Winners - Losers Packers vs. Bucs

[esoxx]

Winners:
Peppers
D. Jones
Clay
Haha CD
Burnett
Lacy
Nelson
Thunder Dan
Guiness & Red secondary game threads

Losers:
Slocum
Stubby red zone
Thunder Dan - need a better effort next week. Late on promised game thread and then left to go shopping at mall. Not going to cut it next week. Thank god red & guiness were there to pick you up.
Masthay
Ronde Barber

[King Friday]

Winner:

Packer consecutive playoff appearance streak
Defense...other than Sam Shields

Loser:

Packer red zone offense
Packer medical staff...I'm foreseeing a lot of long days of treatment and ointments this week

[Joemailman]

Winner: Rodgers toughed it out on a day where he was sick and hurt.

Loser: Adams. 2 more drops.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Loser: Adams. 2 more drops.

Adams & 2 more drips. Quarless & R. Rodgers. Q's drop in endzone=disheartening. he is bad, or at least fading.

[pbmax]

Adams & 2 more drips. Quarless & R. Rodgers. Q's drop in endzone=disheartening. he is bad, or at least fading.

Why Rodgers?

[esoxx]

Adams & 2 more drips. Quarless & R. Rodgers. Q's drop in endzone=disheartening. he is bad, or at least fading.

Bring black Finley!!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Why Rodgers?

what does his stat line look like?

[denverYooper]

Bring black Finley!!!

This.

[King Friday]

Bring black Finley!!!

Who is white Finley?

[pbmax]

what does his stat line look like?

3 targets, 2 receptions 13 yards.

[pbmax]

Packers had some red zone trouble last year too. Finley isn't the entire answer.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Winners:
Haha CD


QFT.

I saw Dix outran coverage on a bomb and missed yet another open field tackle on a short pass that turned into a long gain. He did have a pass breakup, but that shoulda been a pick.

Fill my memory. When's the last time the guy made a play? Cos its been sooooooo long, I can't remember.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Who is white Finley?

Kyle Rudolph

[Harlan Huckleby]

3 targets, 2 receptions 13 yards.

Q has been horrible past two weeks. That is not enough out of TE position.

[Harlan Huckleby]

No way should Tank be banned

[esoxx]

QFT.

I saw Dix outran coverage on a bomb and missed yet another open field tackle on a short pass that turned into a long gain. He did have a pass breakup, but that shoulda been a pick.

Fill my memory. When's the last time the guy made a play? Cos its been sooooooo long, I can't remember.

You have to grade this with MD Jennings as point of reference. HCD has at least freed up Burnett to make plays. Take small victories where you can.

[woodbuck27]

Winners:
Peppers
D. Jones
Clay
Haha CD
Burnett
Lacy
Nelson
Thunder Dan
Guiness & Red secondary game threads

Losers:
Slocum
Stubby red zone
Thunder Dan - need a better effort next week. Late on promised game thread and then left to go shopping at mall. Not going to cut it next week. Thank god red & guiness were there to pick you up.
Masthay
Ronde Barber

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Dan you WILL .... come shopping with me.

Screw the damn Packers it's nearly time for Santa.

What do you mean... carrying the torch !?

[pbmax]

Q has been horrible past two weeks. That is not enough out of TE position.

Hard to do much with 3 targets each.

[pbmax]

QFT.

I saw Dix outran coverage on a bomb and missed yet another open field tackle on a short pass that turned into a long gain. He did have a pass breakup, but that shoulda been a pick.

Fill my memory. When's the last time the guy made a play? Cos its been sooooooo long, I can't remember.

Also two tackles for loss.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hard to do much with 3 targets each.

I'm crusty over Q's drop in endzone. The replay made it look pretty bad.

[Tyrion Lannister]

No way should Tank be banned

lol

I, for one, am against another 18 pages Winners/Losers thread. :)

[Harlan Huckleby]

whups, my bad, wrong thread

[KYPack]

No way should Tank be banned

He's standing over the trap, noose around his neck, crying like a bitch.

Stout hands are reaching for the lever now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Stout hands are reaching for the lever now.

Careful, I'd hate to have you throw your back out

[Guiness]

Losers: people walking to their cars after the game!

https://twitter.com/weatherchannel/status/546781394504937472/photo/1
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/12/21/lightning_raymond_ja.html?cmpid=breaking

[woodbuck27]

WINNERS:

** A solid game for the OL and DL and Packer 'D' overall. Now.... this is Tampa bay they played.

** A solid game and recovery and a gutsy performance for Aaron Rodgers.

I'd hate to see the MVP slip away from him.

