The Wild Card Weekend Thread

[woodbuck27]

First up:

Arizona @ Carolina

[woodbuck27]

Carolina forces a Three and out to start the game.

1st and 10 @ the Carolina 48 Yard Line.

Heat right off the bat !

The Panthers are playing very decent right now.

[woodbuck27]

Carolina forces a Three and out to start the game.

1st and 10 @ the Carolina 48 Yard Line.

Heat right off the bat !

The Panthers are playing very decent right now.

It begins Carolina 3 - Arizona 0.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I remember when Crosby was drafted. He was supposed to have a leg stronger than Superman's. Why can't he kickoff over the end zone like virtually every other kicker in the NFL?

[woodbuck27]

Yea the Carolina 'D' is back !

Another Three and out !

The Panthers have good field position again after a poor Arizona punt.

[Striker]

I must not understand why that one holding penalty will be the "most scrutinized" this post season.

[woodbuck27]

I remember when Crosby was drafted. He was supposed to have a leg stronger than Superman's. Why can't he kickoff over the end zone like virtually every other kicker in the NFL?

The Packers have to break down and hire Inga.

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[woodbuck27]

Jonathan Stewart has been very good late in this season.

10 - zip Carolina !

What will the Arizona 'no offense' so far do!?

[woodbuck27]

OK after a Carolina missed FG we have a decent game.

Carolina 10 - Arizona 7.

[denverYooper]

Just following along on twitter, the commentary makes this game sound like disasterpiece theater.

[pbmax]

Its not pretty. Carolina's O is just tripping over itself. And no one at ESPN has noticed Newton cannot throw a wet ball. He has been to the sidelines twice to dry his hands in the middle of a drive. His worst throw (out to right with wide open WR) just nosed into the turf because it slipped out of his hands.

His INT that has the Cardinals an inch from a TV was a bad route by his WR.

[pbmax]

Turnovers put Cards in the lead. They have no offense. Their punter can't hit one longer than 31 yards.

[denverYooper]

Its not pretty. Carolina's O is just tripping over itself. And no one at ESPN has noticed Newton cannot throw a wet ball. He has been to the sidelines twice to dry his hands in the middle of a drive. His worst throw (out to right with wide open WR) just nosed into the turf because it slipped out of his hands.

His INT that has the Cardinals an inch from a TV was a bad route by his WR.

Michael Schottey ‏@Schottey 7m7 minutes ago
It’s more of a stump. RT @JeromeSolomon: What route tree is Cotchery working off of?

[pbmax]

Keyshawn just said the Steelers will keep trying to run the ball no matter the yardage. Has he ever seen a Todd Haley game?

[Tyrion Lannister]

Touchdown Panthers!

[pbmax]

ESPN also doesn't know unexpectedly short punts that are wobbling are the toughest to catch. Like a knuckleball to a catcher who is running full speed.

[woodbuck27]

'Fuzzy' Whittaker 'with two 'T's'..... a 39 Yard reception and TD !

32 Carries all season for this almost unknown....till today !

They love him in Carolina.

Panthers 20 - Cardinals 14.

and the Panthers are right back with a TO deep in the Arizona Red Zone.

That suddenly set up a Cam Newton pass to Mike Tolbert. Two scores in under 2 minutes.

Panthers 27 - Cardinals 14.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Ginn just fumbled KO return. Panthers recover!

[pbmax]

Ginn just fumbled KO return. Panthers recover!

?

You mean that Carolina punt?

[esoxx]

What an absolute pussy shit call on that alleged PI in the end zone on 3rd down. Hands Carolina a TD they didn't deserve.

Sometimes I hate the NFL.

[Tyrion Lannister]

With Arizona's ineptitude at QB, this is game pretty much over.

I dunno whether to root for the Lions or the Cowboys trm. A Lions win means the Packers will have to face a brotha, which makes me nervous.

History shows that the only brotha the Packers have ever beaten in the playoffs was a WR playing QB named Joe Webb. Oh well, may this post jinx that farce.

[Tyrion Lannister]

?

You mean that Carolina punt?

Carolina scored then they kicked off and Ginn fumbled away the Cardinals season.

[Maxie the Taxi]

What an absolute pussy shit call on that alleged PI in the end zone on 3rd down. Hands Carolina a TD they didn't deserve.

