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Joemailman
12-02-2014, 06:14 AM
Rodgers vs. Atlanta defense is a mismatch. Falcons are dead last in passing yards allowed. The one thing they do well is intercept passes, but Rodgers tends to negate that advantage. The Falcons have only 14 sacks, so Rodgers should have tons of time to throw.

Matt Ryan is having a pretty good year with 21 TD passes and 11 INT's. Julio Jones is healthy and had a monster game last week. They don't run the ball real well though, averaging 97 YPG. Steven Jackson is averaging 3.8 YPC.

Looks like a shootout game that the Packers should dominate.

woodbuck27
12-02-2014, 07:01 AM
I was just watching the men on NFL Access discuss the playoff Final scenario in the NFC.

I don't believe the Green Bay Packers need to be concerned about any team but themselves right now. The team has Atlanta at home MNF in Week 14 (My NO. 20th Ranked Team) then two consecutive weeks on the road Week 15 in Buffalo (Difficult.... My NO. 9 Ranked Team and on the road) and Week 16 in Tampa Bay (My NO. 32 Ranked team but it's on the road).

It's simply win Vs Atlanta and next up.

Finally in Week 17 we could get the very likely showdown game with the Detroit Lions.

Detroit has Tampa Bay and Minny in Weeks 14 and 15. Then their on the road to Chicago (Week 16) and at Packers in Week 17. This could be a huge game for not only the NFCN Title but the NO. 1 Seed in the NFC.

The charge for the NFCN and the #1 Seed in the NFC ensues this coming Monday night with the Atlanta Falcons in Lambeau Field. MM has to prepare his team the same way as he did for New England. We need to hope that the Packers can finish this game with a win and not get too banged up.

So next up is Atlanta and all chips have to be in. It's one game. One game at a time.

GO PACKERS !

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 07:06 AM
^^^ that post really wasn't about Atlanta

hoosier
12-02-2014, 08:47 AM
Trap game. Even though the Falcons can still win their miserable division, they know that they suck and will be playing as if they had nothing to lose. Packers are coming off an emotional win in their biggest game of the year, and will be drained. I expect to see a few uncharacteristic mistakes from ARod and a much closer than expected game. Hopefully it won't be a huge upset loss than ruins all of the team's good work in Oct and Nov.

denverYooper
12-02-2014, 08:56 AM
Trap game. Even though the Falcons can still win their miserable division, they know that they suck and will be playing as if they had nothing to lose. Packers are coming off an emotional win in their biggest game of the year, and will be drained. I expect to see a few uncharacteristic mistakes from ARod and a much closer than expected game. Hopefully it won't be a huge upset loss than ruins all of the team's good work in Oct and Nov.

Aren't trap games usually on the road?

I think this one will go well for the Packers. I'm a little nervous about Tampa Bay and a lot more nervous about Buffalo.

3irty1
12-02-2014, 09:28 AM
Aren't trap games usually on the road?

I think this one will go well for the Packers. I'm a little nervous about Tampa Bay and a lot more nervous about Buffalo.

+1

This isn't a trap. Expect human victory cigar Matt Flynn to have a big week.

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 09:36 AM
I'm inclined to agree with hoosier. Stubby had the players sky high for the Patriots, so Atlanta with its poor record coming into town where we think we're invincible is a recipe for an emotional let down and an upset.

This game will test Stubby's skill at getting his guys ready to play. As a Super Bowl favorite the Packers have a target on their back. Atlanta has something to prove and will be motivated.

Now is not the time for the Packers to take their foot off the gas pedal and coast.

I expect Stubby will find a way to get this message across.

Pugger
12-02-2014, 10:12 AM
I'm inclined to agree with hoosier. Stubby had the players sky high for the Patriots, so Atlanta with its poor record coming into town where we think we're invincible is a recipe for an emotional let down and an upset.

This game will test Stubby's skill at getting his guys ready to play. As a Super Bowl favorite the Packers have a target on their back. Atlanta has something to prove and will be motivated.

Now is not the time for the Packers to take their foot off the gas pedal and coast.

I expect Stubby will find a way to get this message across.

Atlanta has a LOT to play for even with their lousy record. They have to keep winning to stave off the Saints for that pitiful division. But Atlanta isn't the same team on the road compared to at home so if we don't mess up with penalties and turnovers we should take care of business at Lambeau.

hoosier
12-02-2014, 10:42 AM
Aren't trap games usually on the road?

I think this one will go well for the Packers. I'm a little nervous about Tampa Bay and a lot more nervous about Buffalo.

I don't think road has any bearing, it's all about sequencing. A trap game is any time a good team faces a bad opponent right before or right after a game against a quality opponent. Tampa would not qualify as a trap game because there is no distraction looming on the horizon.

According to this site, the concept doesn't bear out in actual games played. https://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2012/11/22/debunking-the-trap-game-and-letdown-game-myths/

woodbuck27
12-02-2014, 10:47 AM
^^^ that post really wasn't about Atlanta

Ohh Dear. Is that a fly buzzing around my head?

" The charge for the NFCN and the #1 Seed in the NFC ensues this coming Monday night with the Atlanta Falcons in Lambeau Field. MM has to prepare his team the same way as he did for New England. We need to hope that the Packers can finish this game with a win and not get too banged up.

So next up is Atlanta and all chips have to be in. It's one game. One game at a time. " woodbuck27

woodbuck27
12-02-2014, 10:56 AM
Trap game. Even though the Falcons can still win their miserable division, they know that they suck and will be playing as if they had nothing to lose. Packers are coming off an emotional win in their biggest game of the year, and will be drained. I expect to see a few uncharacteristic mistakes from ARod and a much closer than expected game. Hopefully it won't be a huge upset loss than ruins all of the team's good work in Oct and Nov.

It's MM's job to ensure that the team is right minded after the possibly emotional win Vs New England. The next two game might be characterized as 'Trap Games'. The Packers should be OK at Home Vs Atlanta.

The next one on the road at Buffalo in Week 15 will be interesting. Buffalo has looked impressive the last two weeks. Their at Denver Broncos in Week 14. That will be a tough game and consideration has to be given to the result of that game for the matchup Vs the Packers @ Home in Week 15.

GO PACKERS !

3irty1
12-02-2014, 10:56 AM
I don't think the Packers will take preparation lightly after Atlanta just toppled Arizona. The team also has plenty to work on after that Pats game, if anything I think their sense of urgency would be heightened. On the road this would be such a trap. It seems like home field advantage is going through a renaissance throughout the league this season. In Lambeau though this is not a trap. The Falcons are an inferior team, a warm weather dome team, coming to Lambeau and will be torn apart.

I also think its about time to start talking about the locker room effect of Peppers. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/68687/julius-peppers-speech-fired-up-packers

In 1996 and in 2010 we had a guy like him, an old hall of famer without a ring. You can't match a sense of urgency like that and having him around as a hungry leader is big.

There's also the classic Mike McCarthy December running game to look forward to but this time Rodgers is also having a run away MVP season. This team isn't going to lose at home and certainly not to the Falcons.

woodbuck27
12-02-2014, 10:58 AM
I'm inclined to agree with hoosier. Stubby had the players sky high for the Patriots, so Atlanta with its poor record coming into town where we think we're invincible is a recipe for an emotional let down and an upset.

