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pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:10 PM
Get Bush out of there.

I should coach ;)

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:11 PM
Hug then. He leaned forward and tilted his head into him.


He hit him with the shoulder not his head and I assume trying to knock the ball loose.


PB, I'm not in favor of cheap shots....this one was close.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:12 PM
He had his jersey but I am not sure that was what the late flag was for.

Striker
01-04-2015, 06:12 PM
Couldn't make it any more blatant than that.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:12 PM
Do like me and just hope for a good game.

God willing, this goes into overtime.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:12 PM
Shouldn't Dez get flaged for running onto the field without a helmet?

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:12 PM
bogus, that was blatant PI

Striker
01-04-2015, 06:12 PM
Nevermind.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:12 PM
He hit him with the shoulder not his head and I assume trying to knock the ball loose.


PB, I'm not in favor of cheap shots....this one was close.

I agree it was close. Player has to make it less close. No shots to head. Coaches must be forced to change the techniques they teach.

But he did lean into it, he could have just wrapped him up.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
That looked like a face mask on Pettigrew.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
Coaches are cowards.

The math says go for it on 4th and short in the other team's territory.

Teamcheez1
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
How much did Jerry Jones pay to have that flag picked up?

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
Same old Lions.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
WOW. What a shitty punt. Lions trying to give it away now.

pittstang5
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
Detriot is imploding

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
I agree it was close. Player has to make it less close. No shots to head. Coaches must be forced to change the techniques they teach.

But he did lean into it, he could have just wrapped him up.


You are probably right, could have had a lower target....nice punt......10 yards.....lol.....

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
The zebras got that one right.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:15 PM
You are probably right, could have had a lower target....nice punt......10 yards.....lol.....

Good grief ! :cry:

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:15 PM
Same old Lions.

We could be looking at 8 minutes of Resistable Force vs. Movable Object.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:16 PM
We're finally getting an interesting game.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:18 PM
The Lions have done a nice job keeping the league rushing leader in check.

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:18 PM
I still think Megatron will be heard from in this game.

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:19 PM
Go for it on 4th and 6?


wtf?

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:20 PM
I think I would punt here. tough call.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:20 PM
Go for it on 4th and 6?


wtf?

The math favors it.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:21 PM
See? :x

Heed the math.

Teamcheez1
01-04-2015, 06:21 PM
Coaches are cowards.

The math says go for it on 4th and short in the other team's territory.

Ask Mike Sherman about that....

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:23 PM
A huge 4th down play coming up.

A 4th and 6.

and.....Romoo delivers a huge 21 yard pass to who else:

Jason Whitten. Their at the Detroit 21.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:23 PM
Twitter just erupted with Dallas-related questions:

Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 6m6 minutes ago
That's pass interference contact and not playing the ball. Good call

shannon sharpe ‏@ShannonSharpe 6m6 minutes ago
That's B.S

Kareem Copeland ‏@kareemcopeland 6m6 minutes ago
Hold up? What?

Stephen White ‏@sgw94 6m6 minutes ago
Shhhhhh RT @T__von: That's some bs

Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero 6m6 minutes ago
This is why Dez yells.

Tom Crabtree ‏@itsCrab 6m6 minutes ago
Jerry got that flag picked up real quick.

Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert 7m7 minutes ago
Crowd is getting to the refs.

mike freeman ‏@mikefreemanNFL 7m7 minutes ago
Revenge of Jungle Boy.

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 8m8 minutes ago
Fishy

mike freeman ‏@mikefreemanNFL 8m8 minutes ago
That was a shady ass reversal.

shannon sharpe ‏@ShannonSharpe 8m8 minutes ago
Flag pick up. "@JerryLawrence11: @ShannonSharpe the call or the pickup?"

Aaron Nagler ‏@AaronNagler 8m8 minutes ago
So, Jerry's check cleared.

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 8m8 minutes ago
This has to be Jerry Jones-related.

NYT 4th Down Bot ‏@NYT4thDownBot 8m8 minutes ago
Wait, no I don't.