Sometimes I hate the NFL.

Joke about it is, they could review every play like that on instant replay and they still wouldn't be able to get it right, because there is no standard. Plus, the games would last indefinitely.

[pbmax]

Carolina scored then they kicked off and Ginn fumbled away the Cardinals season.

Yeah, ny bad. Lost track. Had to reload ESPN's app.

No skycap today, the good production truck must still be in Pasadena.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Since when does QB intention matter whether it's a forward or backwards pass?

[Maxie the Taxi]

With Arizona's ineptitude at QB, this is game pretty much over.

I dunno whether to root for the Lions or the Cowboys trm. A Lions win means the Packers will have to face a brotha, which makes me nervous.

History shows that the only brotha the Packers have ever beaten in the playoffs was a WR playing QB named Joe Webb. Oh well, may this post jinx that farce.

Carolina's 3rd string QB is ...wait for it... Joe Webb.:whaa:

[esoxx]

Joke about it is, they could review every play like that on instant replay and they still wouldn't be able to get it right, because there is no standard. Plus, the games would last indefinitely.

The ball was uncatchable and having a hand on a shoulder pad had no bearing on the incompletion. Let the players decide the game not jerk-off refs that like to inject themselves into the outcome. Can't stand that.

[Maxie the Taxi]

The ball was uncatchable and having a hand on a shoulder pad had no bearing on the incompletion. Let the players decide the game not jerk-off refs that like to inject themselves into the outcome. Can't stand that.

You think they'll call 'em that close in Seattle?:-)

[Tyrion Lannister]

Jesus, Tebow could move this Cardinals offensive better than #14.

[pbmax]

Their game plan hasn't been helping. Run, run pass on 3rd and long. Arians is better than that.

Nornally.

[esoxx]

You think they'll call 'em that close in Seattle?:-)

I don't ever want to see something that ticky-tack called no matter who's playing.

As for Seattle, if the refs let the db's mug people, then the other team needs to adjust and go all grabby smurf on their receivers too.

[pbmax]

With Arizona's ineptitude at QB, this is game pretty much over.

I dunno whether to root for the Lions or the Cowboys trm. A Lions win means the Packers will have to face a brotha, which makes me nervous.

History shows that the only brotha the Packers have ever beaten in the playoffs was a WR playing QB named Joe Webb. Oh well, may this post jinx that farce.

I don't think Cam is his normal frisky self right now. There isn't a joint or bone he hasn't injured this year. Rodgers might be more mobile right now, even though 12 hasn't practiced.

[pbmax]

I don't ever want see something that ticky-tack called no matter who's playing.

As for Seattle, if the refs let the db's mug people, then the other team needs to adjust and go all grabby smurf on their receivers too.

And that is the problem, the NFL is handling pass defense calls like the NBA. It depends on who the home team is.

[pbmax]

Danger Guerrero ‏@DangerGuerrero 3m3 minutes ago
“The Code of Hammurabi, written in 1754 BC by the sixth Babylonian king of the same name, taught us that…” - Ed Hochuli calling holding

Brian Burke ‏@Adv_NFL_Stats 10m10 minutes ago
Live in-game playoff probabilities continue. CAR's prob of winning the SB up to 1% from 0%. http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/tools/live-playoff-probabilities …

[Tyrion Lannister]

Jesus, #14 just threw pick after the Newton fumble.

[pbmax]

So, is Carolina's D back, or is Arizona just this bad?

Carolina last four games have featured good D:


Week Day Date Opp Tm Opp
7 Sun October 19 @ Green Bay Packers 17 38
8 Sun October 26 Seattle Seahawks 9 13
9 Thu October 30 New Orleans Saints 10 28
10 Mon November 10 @ Philadelphia Eagles 21 45
11 Sun November 16 Atlanta Falcons 17 19
12 Bye Week
13 Sun November 30 @ Minnesota Vikings 13 31
14 Sun December 7 @ New Orleans Saints 41 10
15 Sun December 14 Tampa Bay Buccs 19 17
16 Sun December 21 Cleveland Browns 17 13
17 Sun December 28 @ Atlanta Falcons 34 3

[Tyrion Lannister]

I don't think Cam is his normal frisky self right now. There isn't a joint or bone he hasn't injured this year. Rodgers might be more mobile right now, even though 12 hasn't practiced.