This game will test Stubby's skill at getting his guys ready to play. As a Super Bowl favorite the Packers have a target on their back. Atlanta has something to prove and will be motivated.

Now is not the time for the Packers to take their foot off the gas pedal and coast.

I expect Stubby will find a way to get this message across.

Yes.

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 11:03 AM
I referenced the Peppers effect on the team a few weeks ago. There is no doubt he can bring an extra-hungry veteran dimension to the locker room. The guy is smart too. I read where he challenges Capers with tough questions. This team still has a major upside to it.

3irty1
12-02-2014, 11:05 AM
I referenced the Peppers effect on the team a few weeks ago. There is no doubt he can bring an extra-hungry veteran dimension to the locker room. The guy is smart too. I read where he challenges Capers with tough questions. This team still has a major upside to it.

I remember reading that early in the season. Something about how Peppers pointed something out that Capers hadn't considered or something like that.

esoxx
12-02-2014, 11:39 AM
I'm inclined to agree with hoosier. Stubby had the players sky high for the Patriots, so Atlanta with its poor record coming into town where we think we're invincible is a recipe for an emotional let down and an upset.

This game will test Stubby's skill at getting his guys ready to play. As a Super Bowl favorite the Packers have a target on their back. Atlanta has something to prove and will be motivated.

Now is not the time for the Packers to take their foot off the gas pedal and coast.

I expect Stubby will find a way to get this message across.

Why must you disparge one Michael John McCarthy?

denverYooper
12-02-2014, 11:42 AM
I referenced the Peppers effect on the team a few weeks ago. There is no doubt he can bring an extra-hungry veteran dimension to the locker room. The guy is smart too. I read where he challenges Capers with tough questions. This team still has a major upside to it.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Peppers is really going to turn it on in the playoffs, too. Not that he's slacking now, because I think he's generally doing what they ask of him. But I feel like he'll have an extra gear when the prize gets that much more real.

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 11:46 AM
Ohh Dear. Is that a fly buzzing around my head?

i'm betting it's inside your skull. Lay off the wood alcohol.

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 11:47 AM
Why must you disparge one Michael John McCarthy?

Stubby is a term of endearment

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 11:52 AM
Stubby is a term of endearment

My thought exactly.

esoxx
12-02-2014, 11:58 AM
I had been calling him Stubby but now having second thoughts.

From now on, I'm only going to refer to him as "Sir Michael John McCarthy."

esoxx
12-02-2014, 12:01 PM
As for the game, yes, this is a game that is in a classic "let-down" spot. Sky high in game against the Pats, took high intensity, focus, etc.. Now facing a team with losing record, natural tendancy to not rise up to that same level.

Not that they'll need to in order to beat the Falcons, but it's a factor when handicapping this game.

MadScientist
12-02-2014, 12:27 PM
I don't think the Packers will take preparation lightly after Atlanta just toppled Arizona. The team also has plenty to work on after that Pats game, if anything I think their sense of urgency would be heightened. On the road this would be such a trap. It seems like home field advantage is going through a renaissance throughout the league this season. In Lambeau though this is not a trap. The Falcons are an inferior team, a warm weather dome team, coming to Lambeau and will be torn apart.

I also think its about time to start talking about the locker room effect of Peppers. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/68687/julius-peppers-speech-fired-up-packers

In 1996 and in 2010 we had a guy like him, an old hall of famer without a ring. You can't match a sense of urgency like that and having him around as a hungry leader is big.

There's also the classic Mike McCarthy December running game to look forward to but this time Rodgers is also having a run away MVP season. This team isn't going to lose at home and certainly not to the Falcons.

Agree with this. Atlanta is coming off a good win against a 9-2 opponent. They put up 500 yards against that defense. The Packers are coming off a squeaker at home where they totally failed in the red zone. There's plenty to keep the Packers focused on this game. And if there is any hint of a let down, MM just need to say 'Did anybody get a ring for winning last Sunday? Did we clinch home field advantage for the playoffs? No, then we have a lot of work to do."

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 01:07 PM
I had been calling him Stubby but now having second thoughts.

From now on, I'm only going to refer to him as "Sir Michael John McCarthy."

I think I'm going to refer to him from now on as "Fat Stubby." Half the fun of being a fan is hurling terms of endearment at professional coaches and managers.

esoxx
12-02-2014, 01:20 PM
I think I'm going to refer to him from now on as "Fat Stubby." Half the fun of being a fan is hurling terms of endearment at professional coaches and managers.

What is your BMI?

Fritz
12-02-2014, 01:21 PM
I kinda like "Fat Mike." It reminds me of "Fat" Tuesday Weld.

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 01:35 PM
What is your BMI?

Off the charts. If my height were proportional to my weight, I'd be as tall as Eino Hendrickson.

oldbutnotdeadyet
12-02-2014, 02:09 PM
I had been calling him Stubby but now having second thoughts.

From now on, I'm only going to refer to him as "Sir Michael John McCarthy."

Youse guys are confusing the hell out of me, now I don't know what to call him, mayne just coach?

oldbutnotdeadyet
12-02-2014, 02:10 PM
When you are playing to get to the superbowl, all games are trap games...

Tyrion Lannister
12-02-2014, 02:39 PM
Ticket prices for this game are dwindling like an Enron stock on Stubhub.

I just purchased tickets for myself and my escort. For those of you too weak to weather the frigid Russian-like winter, look for me on TV. I will be sitting next to a hot chick, wearing a Favre jersey and holding up a sign that reads:

Elf's
Sports And
Playboy
Network

"Fire Ted Thompson!"

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 02:44 PM
Ticket prices for this game are dwindling like an Enron stock on Stubhub.

I just purchased tickets for myself and my escort. For those of you too weak to weather the frigid Russian-like winter, look for me on TV. I will be sitting next to a hot chick, wearing a Favre jersey and holding up a sign that reads:

Elf's
Sports And
Playboy
Network

"Fire Ted Thompson!"

you ain't gettin on TV with that sign, but it will impress your date. Have fun.

Cheesehead Craig
12-02-2014, 02:56 PM
I remember reading that early in the season. Something about how Peppers pointed something out that Capers hadn't considered or something like that.

Yep, I thought back then that this was part of the improvement of Capers' defense in that a respected defensive player points out things and forces changes to be made for the better.

Beat the dirty birds!

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 03:30 PM
Here's three reasons [other than the trap game argument] why the Falcons are not going to be pushovers next Monday Night:

1. The Falcons record since their bye week is 3 wins and 1 loss. Two of these wins were away games at Tampa and Carolina. Besides the Cardinals, they beat Cleveland in Atlanta. In the game prior to their bye they lost to Detroit in Atlanta by 1 point. The point is the Falcons have been getting progressively better over the past several weeks.

2. Look at their depth chart. On offense they have talent at the skill positions: WR Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas; RB Steven Jackson, Jacquizz Rodgers, Devonta Freeman; QB Matt Ryan; TE 6'8" 265 lbs. Levine Toiolo.

