[pbmax]

Not a fan of that call on 3rd and 11. Like plying for FG.

[wist43]

Nice stop.

Would love to trade you defenses, lol...

I'll pay big to give you dunderdummy??

[Harlan Huckleby]

Somehow a Cialis commercial makes a depressing game worse

[pbmax]

They need to call runs when the Vikings put that many people in coverage. When they stack the line, switch to a pass. It's not fucking rocket science...

They did first drive of half. But Vikes changed something that drive. Rodgers didn't get a good read. They adjusted to Packer adjustment.

[pittstang5]

and we still give them decent field position

[pbmax]

Hawk seems to small to be inside anymore.

Mattthews didn't finish that gap guess.

[smuggler]

We're seriously going to lose this game? To the woeful, pathetic Vikings?

[pbmax]

Pennel in game.

[pittstang5]

surprised there was no flag

[pbmax]

Worked that time.

[pittstang5]

I'm seeing more of Brad Jones than I want

[pbmax]

Jones with good spying. Nice spot by Harlan and Dan.\

Need a score.

[ThunderDan]

D allows one first down and forces a punt.

[Striker]

D allows one first down and forces a punt.

Worst D ever.

[smuggler]

Against a halfway decent team, we'd already be done. Not looking forward to New England next week.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm seeing more of Brad Jones than I want

just break it off with him.

[pittstang5]

and shitty field position again

[pbmax]

Against a halfway decent team, we'd already be done. Not looking forward to New England next week.

Different Offense at home.

[pittstang5]

just break it off with him.

I have, but he keeps turning up like a bad penny

[ThunderDan]

and shitty field position again

Better on the 12 and no points than the 20 after 7.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The Vike defense is giving up no lanes.

[pbmax]

Not a good job of reading in run game. Had a cutback hard right. Glad he didm;t go wide though

[pittstang5]

A break....

[Rastak]

Man, Blake Bortles 36 yards passing late in the 3rd quarter.....

[Harlan Huckleby]

kinda weak holding call

[pbmax]

He did it again. WIDE OPEN on right and he headed further left.

[King Friday]

Calm down people...this is a classic trap game. The Chiefs just had one on Thursday. The key is to just get the win and stay healthy. This isn't college...a win is a win.

[pbmax]

Packers just don't do well on drives with 8 throws of 7 yards or less.

[Guiness]

Ok, it's official that the O is predictable today. GF is complaining (and predicting) runs on 1st and 10.

[Harlan Huckleby]

OK, the rout is on!

[ThunderDan]

Another good slant.

[pbmax]

Jordy with nice slant.

And anther PI not called.

[pbmax]

Jordy with nice slant.

And anther PI not called.

Maybe not.

[pittstang5]

nope, not going to get it

[pbmax]

Bach with probable hold and great run by Rodgers.

[ThunderDan]

ARod getting out of the pocket and running again.

[Rastak]

Bach with probable hold and great run by Rodgers.

Yea, I saw that.

[pbmax]

There was a nice read and run.

[ThunderDan]

Nice run up the middle by Lacy.

[pbmax]

LOVED THAT RUN. No chance to swarm to stop hole.

[King Friday]

This is where Lacy has to earn his money...late in a cold weather game. This is his moment.

[pbmax]

Beautiful!!! Nice call after all that passing at midfield

[Harlan Huckleby]

Another classic Rodgers touchdown pass

[Striker]

Boom!

[pbmax]

M3 earned his check with the adjustments this drive and half.

[ThunderDan]

Shovel pass for the TD for Lacy. 24-13.

[pittstang5]

If It's not, it's at the 1 inch line.

[Rastak]

Nice play.

He got in.

[ThunderDan]

Game feels a little more in control up by 11. The last weeks being up by 30+ made this feel closer.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Just 8 more minutes and the axe is ours

[pbmax]

87 yard drive. Very nice.

[pbmax]

Lattimore with nice one on one tackle.

[Bossman641]

How about a TO?

[pittstang5]

Cmon D!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Does Hawk have a hammy today? jesus, he is slow

[pbmax]

Going to need to bat a short throw.

[ThunderDan]

Come on Hawk. Your help was coming from the inside.

