Official Packers visit the *other* tundra, Ralph Wilson Stadium game day thread for Dec 13th

[esoxx]

Holy shit corner blitz and no cover.

Absolute blown assignment!!!

[pbmax]

Ha Ha not having a good game.

[smuggler]

25 missed tackles.

[ThunderDan]

Tipped by peppers.

[pittstang5]

Bills just chipping away. We need to score some fucking Points

[woodbuck27]

Big STOP on a third down play.

[pbmax]

How bad is Packer D playing in second half? Best player might be Brad Jones.

[woodbuck27]

OK Boys are you awake yet ?

[ThunderDan]

That punt return is looking bigger and bigger.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I wouldn't mind a close game if both teams were playing well and checking each other. This is just a crapfest

[woodbuck27]

How bad is Packer D playing in second half? Best player might be Brad Jones.

The Packer secondary ....their heads go on swivels.

[pbmax]

Packers have had fewer penalties but the one's they have had are killers.

[pbmax]

RUN THE BALL!

[pittstang5]

it was only a matter of time. This game is over

[MadScientist]

And now a pick. WTF with this game. How shitty can it get.

[woodbuck27]

The world is coming to an end.....Aaron Rodgers is picked off !

[Packers4Glory]

Good bye super bowl hopes. No HFA. No SB

[pittstang5]

Just gave them 3 at least, but I think the get 7

[Harlan Huckleby]

jordy wide open

[ThunderDan]

The Packer secondary ....their heads go on swivels.

11/21 125 yards 1 int for Orton today.

[pbmax]

Lost track of the single safety because he expected him to go with Nelson. Nelson, was then wide open.

[esoxx]

And Nelson was wide open!

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Just a bad throw again...

[woodbuck27]

it was only a matter of time. This game is over

Thye Pack is 'only' down six points.It's a one possession game.

We'll be OK. The Bills don't score a lot of points.

[pbmax]

Game ain't over. D still playing hard.

[Harlan Huckleby]

D - Fence!

[smuggler]

Fire McCarthy

[pbmax]

Great call! Bad coverage call that had Jones with receiver in short zone

[Harlan Huckleby]

"Time for offense to step up" - announcer

[pbmax]

Out of FG position. Like butter.

[Harlan Huckleby]

announcer speechless after sack

[ThunderDan]

Punt time baby!

[MadScientist]

Nice stepping up by the defense.

[pbmax]

Mic KAY a Hyde again!

[MadScientist]

announcer speechless after sack

If only he would stay that way.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Worst announcers ever!

[woodbuck27]

If Rodgers can pass for 11 more yards he's up over 100 yards on the day.

He's 9/28 for 90 Yards and 0 TD and now 1 Pick.

Look out...it's time.

[esoxx]

Thye Pack is 'only' down six points.It's a one possession game.

We'll be OK. The Bills don't score a lot of points.

And a huge factor to keep in mind....Packers will have the wind at their backs in the 4th quarter.

[smuggler]

Incoming safety.

[pittstang5]

we're screwed...again

[Harlan Huckleby]

We'll be OK. The Bills don't score a lot of points.

16 could be enough in this crapfest

[Packgator]

Everyone expected this to be a tough game for the Packers. Why is anyone surprised when it turns out to be a tough game? This one is going down to the wire.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Can this get any worse?

[MadScientist]

What the god damn fuck is going on.

[Harlan Huckleby]

its one of those days

[Iron Mike]

Oh, Christ....Nelson!!!!?!

[Rastak]

The look on McCarthy's face was priceless.

[esoxx]

Nelson throwing the game.

The fix is in, as I said earlier.

[pbmax]

That was all Nelson. Was looking at safety.

[pittstang5]

That ladies and gentleman is why they will not win. Rodgers off and Receivers not catching a perfect ball!

Unbelievable!!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Everyone expected this to be a tough game for the Packers. Why is anyone surprised when it turns out to be a tough game? This one is going down to the wire.

this is only close because of epic bad play by pack attack

[woodbuck27]

If Rodgers can pass for 11 more yards he's up over 100 yards on the day.