Jones, Douglas, Jackson and Ryan had big games vs the Cards. Toilolo had a TD catch. Jones had 189 yds and a TD on 10 catches. Jackson rushed 18 times for 101 yds. They controlled time of possession 37 minutes to 23! Roddy White was inactive but is expected to play against the Pack. (Atlanta's weakness seems to be their OL where two rookies and a 2nd year man are starting.)

[Atlanta is dead last in total defense and pass defense. Still, their secondary came up with 2 interceptions and a forced fumble last week.]

3. Devin Hester. He's back! I don't have to explain this one to Packer fans. Hester has gashed the Pack many times over his career and you can bet he'll be sky high next Monday Night in prime time. Even if he doesn't return a punt or a kick for a TD, he'll present a problem for the Pack in field position.

Do we try to kick deep on him in cold weather and risk a return? Do we squib it? Bloop it? Directional kick it and risk out of bounds? Will Stubby be tempted to onside kick?

Our Packers MUST stay focused for this game. It's no gimme.

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 03:55 PM
Besides the Cardinals, they beat Cleveland in Atlanta.

They did?

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 04:00 PM
Maxi, any given Sunday and all that, but the Cards O was gawdawful at ATL. I mean it was terrible. Hester did return a kick for a TD (that was wrongly called back due to a face mask by Hester after he scored), so he is still dangerous.

http://img.pandawhale.com/92125-thats-right-ice-man-gif-Tom-Cr-JALd.gif

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 04:25 PM
Maxi, any given Sunday and all that, but the Cards O was gawdawful at ATL. I mean it was terrible. Hester did return a kick for a TD (that was wrongly called back due to a face mask by Hester after he scored), so he is still dangerous.

I watched a few Atlanta games this year because they televise them down here. They have had a bunch of injuries and play very inconsistent. Common denominators are Hester and Jones, who are always good, bonehead D and Ryan who can look like an elite QB one week and Duke Carlisle the next.

I don't think Ryan and company are in awe of Lambeau. Didn't they come up here a few years ago and blow us out? :sad:

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 04:31 PM
I don't think Ryan and company are in awe of Lambeau. Didn't they come up here a few years ago and blow us out? :sad:

no, they did not. In 2008, they won 27-24. 12 years ago in the playoffs, they won handily, but that was pre-everyone on the current rosters and staff, except maybe some equipment guys and docs.


Cleveland 26, Atlanta 24.

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 04:54 PM
no, they did not. In 2008, they won 27-24. 12 years ago in the playoffs, they won handily, but that was pre-everyone on the current rosters and staff, except maybe some equipment guys and docs.


Cleveland 26, Atlanta 24.

Oops! 2002 seems just like yesterday. And I must have brain farted on the Cleveland game (and usually at my age that's not pretty).

Good thing I have a reliable fact checker. :thank:

mraynrand
12-02-2014, 04:56 PM
Oops! 2002 seems just like yesterday.

and breakfast was just 5 minutes ago. That and failing eyesight, etc. etc. - getting old sucks.

Maxie the Taxi
12-02-2014, 04:58 PM
and breakfast was just 5 minutes ago. That and failing eyesight, etc. etc. - getting old sucks.

Actually, the 2002 blowout is still vivid in my mind. But breakfast? You don't have any information on what I had, do you?:-|

channtheman
12-02-2014, 05:02 PM
Agree with this. Atlanta is coming off a good win against a 9-2 opponent. They put up 500 yards against that defense. The Packers are coming off a squeaker at home where they totally failed in the red zone. There's plenty to keep the Packers focused on this game. And if there is any hint of a let down, MM just need to say 'Did anybody get a ring for winning last Sunday? Did we clinch home field advantage for the playoffs? No, then we have a lot of work to do."


I was going to come and mention this. We beat the Patriots, but we didn't play perfectly by any means. The defense did well but had it's miserable moments with tackling. Our red zone offense didn't even play. Rodgers was errant on more than 1 throw. If Sir Michael John McCarthy can't get this team focused when we are fighting for a #1 seed, than we are doomed already.

channtheman
12-02-2014, 05:03 PM
I kinda like "Fat Mike." It reminds me of "Fat" Tuesday Weld.

Sounds like a movie... or maybe it was a NOFX band member.

Joemailman
12-02-2014, 05:33 PM
I don't think trap games really happen on Monday Night. I think teams still get fired up for playing in front of the national audience. Besides, I don't think it's a trap game when your next game is with Buffalo. Just don't see the Packers getting caught looking ahead to Buffalo.

ThunderDan
12-02-2014, 05:41 PM
I don't think trap games really happen on Monday Night. I think teams still get fired up for playing in front of the national audience. Besides, I don't think it's a trap game when your next game is with Buffalo. Just don't see the Packers getting caught looking ahead to Buffalo.

I was just going to post the same thing. Buffalo? Overlooking Atlanta for Buffalo? I don't think so. If there is a trap game left it is TB before the Lions game to finish the season at home.

Bossman641
12-02-2014, 06:21 PM
I don't think Atlanta will put up much of a fight on a cold Monday night. Packers should activate Tolzien so he gets some second half garbage minutes

Pack 37 - Atlanta 17

pbmax
12-02-2014, 07:24 PM
I referenced the Peppers effect on the team a few weeks ago. There is no doubt he can bring an extra-hungry veteran dimension to the locker room. The guy is smart too. I read where he challenges Capers with tough questions. This team still has a major upside to it.


I remember reading that early in the season. Something about how Peppers pointed something out that Capers hadn't considered or something like that.

Rodgers in his radio show today touched on this in reverse as well. Rookies doing well and discovering talents and contributions no one expected pushes vets and provides another source of inspiration and hope. He mentioned Starks in the 2010 playoff campaign. And he thought the same thing might be in effect with Ha-Ha, Adams and Linsley and the vets like Peppers.

You get both and it becomes a nice positive feedback system.

pbmax
12-02-2014, 07:30 PM
Agree that trap game, should it exist, requires something fearsome on the other side that distracts you and that isn't Buffalo.

You could argue that after clearing the hurdle that the Patriots represented, Atlanta represents a manhole on the landing spot.

channtheman
12-02-2014, 09:27 PM
I was just going to post the same thing. Buffalo? Overlooking Atlanta for Buffalo? I don't think so. If there is a trap game left it is TB before the Lions game to finish the season at home.

And we always lose at Tampa Bay so that should be a game we are fully prepared for.

woodbuck27
12-02-2014, 09:36 PM
I was just going to post the same thing. Buffalo? Overlooking Atlanta for Buffalo? I don't think so. If there is a trap game left it is TB before the Lions game to finish the season at home.

No.... It's prepare to win each game ..."one game at a time" and NOT looking further ahead than that weeks BIG game.

Putting any emphasis on this or that game being a trap game implies a lack of fan support for the real objective and that being a reality based faith.

Today I believe that the Green Bay Packers will win the next Super Bowl. I have faith in that outcome.

GO PACK GO !

pbmax
12-02-2014, 09:39 PM
No.... It's prepare to win each game ..."one game at a time" and NOT looking further ahead than that weeks BIG game.

Putting any emphasis on this or that game being a trap game implies a lack of fan support for the real objective and that being a reality based faith.