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT

A. Rodgers 31/40 318 1 0

** Eddie Lacy and another plus 100 Yard game from scrimmage and a TD.

Receiving REC YDS TD LG

R. Cobb 11 131 0 30

J. Nelson 9 113 1 28

LOSERS:

Special Teams ...again:

Punting NO AVG I20 LG

T. Masthay 2 34.5 0 43


Punt Returns NO AVG TD LG

*** R. Cobb 2 1 0 4

*** Why is Randall Cobb returning punts !? He's too valuable to risk an injury that way.

M. Hyde 2 1 0 2

Tight End...we need more here:

Receiving REC YDS TD LG

A. Quarless 2 17 0 16

R. Rodgers 2 13 0 8

4 Receptions for 30 Yards....and that's all she wrote

[Tyrion Lannister]

Also two tackles for loss.

I'll keep an eye out for Dix when I watch the NFL Shortcuts of this game trm. From what I saw watching the game "live" on TV, Dix didn't look like no stud.

Note: Live TV nowadays is usually shown on 5-60 seconds tape delay. I fucking hate it cos people at the stadium get to perceive the outcome of a play before I do. :-x

[KYPack]

I'll keep an eye out for Dix when I watch the NFL Shortcuts of this game trm. From what I saw watching the game "live" on TV, Dix didn't look like no stud.

Note: Live TV nowadays is usually shown on 5-60 seconds tape delay. I fucking hate it cos people at the stadium already perceived the outcome of a play before I do. :-x

The best safety tandem since Robinson-Butler, played spectacularly.

Dix is the best rookie safety in my memory. Collins had poor 1st year, Butler played CB.

Merry Christmas, Tanky.

Enjoy your hanging.

Take it like a man.

[esoxx]

Winner:
Brad Jones, Big Mac gave him big props in his presser.

Loser:
Big Mac, gave Brad Jones props in his presser.

[KYPack]

Winner:
Brad Jones, Big Mac gave him big props in his presser.

Loser:
Big Mac, gave Brad Jones props in his presser.


What did MM say about Brad Jones? I noticed him lurking around in cover. A tad deep in seemed, but not as bad as his usual debacles.

[mraynrand]

Bring black Finley!!!

Winner: esoxx, for Mobb reference
Loser: esoxx, for forgetting to use ALL CAPS

[mraynrand]

What did MM say about Brad Jones? I noticed him lurking around in cover. A tad deep in seemed, but not as bad as his usual debacles.

Against a decent QB, Jones would have given up a couple of huge completions to the running back. He's a total liability in there, but Packer coaches will probably think this win over the mighty Buccaneer offense means something.

[esoxx]

What did MM say about Brad Jones? I noticed him lurking around in cover. A tad deep in seemed, but not as bad as his usual debacles.

Pretty much typical coachspeak "I thought Bred Jones played well."

[mraynrand]

Pretty much typical coachspeak "I thought Brat Jones played well."

FIFY

[pbmax]

What did MM say about Brad Jones? I noticed him lurking around in cover. A tad deep in seemed, but not as bad as his usual debacles.

Liked his delayed blitzes when RB didn't release into route. He had a sack or at least a hurry/hit and one chase.

[KYPack]

Pretty much typical coachspeak "I thought Bred Jones played well."

I thought Jones presence was like MM's victory cigar. We are whipping their asses up front, lets err on the side of
cover kind of thing.

Lattimore looked good and pretty healthy.

[Joemailman]

I thought Jones presence was like MM's victory cigar. We are whipping their asses up front, lets err on the side of
cover kind of thing.

Lattimore looked good and pretty healthy.

He's on injured reserve. :confused:

[KYPack]

Oops.

Barrington, I meant.

He looked pretty good, aggressive with some good run fills.

[ThunderDan]

Burnett was stud number 1 for the game. Lacy, Cobb and Nelson were a close second on the O.

[Bretsky]

Winner: Rodgers toughed it out on a day where he was sick and hurt.

Loser: Adams. 2 more drops.


I really liked Allen Robinson
Wist really liked Donte Moncrief

Many homers jumped on Ted's wagon right when they chose him; to me the two noted above showed more than Adams did this year.

I'm really disappointed Adams didn't continue to develop. We HAVE to bring back Randall Cobb.

[Bretsky]

Why Rodgers?


Just another reminder that everybody who jumped all over Ted for drafting a guy way too early .........just may have been right

[Joemailman]

Adams will be fine. He's struggling late in his rookie season. Same thing happened to Greg Jennings. I'll take TT's track record on WR's over anybody. Guess I'm a homer.

[Bretsky]

Hard to do much with 3 targets each.

perhaps they should learn the meaning of separation; they often look like 2014 Badger WR's trying to get open

[pbmax]

Tough to call a guy out like that when he didn't get an opportunity to shine. Disappointment in a position is kinda weak when placed at a rookie's feet.

[KYPack]

I really liked Allen Robinson
Wist really liked Donte Moncrief

Many homers jumped on Ted's wagon right when they chose him; to me the two noted above showed more than Adams did this year.