[pittstang5]

Cmon D. STOP THEM!!!

[pbmax]

Come on Hawk. Your help was coming from the inside.

Exactly.

[pbmax]

Named after Doctor J? Like him even more now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Come on Hawk. Your help was coming from the inside.

I really wonder if he is playing injured. Several times I've noticed slow pursuit

[pbmax]

Time for Game Break: Brown up on Falcons, Bears taking to to Bucs, Eagles over Titans, Cincy over Houston, Colts over Jags, NE big over Leos

[pbmax]

HHCD with nice break up

[Rastak]

Named after Doctor J? Like him even more now.

My favorite NBA player of all time - with Wilt the Stilt coming in a close second.

[pbmax]

Got a hand on Bridgewater that time and drew a flag. Kahlil having tough game.

[Rastak]

What a shitty call.

[pbmax]

My favorite NBA player of all time - with Wilt the Stilt coming in a close second.

Agree.

[pbmax]

Dammit. Hyde needs to carry that deeper, no>?

[King Friday]

TEs eating us for lunch today...NE is going to be salivating.

[Bossman641]

Time for Game Break: Brown up on Falcons, Bears taking to to Bucs, Eagles over Titans, Cincy over Houston, Colts over Jags, NE big over Leos

Thanks to 2 Buc turnovers that gave the Bears a very short field. The Bears still suck.

[pbmax]

TEs eating us for lunch today...NE is going to be salivating.

Pass rush will be different. Don't need to worry about spy or running QB at all.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Another curious challenge by rotund mike

[Rastak]

He challenged that?

[Teamcheez1]

MM and challenges equal s dumb.

[pbmax]

Neal should NOT have closed there :lol:

[ThunderDan]

Horrible D. Late in the fourth quarter a minn finally gets into the red zone. Fire dunderdummy!

[Rastak]

Teddy in the hurry up.....the one thing he's been doing well.

[pbmax]

Blown coverage.

[Harlan Huckleby]

well executed play fooled packers

[King Friday]

The challenge flag really needs to be taken away from Stubby. The guy does not have a clue. Go hire someone as a replay challenge consultant and give him the flag.

[wist43]

Can we fire dunderdummy now??

Please, I'm beggin ya, lol...

[Bossman641]

Same play?

[Teamcheez1]

Against a mediocre offense, the defense has been shit today.

[pbmax]

Same blown coverage.

[Harlan Huckleby]

After 15 yards, Vikings surely will onsides kick. That is big penalty

[smuggler]

Prevent defense once again fails to prevent anything.

[Bossman641]

After 15 yards, Vikings surely will onsides kick. That is big penalty

I'd do a popup kick

[pbmax]

Why pooch it deep?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't understand that kick into endzone. Why not onside or pooch? risk is minimal

[Rastak]

I'd do a popup kick


Exactly what I was thinking.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd do a popup kick

ya, anything but kick in endzone

[pbmax]

Need one timeout to bleed TOs. One more to ice game.

[ThunderDan]

Prevent defense once again fails to prevent anything.

Went into a shell and let hey get into the red zone.

[wist43]

A leopard doesn't change his spots...

Dunderdummy is still dunderdummy, and MM will throw the challenge flag for no reason at all.

Other things that will never change: 1st down incomplete?? MM will run it into the line on 2nd down to ensure we have a 3rd and 8.

Watch this team long enough, and you know everything that's coming... very predictable.

[pittstang5]

Just stepped out. You gotta be kidding me!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Packers are going to win this one by 3 points

QFT

[ThunderDan]

Big rushing first down.

[pbmax]

There ya go. Nice call. Now no Vike TOs and less than 2 minutes before they get ball back.

[Rastak]

Big play by Pack.

[Teamcheez1]

Lacy is my MVP today.

[Striker]

Gotta be able to get these grind 'em out firsts in order to win late in the season.

[pittstang5]

There ya go. Nice call. Now no Vike TOs and less than 2 minutes before they get ball back.

TV showed Vikes still had a time out

[ThunderDan]

A leopard doesn't change his spots...

Dunderdummy is still dunderdummy, and MM will throw the challenge flag for no reason at all.