Today I believe that the Green Bay Packers will win the next Super Bowl. I have faith in that outcome.

GO PACK GO !

:whaa:

Woodie, Dan is not predicting nor endorsing a trap game. Or looking ahead.

He is saying that to call the Atlanta game a trap game is to misidentify what people mean by the term "trap game".

woodbuck27
12-02-2014, 10:26 PM
:whaa:

Woodie, Dan is not predicting nor endorsing a trap game. Or looking ahead.

He is saying that to call the Atlanta game a trap game is to misidentify what people mean by the term "trap game".

I'm posting now that there are zero...natta...NO trap games ahead in our schedule.

We have to see MM prepare the Packers for each and every week through Week 17.

We need to see the team execute for four straight added wins to our current win streak and have faith that all will be OK.

Thus even implying that there might be a Trap Game in the mix is irrelevant or moot.

GO PACKERS !

wist43
12-02-2014, 10:43 PM
We should win this game easily... even if they manage to get their offense going, and dunderdummy reverts to his retarded state, we still should be able to put up enough offense that this game should be well in hand by half time or shortly thereafter.

The game I'm worred about, other than Detroit, is @Buffalo. They have a very stout defense, and Buffalo is never anyones favorite place to play. Trap game.

HarveyWallbangers
12-02-2014, 10:47 PM
human victory cigar Matt Flynn

Nice.

mraynrand
12-03-2014, 07:26 AM
If Sir Michael John McCarthy can't get this team focused when we are fighting for a #1 seed, than we are doomed already.

That's what I was thinking too during and after the Patriots game - how bad the Packers were and how unfocused they were against a marginal team at home. This team is doomed - they just can't play well against good teams when it counts.

mraynrand
12-03-2014, 07:29 AM
Just don't see the Packers getting caught looking ahead to Buffalo.

I see the Packers looking back at Buffalo and saying what was that train that ran over our O-line? And now we have to face good fronts at Tampa and against Detroit.

channtheman
12-03-2014, 07:42 AM
That's what I was thinking too during and after the Patriots game - how bad the Packers were and how unfocused they were against a marginal team at home. This team is doomed - they just can't play well against good teams when it counts.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I see.

smuggler
12-03-2014, 08:07 AM
Or maybe he was being sardonic?

mraynrand
12-03-2014, 08:08 AM
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I see.

what do you mean?

3irty1
12-03-2014, 08:20 AM
We should win this game easily... even if they manage to get their offense going, and dunderdummy reverts to his retarded state, we still should be able to put up enough offense that this game should be well in hand by half time or shortly thereafter.

The game I'm worred about, other than Detroit, is @Buffalo. They have a very stout defense, and Buffalo is never anyones favorite place to play. Trap game.

This is me too. I'm actually not that worried about Detroit but Buffalo will be a challenge. I'm even more worried about Tampa Bay than detroit just because that place is a house of horrors + you can always count on Lovie to call a good game against us.

Pugger
12-03-2014, 10:32 AM
Buffalo has a nice defense but their offense isn't. Tampa? Please. Just because we've had problems in the past doesn't mean we're gonna tank there. I get every stinkin' Tampa game down here and they are truly dreadful. If we don't screw up with penalties and turnovers we should win both of these games. Detroit could be a problem. They have a legit D and sooner or later they're gonna win a game in Wisconsin. That game worries me more than the others we still have to play.

mraynrand
12-03-2014, 11:27 AM
Agree that trap game, should it exist, requires something fearsome on the other side that distracts you and that isn't Buffalo.

You could argue that after clearing the hurdle that the Patriots represented, Atlanta represents a manhole on the landing spot.

From Bob McGinn's Column:


Hold the phone. A third personnel man picked Atlanta, 20-17.

"I see this as a trap game for Green Bay," the scout said. "I'm expecting an emotional letdown on offense as the Packers come off the New England game.

"This is my upset of the week. Gulp!"

Von Trapp strikes again!

mraynrand
12-03-2014, 11:29 AM
More Trapping:


Mike Tice, the new line coach, installed the Bears' type run game featuring traps, power plays and pulling.

Shut your trap!

hoosier
12-03-2014, 11:52 AM
Packers are gonna lose four in a row to end the season, like a wild animal getting all four paws stuck in traps, and will miss the playoffs.

ThunderDan
12-03-2014, 11:59 AM
We have to see MM prepare the Packers for each and every week through Week 17.

GO PACKERS !

Are you implying that MM doesn't prepare the Packers each and every week?

woodbuck27
12-03-2014, 12:52 PM
Are you implying that MM doesn't prepare the Packers each and every week?

I'm ignoring that. The question is too silly.

Fritz
12-03-2014, 01:22 PM
So how 'bout dem Flaycons?

Cheesehead Craig
12-03-2014, 01:42 PM
So how 'bout dem Flaycons?

Are those like Decepticons?

hoosier
12-03-2014, 01:47 PM
So how 'bout dem Flaycons?


Are those like Decepticons?

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/6a/34/50/6a3450eae9eb4dd67fd81275b5fc3acc.jpg

Nah, it's a Puerto Rican marketing of a well known cereal.

Teamcheez1
12-03-2014, 02:16 PM
From Bob McGinn's Column:



Von Trapp strikes again!

Dome team.
At Lambeau.
Packers are playing better as of late.
Matty ice is the QB.

I like our chances.

Tyrion Lannister
12-03-2014, 03:00 PM
Matty ice is the QB.



Don't underestimate Ice Ice Ryan. The guy's a good QB. Can make all the throws. The Packers DBs better bring their A-game.

Ryan is my favorite non-Packers QB since Joey Harrington.

pbmax
12-03-2014, 06:38 PM
Don't underestimate Ice Ice Ryan. The guy's a good QB. Can make all the throws. The Packers DBs better bring their A-game.

Ryan is my favorite non-Packers QB since Joey Harrington.

I see a lot about his very good arm, but each time I have watched him (probably a grand total of five times admittedly) I keep seeing wobbles on 40+ deep throws. Not saying he is bad at all, but I think that arm in overestimated in general and his WR make it hard to tease it out. Tramontana got him on a flutter ball short in the playoff game.

Maxie the Taxi
12-04-2014, 08:05 AM
Something tells me Rodgers ain't gonna have as much time to pass Monday Night as he had last Sunday. Unlike Belicheat, Mike Smith is probably planning to blitz the farm:

Falcons finally find way to generate pressure, even with no sacks (http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/10444/falcons-finally-find-way-to-generate-pressure-even-with-no-sacks)


The Falcons didn't record a sack, but they put tremendous pressure on quarterback Drew Stanton (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10487/drew-stanton). Defensive coordinator Mike Nolan was aggressive with his blitz packages, and defensive linemen Jonathan Babineaux (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8473/jonathan-babineaux), Corey Peters (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13292/corey-peters) and Cliff Matthews (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14182/cliff-matthews) stepped up with big defensive efforts while winning their battles at the line of scrimmage.

Smith pointed to third-down efficiency as the statistic most indicative of the defensive pressure applied. The Cardinals were 1-of-7 on third down.

