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Tyrion Lannister
12-04-2014, 05:03 PM
If our beloved Packers don't take care of business, we may find ourselves rooting for "da" Bears, especially when they play "the" Lions.

Personally, I've always had a soft spot for Jay-C (except when he goes against my beloved Packers, of course), mainly because I've always had a soft spot for the downtroddens.

Looks like fans of the Balding Eagles, the Seagulls, the Gold Diggers, the Sparrows, the Kittens, and even The Shadow will be cheering for da Bears tonight.

Bears down!

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 05:06 PM
Is this a TRAP game for the Dallas Cowboys?

IMO it shouldn't be.

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 05:11 PM
I'm shocked Mike Ditka picks:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwO37uAHxaskG5xSUSEUQ80RTWV90zk vFzjP1ETkmHAba__SJ47Q

It's da Bears .... schmuck !


OK Mike.....That's it then.

Tyrion Lannister
12-04-2014, 05:16 PM
Is this a TRAP game for the Dallas Cowboys?

IMO it shouldn't be.

Could be. lol

Here's a bear trap:

http://static.squarespace.com/static/5176fdb5e4b083b631f31303/t/51bb7e09e4b060dde410eacf/1371241994361/bigstock-Bear-Trap-38159869-e1370296224125.jpg

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 05:48 PM
http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/dallas-cowboys/teamvsteam?opp=6

History - Dallas Cowboys Vs Chicago Bears.

Tyrion Lannister
12-04-2014, 05:52 PM
http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/dallas-cowboys/teamvsteam?opp=6

History - Dallas Cowboys Vs Chicago Bears.

Nice find. Bears are on a 3 games win streak against the Cowboys.

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 05:54 PM
NFL on ESPN


Bears last 3 games vs Cowboys:

*2013 win 45-28

*2012 win 34-18

*2010 win 27-20

Brad Biggs
"
As @SeifertESPN reported, Hochuli's crew was averaging 18 penalites per game (2nd most in NFL) entering last week espn.go.com/blog/nflnation…"

** The Jay Cutler Factor in 2014.

NFL on ESPN

Jay Cutler throwing the ball fewer than 5 yards: 79.3 completion %

Jay Cutler throwing the ball further than 5 yards: 49.5 completion %

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 07:02 PM
The Dallas Cowboys are undefeated on the road THIS SEASON.


The History:

Tony Romo is currently 2-5 with a 60 percent completion rate in games played under 40 degrees.


Is December the real Dallas Cowboys killer?

The long-term implications of dropping one to the Bears would almost certainly derail the Boys chances of reaching the postseason.

denverYooper
12-04-2014, 08:54 PM
Fantasy Douche ‏@FantasyDouche 3h3 hours ago
Here's another revolutionary data viz I've been working on for the Sloan Conference

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4DNp4CCUAA0K77.png

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 09:40 PM
It's now 35-7 Cowboys nearing the end of the 3rd Qtr.

I think the mercy rule should come into effect and Marc Trestman FIRED!

That man looks likes the saddest person on the planet.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/12/04/marc-trestman-is-boers-bernsteins-2014-quote-of-the-year-winner/

Marc Trestman Is Boers & Bernstein’s 2014 Quote Of The Year Winner

December 4, 2014 1:37 PM

“I haven’t heard any of that. I didn’t hear all of it. I heard a lot about most of it, but what I did hear, I did not hear any of that.” Marc Trestman

Joemailman
12-04-2014, 09:43 PM
I have 31.5 points from DeMarco Murray so far. :glug:

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 09:51 PM
Bears score a TD !

Score 35 Boys - 13 Bears.

The extra point attempt was blocked. LOL.

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 10:17 PM
Well the Bears score again and it's a three possession game but wait....

yes the Bears get the ball right back on the 'onside' KO. The Bears work the ball down to the Dallas 10 yard line....and the score again.

Dallas 38 - Chicago 28 ... 'a Ten Point game' and 6:09 remains in the 4th Qtr.

Yaa never know.

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 10:33 PM
You can count on it.