Other things that will never change: 1st down incomplete?? MM will run it into the line on 2nd down to ensure we have a 3rd and 8.

Watch this team long enough, and you know everything that's coming... very predictable.

Just after we run 3 running plays in a row for a first down and force Minn to use all of their time outs.

[Rastak]

QFT

Decimal error in your pregame prediction. Could happen to anyone.

[wist43]

Not calling a TO on the + side of the 2:00 warning was a mistake by the Vikings...

They should have called a TO there and forced us to run a play.

[King Friday]

Yep...Vikes should still have 1 timeout.

[pbmax]

TV showed Vikes still had a time out

Yes, but assuming Packers don't throw, penalty or turnover, best they can do is lose 60 seconds and get ball back with no TOs left.

[ThunderDan]

Great power run against 9 in the box.

[pittstang5]

Yes, but assuming Packers don't throw, penalty or turnover, best they can do is lose 60 seconds and get ball back with no TOs left.
gotcha

[pittstang5]

Stressful game

[pbmax]

And its over. His three best run reads were in this last drive.

[Rastak]

Game set match - good game guys.

[wist43]

Ugly, ugly F-ing game

[ThunderDan]

Game over. Finish it off with the power run.

[Joemailman]

Second latest dagger of the year.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Domination! Eat shit, Vikings!

[pbmax]

Game set match - good game guys.

You too. Zimm is a keeper. Unfortunately. :lol:

[ThunderDan]

First place in the North.

[wist43]

It was stressful b/c of dunderdummy...

I fully expected their defense to give us a hard time, but their offense is nothing short of terrible, no way should they have scored 21 pts, and generated 15 play drives....

Dunderdummy is just a flaming idiot.

[King Friday]

Ugly, ugly F-ing game

The W is fine with me. Or would you prefer we had the same result as the Chiefs?

[pittstang5]

Win is a win. Lions losing. good Day

[Joemailman]

Ugly, ugly F-ing game

Lighten up Wist. A division road win is always a good win.

[ThunderDan]

It was stressful b/c of dunderdummy...

I fully expected their defense to give us a hard time, but their offense is nothing short of terrible, no way should they have scored 21 pts, and generated 15 play drives....

Dunderdummy is just a flaming idiot.

Yep holding a team to one trip in your red zone is crap.

[Striker]

Ugly wins are still wins.

Now wake up and take it to the Pats.

[pbmax]

Need Perry back as odd as that sounds.

[pbmax]

Falcons storming back

[Joemailman]

First place in the North.

And #2 playoff seed.

[Joemailman]

Need Perry back as odd as that sounds.

Neal had a brutal final drive.

[Rastak]

Falcons storming back


Looks like the Browns might pull it out.....I gotta stock up on popcorn for the Manziel-Hoyer offseason.

[pittstang5]

Falcons storming back

Browns ready to kick gaming winning FG

[pittstang5]

Browns win.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Neal had a brutal final drive.

To cap a brutal game.

[Joemailman]

To cap a brutal game.

Nothing like finishing strong.

[wist43]

Same thing as the Philly game on defense....

If the opponent had a halfway proficient QB - they would have put up big, big numbers and dunderdummy and his dunderdummy defense.

Sanchez sucked against us and missed wide open receivers repeatedly - same thing with Bridgewater. Put that same defense up against Manning or Brady?? It would be ugly, ugly stuff, and you guys would be flipping out.

But since the substandard QB's present a mirage - you guys believe all is well. All is not well - dunderdummy is still dunderdummy, and always will be.

[pittstang5]

In the past, when the Packers needed to run, they couldn't. So refreshing to see Lacy and the O-line ending the game the way they did - Vikings knowing full well that the Pack was going to run.

[Guiness]

Looks like the Browns might pull it out.....I gotta stock up on popcorn for the Manziel-Hoyer offseason.

Lemme take a shot at it. Browns want Manziel to succeed, because he's more marketable. They let Hoyer go, he signs for 7-8M/year and they and get a 3 (or even 4th) round compensatory pick for him.

Manziel is anointed starter, is the second coming of Ryan Leaf, and get replaced by some poor sap of a 5th round draft pick the Brown get next year, who is in turn replaced by someone the Browns pry off the couch around week 10...let's go with Christian Ponder.