"We went into the game wanting to put pressure on the quarterback, and I know the first thing you're going to say is, 'Well, Coach, you had no sacks.' But we hit and knock the quarterback down 11 times," Smith said Monday. "So we got accomplished what we needed to get accomplished. We forced three turnovers. There were two others that we felt like we possibly should have had in the ballgame. So we did a good job on third down.

"We had the quarterback feeling the pressure, and we took the ball away. And when you win the turnover battle and you win third downs on defense, you're going to have a pretty good day."

Cheesehead Craig
12-04-2014, 08:12 AM
Rodgers ain't Stanton and our WRs are better than AZs. Rodgers has a 132 QB rating vs the blitz.

Bring it Smith.

mraynrand
12-04-2014, 08:16 AM
I see a lot about his very good arm, but each time I have watched him (probably a grand total of five times admittedly) I keep seeing wobbles on 40+ deep throws. Not saying he is bad at all, but I think that arm in overestimated in general and his WR make it hard to tease it out. Tramontana got him on a flutter ball short in the playoff game.

not a great arm. And watching the slow windup for the deep ball is painful - unless you want the Falcons to lose.

But he did have perfect placement to Julio against the Cards, so there's that to recommend him.

denverYooper
12-04-2014, 08:56 AM
Rodgers ain't Stanton and our WRs are better than AZs. Rodgers has a 132 QB rating vs the blitz.

Bring it Smith.

This.

Blitzing Rodgers often is going to produce very different results than blitzing Stanton, even before you take into account for home/away pass rush advantages.

Tyrion Lannister
12-04-2014, 09:01 AM
I see a lot about his very good arm, but each time I have watched him (probably a grand total of five times admittedly) I keep seeing wobbles on 40+ deep throws. Not saying he is bad at all, but I think that arm in overestimated in general and his WR make it hard to tease it out. Tramontana got him on a flutter ball short in the playoff game.

It was only a couple of seasons ago that Ryan was a MVP candidate in leading the Falcons to a 13-3 record.

Ryan doesn't throw the prettiest deep ball in the league, but he's not gonna miss open receivers by a mile, ala Sanchez and Bridgewater.

Hopefully, Sheilds gets cleared to play in this game. House is overrated. Hyde cannot be trusted. He's the Hawk of the DBs: Knows the D but is average at best. As I wrote in another post, the DBs need to bring their A-game.

Btw, as much as I like T-Will, he's not the same player he was in '10.

denverYooper
12-04-2014, 09:13 AM
Flynn beat Matty Ice in Lambeau last year.

Tyrion Lannister
12-04-2014, 09:20 AM
Flynn beat Matty Ice in Lambeau last year.

By 1 freaking point! I believe Jones and White didn't play in that game.

Trust me, Ryan is a very good QB and a great leader. The only thing preventing him from elite status is success in the playoffs.

denverYooper
12-04-2014, 09:27 AM
By 1 freaking point! I believe Jones and White didn't play in that game.

Trust me, Ryan is a very good QB and a great leader. The only thing preventing him from elite status is success in the playoffs.

And success against backup QBs.

George Cumby
12-04-2014, 09:39 AM
Don't underestimate Ice Ice Ryan. The guy's a good QB. Can make all the throws. The Packers DBs better bring their A-game.

Ryan is my favorite non-Packers QB since Joey Harrington.

Lol! I forgot about that line of trolling.

ThunderDan
12-04-2014, 09:43 AM
By 1 freaking point! I believe Jones and White didn't play in that game.

Trust me, Ryan is a very good QB and a great leader. The only thing preventing him from elite status is success in the playoffs.

How many wins has Matty Ice lead his team to this year with his great leadership?

Tyrion Lannister
12-04-2014, 09:45 AM
And success against backup QBs.

Beat Stanton last week, so your argument is null and void. :jig:

Zool
12-04-2014, 09:48 AM
How many wins has Matty Ice lead his team to this year with his great leadership?

5! one more than last year already. He's really on a roll.

BTW they didn't call him Matty Ice because he's cool under pressure. It rhymes with Natty Ice which is the worst beer of all time.

Tyrion Lannister
12-04-2014, 09:50 AM
How many wins has Matty Ice lead his team to this year with his great leadership?

The Falcons are better than their record indicates. They have a bunch of injuries at key positions; same as last season. With their season dangling on a string, they likely will be all-in against the Pack.

Aces, Packers must a-bring.

Fritz
12-04-2014, 10:17 AM
I do think the Falcons are on a roll now, so I think this game could be tough. I'm glad it's a Monday nighter.

ThunderDan
12-04-2014, 10:17 AM
The Falcons are better than their record indicates. They have a bunch of injuries at key positions; same as last season. With their season dangling on a string, they likely will be all-in against the Pack.

Aces, Packers must a-bring.

ARI was the first team they have beat that wasn't in the NFC South.

The Bears beat them by 14 in ATL.

Fritz
12-04-2014, 10:25 AM
ThunderDan, you're the guy Mike McCarthy has to worry about during practice this week.

One game at a time. They're professionals, too. We can't look ahead. On any given Sunday (or Monday or Thursday).

Don't forget your cliches.

ThunderDan
12-04-2014, 10:33 AM
ThunderDan, you're the guy Mike McCarthy has to worry about during practice this week.

One game at a time. They're professionals, too. We can't look ahead. On any given Sunday (or Monday or Thursday).

Don't forget your cliches.

It's a trap game or not a trap game. Maybe Buffalo is a trap game or not a trap game.

If the Packers are well prepared for the game Monday night we will win. I don't see MM ever not preparing so I have faith we will be OK.

ThunderDan
12-04-2014, 10:35 AM
I just find it funny that a 5-7 team gets all the benefit of the doubt and the 9-3 team has to have worries. I watched one ATL game this year and was not impressed.

mraynrand
12-04-2014, 12:11 PM
It's a trap game or not a trap game. Maybe Buffalo is a trap game or not a trap game.

http://approximatelyforever.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ackbarTrap02s_zps3f0d0cf4.jpg

Guiness
12-04-2014, 12:24 PM
And success against backup QBs. :rs:

Guiness
12-04-2014, 12:28 PM
It's a trap game or not a trap game. Maybe Buffalo is a trap game or not a trap game.

If the Packers are well prepared for the game Monday night we will win. I don't see MM ever not preparing so I have faith we will be OK.

The Bills is not a trap game, it's a team that the Packers realistically have to be careful of. They're very good. Hoping to be at that game, I've got tickets.

pbmax
12-04-2014, 12:37 PM
Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 16m16 minutes ago
#Packers practice: Shields (concussion), Lattimore not working. New injuries: Daniels, Boyd sit out.

Daniels and Boyd were both trapped.

Fritz
12-04-2014, 12:39 PM
Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 16m16 minutes ago
#Packers practice: Shields (concussion), Lattimore not working. New injuries: Daniels, Boyd sit out.

Daniels and Boyd were both trapped.

Perry in or out? Any report?

pbmax
12-04-2014, 01:51 PM
Perry in or out? Any report?

Apparently in but he was on a snap count for the Patriots game. He was in for 10 plays.

mraynrand
12-04-2014, 02:53 PM
Apparently in but he was on a snap count for the Patriots game. He was in for 10 plays.