Cutler gets picked.

Dallas will win this road game and be the only team in the NFL undefeated (6-0) on the road.

woodbuck27
12-04-2014, 11:24 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000438998/article/cowboys-blast-bears-behind-murrays-monster-night

Cowboys blast Bears behind Murray's monster night

By Gregg Rosenthal ... Around The NFL Editor

Published: Dec. 4, 2014 at 11:40 p.m. ... Updated: Dec. 4, 2014 at 11:59 p.m.

RE: The Chicago Bears

" This is the worst five-win team in the league. It's depressing they have another primetime game.

7. This was such a typical Jay Cutler game. You can't point to terrible play, but the Bears offense just doesn't add up to the sum of their parts until it's too late. The Bears scored three touchdowns in the fourth quarter after the score was 35-7. Ultimately, Cutler, Martellus Bennett, and Alshon Jeffery put up an epic garbage time performance that only helped their fantasy owners."

Tyrion Lannister
12-05-2014, 06:50 AM
Da Bears suck.

woodbuck27
12-05-2014, 07:26 AM
http://www.chatsports.com/chicago-bears/a/The-Bears-Can-Dump-Jay-Cutlers-Contract-After-The-Season-10-16-697

The Bears Can Dump Jay Cutler's Contract After The Season


By: Brian Rauf | Nov 10, 2014

Comment woodbuck27:

It looks to me like Marc Trestman is all but done in Chicago. It seems prudent to me that the Bears look to replace Jay Cutler as well.

The Bears have to re-build. Top to bottom and on both sides of the ball (especially on 'D') the team needs work.

Superb Players like RB Matt Forte WR Alshon Jeffrey are wasted with their current offense. Why?

The main cog or QB Jay Cutler seems to be on some other planet a lot of the time.

Fritz
12-05-2014, 10:37 AM
The Bears continue to suck.

I am fervently rooting for a Lions' upset at the hands of Lovie's lowly Bucs, but that is unlikely. More than that, I am rooting for a Packer win. And a Seattle loss.

George Cumby
12-07-2014, 10:55 AM
So, we're Eagles, Chiefs, Raiders and TB fans today, eh?

pbmax
12-07-2014, 11:17 AM
So, we're Eagles, Chiefs, Raiders and TB fans today, eh?

Seattle-Philly game is weird in that objectively, Philly losing gives the Packers some breathing room for home field. But no one wants Seattle close enough to risk a road playoff game there and they own the tiebreaker with the Pack.

Best of worlds Arizona to stay ahead of Hawks but loses an in conference game in coming weeks. Ideally, they lose to 49ers and beat the Hawks. But that is really trying to thread a needle.

Joemailman
12-07-2014, 11:25 AM
Seattle-Philly game is weird in that objectively, Philly losing gives the Packers some breathing room for home field. But no one wants Seattle close enough to risk a road playoff game there and they own the tiebreaker with the Pack.

Best of worlds Arizona to stay ahead of Hawks but loses an in conference game in coming weeks. Ideally, they lose to 49ers and beat the Hawks. But that is really trying to thread a needle.

Bruce Arians is a hell of a coach, but I can't see them holding off Seattle. They're facing 4 tough defenses without their starting QB. Packers may need to run the table to get the #1 seed.

digitaldean
12-07-2014, 11:37 AM
Cardinals may have issues rest of the way. Ellington has a hip pointer and a sports hernia. He may be headed to IR (per PFT). Add to that Stanton's inconsistent play, that D can't do everything for them.

I want Seattle to lose out. If they win today, that could be a bad omen because they could end up with home field advantage again given wins over GB and possibly Philly.

Niners have at OAK, at SEA, SD and AZ. Seachickens have @PHI, SF, @AZ, STL. AZ could fold because I don't see them beating either SF or SEA the way that offense has been. SF, IMO, would go 2-2 (3-1 at best), where SEA could go 3-1 (possibly 4-0). AZ will probably go 2-2 at best (more than likely getting swept by SEA)

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 11:42 AM
Cardinals may have issues rest of the way. Ellington has a hip pointer and a sports hernia. He may be headed to IR (per PFT). Add to that Stanton's inconsistent play, that D can't do everything for them.