He has a couple of nice runs in this game. Injured or not, Newton can still run, naturally.

The Packers walloped the Panthers in Wk 7, but regular season games mean shit in the playoffs. In 2004, the Packer swept the Vikings only to get mooned by Moss in the playoffs. Notoriously, they were led by a brotha at QB.

[pbmax]

He has a couple of nice runs in this game. Injured or not, Newton can still run, naturally.

The Packers walloped the Panthers in Wk 7, but regular season games mean shit in the playoffs. In 2004, the Packer swept the Vikings only to get mooned by Moss in the playoffs. Yep, they were led by a brotha at QB.

He has, but they had to ignore him to let him get free. He isn't outrunning anyone. His spy on the one run got lost.

[Tyrion Lannister]

I wonder if Ted would trade for Kuchley.

[pbmax]

I wonder if Ted would trade for Kuchley.

We would have won the Super Bowl already with Kuechly.

[channtheman]

So, is Carolina's D back, or is Arizona just this bad?

Carolina last four games have featured good D:


Week Day Date Opp Tm Opp
7 Sun October 19 @ Green Bay Packers 17 38
8 Sun October 26 Seattle Seahawks 9 13
9 Thu October 30 New Orleans Saints 10 28
10 Mon November 10 @ Philadelphia Eagles 21 45
11 Sun November 16 Atlanta Falcons 17 19
12 Bye Week
13 Sun November 30 @ Minnesota Vikings 13 31
14 Sun December 7 @ New Orleans Saints 41 10
15 Sun December 14 Tampa Bay Buccs 19 17
16 Sun December 21 Cleveland Browns 17 13
17 Sun December 28 @ Atlanta Falcons 34 3


Any argument about the Carolina D being back cannot include the game against Arizona as meaning anything. Ryan Lindley, Arizona's 3rd string QB, is just that bad. Seriously, this guy is terrible. I have had no confidence since Stanton went down, and I don't think AZ has won a game with him as a starter. It's shocking AZ scores any points at all, to be honest.

[woodbuck27]

He has a couple of nice runs in this game. Injured or not, Newton can still run, naturally.

The Packers walloped the Panthers in Wk 7, but regular season games mean shit in the playoffs. In 2004, the Packer swept the Vikings only to get mooned by Moss in the playoffs. Notoriously, they were led by a brotha at QB.

The Packers get Carolina if Detroit beats Dallas tomorrow.

[woodbuck27]

Any argument about the Carolina D being back cannot include the game against Arizona as meaning anything. Ryan Lindley, Arizona's 3rd string QB, is just that bad. Seriously, this guy is terrible. I have had no confidence since Stanton went down, and I don't think AZ has won a game with him as a starter. It's shocking AZ scores any points at all, to be honest.

Ryan Lindley doesn't seem to be an NFL QB from all I've observed of him.

[Tyrion Lannister]

We would have won the Super Bowl already with Kuechly.

Agreed.

Sometimes having a great ILB makes a defense, well, great.

The Bears with Urlacher. Ravens with Lewis. Look at the Gold Diggers D this season without their two-headed monsters.

Apparently, Ted Thompson seems to think Hawk and Jones are bona fide ILBers. The Polar Bear needs to acquire a hotshot ILB in the off-season.

[pbmax]

The lesson, as always, Roger and Jerry are nuts, go back to 5 playoff teams.

[pbmax]

Damn. They just showed Bernie/Byner Browns playoff woes, Horse Face celebrating then Favre after his Lambeau playoff INT versus the Giants and Coughlin's frozen red face celebrating. I am going to be sick.

[Tyrion Lannister]

I dunno 'bout y'all but the AFC North bores me.

[pbmax]

Agreed.

Sometimes having a great ILB makes a defense, well, great.

The Bears with Urlacher. Ravens with Lewis. Look at the Gold Diggers D this season without their two-head monsters.

Apparently, Ted Thompson seems to think Hawk and Jones are bona fide ILBers. The Polar Bear needs to acquire a hotshot ILB in the off-season.

You know what happens when you chase the one thing you need. You develop three other holes and have to pray the one guy works out.

Stay the course. And try to find three guys who might work better.

[pbmax]

OK. Five shots or more of Jim Harbaugh at this game and I am bailing. That is my limit.