He's 9/28 for 90 Yards and 0 TD and now 1 Pick.

Look out...it's time.

and then Jordy Nelson miss's a gift again.His second drop and the Packers have FIVE DROPS today !!!!!

[ThunderDan]

Wow, just not our game.

Great effort by Q.

[pbmax]

The look on McCarthy's face was priceless.

Except they were showing Alex Van Pelt I think.

[smuggler]

Wow. Nelson drops the 90+ yard TD

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I'm speechless...

[pittstang5]

Nelson throwing the game.

The fix is in, as I said earlier.

Really starting to think that. That was the break this team needed. Blew it

[woodbuck27]

Nelson throwing the game.

The fix is in, as I said earlier.

Fucking NFL !!!

[MadScientist]

Everyone expected this to be a tough game for the Packers. Why is anyone surprised when it turns out to be a tough game? This one is going down to the wire.

Because it is tough because the receivers don't look like they are in the same playbook. Drops, not looking back, etc.

[pbmax]

That was a huge first down. Avoided letdown and terrible field position switch after the INT continuing.

[red]

These asshole better be on the practice field tomorrow

No day off after this shit

[Rastak]

Except they were showing Alex Van Pelt I think.

Is he fat guy too?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Maybe lights fire under Nelson?

[Rastak]

That was a huge first down. Avoided letdown and terrible field position switch after the INT continuing.

I agree - that would have been real good Bills field position.

[TravisWilliams23]

Shades of James Jones a few years ago.

[pbmax]

Is he fat guy too?

Think so. FOX showed wrong guy on sideline for 5 seconds or more.

[smuggler]

I have never seen the team play this poorly. They don't even look like an NFL team, really, at least the offense.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Q should have that. what a day.

[pittstang5]

how is that not PI

[pbmax]

Another big first.

[Harlan Huckleby]

These asshole better be on the practice field tomorrow

No day off after this shit

wind sprints after practice.

[ThunderDan]

Cobb on the run.

[Rutnstrut]

The Bills are fired up and playing inspired, the Packers just seem flat and listless.

[King Friday]

About time they did SOMETHING with Cobb.

[Harlan Huckleby]

where is Starks?

[pbmax]

this play sequence from the Patriots game. Cobb on LB from backfield

[Harlan Huckleby]

The PAcker offense seems to have arrived

[ThunderDan]

That was perfect. Motion Cobb out of backfield. Ono on one verses LB.

[pbmax]

Playing to ISO Cobb on linebacker.

[King Friday]

Cobb can do this shit all day..this should've been happening from play #1.

[esoxx]

I have never seen the team play this poorly. They don't even look like an NFL team, really, at least the offense.

You must have missed the Detroit game.

[woodbuck27]

it's OK...just gut check time.

[Packgator]

this is only close because of epic bad play by pack attack

Yes. Playing bad is part of what makes it a tough game.

[King Friday]

LMAO...FINALLY figures out how to say Bulaga's name.

[ThunderDan]

Dpi there.

[pbmax]

DPI, tipped INT and Bulaga is OUT.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The PAcker offense seems to have arrived

this one is on me

[red]

How is that not PI

And there goes bulaga for the year

[pittstang5]

And that is your game. Fuck the time left. We get going, then stall or give it away. Football gods not with us today

[King Friday]

unreal. Packer receivers shouldn't get a paycheck this week.

[ThunderDan]

Wr tackled before ball got there.

[woodbuck27]

Dear Ohh DEAR and Aaron Rodgers is picked again.

Maybe we're really pulling for Minny later today in Detroit !?

This doesn't look right now.

Nawwwww .............. it's not over until it's over !

[pbmax]

unreal. Packer receivers shouldn't get a paycheck this week.

Pass was too high and too fast. Not all on WR.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay we have just entered a twilight zone andf time warped back to the 70s

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yes. Playing bad is part of what makes it a tough game.