I want Seattle to lose out. If they win today, that could be a bad omen because they could end up with home field advantage again given wins over GB and possibly Philly.

Niners have at OAK, at SEA, SD and AZ. Seachickens have @PHI, SF, @AZ, STL. AZ could fold because I don't see them beating either SF or SEA the way that offense has been. SF, IMO, would go 2-2 (3-1 at best), where SEA could go 3-1 (possibly 4-0). AZ will probably go 2-2 at best (more than likely getting swept by SEA)

Then it's easy to see we need to go '4' more wins.

Plan for and play every game like it's playoff's, 'sudden death'.

Pugger
12-07-2014, 12:15 PM
Our best chance for Seattle to lose a game is probably today in Philly. We presently have a one game lead on Seattle so if they stumble today we can still lose a game this season and still end up with the #1 seed in the NFC if we end up with a tie with the Eagles.

digitaldean
12-07-2014, 12:23 PM
Agree, Woody. The good thing about this is that they have keep pushing and playing for something instead of resting players. Not that that's the worst thing, but I think it keeps the Packers sharper.

Take care of their own business, like the media cliches go, and the Packers will have a first round bye.

digitaldean
12-07-2014, 12:27 PM
After a pick six by Vikes, Jets have retaken lead. WOW, Carolina already up by 10 on Saints at Superdome.

digitaldean
12-07-2014, 12:36 PM
Saints getting killed by Carolina. Never thought that Saints would be a turnover machine vs. Carolina. Not out of the 1st yet and they have a fumble and an INT.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 12:55 PM
Saints getting killed by Carolina. Never thought that Saints would be a turnover machine vs. Carolina. Not out of the 1st yet and they have a fumble and an INT.

That defense doing it to Brees makes no sense. They getting a lot of pressure?

pbmax
12-07-2014, 01:04 PM
The Immortal Charles Johnson has a long TD in Vikes game.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 01:20 PM
If things haven't changed since the 70s, losing to the Bengals sets off tornado sirens in Pittsburgh. People should prepare and get to the basement.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 02:52 PM
Saints are just mailing it in. Thanks schedule makers.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 02:58 PM
Jay Gruden's hand picked QB has led them to a shutout today. At some point, perhaps it will occur to someone in Washington that the problem is either ALL the QBs or the offense just stinks out loud at times.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 03:21 PM
Within the next year Bretsky will be clamoring for THIS GUY™ to be the next Packers Head Coach.

Jay Gruden on team/player motivation: "If I have to motivate a pro football player to play football, we need to get new pro football players"

I can't wait for the Cowboys or Lions to hire him.

denverYooper
12-07-2014, 03:45 PM
Joe Fortenbaugh ‏@JoeFortenbaugh 1m1 minute ago
In just 7 snaps, Kaepernick has already been credited with: INT, Sack, Delay of Game penalty, incompletion, loss of 7 on a run.

What does the rest of the league know?

Of course, the 49ers line is all beat to hell this year.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 03:55 PM
Joe Fortenbaugh ‏@JoeFortenbaugh 1m1 minute ago
In just 7 snaps, Kaepernick has already been credited with: INT, Sack, Delay of Game penalty, incompletion, loss of 7 on a run.

What does the rest of the league know?

Of course, the 49ers line is all beat to hell this year.

The answer is obviously the 3-3.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 04:12 PM
Within the next year Bretsky will be clamoring for THIS GUY™ to be the next Packers Head Coach.

Jay Gruden on team/player motivation: "If I have to motivate a pro football player to play football, we need to get new pro football players"

I can't wait for the Cowboys or Lions to hire him.

Doesn't Jay Gruden need to go back to coaching school? Dan Snyder can balance it all on Hard Luck.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 04:17 PM
San Fran doing it's best to make their game @ Oakland close:

Oakland leads 10-7 about 5 minutes into the 2nd Qtr.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 04:19 PM
The Immortal Charles Johnson has a long TD in Vikes game.