[Tyrion Lannister]

You know what happens when you chase the one thing you need. You develop three other holes and have to pray the one guy works out.

Stay the course. And try to find three guys who might work better.

Not if the ILB can fill 4 holes.

The hotshot ILB plays the run so well, he single-handily forces opposing offenses to abandon the run. Consequently, offenses become one-dimensional. The hotshot ILB excels in coverage and is also an excellent blitzer.

It's Thompson job to find a hotshot ILB.

[pbmax]

Perfect example of TERRIBLE leverage on that tackle attempt on Brown on that pass. The DB should have wanted Brown to go inside where all the Raven help was. But he drove hard inside to cut him off by himself and gave up contain. Boom, first down on 3rd on 10 with a 3 yard route.

[pbmax]

Not if the ILB can fill 4 holes.

The hotshot ILB plays the run so well, he single-handily forces opposing offenses to abandon the run. Consequently, offenses become one-dimensional. The hotshot ILB excels in coverage and is also an excellent blitzer.

It's Thompson job to find a hotshot ILB.

One guy, four gaps huh? :lol:

[pbmax]

McClendon, Packers tried to sign him a year or two ago.

[pbmax]

That's two shots of Jimmy Harbaugh NBC. You have two more left til I bail.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Danny Shelton can fill four gaps. Shades of Gilbert Brown.

[Maxie the Taxi]

12 men on the special team defense of Pittsburgh field goal. Penalty gives them first down.

Anyone else seeing a trend in these playoffs so far regarding: poor special teams play costs games?

[pbmax]

12 men on the special team defense of Pittsburgh field goal. Penalty gives them first down.

Anyone else seeing a trend in these playoffs so far regarding: poor special teams play costs games?

Well that and 3rd string QBs an 3rd string DBs. But yes, no doubt.

Ravens still did force a FG.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Ryan Shazier is looking pretty good. Jason Worilds too. Both guys PackerRats were screaming for in the past. Not to mention CJ Mosley.

[mraynrand]

One guy, four gaps huh? :lol:

the Worilds is not enough

[pbmax]

Debating pass interference is not as exciting as an actual defensive struggle. These two games make me long for 13-10 games of the 1970s.

[pbmax]

Wow. That was the Guard equivalent of Kuhn's block on Peppers last year.

[esoxx]

Love the defensive struggle.

Unlike tank, I love me some AFC North.

Four cold weather cities playing outdoors. Only division that does so.

Snot bubblers galore. Love it.

[Jimx29]

Posted, just because


http://youtu.be/HQV4HISN5LI

[woodbuck27]

OK Big Ben >>> Antonio Brown for a long pass and short run (46yards) under review.

The Zebra's said his knee was down..so it's 1st and goal at the Baltimore 1/2 yard line.

Damn it...a Pittsburgh False Start .

and the Steelers do get a TOUCHDOWN !

A Ben Roth pass to M. Bryant.

They went for two and ...No !

Score Ravens 20 - Steelers 15.

A typical Raven - Steelers game. Tight and exciting !

[pbmax]

Love the defensive struggle.

Unlike tank, I love me some AFC North.

Four cold weather cities playing outdoors. Only division that does so.

Snot bubblers galore. Love it.

Is it a defensive struggle though? In first half the teams scored on 5 straight possessions.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Love the defensive struggle.

Unlike tank, I love me some AFC North.

Four cold weather cities playing outdoors. Only division that does so.

Snot bubblers galore. Love it.

In short, boring. :)

[Tyrion Lannister]

Could Baltimore be the 2014 version of the 2010 Packers?

Time will tell.

[pbmax]

Rusty Bruce Gradkowski > Concussed Ben Roethlisberger

I am very impressed the Refs sent Miller off as well. He was concussed going down and almost lost the ball before the hit the ground. Not stunned the Steelers sent him right back in.

Serious question: We have seen how Rodgers once concussed is no longer effective. Aren't the Steelers better off with Gradowski and Spaeth?

[pbmax]

Could Baltimore be the 2014 version of the 2010 Packers?

Time will tell.

Flacco's 3rd and 1 throw to the end zone looked like Rodgers/McCarthy.

[woodbuck27]

I really don't get it.

For the past three weeks the Ravens have sucked on offense and for some time the Steelers have looked like killers on offense at home.