I'm really disappointed Adams didn't continue to develop. We HAVE to bring back Randall Cobb.

He's still percolating B-Man.

All these collge boys must learn that NFL pass is ON you right out of the break.

Kid has talent and tries to battle thru his rough spots.

But yeah, R Cobb is a special guy with Packer written all over him, sign him please.

A big guaranteed deal won't foul our cap, we need Cobb and Jordy.

[Pugger]

Burnett was stud number 1 for the game. Lacy, Cobb and Nelson were a close second on the O.

Clay, Peppers and Neal made an impact too.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I really liked Allen Robinson
Wist really liked Donte Moncrief

Many homers jumped on Ted's wagon right when they chose him; to me the two noted above showed more than Adams did this year.

I'm really disappointed Adams didn't continue to develop. We HAVE to bring back Randall Cobb.

Moncrief started today and had two grabs for 5 yards. I'd bring back Cobb, but it's a bit early to toot your horn when none of these guys have been lights out. All look solid for the future. Moncrief has good upside and he'll put up numbers with Luck, but so will Adams when he gets his chance.

[QBME]

Winner: John Kuhn

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Adams & 2 more drips. Quarless & R. Rodgers. Q's drop in endzone=disheartening. he is bad, or at least fading.

Loser - Jeff Janis cause he must really suck if he can't even get a shot with Adams dropping all these balls.

[SkinBasket]

Adams must have done something shitty in practice this week because those balls he dropped were thrown about as hard as they could be. Looked like Rodgers was conducting a teachable moment on the field. Adams will be fine.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tough to call a guy out like that when he didn't get an opportunity to shine. Disappointment in a position is kinda weak when placed at a rookie's feet.

I don't care if the TEs are high school kids with polio. If the position is unproductive the players are duds.

We don't coddle around here. You know what Vince would say about the execution of the TEs.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Loser - Jeff Janis cause he must really suck if he can't even get a shot with Adams dropping all these balls.

not to mention Dujuan Harris's KO returns.

If I were King of the forrest - not Queen, not Duke, not Prince - both Janis and Bostick would be brought on the field for playoff run. What's to lose?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Winner: John Kuhn

The wrath of Kaaaaaaaaaahn! was on display.

[pbmax]

Adams must have done something shitty in practice this week because those balls he dropped were thrown about as hard as they could be. Looked like Rodgers was conducting a teachable moment on the field. Adams will be fine.

Rodgers has been throwing the short stuff like that for a few weeks. I am not sure what is going on. He did that a lot in Buffalo.

Good news is that somehow Rodgers and Starks are in sync passing, which usually only happens in leap years.

[pbmax]

I don't care if the TEs are high school kids with polio. If the position is unproductive the players are duds.

We don't coddle around here. You know what Vince would say about the execution of the TEs.

You mean John McKay?

[Smidgeon]

Winners:

Pass rushers, but especial praise for Perry. That bull rush that set up Mike Daniels' sack was something special. Looks like his shoulder is back.
HHCD: Loved how he knifed into the backfield to drop the carrier when everyone else was occupying blockers. Kid has a knack for getting into the backfield and in a position to make a play. He misses some, but that will improve with experience.
Burnett: Proof he's not two people came this year when HHCD became the second person and Burnett could go back to playing one and being what he is: a good, versatile safety.
Lacy: No more needs to be said.

Losers:
Adams...again (but he'll get better)
Red Zone offense. I think this is a by product of having only two reliable pass catchers on the team. I expected a huge year from Cobb and Nelson if they stayed healthy because most of the other pass catchers on the team are either pedestrian (e.g. entire TE corp) or at least year away (e.g. Janis, Abby) though Lacy and Starks have been pleasant surprises as pass catchers and provide a different type of 1-2 punch as receivers (Lacy as a checkdown, Starks split wide).

[pbmax]

Red Zone offense. I think this is a by product of having only two reliable pass catchers on the team. I expected a huge year from Cobb and Nelson if they stayed healthy because most of the other pass catchers on the team are either pedestrian (e.g. entire TE corp) or at least year away (e.g. Janis, Abby) though Lacy and Starks have been pleasant surprises as pass catchers and provide a different type of 1-2 punch as receivers (Lacy as a checkdown, Starks split wide).

On this one I do agree with the Blamers of Play Calling. There are quite possibly only two WR threats to worry about, so why go five wide? Keep at least one if not two backs in and go with Q or Rodgers and a FB. Make the defense defend the entire thing because GB is one of the few teams that might hand it to the FB close to the goal line.

[Guiness]

On this one I do agree with the Blamers of Play Calling. There are quite possibly only two WR threats to worry about, so why go five wide? Keep at least one if not two backs in and go with Q or Rodgers and a FB. Make the defense defend the entire thing because GB is one of the few teams that might hand it to the FB close to the goal line.