Doug Farrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 8m8 minutes ago
Dean Blandino just got his seat back on Jerry Jones' party bus...

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:24 PM
A Detroit holding penalty puts the ball at the Detroit 16 yard line.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:24 PM
Ask Mike Sherman about that....

Yeah, a mistake Sherman made was not going for it on 4th and 1 in the 4th and 26 game.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:25 PM
How does the side judge see that hold he called on Beasley's route?

Umpire in front with view of hands didn't call anything.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:25 PM
Yeah, a mistake Sherman made was not going for it on 4th and 1 in the 4th and 26 game.

After he went for 4th and 1 and Green tripped on Tausch.

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:26 PM
How does the side judge see that hold he called on Beasley's route?

Umpire in front with view of hands didn't call anything.


These guys are pissing me off.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:26 PM
That call on Levy was right, but it usually doesn't get called

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:27 PM
if I'm detroit, i use timeout

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:28 PM
Interesting late decision to go into the shotgun and early a false start penalty.

red
01-04-2015, 06:28 PM
if i'm detroit i'm furious about that no call PI after they had announced it was PI

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:28 PM
Twitter just erupted with Dallas-related questions:

Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimD 6m6 minutes ago
That's pass interference contact and not playing the ball. Good call

shannon sharpe ‏@ShannonSharpe 6m6 minutes ago
That's B.S

Kareem Copeland ‏@kareemcopeland 6m6 minutes ago
Hold up? What?

Stephen White ‏@sgw94 6m6 minutes ago
Shhhhhh RT @T__von: That's some bs

Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero 6m6 minutes ago
This is why Dez yells.

Tom Crabtree ‏@itsCrab 6m6 minutes ago
Jerry got that flag picked up real quick.

Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert 7m7 minutes ago
Crowd is getting to the refs.

mike freeman ‏@mikefreemanNFL 7m7 minutes ago
Revenge of Jungle Boy.

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 8m8 minutes ago
Fishy

mike freeman ‏@mikefreemanNFL 8m8 minutes ago
That was a shady ass reversal.

shannon sharpe ‏@ShannonSharpe 8m8 minutes ago
Flag pick up. "@JerryLawrence11: @ShannonSharpe the call or the pickup?"

Aaron Nagler ‏@AaronNagler 8m8 minutes ago
So, Jerry's check cleared.

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 8m8 minutes ago
This has to be Jerry Jones-related.

NYT 4th Down Bot ‏@NYT4thDownBot 8m8 minutes ago
Wait, no I don't.

Brian Burke ‏@Adv_NFL_Stats 1m1 minute ago
I hope the league has a clear explanation of the rules and process behind that DPI reversal. Unprecedented. Could be a big black mark.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:28 PM
Damn

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:28 PM
Lions front four is gassed.

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:29 PM
Nice hold on the LT.....I know, I sound like ThunderDan now......

Striker
01-04-2015, 06:29 PM
"Justice" would see the Lions methodically move down the field and punch it in to win.

My money's on Stafford fucking it up somehow.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:30 PM
if i'm detroit i'm furious about that no call PI after they had announced it was PI

Afterward, Byrant ran onto the field without a helmet to pled his case...That shoulda been a flag, too, methinks.

Maxie the Taxi
01-04-2015, 06:30 PM
Is Romo that good against the blitz that Detroit's worried about rushing more than 4? Dom Capers better be watching. Can't give Romo that much time.

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:30 PM
"Justice" would see the Lions methodically move down the field and punch it in to win.

My money's on Stafford fucking it up somehow.


Big fan eh?

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:30 PM
Good grief Dallas has to want this game.

There it is:

Romo to Terrence Williams for his second of the game.

Dallas 24 - Detroit 20.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:31 PM
"Justice" would see the Lions methodically move down the field and punch it in to win.

My money's on Stafford fucking it up somehow.

The Lions team is tightening up.

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:32 PM
You have to bring more than 4 rushers there...Romo is NOTORIOUS for taking sacks in those situations.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:32 PM
Good grief Dallas has to want this game.