Today the Ravens almost double up the Steelers.

Really you never know who's going to win. It's simply a best guess.

[mraynrand]

I really don't get it.

Le'Veon Bell

[mraynrand]

Aren't the Steelers better off with Gradowski and Spaeth?

yup

[Harlan Huckleby]

That Carolina - Arizona game was something else. I'm sure Seattle is quaking in their boots. Game had all the intensity of a third preseason game. How was Joel Stave eligible to start for Arizona?

[esoxx]

In short, boring. :)

Yes. If you have the attention span of a chipmunk.

[esoxx]

Is it a defensive struggle though? In first half the teams scored on 5 straight possessions.

In 2014-15 NFL, one TD at the half with a 13-9 score? Ahhh yes, defensive struggle of course.

[channtheman]

That Carolina - Arizona game was something else. I'm sure Seattle is quaking in their boots. Game had all the intensity of a third preseason game. How was Joel Stave eligible to start for Arizona?

:lol:

[smuggler]

SO. Now that this first NFC game is out of the way, what do you guys think about tomorrow game? Specifically, would you rather play Dallas or Carolina? I definitely feel like Detroit has a better chance against Seattle than Carolina, after watching today's game.

[pbmax]

In 2014-15 NFL, one TD at the half with a 13-9 score? Ahhh yes, defensive struggle of course.

Poor red zone offense. Neither defense is dominant. the Steelers have one offensive threat.

[pbmax]

SO. Now that this first NFC game is out of the way, what do you guys think about tomorrow game? Specifically, would you rather play Dallas or Carolina? I definitely feel like Detroit has a better chance against Seattle than Carolina, after watching today's game.

I don't know how to tease them apart. Detroit got spanked by Carolina early this season. Carolina is a bit healthier than they were versus Packer, but they looked awful versus the Cardinals good Defense.

[denverYooper]

BOOM!

[Striker]

Will it be good Andy or bad Andy today?

[woodbuck27]

That's the first time this season that the Colts scored a TD on an opening drive.

[denverYooper]

I don't know how to tease them apart. Detroit got spanked by Carolina early this season. Carolina is a bit healthier than they were versus Packer, but they looked awful versus the Cardinals good Defense.

Carolina's defense has been playing better lately, which made me think they might be dangerous in GB. Charles Johnson has had GB's line for lunch in the past and they have a better outside rush than Detroit. That's something that can get after the Packers offense.

After yesterday, though, I'm a lot less worried about Carolina. They're better than earlier this year but AZ's offense makes it impossible to say anything about an opponent's D. And Carolina's offense is very limited.

[Striker]

Carolina's defense has been playing better lately, which made me think they might be dangerous in GB. Charles Johnson has had GB's line for lunch in the past and they have a better outside rush than Detroit. That's something that can get after the Packers offense.

After yesterday, though, I'm a lot less worried about Carolina. They're better than earlier this year but AZ's offense makes it impossible to say anything about an opponent's D. And Carolina's offense is very limited.

Carolina hurt themselves a lot yesterday with the muffed punt and bad route that led to the INT.

The Seahawks/Panthers have played 3 one score games their last 3 meetings, though those have all been in Carolina. It'll be interesting to see how that goes next week.

[yetisnowman]

SO. Now that this first NFC game is out of the way, what do you guys think about tomorrow game? Specifically, would you rather play Dallas or Carolina? I definitely feel like Detroit has a better chance against Seattle than Carolina, after watching today's game.
Carolina played a team with an invalid at qb at home and won by 11 points. Arizona netted 78 yards total and their punter couldn't punt over 30 yards. Mind boggling, they should have lost by 40. I was not impressed with Carolina at all. Dallas has a legit team top to bottom. Go lions!

[denverYooper]

Dalton has thrown 2 dangerous balls so far. Jeez.

[denverYooper]

Dalton has thrown 2 dangerous balls so far. Jeez.

Then he hits a beauty over the LB to put the Bengals in scoring position. Lettin' 'er rip, I guess.

[denverYooper]

Doug Farrar retweeted
555 ‏@RudNec555 4m4 minutes ago
Qué incompetente es Phil Simms. No entiendo por que la CBS lo mantiene.

LOL!

