The Calf

[Harlan Huckleby]

Is it possible that Rodger's injury could linger on for a month?

Could Packers win with Rodgers a little hobbled?

[Patler]

Dr. Jung, a foot and ankle surgeon at Kerlan-Jobe Orthopedic said it could take 6-8 weeks for full recovery, IF he doesn't re-injure it.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2014/12/29/aaron-rodgers-calf-unlikely-full-strength-playoffs/21028483/

[HarveyWallbangers]

Very concerning. I like our chances with a healthy Rodgers. I think a hobbled Rodgers would likely end our chances. If we have any chance to beat Seattle in Seattle, we need Rodgers to play like he did at Atlanta during the Super Bowl run--that's if we got past Dallas.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Very concerning. I like our chances with a healthy Rodgers. I think a hobbled Rodgers would likely end our chances. If we have any chance to beat Seattle in Seattle, we need Rodgers to play like he did at Atlanta during the Super Bowl run--that's if we got past Dallas.

Not concerned, not with the bye coming up. Time heals all wounds, including a calf injury.

Even if the calf is not 100%, Rodgers needs not run like Kap. Calf should be healed enough for Rodgers to elude defenders behind the LOS.

Rodgers' golden arm, not his calf, will determine the Packers' fate. The arm's the thing to uncover the conscience of the king.

[denverYooper]

Very concerning. I like our chances with a healthy Rodgers. I think a hobbled Rodgers would likely end our chances. If we have any chance to beat Seattle in Seattle, we need Rodgers to play like he did at Atlanta during the Super Bowl run--that's if we got past Dallas.

I don't know about this. It depends on how hobbled he is. I'm halfway thinking that Rodgers injury has forced him to play the way that he needs to to beat good defenses: less touchdown-to-checkdown looks, more take-what-they-give-you. More screens, quick hits, etc with some medium stuff thrown in and shots on occasion. It's interesting to see that he's been really quite effective without going to so many verticals and second reaction plays.

On the other hand, there are many times when his ability to extend plays on 3rd down results in conversions, amazing plays, etc.

[Guiness]

What about the sneak for a TD? Can't believe they called Rodger's number for that, I wonder if he did that himself.

[Bossman641]

What about the sneak for a TD? Can't believe they called Rodger's number for that, I wonder if he did that himself.

He called his own number

[pbmax]

Steve 'Homer' True made a rare, insightful point yesterday that the injury in New Orleans might have shown Rodgers that there is a different way to play QB. Healthy, he has no reason to, but injured he might have to.

Stay in the pocket and make like Tom Brady or late-era Favre with more impulse control.

The problem with this is, like Buffalo, Seattle is going single-safety and attacking the short stuff. So he will likely need to buy time to throw deep before the Super Bowl.

[pbmax]

What about the sneak for a TD? Can't believe they called Rodger's number for that, I wonder if he did that himself.

He almost fell down when he went forward. He twisted in but his knee almost touched down.

[Guiness]

He almost fell down when he went forward. He twisted in but his knee almost touched down.

I'll have to re-watch that. Was watching the game taped, but got yelled at for re-winding a couple of earlier plays so I'll do it when no one else is around!

[King Friday]

The calf won't affect him in the pocket.

It will limit his mobility. The Packers can counter that with their run game. Rodgers will need to throw the ball away sometimes. It is a good lesson for him to learn...he's not getting younger and his legs won't be good enough to escape with for too much longer.

If mobility doesn't stop Manning and Brady from winning...why should it stop Rodgers?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Little mobility for one half. I doubt it works in three games against top notch opponents. Rodgers needs to be healthy for this run.

[woodbuck27]

This is a legit concern because he may have limited mobility and that's a huge part of what Aaron Rodgers is.

I wonder if more regular massage might help?

Increase blood flow to speed up healing somewhat?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I wonder if more regular massage might help?

Increase blood flow

I'm gonna stop you there, this is getting a little creepy. "woody", indeed.

[Joemailman]

Little mobility for one half. I doubt it works in three games against top notch opponents. Rodgers needs to be healthy for this run.

He needs to watch some film of Brady and Manning to see how they do it.

[denverYooper]

He needs to watch some film of Brady and Manning to see how they do it.

He can do it the same way they do it... because he's just as good at processing a defense. His arm is better at this point.

His mobility gives him an extra dimension that those guys don't have but there's a good argument to be made that there is sometimes a cost to his willingness to extend plays.

[King Friday]

I doubt it works in three games against top notch opponents.

Not with McCarthy's regular game plan. We are going to need to use the run game more to pacify the opposing pass rush. Based on Sunday's game, our run game should be able to accomplish that against nearly anyone.

[Tyrion Lannister]

I'm gonna stop you there, this is getting a little creepy. "woody", indeed.

I dunno if this is funny, but here's a joke:

A male cow goes into a bar and buys a female cow a drink...and another and another and another, but not enough to get the female cow passed-out drunk (the male cow ain't no rapist). Afterward, the female cow agrees to go with the male cow back to his barn. In the barn, the male cow gets lucky and hits a home run, consensually. The male cow plants his glorious seed inside the female cow. Weeks later, the female cow gives birth to?....

A calf....To quote texaspackerbacker, hahahahaha

http://calfdoctor.com/w/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/calf.jpg

[gbgary]

http://imaginarymuseum.org/EUFL/Moses2.jpg

where's your messiah noooowww?

[red]

So he said today on his radio show that he thought he "poped" his achillies Sunday, that's why he stayed down so long.