There it is:

Romo to Terrence Williams for his second of the game.

Dallas 24 - Detroit 20.

What was the over under Woody?

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:33 PM
What was the over under Woody?

47.5 I think was the last line I saw.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:33 PM
The one matchup I like versus Dallas is Doug Free in pass pro versus Peppers.

Striker
01-04-2015, 06:33 PM
Big fan eh?

Just doesn't seem like Detroit's day.

pittstang5
01-04-2015, 06:34 PM
Afterward, Byrant ran onto the field without a helmet to pled his case...That shoulda been a flag, too, methinks.

I thought I saw him on the field - that definitely should be a flag!

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:34 PM
Ouch...Dallas player gets hurt and stops the clock for the Lions.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:34 PM
Rodgers would've been nearing 50 on Dallas by now.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:35 PM
After he went for 4th and 1 and Green tripped on Tausch.

Conservative football is all about giving the other team a chance to win.

Gotta be aggressive.

Detriot shoulda gone for it on that 4th n 1 play. That decision might end up costing them the game.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:35 PM
What?

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:35 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA


Fall on it you fucking idiot.

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:36 PM
LMAO

fumble recovered by Dallas...then fumbled back to Detroit.

JUST FALL ON IT...NO NEED TO ADVANCE OR SHOWBOAT.

red
01-04-2015, 06:36 PM
turning into the keystone cops

pittstang5
01-04-2015, 06:36 PM
"Justice" would see the Lions methodically move down the field and punch it in to win.

My money's on Stafford fucking it up somehow.

there ya go....almost

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:37 PM
What do you think Detroit's chances are of driving for a TD? Id give them 15%

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:37 PM
Nothing describes both franchises in this century better than that one play sequence right there. Maybe if Romo got hurt watching it on the sideline and Bryant was handed a subpoena.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:38 PM
That decision might end up costing them the game.

I'd say the non-PI call turned the game.

oldbutnotdeadyet
01-04-2015, 06:38 PM
Did Jones pass some money in the 2nd half? Sure looks like everybody, including the refs, want Dallas to win.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:39 PM
Hey Cameron Lawrence ...just fall down when you recover a fumble in that position.

red
01-04-2015, 06:39 PM
What do you think Detroit's chances are of driving for a TD? Id give them 15%

yeah, not very high

miracle if detroit wins this one now

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:39 PM
What do you think Detroit's chances are of driving for a TD? Id give them 15%

http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/tools/live-wp-graph/index.php?gameid1=2015010401

23%

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:39 PM
Still waiting for Megatron to impact the game.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:39 PM
The Lions given a new life.

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:39 PM
I remember the Leon Lett play like it was yesterday.....

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:39 PM
Calvin, Calvin

red
01-04-2015, 06:40 PM
I'd say the non-PI call turned the game.

yup, thats up there with the fail mary call imo

we'll be talking about that call for a long time if the cowboys end up winning

red
01-04-2015, 06:40 PM
I remember the Leon Lett play like it was yesterday.....

that replay will never get old

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:41 PM
GET OOB AFTER A FIRST DOWN!

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:41 PM
great, but get out of bounds

Maxie the Taxi
01-04-2015, 06:43 PM
Dallas very good at batting down passes.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:43 PM
Implosion

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:44 PM
Chris Christie looks nervous.

red
01-04-2015, 06:44 PM
lions players just dont like going oob

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:44 PM
Only need 3 or 4 yards.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:44 PM
kick the FG

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:44 PM
Good, now you can make any play call for 3 to go.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:45 PM
Unbelievable. Just can't stand success.

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:45 PM
Girls win, Girls win....

Teamcheez1
01-04-2015, 06:45 PM
I think Dallas is going to present a real challenge to our defense next week.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 06:46 PM
There's the game.

Shoulda gone for it on 4th and 1.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:46 PM
Chris Christie looks nervous.

And then awkwardly tried to hump Jerrah's leg on that 4th down play.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 06:46 PM
Boys in Green Bay!!