[texaspackerbacker]

Dallas won't have any problem with the Lions. That will set up a situation I don't really like - my second favorite team coming to play my FAVORITE team. Oh well, at least one of them would be guaranteed to advance. I don't think Seattle is all that unbeatable. I'm not predicting Carolina will beat them, but I wouldn't be surprised by it.

Talk about shopping for an ILB to trade for, Dallas has several good ones this season, and Shawn Lee coming back next year. I'd look in that direction. I doubt Ted even considers a move of that sort, though.

[denverYooper]

Dallas won't have any problem with the Lions. That will set up a situation I don't really like - my second favorite team coming to play my FAVORITE team. Oh well, at least one of them would be guaranteed to advance. I don't think Seattle is all that unbeatable. I'm not predicting Carolina will beat them, but I wouldn't be surprised by it.

Talk about shopping for an ILB to trade for, Dallas has several good ones this season, and Shawn Lee coming back next year. I'd look in that direction. I doubt Ted even considers a move of that sort, though.

Think Dallas will keep Lee? He's been injured a lot.

[denverYooper]

Phil Simms just now: "Erik Walden #93 very disciplined and tough on the edge"

[texaspackerbacker]

Think Dallas will keep Lee? He's been injured a lot.

Yeah, but I think one of their decent ILBs could be had for a reasonable price, though - maybe Rolando McClain or Bruce Carter.

[Striker]

Dalton is going to kill the Bengals at some point.

[denverYooper]

Looked like Fleener got earholed.

[denverYooper]

Dalton is going to kill the Bengals at some point.

They need to get Hill going if they can... otherwise this too shall come to pass.

[denverYooper]

Stephen White ‏@sgw94 7m7 minutes ago
Dunlap has the rhythm now. He will keep getting the corner. They better start to chip him

[denverYooper]

Hell of a play by Luck. Damn.

[Guiness]

Think Dallas will keep Lee? He's been injured a lot.

Wow he is due a pile of money though, and a bunch of dead money if they move him. $5.5M against the cap this year, $10M dead money if he's cut. No way he goes anywhere this year.

[denverYooper]

Marvin Lewis about to be 0-6 in the playoffs.

[King Friday]

Marvin Lewis and Andy Dalton are both rather mediocre. The Bengals really had no chance in this one once both Gresham and Green were out.

[King Friday]

If you are betting folk...grab the UNDER in DET/DAL.

When the Lions defense has played run-heavy offenses recently, the average points scored in those game has been in the mid 30s. The o/u here is 48. The only way I see this getting over 48 is if we have a turnover-fest where the offenses are given a short field on numerous occasions. The Dallas offense late in the year has feasted on poor defenses...they aren't racking up 40 on Detroit.

[Guiness]

It seems to me that Detroit has more of a shot than we're giving them. If their front four can stop Murray and get a little pressure on Romo, and Stafford does what he can do, getting the ball to Johnson and Tate it'll be a game.

Just saw that Fairlay won't be playing though, that's a blow to the Lions.

[woodbuck27]

If you are betting folk...grab the UNDER in DET/DAL.

When the Lions defense has played run-heavy offenses recently, the average points scored in those game has been in the mid 30s. The o/u here is 48. The only way I see this getting over 48 is if we have a turnover-fest where the offenses are given a short field on numerous occasions. The Dallas offense late in the year has feasted on poor defenses...they aren't racking up 40 on Detroit.

This site has the O/U at 47.5.....why did it drop from 48?

57% are picking the OVER.

I'm expecting lots of offense in this game.

[King Friday]

This site has the O/U at 47.5.....why did it drop from 48?

57% are picking the OVER.

I'm expecting lots of offense in this game.

The fan betting almost always comes in on the over...and Dallas fanbase has a ton of people who love to throw money around.

The fact the number is going down at gametime is a sign the PRO BETS are going on the under.

[mraynrand]

Marvin Lewis about to be 0-6 in the playoffs.

How that guy has hung on so long is a total mystery to me

[vince]

This site has the O/U at 47.5.....why did it drop from 48?

57% are picking the OVER.

I'm expecting lots of offense in this game.
Anything can happen but why do you expect that?

Detroit's been pretty anemic on O this year and they have a top tier D...

[mraynrand]

It seems to me that Detroit has more of a shot than we're giving them. If their front four can stop Murray and get a little pressure on Romo, and Stafford does what he can do, getting the ball to Johnson and Tate it'll be a game.