He's getting 'closer' snaps

Cheesehead Craig
12-04-2014, 03:32 PM
We're falling into the trap that Perry is going to get healthy.

Maxie the Taxi
12-04-2014, 03:39 PM
I think Mad oughta put Ayn and maybe Craig on a trap count.

Zool
12-04-2014, 03:47 PM
http://approximatelyforever.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ackbarTrap02s_zps3f0d0cf4.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m1aA4ROvlsQ/T12C8L6mgJI/AAAAAAAAHlI/h0WVlrS0uYE/s1600/its_a_tarp.gif

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 04:23 PM
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/6a/34/50/6a3450eae9eb4dd67fd81275b5fc3acc.jpg

Nah, it's a Puerto Rican marketing of a well known cereal.

That was clever.

Of course we're aware that the Atlanta Falcons OL is Ranked ahead of the Packers:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Yet somehow it ends up like this:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff

MM will prepare the Packers to win on National TV.

To lose this game would just be embarrassing, upsetting, annoying outrageous, sickening, lousy, distressing, troubling, perturbing, disturbing, unsettling, disconcerting ...a really huge piss off.

A loss would:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR05OCD5ojVLcxwffRh_dY1YQ5jmQ4_t WOVtRcYHnUXz9Cn-VU

Fritz
12-04-2014, 04:34 PM
I just find it funny that a 5-7 team gets all the benefit of the doubt and the 9-3 team has to have worries. I watched one ATL game this year and was not impressed.

It's all part of the plan. Since we all know the entire Packer team and coaching staff read this site, we're trying to keep them from falling into the overconfidence trap by pumping up Atlanta and bemoaning the Packers' chances.

We are smart here. S-m-r-t.

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 04:34 PM
I just find it funny that a 5-7 team gets all the benefit of the doubt and the 9-3 team has to have worries. I watched one ATL game this year and was not impressed.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpqf_qBWSqRFfy8UnQSbNhVRqh6hYFa Wu2aMDMklg3jQ8hI5Zw

It's ohh ohh so so ...........frussssstrrrrrrating !!!

mraynrand
12-04-2014, 04:55 PM
I think Mad oughta put Ayn and maybe Craig on a trap count.

http://blog.us-reports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/golf-sand-trap.jpg

Rutnstrut
12-04-2014, 06:08 PM
The one thing about the Falcons that scares me is they pretty good special teams, and we have Slocum. If this has been said i apologize as I didn't read all the replies.

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 07:10 PM
The one thing about the Falcons that scares me is they pretty good special teams, and we have Slocum. If this has been said i apologize as I didn't read all the replies.

Your correct:

The Falcons are Ranked 8th on ST's Vs the Packers @ 19th.

pbmax
12-04-2014, 07:34 PM
Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 3h3 hours ago
Josh Boyd (knee) said he's hoping to be back at practice Friday. Like Mike Daniels, was experiencing some soreness #Packers

Freak Out
12-04-2014, 07:43 PM
From Bob McGinn's Column:



Von Trapp strikes again!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/28/article-1324610-0BCF0A57000005DC-45_634x347.jpg

denverYooper
12-04-2014, 09:04 PM
The Von Trapps were so 2 pages ago.

George Cumby
12-04-2014, 09:42 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/28/article-1324610-0BCF0A57000005DC-45_634x347.jpg

Liesl is SO good looking (Charmian Carr was 23 when the movie came out, I'm not a perv:-))

mission
12-04-2014, 11:22 PM
The Falcons are a joke guys. Their coach is the true Stubby and they have no pass rush or secondary.

Way too much credit here. Should hear the local sports talk guys... they way they joke about how this game is an automatic loss makes me feel good.

woodbuck27
12-05-2014, 06:05 AM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/284809731.html

Packers know they 'can't let up at all' vs. Falcons

By: Tyler Dunne of the Journal Sentinel

Dec. 4, 2014

pittstang5
12-05-2014, 07:53 AM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpqf_qBWSqRFfy8UnQSbNhVRqh6hYFa Wu2aMDMklg3jQ8hI5Zw

It's ohh ohh so so ...........frussssstrrrrrrating !!!

WOW Woody, that pic is a blast from the past. Garbage Pail kids the movie. I liked that movie growing up, haven't seen it in years.

KYPack
12-05-2014, 09:23 AM
Don't underestimate Ice Ice Ryan. The guy's a good QB. Can make all the throws. The Packers DBs better bring their A-game.

Ryan is my favorite non-Packers QB since Joey Harrington.

Now we gotta read this shit from our non-favorite jerk-off.

(I know "gotta read" gets Harlan and Rand all fired up, but so what?)

He's also bringing up shit about Sherman and jacking threads.

Enforce the ban on the Fanboy Troll.

mraynrand
12-05-2014, 10:13 AM
He's also bringing up shit about Sherman and jacking threads.

Enforce the ban on the Fanboy Troll.

:jack:

Stop talking about Sherman, KY! :)

Cheesehead Craig
12-05-2014, 10:31 AM
You all fell into his trap.

Fritz
12-05-2014, 10:35 AM
It's a trap game that he's playing.

pittstang5
12-05-2014, 11:00 AM
This game has the feeling that it could go like the Vikings game in Minnesota. A team we should beat but stuck around to the bitter end.

KYPack
12-05-2014, 11:10 AM
:jack:

Stop talking about Sherman, KY! :)

No way, Aynie.

Now que Harlan with his "no censorship, Joan of Arc" speech.

Joemailman
12-05-2014, 02:10 PM
Now we gotta read this shit from our non-favorite jerk-off.

(I know "gotta read" gets Harlan and Rand all fired up, but so what?)

He's also bringing up shit about Sherman and jacking threads.

Enforce the ban on the Fanboy Troll.

He ain't exactly the only one who goes off topic around here. Unless you think pictures of the Von Trapp family have something to do with Packers/Falcons. Hell, your post is more off topic than the one of his you quoted. This place has survived for over 8 years with some real strange characters. Mad ain't gonna let him blow this place up. Relax. Read the Serenity Prayer or something.

Rutnstrut
12-05-2014, 02:40 PM
The Falcons are a joke guys. Their coach is the true Stubby and they have no pass rush or secondary.

Way too much credit here. Should hear the local sports talk guys... they way they joke about how this game is an automatic loss makes me feel good.

I just hope Stubby and the rest of the team don't think that way. This is exactly the type of game I can see them losing.

KYPack
12-05-2014, 02:54 PM
He ain't exactly the only one who goes off topic around here. Unless you think pictures of the Von Trapp family have something to do with Packers/Falcons. Hell, your post is more off topic than the one of his you quoted. This place has survived for over 8 years with some real strange characters. Mad ain't gonna let him blow this place up. Relax. Read the Serenity Prayer or something.

Joe, you are one of the few, the proud, and the brave.

That's posters that I'd listen to.

smuggler
12-05-2014, 03:35 PM
Ryan is a good QB. He will never be great because of his physical limitations (unless he turns into Peyton Manning late in his career). Watching him attempt sideline throws has got to get defensive coordinators halfway hard. Probably full-on if they're properly medicated. :)

Freak Out
12-05-2014, 05:18 PM
Joe, you are one of the few, the proud, and the brave.