Striker
01-04-2015, 06:46 PM
Bring it Dallas.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:47 PM
kinda funny that Detroit O-linemen dove on fumble instead of picking it up and running. Not that it would matter.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:47 PM
I think Dallas is going to present a real challenge to our defense next week.

On the positive side, Masthay might not have to punt.

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:47 PM
If you are betting folk...grab the UNDER in DET/DAL.

When the Lions defense has played run-heavy offenses recently, the average points scored in those game has been in the mid 30s. The o/u here is 48. The only way I see this getting over 48 is if we have a turnover-fest where the offenses are given a short field on numerous occasions. The Dallas offense late in the year has feasted on poor defenses...they aren't racking up 40 on Detroit.

Yay. $200 for me.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:48 PM
Boys in Green Bay!!

I'm OK with that. But Cam in Seattle disgusts me. I'd like to see Seattle have to work up a sweat.

red
01-04-2015, 06:48 PM
high of 11 for saturday, high of 18 on sunday

they just said it will be sunday

Teamcheez1
01-04-2015, 06:48 PM
Does anybody believe the Panthers can give the Seahags a game next week? I thought Detroit had the best chance of knocking them off.

oldbutnotdeadyet
01-04-2015, 06:48 PM
I think Dallas is going to present a real challenge to our defense next week.

Really? I sure wasn't impressed.

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:49 PM
Doesn't Romo have some tie to Wisc?

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 06:49 PM
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/mckeran-we-was-robbed-41x41cm-acrylic-on-canvas.jpg

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:49 PM
Does anybody believe the Panthers can give the Seahags a game next week? I thought Detroit had the best chance of knocking them off.

The Panthers won't score more than 10 points in that game...Seahawks should win with relative ease.

Maxie the Taxi
01-04-2015, 06:50 PM
He was born and raised in Burlington, I think.

oldbutnotdeadyet
01-04-2015, 06:50 PM
Doesn't Romo have some tie to Wisc?

Yes, as he will be getting his ass handed to him next week in Wisconsin.

Guiness
01-04-2015, 06:51 PM
All the Lions had to do was not lose - they had already won, they just had to not lose. And they lost.

And that was Chris Christie. What the heck is he doing there?

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 06:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6jAieJIIAErjPK.jpg

Rastak
01-04-2015, 06:52 PM
Yes, as he will be getting his ass handed to him next week in Wisconsin.


I meant current ties....obviously that's a hypothetical future tie.....

pittstang5
01-04-2015, 06:54 PM
Fuck it, bring it on Dallas!

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:54 PM
Did anyone here really believe that the Lions would win this game?

So next week we have a good game:

Dallas @ Green Bay.

and....

Carolina @ Seattle

Indy @ Denver

Baltimore @ New England.

Next weekend will be exciting.

pittstang5
01-04-2015, 06:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6jAieJIIAErjPK.jpg

He's a Dallas fan.

He pissed alot of NJ Resident Eagle fans off. he was in the booth with Jerry at the Dal/Philly game a few weeks ago.

Bossman641
01-04-2015, 06:58 PM
Does anybody believe the Panthers can give the Seahags a game next week? I thought Detroit had the best chance of knocking them off.

Nope, and then we will live through another week of hearing how great the Seattle D is while knocking off a shitty offense

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:58 PM
And that was Chris Christie. What the heck is he doing there?

Ensuring Jerruh's money is in his hip pocket during a presidential run.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 06:59 PM
The score 24-20 .... Dallas OVER Detroit.

That score fits the UNDER bet. I was wrong.

The last time that Dallas played in Green Bay in the playoff's was the 'Ice Bowl' game of 1967.

That's amazing to me.

King Friday
01-04-2015, 06:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6jAieJIIAErjPK.jpg

Ah...the money shot.

Striker
01-04-2015, 07:00 PM
The score 24-20 .... Dallas OVER Detroit.

That score fits the UNDER bet. I was wrong.

The last time that Dallas played in Green Bay was the 'Ice Bowl' game of 1967.

That's amazing to me.

I...I don't think you're quoting the right facts there.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 07:01 PM
All the Lions had to do was not lose - they had already won, they just had to not lose. And they lost.