Minny's WR Charles Johnson had another solid day. 4 receptions for 103 yards and 1 TD.


The GIANTS WR O'Dell Beckham is putting a stamp on the Offensive Rookie Of The Year Award.

Today he was again solid. 11 catch's for 130 yards an 11.8 Y/c and 1 TD.

denverYooper
12-07-2014, 04:20 PM
I'm pretty glad that the Bills-Broncos game is on and not the Eagles/Seattle game...

pbmax
12-07-2014, 04:20 PM
Are their degrees of dislocated for a knee?

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 1m1 minute ago
MRI on Monday for Bucs DT Gerald McCoy, who dislocated knee but returned to play http://bit.ly/1CWkhMI

Fritz
12-07-2014, 04:20 PM
Joe Fortenbaugh ‏@JoeFortenbaugh 1m1 minute ago
In just 7 snaps, Kaepernick has already been credited with: INT, Sack, Delay of Game penalty, incompletion, loss of 7 on a run.

What does the rest of the league know?

Of course, the 49ers line is all beat to hell this year.

The rest of the league knows the 49ers' line is all beat to hell this year.

And the Lions won big. Ugh. Fans' heads swelling exponentially here.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 04:21 PM
I'm pretty glad that the Bills-Broncos game is on and not the Eagles/Seattle game...

Given your geography, you would need to move a fair distance west to avoid that.

Joemailman
12-07-2014, 04:34 PM
Seattle's offense is dead if Russell Wilson ever suffers any sort of leg injury that prevents him from running. Right now I'd probably spy him with with a safety.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 04:39 PM
It's funny how the cream rises to the top as road dogs came through.

Baltimore (over Miami at Home) and Pittsburgh (over Cincy at Home) both won huge games today.

denverYooper
12-07-2014, 04:48 PM
Aaron Schatz ‏@FO_ASchatz 1m1 minute ago
The problem with the PHI offense seems to be lack of mid-range pass routes. Screens, crosses, deep stuff. Nothing 15 yards.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 04:57 PM
I watched this game:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014120700/2014/REG14/steelers@bengals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap30 00000440119&tab=recap

Ben Roethlisberger and Le'Veon Bell were outstanding today.

pittstang5
12-07-2014, 05:16 PM
So who do we want to win - Seattle or Philly?

I hate both with a passion.

Teamcheez1
12-07-2014, 05:18 PM
So who do we want to win - Seattle or Philly?

I hate both with a passion.

PHI. Any scenario that reduces or complicates the Seahawks or 49er's playoff chances is good for the Packers.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 05:27 PM
Holy Cow !

San Fran is down to the Oakland 2 yard line and it's 4th and goal and the score is tied @ 10.

Jiim Harbaugh elects to kick a FG against a one win team.

The Result:

FG P.Dawson 20 yd. Field Goal Drive: 9 plays, 44 yards in 4:21

The SCORE: San Fan 13 - Oakland 10.

That's just a shameful chicken shit decision on Jim Harbaugh's part.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 05:41 PM
Holy Cow !

San Fran is down to the Oakland 2 yard line and it's 4th and goal and the score is tied @ 10.

Jiim Harbaugh elects to kick a FG against a one win team.

The Result:

FG P.Dawson 20 yd. Field Goal Drive: 9 plays, 44 yards in 4:21

The SCORE: San Fan 13 - Oakland 10.

That's just a shameful chicken shit decision on Jim Harbaugh's part.

So on the next series Oakland pushes it down field for a TD and a 17-13 lead.

TD M.Reece 9 yd. pass from D.Carr (S.Janikowski kick is good) Drive: 8 plays, 80 yards in 4:25


Oakland 17 - San Fran 13

LOL. :-) X 10.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 05:50 PM
So on the next series Oakland pushes it down field for a TD and a 17-13 lead.