I think Rodgers has had a lot of time to pass today. A passer rating of 27 seems unimaginable. I know this was predicted to be a close game, but not this inept.

[esoxx]

How is that not PI

And there goes bulaga for the year

I hope buttnfuck is happy with his pregame prediction of a major injury occurring.

[pittstang5]

Dagger....game over

[ThunderDan]

Boykins was the WR tackled at break for ball.

[woodbuck27]

Another Pick on Rodgers after a tip.

[pbmax]

Perry back in and he completely lost his edge drifting inside.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Get your tickets to Seattle

[smuggler]

You must have missed the Detroit game.

Watched the game. It had much more to do with the competition than this one.

[Rutnstrut]

Who the hell just tried to tackle Jackson by laying down in front of him?

[pittstang5]

Why did no one intercept that!!!!

[red]

Fucker had his arms pinned down

[Harlan Huckleby]

Bulaga walking without limp

[Packers4Glory]

Looked like a hold on the D on that pick

[pittstang5]

makeable FG, we're done

[pbmax]

Big FG attempt.

[Striker]

7 drops today.

[pbmax]

Missed FG is huge right now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ok, we got um where we want them.

uhhh, maybe not.

[pbmax]

Who plays RT? Lang?

Has a bad ankle.

[smuggler]

I can't believe this horse shit. Fucking fuck. Unbelieveable. Fucking bullshit.

[Harlan Huckleby]

7 drops today.

it seems like 70

[woodbuck27]

That Pick resulted in a Buffalo FG.

SCORE now is Bills 19 - Packers 10.

GO PACK GO !

The Buffalo 'D' is delivering.

[pittstang5]

Missed FG is huge right now.

That, but the punt return for the TD was even bigger.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Last field goal hurts...

[esoxx]

Watched the game. It had much more to do with the competition than this one.

Say what? The Bills have one of the best defenses in the league.

[Packgator]

Missed FG is huge right now.

That one makes it real tough.

[pittstang5]

can't even get it to the 20.

[King Friday]

Packer defense has played very well this game...too bad the offense has been completely inept. You could see this coming from a mile away...yet McCarthy apparently thought this game would go differently than all the others we've had against physical defensive fronts in the last 3+ years. Why he thought that, I'm not sure. Throwing the ball 50+ times isn't the answer.

[pbmax]

No one blocked 33.

[Packgator]

Last field goal hurts...

Yes. A score on this possession is a must.

[Rutnstrut]

Missed FG is huge right now.

As are the dropped/missed passes and the missed tackles. I can live with Rodgers having an off day, as it doesn't happen very often. But this shitty tackling is pathetic, even more pathetic is the fact that the GB coaching staff refuses to do anything about it.

[esoxx]

Bulaga walking without limp

Means nothing. He played in family night scrimmage after tearing ACL.

[King Friday]

As are the dropped/missed passes and the missed tackles. I can live with Rodgers having an off day, as it doesn't happen very often. But this shitty tackling is pathetic, even more pathetic is the fact that the GB coaching staff refuses to do anything about it.

And again...the defense has given up 12 points. So what are you complaining about? That should be more than enough for the Packers to win. This has nothing to do with missed tackles.

[pbmax]

That, but the punt return for the TD was even bigger.

Yep.

[pittstang5]

so who do we need to win/lose tonight. Need Vikings win, what else

[Rutnstrut]

Packer defense has played very well this game...too bad the offense has been completely inept. You could see this coming from a mile away...yet McCarthy apparently thought this game would go differently than all the others we've had against physical defensive fronts in the last 3+ years. Why he thought that, I'm not sure. Throwing the ball 50+ times isn't the answer.

You call over 20 missed tackles playing well? The score isn't a result of the Packer D playing good, it's a result of the Bills O being mediocre at best.

[pbmax]

Tretter is RT. Lang stays at Guard.

[pittstang5]

of course holding!!!

Fuck this game!!!

[pbmax]

Good grief.

[smuggler]

I stopped counting at 24, it's probably over 30 by now.