Leading by 14 points in the 1st quarter ain't having a game won. In fact, "playing not to lose", aka, conservative football, is stupid as stupid is.

I stand by my arguement: Cadwell's conservative decision not to go for it on 4th and 1 in the Cowboys territory cost his team the game.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 07:03 PM
Ensuring Jerruh's money is in his hip pocket during a presidential run.

I would say if you are trying to get Republican nomination, being a Cowboys fan might be good for image.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 07:04 PM
Did anyone here really believe that the Lions would win this game?



I did.

They woulda won if they hadn't gotten conservative.

vince
01-04-2015, 07:05 PM
And that ref who picked up his flag on that PI late in the game is in line for a defense contract.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 07:05 PM
I...I don't think you're quoting the right facts there.

Correction:

Last time in the playoffs?

Agree?

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 07:06 PM
Btw, Garrett went for it TWICE on 4th down in the Lions' territory.

Unlike me, who wanted Detriot to win, the math is smiling.

Maxie the Taxi
01-04-2015, 07:07 PM
Forecast for GB is 9 degree for a high on Saturday and 21 degrees on Sunday.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 07:08 PM
Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27

The score 24-20 .... Dallas OVER Detroit.

That score fits the UNDER bet. I was wrong.

The last time that Dallas played in Green Bay ** in the playoffs ** was the 'Ice Bowl' game of 1967.

That's amazing to me.

**edit



I...I don't think you're quoting the right facts there.

Does my edit make it correct?

If it does I'm amazed that's the history for Dallas and Green Bay Matchups.

Teamcheez1
01-04-2015, 07:08 PM
Btw, Garrett went for it TWICE on 4th down in the Lions' territory.

Unlike me, who wanted Detriot to win, the math is smiling.

Would MM have gone for it in the same situation as Caldwell?

yetisnowman
01-04-2015, 07:08 PM
Yeah, a mistake Sherman made was not going for it on 4th and 1 in the 4th and 26 game.

Man I made the exact same comparison to my dad as we watched both games together. Almost same spot on the field and Sherman did that same pussy try to draw them off sides/delay of game/ punt combo.
What also kills me is how coaches rarely seem to factor risk vs reward and clock/yardage in that situation. Let me explain....
There was 8:00 left and u are at midfield. If you fail on 4th down Dallas can't run the clock completely down and beat you with a last second touchdown. Because of the short field and time left there would be a couple minutes left when u get the ball back regardless of whether Dallas ties it or takes the lead. Best case is you convert and keep driving and running the clock probably leading to more points and possibly icing the win. Risk vs reward says u certainly should go for it IMO.

Joemailman
01-04-2015, 07:10 PM
I think Dallas is going to present a real challenge to our defense next week.

That will work both ways.

Guiness
01-04-2015, 07:11 PM
Leading by 14 points in the 1st quarter ain't having a game won. In fact, "playing not to lose", aka, conservative football, is stupid as stupid is.

I stand by my arguement: Cadwell's conservative decision not to go for it on 4th and 1 in the Cowboys territory cost his team the game.

I'm not talking about that - more incredible to me was the Lions continually messing up on the Cowboys final TD drive. Witten faking the DB (LB?) out of his jock on 4th and 6. Defensive holding on 3rd down. The eternity Romo had on the TD pass itself. It was painful to watch, and I wasn't even really pulling for them.

woodbuck27
01-04-2015, 07:12 PM
And that ref who picked up his flag on that PI late in the game is in line for a defense contract.

I thought that Pettigrew was guilty of a face mask call.

I agree that whole thing was weird.

Remember the last time the Packers played in Dallas and the nonsense late in the game?

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 07:14 PM
Would MM have gone for it in the same situation as Caldwell?

Not sure, but he should.

Unless you're up 40 or have an elite defense or the other team has Brooks Bollinger at QB, playing conservatively-especially in the playoffs-is simply giving the other team an opportunity to win the game.