Guess we dodged a bullet there

[ThunderDan]

Little mobility for one half. I doubt it works in three games against top notch opponents. Rodgers needs to be healthy for this run.

I don't know. In 2010 the O-line was a tire fire with the long routes GB ran. MM changed his play calling and went to a more traditional WCO. I like the quicker routes and relying on YAC.

[mraynrand]

So he said today on his radio show that he thought he "poped" his achillies Sunday, that's why he stayed down so long.

Get healthy, my son.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01767/the-pope_1767102c.jpg

Get healthy.

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/51/files/2013/04/6929404.jpg

[pbmax]

He also said its two distinct injuries to the calf. Which actually might be better for healing as a reinsure might take longer overall and the first injury seems to have survived the Lions game intact.

However, if his calf is just going to shred itself over the next month, might make no difference at all.

[Packers4Glory]

He needs enough mobility to be able to move around and extend plays when needed. We can't operate strictly out of the gun. he has to be able to scramble for 1st downs when it's open. and of course he has to be healthy enough to to re-injure it should he have to run.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This injury could easily spoil Packers' playoff hopes. We'll see. I shake my fist at God.

[mraynrand]

This injury could easily spoil Packers' playoff hopes. We'll see. I shake my fist at God.

That's better than making deals with Satan. You're making progress.

[Bretsky]

I think we can beat Dallas if he's less than 100%

Seattle need to be mobile to have the 25% chance of winning I give them at Seattle with AROD being healthy

[Pugger]

The calf won't affect him in the pocket.

It will limit his mobility. The Packers can counter that with their run game. Rodgers will need to throw the ball away sometimes. It is a good lesson for him to learn...he's not getting younger and his legs won't be good enough to escape with for too much longer.

If mobility doesn't stop Manning and Brady from winning...why should it stop Rodgers?

If we can get the running game going against the loins we can do that against anybody in the tournament.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Aaron-Rodgers-on-progress-of-calf-injury/097cf337-401c-434f-823d-9a3e8e433241

Aaron Rodgers on progress of calf injury

Comment woodbuck27:

This was on Jan. 02, 2015.

Rodgers comment on a lot here.

What do we have since on the progress of his calf and ability to move in and out of the pocket?

I found this:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12129134/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-says-calf-better-examined-wednesday

Aaron Rodgers: Calf 'feels better'

Updated: January 6, 2015, 5:37 PM ET

By: Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

GO PACK GO !

[pbmax]

So how big a lead do you need (and when) to put Flynn in?

[hoosier]

So how big a lead do you need (and when) to put Flynn in?

3rd quarter: up by 5 TDs or more
start of 4th quarter: up by 4+ TDs
6:00 left: up by 3+ TDs

[Harlan Huckleby]

You want Flynn in ASAP so Rodgers has no setbacks for Seattle. It does no good to win if Rodgers gets hurt.

[woodbuck27]

You want Flynn in ASAP so Rodgers has no setbacks for Seattle. It does no good to win if Rodgers gets hurt.

Win with Flynn !?

Best to rest.



Aaron Rodgers won't practise before his calf is ready.

Patler's post #2 this thread:

http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...offs/21028483/

[hoosier]

You want Flynn in ASAP so Rodgers has no setbacks for Seattle. It does no good to win if Rodgers gets hurt.

It does no good to keep Rodgers healthy if the Pack loses. Well, except for Rodgers himself, that is.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It does no good to keep Rodgers healthy if the Pack loses. Well, except for Rodgers himself, that is.

yes, the idea is to rest Rodgers as soon as you have a strong chance of winning. Don't hold out for near certainty.

[woodbuck27]

yes, the idea is to rest Rodgers as soon as you have a strong chance of winning. Don't hold out for near certainty.

The only thing I feel is certain as we discuss this Aaron Rodgers and injury again:

TT needs to find a capable backup QB. Is anybody really really confident in Matt Flynn?

[Cheesehead Craig]

The only thing I feel is certain as we discuss this Aaron Rodgers and injury again:

TT needs to find a capable backup QB. Is anybody really really confident in Matt Flynn?

After the fiasco last year, the backup QB situation is light years better than it was. Flynn is a solid backup. There's a whole lot worse backups out there.

[Harlan Huckleby]

TT needs to find a capable backup QB. Is anybody really really confident in Matt Flynn?

ya, that's a problem. But if the lead shrinks, you can always trot - or at least walk - The Prince back out there.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Flynn is a solid backup. There's a whole lot worse backups out there.

He hasn't shown much this year. He was OK in preseason, Tolzien looked better.

[pbmax]

He hasn't shown much this year. He was OK in preseason, Tolzien looked better.

Tolzien will be active so you might get to see your guy in uniform.

[woodbuck27]

After the fiasco last year, the backup QB situation is light years better than it was. Flynn is a solid backup. There's a whole lot worse backups out there.

It's like an echo.

Flynn is a solid backup. Flynn is a solid backup. Flynn is a solid backup. Flynn is a solid backup.

I'm looking forward to:

Matt Flynn isn't any longer the Green Bay Packer backup QB.

Looking into the crystal ball. Matt Flynn makes a great:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXY6Tm0ByUE0370-kKbroSCf8xOoqir0eDE6xEPXQrCJGhHUDr_Q

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tolzien will be active so you might get to see your guy in uniform.

Excellent! He looks so handsome standing on sidelines in the home uniform colors.

[woodbuck27]

Excellent! He looks so handsome standing on sidelines in the home uniform colors.

Ohh boy! :whaa:

[Harlan Huckleby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1M5eEJeT38