Have I got that about right?

[Bossman641]

They can't all be blowouts. Win is a win

[pbmax]

Same thing as the Philly game on defense....

If the opponent had a halfway proficient QB - they would have put up big, big numbers and dunderdummy and his dunderdummy defense.

Sanchez sucked against us and missed wide open receivers repeatedly - same thing with Bridgewater. Put that same defense up against Manning or Brady?? It would be ugly, ugly stuff, and you guys would be flipping out.

But since the substandard QB's present a mirage - you guys believe all is well. All is not well - dunderdummy is still dunderdummy, and always will be.

What is Brady's completion rate when he is on his back foot because he can't follow through?

Because as bad as both Sanchez and Bridgerwater were, they had to move around to find space to throw and that hurt their accuracy. Its no accident that Bridgewater was throwing pop ups early in the game under pressure. Patriots O is not as good as its D. They should be able to pressure Brady, though he's good enough it will not matter as much.

[pbmax]

Lemme take a shot at it. Browns want Manziel to succeed, because he's more marketable. They let Hoyer go, he signs for 7-8M/year and they and get a 3 (or even 4th) round compensatory pick for him.

Manziel is anointed starter, is the second coming of Ryan Leaf, and get replaced by some poor sap of a 5th round draft pick the Brown get next year, who is in turn replaced by someone the Browns pry off the couch around week 10...let's go with Christian Ponder.

Have I got that about right?

The Factory of Sadness doesn't need pointers Guin.

[Rastak]

Lemme take a shot at it. Browns want Manziel to succeed, because he's more marketable. They let Hoyer go, he signs for 7-8M/year and they and get a 3 (or even 4th) round compensatory pick for him.

Manziel is anointed starter, is the second coming of Ryan Leaf, and get replaced by some poor sap of a 5th round draft pick the Brown get next year, who is in turn replaced by someone the Browns pry off the couch around week 10...let's go with Christian Ponder.

Have I got that about right?

I'm hearing more like 12M for Hoyer in the open market.

[wist43]

What is Brady's completion rate when he is on his back foot because he can't follow through?

Because as bad as both Sanchez and Bridgerwater were, they had to move around to find space to throw and that hurt their accuracy. Its no accident that Bridgewater was throwing pop ups early in the game under pressure. Patriots O is not as good as its D. They should be able to pressure Brady, though he's good enough it will not matter as much.

You surely haven't watched much Minnesota football then have you?? B/C throwing off his back foot and floating ducks out there is what Bridgewater does.

Dunderdummy has a track record against good QB's, and it is terrible; to wit, he has even admitted that he's afraid to challenge them, and would prefer to bleed to death slowly as opposed to getting killed with big strikes.

But that approach is a bunch of BS too, b/c he not only bleeds to death, he also allows the big plays - not to mention routinely abandons the middle of the field and gives up tons of rushing yardage.

Capers coaches scared against good QB's - it's who he is. I fully expect we're going to give up a ton of yds, and ton of points. The only question is whether we can keep pace on offense - but since the Patriots actually play a little defense, and don't have dunderdummy on their staff, I expect they'll get enough stops against us to put us in perpetual catch up mode the whole game.

41-31 Pats.

[woodbuck27]

We had 14 at halftime, and it was a struggle to get there against a good defense - why is 27 for the game "silly"??

What's silly is that dunderdummy is still our DC after all these years of putrid coaching.

The Vikings have a terrible, terrible offense - yet they have receivers running wide open all over the field, and RB's are running untouched for 8 yds on 3rd and 2, on and on...

This game is what we can see on any given Sunday with Dunderdummy as our DC. He can't be trusted - ever.

We get to find out how real the Packers 'D' is next week.

Belichick's Boys have it all going on right now on both sides of the ball....and forget about game planning for New England.

Mike McCarthy Vs Bill Belichick is simply a 'no contest' as I see it. Opposing teams just never know what he's going to throw out there at you.

The Packers best chance is to go all out offensively and just hope it will be enough.

[woodbuck27]

A leopard doesn't change his spots...

Dunderdummy is still dunderdummy, and MM will throw the challenge flag for no reason at all.