TD M.Reece 9 yd. pass from D.Carr (S.Janikowski kick is good) Drive: 8 plays, 80 yards in 4:25


Oakland 17 - San Fran 13

LOL. :-) X 10.

Holy Crap.

It sure looks like San Fran's season is over.

Oakland should score again soon. Their inside the San Fran 5 yard line.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 05:54 PM
Holy Crap.

It sure looks like San Fran's season is over.

Oakland should score again soon. Their inside the San Fran 5 yard line.

There it is:

Last Play - 10:43 Q4

(Shotgun) D.Carr pass short left to M.Rivera for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

The Extra Point was good.

OAKLAND 24 - san fran 13


FIRE Jim Harbaugh right after the game.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 06:01 PM
PHI. Any scenario that reduces or complicates the Seahawks or 49er's playoff chances is good for the Packers.

Not really going their way. First and only lead was off fumbled punt snap that lead to a TD. Only one other score into 3rd Q.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 06:04 PM
Cardinals just lost Cromartie to a leg injury.

King Friday
12-07-2014, 06:08 PM
Hope Arizona can hang on for the win...anything that helps keep the playoffs from going thru Seattle is what I'm cheering for.

pbmax
12-07-2014, 06:10 PM
Hope Arizona can hang on for the win...anything that helps keep the playoffs from going thru Seattle is what I'm cheering for.

That train is going to be hard to stop. Need to stay one game ahead of Seahawks.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 06:11 PM
Last Play of the next San Fran Series ended thuis way:

05:07 Q4

P.Dawson 47 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Left, Center-K.Nelson, Holder-A.Lee

OAKLAND 24 - san fran 13

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Hope Arizona can hang on for the win...anything that helps keep the playoffs from going thru Seattle is what I'm cheering for.

You get your wish.

Alex Smith just threw 3 incomplete pass's and KC turned the ball over on downs.

It's be Arizona 17 - KC 14.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 06:25 PM
It will soon be san fran 13 - OAKLAND 27

FIRE Jim Harbaugh before he gets off the field.

Nope their CRAZY out thee in California. It was 4th and 6 on the San Fran 6 yard line and David Carr ran the ball?

He was SACKED back another 11 yards or so.

Last Play - 00:17 Q4

(:17) (Shotgun) C.Kaepernick SACKED at SF 1 for -9 yards (K.Mack).

So the score remains OAKLAND 24 - san fran 13.

What a mess San Fran is in.

denverYooper
12-07-2014, 07:00 PM
That train is going to be hard to stop. Need to stay one game ahead of Seahawks.

This is going to be how it has to be, looks like. Seahawks just crushed the Eagles in Philly. The Packers probably need to win out to keep the rematch in Lambeau.

Tyrion Lannister
12-07-2014, 07:03 PM
It will soon be san fran 13 - OAKLAND 27

FIRE Jim Harbaugh before he gets off the field.

Nope their CRAZY out thee in California. It was 4th and 6 on the San Fran 6 yard line and David Carr ran the ball?

He was SACKED back another 11 yards or so.


I think the Raiders were showing mercy by having Carr take the sack.

Saw the Oakland coach got hit with a Gatorade shower. I was like, WTF? Then I realized that in a lost season, that game was the Raiders' Super Bowl.

denverYooper
12-07-2014, 07:04 PM
Bart Hubbuch ‏@BartHubbuch 5m5 minutes ago
Seahawks DL Michael Bennett on what he saw from Sanchez: "The same thing everyone else saw -- not much."

Joemailman
12-07-2014, 08:04 PM
Talk about in your face...The Rams have 6 players they acquired as a result of the RGIII trade. The Rams sent those 6 players out to midfield for the coin toss before their game with the Redskins.

Rastak
12-07-2014, 08:12 PM
Talk about in your face...The Rams have 6 players they acquired as a result of the RGIII trade. The Rams sent those 6 players out to midfield for the coin toss before their game with the Redskins.

You gotta be shittin me....they did that?

Joemailman
12-07-2014, 08:15 PM
You gotta be shittin me....they did that?