That's posters that I'd listen to.

I once had custard with the Mailman....also went to Lambeau field a second time to replace a glass I broke at GB007s house.

I would enjoy having another beverage or two with him.

pbmax
12-05-2014, 07:27 PM
Serenity now, insanity later.

pbmax
12-05-2014, 08:28 PM
Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 7h7 hours ago
#Packers injury report:
DNP - Lattimore, Daniels, Shields, Lane Taylor (illness)
Limited - Sitton, Lang, Boyd, Perry (shoulder)

Joemailman
12-05-2014, 08:52 PM
I have a feeling we're not going to see Sam Monday Night.

woodbuck27
12-05-2014, 09:55 PM
He ain't exactly the only one who goes off topic around here. Unless you think pictures of the Von Trapp family have something to do with Packers/Falcons. Hell, your post is more off topic than the one of his you quoted. This place has survived for over 8 years with some real strange characters. Mad ain't gonna let him blow this place up. Relax. Read the Serenity Prayer or something.

Joemailman ...... I agree.

Repped.

woodbuck27
12-05-2014, 10:03 PM
Ryan is a good QB. He will never be great because of his physical limitations (unless he turns into Peyton Manning late in his career). Watching him attempt sideline throws has got to get defensive coordinators halfway hard. Probably full-on if they're properly medicated. :)

A couple of the things that MM will be looking at:

Matt Ryan and the Atlanta Offense should be getting NO. 30 Ranked WR Roddy White back in much better health and NO. 14 Ranked WR Julius Jones was lights out terrific last week.

mraynrand
12-05-2014, 10:45 PM
NO. 14 Ranked WR Julius Jones was lights out terrific last week.

reincarnated!

http://prod.static.seahawks.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/imported/SEA/photos/players/playercard/2010/Jones-Julius.jpg

Tyrion Lannister
12-06-2014, 05:31 AM
Ryan is a good QB. He will never be great because of his physical limitations (unless he turns into Peyton Manning late in his career). Watching him attempt sideline throws has got to get defensive coordinators halfway hard. Probably full-on if they're properly medicated. :)

lol :lol:

Tyrion Lannister
12-06-2014, 06:26 AM
I have a feeling we're not going to see Sam Monday Night.

The extra day off this week should help. Does he have a history of concussions? I can't seem to recall another time in the past where Sheilds hurt his head. Then again, I can't seem to recall a lot of things since I, too, was once a football player - one that shut down Darren Charles in a high school football game.

Note: Concussions are no joking matters. I was simply poking fun of myself b/c I lack self-esteem and the highlights of my hippie youth were shutting Darren Charles and hanging out with Darren Sharper. :D

pbmax
12-06-2014, 08:48 AM
Ryan is a good QB. He will never be great because of his physical limitations (unless he turns into Peyton Manning late in his career). Watching him attempt sideline throws has got to get defensive coordinators halfway hard. Probably full-on if they're properly medicated. :)

Is the short out pattern still his favorite?

George Cumby
12-06-2014, 08:58 AM
:grin::grin::-D
Is the short out pattern still his favorite?

CaptainD
12-06-2014, 09:06 AM
The Falcons are a joke guys. Their coach is the true Stubby and they have no pass rush or secondary.

Way too much credit here. Should hear the local sports talk guys... they way they joke about how this game is an automatic loss makes me feel good.

Bingo ... unless the dirty birds signed 4-5 players we don't know about not enough fire power to get close to GB right now. :tup:

pbmax
12-06-2014, 09:21 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2289923-nfl-week-14-picks-jury-duty-seahawks-rebirth-and-the-chargers-invasion

Closer than you think?



Falcons at Packers

Monday, 8:30 p.m.

Line: Packers -13

It's hard to take this game seriously as a battle of first-place teams in the NFC, especially after Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel surveyed his inside sources and quoted NFL scouts and personnel experts stating that the Falcons winning the AFC South would be "a joke." "If Green Bay doesn't torch them for 40, I'll be shocked," one insider told McGinn. "Atlanta's secondary is as bad as Philadelphia's secondary," one source said. Hey, Cary Williams and Nate Allen have feelings too! You don't have to be mean by comparing them to Robert Alford and Dwight Lowery!

One scout thinks the Lambeau weather will make a difference. "I just think the Falcons have notoriously struggled outside."

Actually, while the Falcons have a semi-pronounced home-road split, they are 5-1 under Mike Smith in outdoor games when the kickoff temperature was below 45 degrees (courtesy Pro Football Reference's Boxscore Finder).

It makes you wonder what else the experts might have overlooked. William Moore has returned at safety, for example, to sure up that Falcons secondary. The Falcons still rank last in the NFL in Football Outsiders' defensive DVOA, but they have been creeping back toward the pack after early season embarrassments by the Vikings and Bears. Some of the youngsters are starting to figure things out.

Picking an upset here would be taking things too far, and the Vegas action suggests that the public agrees with the experts (the line moved nearly three points toward the Packers during the week). But if the Falcons climb to .500 because their young defense starts to gel and the Matt Ryan-Julio Jones combo spearheads a still-dangerous offense, that would be a sign of progress, not a "joke."

The Panthers making the playoffs? That would be a joke.

Prediction: Packers 34, Falcons 24

mraynrand
12-06-2014, 09:26 AM
I stopped reading after "http://bleacherreport.com"

pbmax
12-06-2014, 09:48 AM
I stopped reading after "http://bleacherreport.com"

Nah, that guy Tanier is legit. From Football Outsiders and Sports On Earth. BR have hired some legitimate writers and not just unpaid fan contributors in the last couple of years. Of course, unless you know them by name, its impossible to distinguish, in a Google search, the wheat from the chaff.

Maxie the Taxi
12-06-2014, 11:13 AM
It's funny how the Atlanta "homers" (at ESPN, for example) disagree with McGinn's experts. The homers readily admit Atlanta's defense is not good. However, they consider their secondary pretty darn good, especially after Moore's return. They readily admit as well that their pass rush is a joke.

mraynrand
12-06-2014, 11:14 AM
Actually, while the Falcons have a semi-pronounced home-road split, they are 5-1 under Mike Smith in outdoor games when the kickoff temperature was below 45 degrees (courtesy Pro Football Reference's Boxscore Finder).

And that would be last year's loss to Matt Flynn

pbmax
12-06-2014, 02:34 PM
Injury report (practice participation is an estimation)

Out – ILB Jamari Lattimore (did not participate, ankle), DL Luther Robinson (DNP, calf).

Questionable – CB Sam Shields (DNP, concussion).

Probable – DL Josh Boyd (limited, knee), DL Mike Daniels (limited, back), G T.J. Lang (limited, ankle), OLB Nick Perry (limited, shoulder), G Josh Sitton (limited, toe), OL Lane Taylor (full, probable).