Other things that will never change: 1st down incomplete?? MM will run it into the line on 2nd down to ensure we have a 3rd and 8.

Watch this team long enough, and you know everything that's coming... very predictable.

The Polar Opposite of what 'the Belichick and Brady Show' brings to Green Bay next week.

[Pugger]

I like that stadium. Its a bit small, but it doesnt have a fucking roof over it

Queens should have found a way to play there full time instead of burning tax payer money to build that "thing"

You aren't fond of the queens' new greenhouse they'll be playing in?

[Pugger]

Calm down people...this is a classic trap game. The Chiefs just had one on Thursday. The key is to just get the win and stay healthy. This isn't college...a win is a win.

This all day long. It wasn't pretty but a win is a win, especially on the road to a divisional opponent.

[Pugger]

Need Perry back as odd as that sounds.

Yes, his absence was missed more than we thought it would be. Hopefully he'll be back next Sunday.

[channtheman]

Tough win. But a win on the road against a divisional rival should never be scoffed at. I am a bit concerned about our defense against good QB's, which is what we will face in the playoffs. Sanchez and Bridgewater don't exactly scare anybody. Another test for the Packers this week and finally one against a real QB in Brady.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Lemme take a shot at it. Browns want Manziel to succeed, because he's more marketable. They let Hoyer go, he signs for 7-8M/year and they and get a 3 (or even 4th) round compensatory pick for him.

Manziel is anointed starter, is the second coming of Ryan Leaf, and get replaced by some poor sap of a 5th round draft pick the Brown get next year, who is in turn replaced by someone the Browns pry off the couch around week 10...let's go with Christian Ponder.

Have I got that about right?

Not really.

The Browns keep Hoyer and trade Johnny Football to the Houston Texans for a 1st round pick.

On September 20, 2015 against the Bengals, Manziel replaces an injured What's-His-Name and leads the Texans to victory in the clutch.

The rest is motherfucking history.

[Tyrion Lannister]

We get to find out how real the Packers 'D' is next week.

Belichick's Boys have it all going on right now on both sides of the ball....and forget about game planning for New England.

Mike McCarthy Vs Bill Belichick is simply a 'no contest' as I see it. Opposing teams just never know what he's going to throw out there at you.

The Packers best chance is to go all out offensively and just hope it will be enough.

Well put, WB.

[smuggler]

Based on this effort, I see no reason to be optimistic for January.

[Joemailman]

Based on this effort, I see no reason to be optimistic for January.

Teams have down games. 49ers struggled to beat the Redskins. Cowboys struggled to beat the Giants. The really good teams sometimes find a way to win when they're not at their best.

[mraynrand]

We get to find out how real the Packers 'D' is next week.

Belichick's Boys have it all going on right now on both sides of the ball....and forget about game planning for New England.

Mike McCarthy Vs Bill Belichick is simply a 'no contest' as I see it. Opposing teams just never know what he's going to throw out there at you.

The Packers best chance is to go all out offensively and just hope it will be enough.

F this. Stubby almost punked Belicheat in 2010 with Matt 'noodle arm' Flynn. Stubby is an under-appreciated offensive mind and leader of men. I hope the Packers win just to stick it to all the Belicheat scrotum lappers like you.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Stubby is an under-appreciated offensive mind and leader of men.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6EpMl80CY3c/UOdax3W5i8I/AAAAAAAADWY/eKEuoI13r-s/s200/McCarthy+Real.jpeg

[Pugger]

What is Brady's completion rate when he is on his back foot because he can't follow through?

Because as bad as both Sanchez and Bridgerwater were, they had to move around to find space to throw and that hurt their accuracy. Its no accident that Bridgewater was throwing pop ups early in the game under pressure. Patriots O is not as good as its D. They should be able to pressure Brady, though he's good enough it will not matter as much.

Brady is like every other QB and doesn't like to get hit. His lack of mobility could be an issue for NE on Sunday if we bring pressure.

[3irty1]

If we were on the road I'd expect to get blown out but at home both our lines play 10x better and we're really a different team. I have a feeling Rodgers wants this win bad. He's never beaten the Pats and Brady is his closest competition for the MVP this season.