Here's the link. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000440256/article/jeff-fisher-trolls-redskins-during-opening-coin-toss

pbmax
12-07-2014, 08:23 PM
Fisher is the best coach ever to continuously go 8-8. Fantastic.

Pugger
12-07-2014, 08:25 PM
Joe Fortenbaugh ‏@JoeFortenbaugh 1m1 minute ago
In just 7 snaps, Kaepernick has already been credited with: INT, Sack, Delay of Game penalty, incompletion, loss of 7 on a run.

What does the rest of the league know?

Of course, the 49ers line is all beat to hell this year.

Breaks my heart. :lol: I'm so glad they lost to the lowly Oakland Raiders! Woody even got a dagger INT in that game. :cool:

Pugger
12-07-2014, 08:26 PM
The rest of the league knows the 49ers' line is all beat to hell this year.

And the Lions won big. Ugh. Fans' heads swelling exponentially here.

I hope someone reminds them who they just beat. :lol: We get all of Tampa's games down here and that team is dreadful.

Pugger
12-07-2014, 08:29 PM
Not really going their way. First and only lead was off fumbled punt snap that lead to a TD. Only one other score into 3rd Q.

Philly's offense looks terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if the 'girls win that division in the end.

Pugger
12-07-2014, 08:31 PM
Bart Hubbuch ‏@BartHubbuch 5m5 minutes ago
Seahawks DL Michael Bennett on what he saw from Sanchez: "The same thing everyone else saw -- not much."

:lol: That's sad and funny as hell at the same time.

Pugger
12-07-2014, 08:32 PM
Talk about in your face...The Rams have 6 players they acquired as a result of the RGIII trade. The Rams sent those 6 players out to midfield for the coin toss before their game with the Redskins.

Zing!!! :lol:

Rastak
12-07-2014, 08:48 PM
Here's the link. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000440256/article/jeff-fisher-trolls-redskins-during-opening-coin-toss


Wow, what a rub the salt in the wound low class shit move. I am no Washington Racists fan but jesus h christ.....that's cold.

smuggler
12-07-2014, 08:50 PM
I don't think the Rams will be getting many offers from the Redskins in the future.

King Friday
12-07-2014, 09:26 PM
Wow, what a rub the salt in the wound low class shit move. I am no Washington Racists fan but jesus h christ.....that's cold.

Couldn't have happened toward a more pathetic, out of touch, and classless management group. It may be cold, but it won't make Snyder even think twice about his inept approach to managing a professional football franchise.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 09:33 PM
I think the Raiders were showing mercy by having Carr take the sack.

Saw the Oakland coach got hit with a Gatorade shower. I was like, WTF? Then I realized that in a lost season, that game was the Raiders' Super Bowl.

OK that explains it.

If so that was pretty classy.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 09:35 PM
Talk about in your face...The Rams have 6 players they acquired as a result of the RGIII trade. The Rams sent those 6 players out to midfield for the coin toss before their game with the Redskins.

Really.

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 09:39 PM
Here's the link. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000440256/article/jeff-fisher-trolls-redskins-during-opening-coin-toss

BIG FINE !?

Joemailman
12-07-2014, 09:49 PM
BIG FINE !?

For what?

woodbuck27
12-07-2014, 09:56 PM
For what?

Let's simply wait and see.

Joemailman
12-07-2014, 09:58 PM
Let's simply wait and see.

I don't think the league will do anything. Teams can send out whoever they want for the coin flip.

mraynrand
12-07-2014, 10:07 PM
...Washington Racists ....

lame

woodbuck27
12-08-2014, 10:07 AM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=400554384

" The Titans' loss became even more painful with rookie quarterback Zach Mettenberger hurting his sprained right shoulder in the fourth quarter, and he did not return. Mettenberger said his shoulder hurt after the game, and he will have an MRI exam Monday. "

It's being reported on NFL Access that Zach Mettenberger will likely end up on IR and his season is over.

smuggler
12-08-2014, 02:09 PM
Derek Carr sure looks like a damn good pick next to guys like Mettenberger...