On Sam Shields:

Sam Shields is obviously going through the protocol. The medical staff has told me he still has a chance to play. He'll be given the opportunity to play in the game if everything goes right.

pbmax
12-06-2014, 09:36 PM
Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod · 10h 10 hours ago
MM on Perry: I think he'll be ready for me. Good week of practice. I think the extra day will help him. Clearly better this week

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod · 10h 10 hours ago
MM: Luther Robinson hurt his calf in practice. Did scans yesterday. Don't have a time frame

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod · 10h 10 hours ago
MM on Shields: Sam Shields is obviously going through the protocol. Medical staff told me he still has a chance to play

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod · 10h 10 hours ago
MM on Lattimore possibly going to IR: I don't think we're there

woodbuck27
12-06-2014, 10:00 PM
reincarnated!

http://prod.static.seahawks.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/imported/SEA/photos/players/playercard/2010/Jones-Julius.jpg

Yes I stand corrected:

Atlanta WR Julio Jones not Julius Jones.

smuggler
12-07-2014, 12:08 AM
Weather for this game is nearly identical to the Pats game. The Patriots these are not. Pack by three scores.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 12:44 AM
Packers young players picking up the slack. Notice, however, that the much derided 2012 draft class (Perry, Hayward, Daniels) has as many full time contributors as the more heralded 13 class (Lacy, Bach, Hyde, and Jones part-time probably breaks the tie). 2014 has 4 and 2011 has 2.

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&id=18051&is_corp=1

But more fun is now we know why Lawrence Guy found himself on the street after his second year.


No knuckleheads
Where those young guys are at right now is further toward maturity than many rookies who’ve come through the locker room in recent years. There’s an oft-told story from a few years ago when a major snowstorm hit the Green Bay metroplex and McCarthy dispatched staffers to pick up players who were unaccustomed to driving in snow. When a team representative contacted one young player on his cell phone that morning to offer door-to-door service to Lambeau Field for meetings and practice that day, the player sheepishly had to admit that he wasn’t at home – he was in the dorm room of a female UW-Green Bay student.

KYPack
12-07-2014, 08:19 AM
Packers young players picking up the slack. Notice, however, that the much derided 2012 draft class (Perry, Hayward, Daniels) has as many full time contributors as the more heralded 13 class (Lacy, Bach, Hyde, and Jones part-time probably breaks the tie). 2014 has 4 and 2011 has 2.

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&id=18051&is_corp=1

But more fun is now we know why Lawrence Guy found himself on the street after his second year.

That ain't the first time that's happened in Packer football, it won't be the last.

Joemailman
12-07-2014, 08:24 AM
That ain't the first time that's happened in Packer football, it won't be the last.

Sounds like something Hornung might have done, although somehow I doubt Lombardi sent staffers to pick up the players because it was snowing.

KYPack
12-07-2014, 08:29 AM
Sounds like something Hornung might have done, although somehow I doubt Lombardi sent staffers to pick up the players because it was snowing.

In Paul's day, the girl would've driven the Horn to practice on an Artic Cat.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 08:40 AM
In Paul's day, the girl would've driven the Horn to practice on an Artic Cat.

That is class, style and team focused. And people ask how the Packers have survived this long in Green Bay.

Its the service.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 09:04 AM
In Paul's day, the girl would've driven the Horn to practice on an Artic Cat.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUJ38RifKRXqypVhkwr8WvOHdRR3P7A 9CZWsAEqMYQFGngs_SI

Paul Hornung Ice Fishing...Partying ! Not paying any attention to the time.


Woman in attendance volunteering to get Paul to the Green Bay Packer facility for a practice..

" Paul ? ......... Paul ?? ................................ Paul ?!! "

Tyrion Lannister
12-07-2014, 02:21 PM
Do I need to get my eyes checked, or am I seeing boobies? lol

mraynrand
12-07-2014, 10:02 PM
Yes I stand corrected:

Atlanta WR Julio Jones not Julius Jones.

Think if he played for the Bengals: Orange Julius

mraynrand
12-07-2014, 10:03 PM
ease up on the porn there Woodcock.

mraynrand
12-07-2014, 10:04 PM
the player sheepishly had to admit that he wasn’t at home – he was in the dorm room of a female UW-Green Bay student.

When the defense scores, you have a better chance of winning.*












*unless you are Cleveland, of course.

gbgary
12-08-2014, 06:55 AM
don't take them lightly. they've a lot of close, last minute, losses.

woodbuck27
12-08-2014, 07:02 AM
ease up on the porn there Woodcock.

porn !?

Ohh dear !

My eyesight...need to get my eyes checked I guess.

woodbuck27
12-08-2014, 07:17 AM
Atlanta Falcons to watch in tonight's MNF game :

QB Matt Ryan

Ryan plays much better at home, and in the frigid Lambeau Field he could struggle to produce.

RB Steven Jackson

Steven Jackson has scored a rushing touchdown in three of his last five games. He rushed for 101 yards last week against one of the league's toughest run defenses. Steven Jackson has been productive on MNF. He hopes to join LaDainian Tomlinson, Emmitt Smith and John Riggins as the only players in NFL history with a rushing touchdown in six straight games on Monday night.

WR Julio Jones

Jones has now scored in two straight games and had 10 receptions for 189 yards and a score last week. Julio Jones is a favourite target for Matt Ryan and has 11, 11, 13 and 12 targets in his last four games. If Roddy White can't suit up expect more of the same from the very talented Julio Jones. The Packers' secondary has been soft Vs the pass.

WR Roddy White

Roddy White has been out with an ankle injury yet he practiced on Saturday in a limited role and is listed as questionable for this game. If White isn't available or limited watch out for Harry Douglas who had 116 yards last week.

GO PACK GO !

denverYooper
12-08-2014, 07:51 AM
I don't know if I'd say the Packers secondary has been soft against the pass... they're 6th in the league in passer rating against. That's pretty decent.

woodbuck27
12-08-2014, 09:49 AM
I don't know if I'd say the Packers secondary has been soft against the pass... they're 6th in the league in passer rating against. That's pretty decent.

I stand down on the Packers and 'soft' against the pass. In a relative sense more than half the teams are 'in fact' softer.

My source has them Ranked 14th denverYooper.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

Guiness
12-08-2014, 11:26 AM
I don't know if I'd say the Packers secondary has been soft against the pass... they're 6th in the league in passer rating against. That's pretty decent.


I stand down on the Packers and 'soft' against the pass. In a relative sense more than half the teams are 'in fact' softer.

My source has them Ranked 14th denverYooper.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

Lies, damn lies and statistics, right?

I'd say I'm happy with the Packers pass D. IMO they have 4 starting caliber CBs on the roster in Williams, Shields, Hayward and House, not too many teams in the league can say that, the announcers were talking last night about both the Charger and Patriots having to use safeties to cover slot receivers. Even the TE position, which seems to always be an issue, hasn't burned them that badly this year despite playing against both NO and NE. Sure, both of those TEs got touchdowns, but they didn't rip the D all day long.

Fritz
12-08-2014, 01:47 PM
That is class, style and team focused. And people ask how the Packers have survived this long in Green Bay.

Its the service.


And who doesn't like to be serviced?

red
12-08-2014, 02:28 PM
Correct me if im wrong, but i think i see a nipple


http://youtu.be/UhIMV3lu6Qg