[Packgator]

so who do we need to win/lose tonight. Need Vikings win, what else

Need a score on this possession.

[pbmax]

M3 is livid.

[ThunderDan]

Hands I died the shoulders on that block?

[smuggler]

This game is fixed.

[pbmax]

Great play by Cobb but he almost went back to lose the first down.

[Harlan Huckleby]

hurry up

[pittstang5]

M3 is livid.

He should be, we're getting hosed

[King Friday]

The penalties are horrible today...many of then 2nd and short. Hell...just give up a 2 yd loss already.

[ThunderDan]

Facemask.

[pbmax]

The the ref a vampire or a plastic surgery enthusiast?

[King Friday]

These refs sure love to toss flags.

[Harlan Huckleby]

jeebus, a 6 yard pass at feet

[esoxx]

so who do we need to win/lose tonight. Need Vikings win, what else

Seattle needs to lose but playing the niners. 10 pt favorites would need a miracle.

[King Friday]

STEADY YOUR FEET RODGERS.

[Rastak]

The the ref a vampire or a plastic surgery enthusiast?


He may have the same shit I've had for a week....I sound like Lou Rawls....

[Harlan Huckleby]

late hit outta bounds

[pbmax]

That looked like a Harlem Globetrotters play

[pittstang5]

Seattle needs to lose but playing the niners. 10 pt favorites would need a miracle.

What about the Eagles game

[Harlan Huckleby]

team is running down playclock when they are down by two scores late in game

[pbmax]

Well they finally figured out the secret. Pass short to coverage by LB and safeties

[King Friday]

Packers have been moving the ball for the last quarter plus...if they can just stop killing themselves with errors.

[ThunderDan]

Or not called when tackled 3 yards out of bounds.

[Rutnstrut]

late hit outta bounds

That's what I thought as well, but they seem to be letting those go this year.

[pittstang5]

taking too much time

[pbmax]

Don;t be greedy. 4 down territory

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Need to start watching the clock.

[pittstang5]

Our receivers are getting mugged and no flags again

[pbmax]

Don;t be greedy. 4 down territory

Well sure just ignore me

[King Friday]

8 plays...4 min? Way too long per play.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Have they called a single DPI? Our guys have been getting mugged all day.

[Rastak]

Don;t be greedy. 4 down territory


You wouldn't have kicked it? Need 2 scores.....

[Harlan Huckleby]

Need to start watching the clock.

they were not hurrying at all, I don''t understand

[pbmax]

Well, until last two drives (INT and FG) I didn't think the offense could get two scores.

Feel slightly better about this now. Need D to get stop.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Defense needs a 3 and out or a turnover.

[Tony Oday]

Wtf...call the Packers on good blocks holding and they mmug our WR and nothing...

[King Friday]

Have they called a single DPI? Our guys have been getting mugged all day.

So start pushing them back.

[woodbuck27]

OK Let's stop em and get that TD !

Get the 'W' and the hell out of Buffalo with some skin.

[smuggler]

Now if Buffalo scores the game is over.

[Rutnstrut]

8 plays...4 min? Way too long per play.

There's been zero urgency all day, it's almost as if they don't believe they can lose.

[ThunderDan]

DB grabbed Cobb on third down don't know if it was catchable.

[pbmax]

You wouldn't have kicked it? Need 2 scores.....

I was thinking they were very close. What was the yardline?

[smuggler]

It was 3rd and 8 or so

[HarveyWallbangers]

Aren't hits away from the play like the ones on Matthews and Bulaga were illegal now? I thought they cleaned that up after the Sapp play, but maybe I just thought they should clean that up.

[esoxx]

What about the Eagles game

Want dallas as we have head to head tiebreaker on the eagles.

[pbmax]

You wouldn't have kicked it? Need 2 scores.....

16 yard line. Don't need to be that close for FG on next possession. I would have gone for it. Two plays for first.

[Rutnstrut]

Now is where this D will really kill them. They usually buckle at crunch time.

[King Friday]

I was thinking they were very close. What was the yardline?