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 07:15 PM
Man I made the exact same comparison to my dad as we watched both games together. Almost same spot on the field and Sherman did that same pussy try to draw them off sides/delay of game/ punt combo.
What also kills me is how coaches rarely seem to factor risk vs reward and clock/yardage in that situation. Let me explain....
There was 8:00 left and u are at midfield. If you fail on 4th down Dallas can't run the clock completely down and beat you with a last second touchdown. Because of the short field and time left there would be a couple minutes left when u get the ball back regardless of whether Dallas ties it or takes the lead. Best case is you convert and keep driving and running the clock probably leading to more points and possibly icing the win. Risk vs reward says u certainly should go for it IMO.

Well said, new guy. :)

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 07:16 PM
I'm not talking about that - more incredible to me was the Lions continually messing up on the Cowboys final TD drive. Witten faking the DB (LB?) out of his jock on 4th and 6. Defensive holding on 3rd down. The eternity Romo had on the TD pass itself. It was painful to watch, and I wasn't even really pulling for them.

Your point is noted. :D

Striker
01-04-2015, 07:18 PM
Correction:

Last time in the playoffs?

Agree?

Yes, last time in the playoffs is correct.

pbmax
01-04-2015, 07:24 PM
Leading by 14 points in the 1st quarter ain't having a game won. In fact, "playing not to lose", aka, conservative football, is stupid as stupid is.

I stand by my arguement: Cadwell's conservative decision not to go for it on 4th and 1 in the Cowboys territory cost his team the game.

That or two fumbles and an INT.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 07:32 PM
That or two fumbles and an INT.

You know... Lions stuff.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 07:34 PM
Dallas is a better team. Still, an awful ending for cats

texaspackerbacker
01-04-2015, 07:34 PM
Christie being there is about Texas votes, not Jones money - Jerry is rich, but not really Texas oil rich.

I, for one, think Carolina has a decent chance in Seattle. An extend-the-play QB like Newton is one way to attack the Seattle D, and the Panthers D seems better than earlier in the season.

It's always traumatic for me when my second favorite team plays the Packers. I think the Packers D is marginally adequate to stop Murray, and Capers will confuse Romo enough to have him screw up - a little bit at least. And the Cowboys will have a very hard time stopping Rodgers and the Packers passing attack. It won't be 45-7 again, but it just might be something like 51-24 Packers.

Harlan Huckleby
01-04-2015, 07:36 PM
Christie being there is about Texas votes, not Jones money - Jerry is rich, but not really Texas oil rich.

I, for one, think Carolina has a decent chance in Seattle.

Are you a betting man?

Are you rich, or Texas oil rich?

Joemailman
01-04-2015, 07:39 PM
Christie being there is about Texas votes, not Jones money - Jerry is rich, but not really Texas oil rich.

Yeah, somebody must have reminded Christie that Texas has more delegates/electoral votes than Michigan.

denverYooper
01-04-2015, 07:42 PM
The most amusing part of the Christie in Jerryworld suite wasn't that he was there. There's not really a lot of surprise at that. Most of the jokes center around the awkward way that the celebration at the end unfolded. Jerry ignored his high 5 and then he half humped Jerry's hip once he was acknowledged.

Link to Vine:

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/4F6C57EB4F1163686871344582656_3654f2a24b3.1.5.2906 036414635377064.mp4?versionId=ebaIfOHmemqeZRUTCBKn FjFbWeaK0Ixp

All in all, while his very savvy social media campaign of the last several year has painted him as a bulldog, this makes him look more like a lapdog.

mraynrand
01-04-2015, 07:46 PM
NM :)

Tyrion Lannister
01-04-2015, 07:56 PM
NM :)

Guiness
01-04-2015, 08:22 PM
Take the Christie talk to FYI. I won't tolerate political discussion poisoning my football. Thanks.

Can we still talk about a fat guy in a red sweater that looks like it belongs at awkwardfamilyphotos.com ?

mraynrand
01-04-2015, 08:23 PM
Can we still talk about a fat guy in a red sweater that looks like it belongs at awkwardfamilyphotos.com ?