Boykin with 2 receptions - wtf happened there, eh? Didn't they call up another WR, Gillette or someone? What happened there, did he go right back down or get released?

Oh, and no one has anything to say about the lightning strike in the parking lot after the game? That's nuts!

[Guiness]

Boykin with 2 receptions - wtf happened there, eh? Didn't they call up another WR, Gillette or someone? What happened there, did he go right back down or get released?


Dorsey. That's who they called up. He ended up on IR.

[Fritz]

Loser: Brandon Bostick.

Man, you could be catching passes down the middle of the field from Aaron Rodgers, but instead you're wrestling with someone else's linebacker on coverage teams.

[Carolina_Packer]

Loser: Brandon Bostick.

Man, you could be catching passes down the middle of the field from Aaron Rodgers, but instead you're wrestling with someone else's linebacker on coverage teams.

What happened with Bostick? I know he was hurt in the latter part of training camp and the start of the season, but I wonder why he hasn't made any kind of an impact? Weren't the reports out of TC that he was doing well? He wouldn't be the first or last camp phenom, but come on! We need a seam route guy. Hard to rely on Richard Rodgers being that he is a rookie. At this point, what are the chances that any of the TE's make a solid contribution as receivers this season/post-season?

[Bretsky]

. Disappointment in a position is kinda weak when placed at a rookie's feet.


good thing we didn't need to make the same excuse for our center

[pbmax]

good thing we didn't need to make the same excuse for our center

Linsley is starting, Rodgers is not.

[Joemailman]

What happened with Bostick? I know he was hurt in the latter part of training camp and the start of the season, but I wonder why he hasn't made any kind of an impact? Weren't the reports out of TC that he was doing well? He wouldn't be the first or last camp phenom, but come on! We need a seam route guy. Hard to rely on Richard Rodgers being that he is a rookie. At this point, what are the chances that any of the TE's make a solid contribution as receivers this season/post-season?

Reports out of training camp were mixed. he was making plays...when he ran his routes correctly. Lack of confidence in his route running has kept him on the bench. He's not a rookie. If he doesn't know the offense in his 3rd year, have to wonder if he ever will. Huge disappointment.

[Bretsky]

Linsley is starting, Rodgers is not.

As Chris Carter would say............COME ON MAN !!!!!!!!!!!

Rodgers had every chance to earn a spot
The two guys he is competing with pretty much suck

Linsley.....when given a shot he embraced it and earned his spot

And truth be told he's ahead of a very capable starter...way more than RR can say

[George Cumby]

I
As Chris Carter would say............COME ON MAN !!!!!!!!!!!



Quoting Chris Carter does little to bolster one's argument. :-)

[Carolina_Packer]

Reports out of training camp were mixed. he was making plays...when he ran his routes correctly. Lack of confidence in his route running has kept him on the bench. He's not a rookie. If he doesn't know the offense in his 3rd year, have to wonder if he ever will. Huge disappointment.

I hadn't heard that, Joe. Well, if that's the case, weird that he made the team at all. Maybe there's that tease factor where they think he will figure it out, or just needs a little success to build his confidence, but his playing time in the passing game has been very limited, so where is that confidence going to come from? So, if he can't really play, I'm surprised a guy like him stays and a special teams guy like Ryan Taylor gets cut. I would think Taylor more valuable to the team because he is likely better on special teams.

[Pugger]

On this one I do agree with the Blamers of Play Calling. There are quite possibly only two WR threats to worry about, so why go five wide? Keep at least one if not two backs in and go with Q or Rodgers and a FB. Make the defense defend the entire thing because GB is one of the few teams that might hand it to the FB close to the goal line.

Mac did say after the game if he could have a do-over there he would have put the ball in Rodgers' hand and not the FB there. I hope he remembers that in the future...

[pbmax]

As Chris Carter would say............COME ON MAN !!!!!!!!!!!

Rodgers had every chance to earn a spot
The two guys he is competing with pretty much suck

Linsley.....when given a shot he embraced it and earned his spot

And truth be told he's ahead of a very capable starter...way more than RR can say

And this has what to do with the outcome of the Bucs game?

[pbmax]

I hadn't heard that, Joe. Well, if that's the case, weird that he made the team at all. Maybe there's that tease factor where they think he will figure it out, or just needs a little success to build his confidence, but his playing time in the passing game has been very limited, so where is that confidence going to come from? So, if he can't really play, I'm surprised a guy like him stays and a special teams guy like Ryan Taylor gets cut. I would think Taylor more valuable to the team because he is likely better on special teams.

Yeah, Joe has this right. More than once he had the catch of the day and then the next day the coaches would say he needs to get his game together to progress.

Just like McAdoo butted heads with Finley, Fontenot seems to be butting heads with Bostick.