It doesn't matter. You need 2 scores, including a FG.

[smuggler]

Unless Buffalo gets a FG here. In that case, you lose.

[Rastak]

I was thinking they were very close. What was the yardline?

Not sure...I think I would have kicked it if it was anything over a yard.....

[pbmax]

It doesn't matter. You need 2 scores, including a FG.

It does because 16 yard line is much easier to score TD than 35 yard line

[King Friday]

It isn't a story about what the Buffalo defense has done...it is exactly how to beat the Packers, and Schwartz knows it. Why McCarthy didn't try something different, I don't know.

[pbmax]

I like that play call. Good job Buffs.

[pbmax]

Blown coverage. No one in that zone.

[smuggler]

Jim Schwartz looks like he has fetal alcohol syndrome.

[King Friday]

It does because 16 yard line is much easier to score TD than 35 yard line

And if you fail, it doesn't matter what yard line you are on. Game over.

[ThunderDan]

Forgot to cover the TE.

[esoxx]

Somewhere wist is rolling over in his grave.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Confused coverage on that one

[Rutnstrut]

There's your great defense king friday.

[Harlan Huckleby]

There would be 5 minutes left in game if Packers hadn't been idiots

[pbmax]

And if you fail, it doesn't matter what yard line you are on. Game over.

You play to win, not play whole 60 minutes within one score.

[ThunderDan]

Wrong call there RG moved first.

[Rutnstrut]

Yup that's a hell of a defense.

[esoxx]

You play to win, not play whole 60 minutes within one score.

Pbmax is herm edwards?

[King Friday]

Barrington has had a poor game.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Just not our day

[red]

Tramon tried to pick it up instead of just falling on the fucking thing

Sums up our day, whole team played with their heads up their asses

[King Friday]

You play to win, not play whole 60 minutes within one score.

You can't win on one play when down 9 points.

[smuggler]

This game is fixed. I'm out. Fuck the National Fucktard League.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tramon tried to pick it up instead of just falling on the fucking thing

Sums up our day, whole team played with their heads up their asses

defense was mostly ok

[ThunderDan]

Yup that's a hell of a defense.

Yup holding a team to 254 yards and not TDs is suck ass.

[pbmax]

You can't win on one play when down 9 points.

But TD is better odds from 16 than anything from 35 yard line. It was the drive for a TD.

[red]

So, we go back to the famous question which now has an answer

This team wins or losses with a rod, we can not win if he's off

[Rutnstrut]

Yup holding a team to 254 yards and not TDs is suck ass.

It is if they have more points than the Packers at the end.

[pbmax]

Thank you Buffs. Gave Packers a fifth tmeout.

[Harlan Huckleby]

do you believe in miracles?

[ThunderDan]

So, we go back to the famous question which now has an answer

This team wins or losses with a rod, we can not win if he's off

We are ahead 13-12 without the punt return for Buff.

[King Friday]

But TD is better odds from 16 than anything from 35 yard line. It was the drive for a TD.

Odds are better to win the game taking the FG in that position than going for the TD. If it was a 7 point game, I would agree with you. But a TD there doesn't get you the lead any more than a FG does.

[KYPack]

We got one chip and a chair.

[Rutnstrut]

More stellar special teams play also.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

We have a chance, that is all we can ask.

[red]

defense was mostly ok

Orton has missed a lot of guys that were pretty wide open

It wasnt the all out cluster that last week was, but they still had some major issues

[pbmax]

Now you have 90 yards and need TD. Far easier if you need 60 yards and FG.

From the 16 yard line of the opposition. Its time to use 3rd and 4th for first down in trying to score.

They now need to do something they haven't done since the first drive of the game. Long drive to score.

[King Friday]

Packers will move the ball easily down to the 30 yard line here...can we pull off another Miami miracle?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

This is the game winning drive right here!!!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm covering my eyes rest of way

[King Friday]

Now you have 90 yards and need TD. Far easier if you need 60 yards and FG.