Lee Dreyfus?

http://images.publicradio.org/content/2008/01/03/20080103_leedreyfus_2.jpg

Joemailman
01-04-2015, 08:46 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MM11sXxtfB8/SYigDbYnztI/AAAAAAAACLE/xx7Q6krJzq0/s320/bob_knight_sweater.jpghttp://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-7d2f/k2-_ac1a5a50-18f1-4049-8bf7-b1152827ace8.v1.jpg

Freak Out
01-04-2015, 09:55 PM
The most amusing part of the Christie in Jerryworld suite wasn't that he was there. There's not really a lot of surprise at that. Most of the jokes center around the awkward way that the celebration at the end unfolded. Jerry ignored his high 5 and then he half humped Jerry's hip once he was acknowledged.

Link to Vine:

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/4F6C57EB4F1163686871344582656_3654f2a24b3.1.5.2906 036414635377064.mp4?versionId=ebaIfOHmemqeZRUTCBKn FjFbWeaK0Ixp

All in all, while his very savvy social media campaign of the last several year has painted him as a bulldog, this makes him look more like a lapdog.

For fucks sake...it's like they just won the SB. It was a Wild card game.

texaspackerbacker
01-04-2015, 11:56 PM
Are you a betting man?

Are you rich, or Texas oil rich?

I lost most of my empire in the divorce hahahaha.

I said I wouldn't bet on Carolina, but I wouldn't bet against them either. I don't see the Seahawks as quite as scary as last year, and I don't see the Panthers as quite as bad as their record.

woodbuck27
01-05-2015, 04:19 AM
Dallas is a better team. Still, an awful ending for cats

This morning Calvin Johnson awakes to this thought;

I'm never winning a Super Bowl ring with these cats.

woodbuck27
01-05-2015, 04:21 AM
Christie being there is about Texas votes, not Jones money - Jerry is rich, but not really Texas oil rich.

I, for one, think Carolina has a decent chance in Seattle. An extend-the-play QB like Newton is one way to attack the Seattle D, and the Panthers D seems better than earlier in the season.

It's always traumatic for me when my second favorite team plays the Packers. I think the Packers D is marginally adequate to stop Murray, and Capers will confuse Romo enough to have him screw up - a little bit at least. And the Cowboys will have a very hard time stopping Rodgers and the Packers passing attack. It won't be 45-7 again, but it just might be something like 51-24 Packers.

Whoops .... post edit to well ..... this !

woodbuck27
01-05-2015, 04:24 AM
The most amusing part of the Christie in Jerryworld suite wasn't that he was there. There's not really a lot of surprise at that. Most of the jokes center around the awkward way that the celebration at the end unfolded. Jerry ignored his high 5 and then he half humped Jerry's hip once he was acknowledged.

Link to Vine:

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/4F6C57EB4F1163686871344582656_3654f2a24b3.1.5.2906 036414635377064.mp4?versionId=ebaIfOHmemqeZRUTCBKn FjFbWeaK0Ixp

All in all, while his very savvy social media campaign of the last several year has painted him as a bulldog, this makes him look more like a lapdog.

S E X Y !

mraynrand
01-05-2015, 06:33 AM
I'm hoping that AJ Green (concussion) will be allowed to play.

wha?

Fritz
01-05-2015, 06:42 AM
The most amusing part of the Christie in Jerryworld suite wasn't that he was there. There's not really a lot of surprise at that. Most of the jokes center around the awkward way that the celebration at the end unfolded. Jerry ignored his high 5 and then he half humped Jerry's hip once he was acknowledged.

Link to Vine:

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/4F6C57EB4F1163686871344582656_3654f2a24b3.1.5.2906 036414635377064.mp4?versionId=ebaIfOHmemqeZRUTCBKn FjFbWeaK0Ixp

All in all, while his very savvy social media campaign of the last several year has painted him as a bulldog, this makes him look more like a lapdog.


He looks like the unpopular, awkward fat boy who just wants to hang out with the stupid yet popular jock boys, even if he has to suck their tubes to do it.