That is IF you convert the TD. If not, the game is over. The chances of converting a 3rd and long there were under 50%.

[pbmax]

Odds are better to win the game taking the FG in that position than going for the TD. If it was a 7 point game, I would agree with you. But a TD there doesn't get you the lead any more than a FG does.

Need two drives yes. From 16, its time for TD.

Now need TD from 9 yard line.

[Iron Mike]

And there is your dagger....

[ThunderDan]

The refs are idiots.

[red]

We are ahead 13-12 without the punt return for Buff.

So whats your point? Special teams still counts

How the fuck is that a safety? That is a horrible rule

[King Friday]

How the hell is that a safety?

[Rutnstrut]

There you have Rodgers holding the ball way too long again.

[King Friday]

Why would only the QB be allowed to pick that up? That makes no sense?

[ThunderDan]

The refs are idiots.

That is a horrible rule.

[pbmax]

That is IF you convert the TD. If not, the game is over. The chances of converting a 3rd and long there were under 50%.

What are chances of TD drive from your own 9?

[esoxx]

How the hell is that a safety?

Can't advance fumble within two minutes. Fumble was in end zone. Safety

[ThunderDan]

There you have Rodgers holding the ball way too long again.

What?. He threw it on 5 steps. You have no clue.

[pbmax]

That is IF you convert the TD. If not, the game is over. The chances of converting a 3rd and long there were under 50%.

You are playing to extend the game while within one score. that is not maximizing the chance to win when the O is struggling.

[pbmax]

Game just like Detroit.

[pittstang5]

Fitting end to this cluster fuck of a game

[King Friday]

Way too many passes in this game for the Packers. McCarthy should've been running the ball all day...but refused to and lost because of it.

[Rutnstrut]

What?. He threw it on 5 steps. You have no clue.

The fact that it was a pass right there also shows stubby is an idiot. Perfect spot to run, but hey Lacy was running well so dumb Mike goes away from it.

[pbmax]

D now has another one over the O this year.

[Joemailman]

Game just like Detroit.

I thought Detroit just beat the Packers. Today I thought the Packers offense was a comedy of errors.

[King Friday]

You are playing to extend the game while within one score. that is not maximizing the chance to win when the O is struggling.

Ultimately, we had about a 4% chance either way with as many miscues we made today.

[pbmax]

The fact that it was a pass right there also shows stubby is an idiot. Perfect spot to run, but hey Lacy was running well so dumb Mike goes away from it.

Less than 2 minutes left and no timeouts is the perfect time to run?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Between the packers and badgers, this has been a rough two weeks.

[Rutnstrut]

Way too many passes in this game for the Packers. McCarthy should've been running the ball all day...but refused to and lost because of it.

EXACTLY, this team will once again go nowhere post season.

[Bossman641]

The fact that it was a pass right there also shows stubby is an idiot. Perfect spot to run, but hey Lacy was running well so dumb Mike goes away from it.

You are clueless. Need to drive ninety yards in 1:50. Ya let's run

[KYPack]

Sumbitches pulled out the chair.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I say string-up pbmax as sacrificial goat. A killing can cleanse any community. Pbmax was wrong on that last field goal, kill him.

[Rutnstrut]

Less than 2 minutes left and no timeouts is the perfect time to run?

Pinned deep like that, YES! But really they should have been running it all day and it wouldn't have came to this, but of course that's not what fat Mike wanted.

[pbmax]

I thought Detroit just beat the Packers. Today I thought the Packers offense was a comedy of errors.


Rodgers was spooked by something today and I suspect it was the pass rush. He and receivers not on same page and then got more and more inaccurate until 4th Quarter. Errors yes, but errors because of their D and very good initial coverage.

[ThunderDan]

You are clueless. Need to drive ninety yards in 1:50. Ya let's run

Doesn't matter what the Pack do. If they lose it is always the wrong play. MM/TT/Dunderdumby all suck.

[Harlan Huckleby]

EXACTLY, this team will once again go nowhere post season.

what do you mean, Seattle is nice break from bitter cold