And I'm a liberal.

mraynrand
01-05-2015, 07:09 AM
Last edited by woodbuck27; 01-05-2015 at 07:54 AM.
fraud

pbmax
01-05-2015, 08:31 AM
Carolina celebrating a bit too hard.

http://t.co/9woaOZ73Ab

Rivera family unharmed in morning house fire (http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Rivera-family-unharmed-in-morning-house-fire-/dfe50510-d4ba-4f0f-a966-21e86bbe2cb9)

pbmax
01-05-2015, 10:31 AM
If Capers called this (Ravens did versus Steelers on 3rd and 4) it might be the last straw for wist's ticker.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2319173-mike-taniers-monday-morning-hangover-colts-cam-cowboys-conspiracy

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/article/media_slots/photos/001/904/875/61dfcef92c756b770d12dad866b8c891_crop_exact.jpg?w= 850&h=562&q=85

Tyrion Lannister
01-05-2015, 10:42 AM
NM :)

:lol:

woodbuck27
01-05-2015, 10:48 AM
pbmax:

The Packers have to watch out for the Romo to Whitten hip outside >>> route inside and catch 'shake'.

Cheesehead Craig
01-05-2015, 12:47 PM
If Capers called this (Ravens did versus Steelers on 3rd and 4) it might be the last straw for wist's ticker.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2319173-mike-taniers-monday-morning-hangover-colts-cam-cowboys-conspiracy

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/article/media_slots/photos/001/904/875/61dfcef92c756b770d12dad866b8c891_crop_exact.jpg?w= 850&h=562&q=85

That was one bizarre rush. I remember seeing that play and couldn't believe what I was seeing. It worked so therefore it was genius.

mraynrand
01-05-2015, 12:54 PM
pbmax:

The Packers have to watch out for the Romo to Whitten hip outside >>> route inside and catch 'shake'.

Is that the hip shake, babe?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVJUJxCQp0I

MadScientist
01-05-2015, 01:28 PM
That was one bizarre rush. I remember seeing that play and couldn't believe what I was seeing. It worked so therefore it was genius.

Crazy if the QB is mobile, but has possibilities against one that isn't a running threat. Still if the LT/LG block it right and the RB picks up his man there should be a good opportunity for the QB to step up and hit a pass, especially over the middle for 4+ yards. I'm guessing Pittsburgh hadn't seen this look on tape before leading to pressure too quick to do anything. In that vein, I hope Capers has several unscouted plays ready to go on Sunday that, even if they have flaws, will put Romo on is ass.

Harlan Huckleby
01-05-2015, 01:31 PM
Keep it real


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GrtkepD18Q

smuggler
01-05-2015, 01:38 PM
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/article/media_slots/photos/001/904/875/61dfcef92c756b770d12dad866b8c891_crop_exact.jpg?w= 850&h=562&q=85

If you know for a fact that the opposing team will be passing and, in all likelihood, not running a screen, this is a brilliant defense. It's essentially 11 v 9, as the right guard and center stand at watch the defensive tackle drop into coverage.

The obvious response would be to audible to a run right behind the center or in one of the gaps to either side of the center. A quick screen pitch to the running back would accomplish the same thing.

pbmax
01-05-2015, 06:34 PM
If you know for a fact that the opposing team will be passing and, in all likelihood, not running a screen, this is a brilliant defense. It's essentially 11 v 9, as the right guard and center stand at watch the defensive tackle drop into coverage.

The obvious response would be to audible to a run right behind the center or in one of the gaps to either side of the center. A quick screen pitch to the running back would accomplish the same thing.

That was Tanier's point. Tomlin and Haley kept running RBs out there like there was a plan (they freely substituted all 3 all game), but they were not going to use them in key situations at all. So 3rd and 4 was going to be a pass, come hell or high water.

This has been a criticism of both Tomlin (before Haley) and Haley, that if their preferred starting RB or a vet is not available, you can safely ignore the run. Especially if its a young RB. Their wunderkind RB Bell had to prove himself last year while sharing the job and not getting a lot of crucial carries (also because the run game last year was awful).