Just saw that Fairlay won't be playing though, that's a blow to the Lions.

Dallas really depends on the run game. If they can't possess the ball for 35 minutes, Stafford can score plenty on their D, even with all his mechanical mistakes.

[King Friday]

How that guy has hung on so long is a total mystery to me

I think your answer lies in Bengal ownership...a truly clueless lot.

[Striker]

I think your answer lies in Bengal ownership...a truly clueless lot.

Because he probably looks really good compared to what they had before. That being said, his next losing season is probably his last.

[woodbuck27]

Anything can happen but why do you expect that?

Detroit's been pretty anemic on O this year and they have a top tier D...

Dallas scores 29.2 Points/game and allows 22 points/game. Detroit scores 20.1 Points/game.

The Romo to Dez Bryant connection has been ringing it up of late. I expect to see at least 4 TD's to Bryant and Calvin Johnson or 28 points.

That 'only leaves' 20 points and both teams will combine for that. Dallas must account for Golden Tate or there's a potential 2 TD's right there.

This game will be a high scoring affair.

There...Golden Tate just scored early in this game. It's 7-0 Detroit not even 4 minutes into the game.

[Striker]

And just like that...

[denverYooper]

Dallas really depends on the run game. If they can't possess the ball for 35 minutes, Stafford can score plenty on their D, even with all his mechanical mistakes.

See the first 2 series of the game so far.

[King Friday]

Romo is going to be dead by the end of this game...their run game isn't working, and he's going to be a sitting duck back there all day.

[denverYooper]

Detroit's D is just manhandling Dallas's vaunted OL so far.

[King Friday]

Detroit's D is just manhandling Dallas's vaunted OL so far.

Only goes to show why Rodgers earned the MVP.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Dallas won't have any problem with the Lions. That will set up a situation I don't really like - my second favorite team coming to play my FAVORITE team. Oh well, at least one of them would be guaranteed to advance. I don't think Seattle is all that unbeatable. I'm not predicting Carolina will beat them, but I wouldn't be surprised by it.

Talk about shopping for an ILB to trade for, Dallas has several good ones this season, and Shawn Lee coming back next year. I'd look in that direction. I doubt Ted even considers a move of that sort, though.

The Cowboys were my heroes after I sneaked into a theatre to watch Debbie Does Dallas.

I stopped being a Cowboys fan on September 20, 1992. On that day, the dark age in Green Bay died. A hard-drinking hillbilly named Billy Joe Favre replaced an injured Don WhatsHisName and...The rest is motherfucking history.

The Cowboys can suck my 12' wood.

[King Friday]

Dallas scores 29.2 Points/game and allows 22 points/game. Detroit scores 20.1 Points/game.

The Romo to Dez Bryant connection has been ringing it up of late. I expect to see at least 4 TD's to Bryant and Calvin Johnson or 28 points.

That 'only leaves' 20 points and both teams will combine for that. Dallas must account for Golden Tate or there's a potential 2 TD's right there.

This game will be a high scoring affair.

There...Golden Tate just scored early in this game. It's 7-0 Detroit not even 4 minutes into the game.

6+ passing TDs in this game? You do realize these QBs have just 1 playoff win between them in their careers, right?

[red]

looks like carolina is coming to town next week

[Maxie the Taxi]

looks like carolina is coming to town next week

Dallas specializes in coming from behind. (I know what you're thinking Red, don't even go there.)

[King Friday]

It looks like the Dallas defense is who we thought they were...horseshit.

I need some camera shots of Jerruh.

[woodbuck27]

Time for Dallas to get going.

Getting Reggie Bush going is a huge bonus f0r the Lions.

He's been not healthy (missing) for too many games.

[Guiness]

looks like carolina is coming to town next week

It sure does, oh hairy one.

Impressive drive by Detroit. Started with Dallas drawing a roughing the kicker penalty after trying to block a Detroit kicking out of the endzone.

side note: most useless stat ever: showing us the # of I20 punts when the guy is booting it out of the endzone. Context matter, boys!

[Tyrion Lannister]

looks like carolina is coming to town next week

Hold your high horse. I'm rooting for Detriot in this game, but game ain't over yet.

In a 2008 Wild Card game (2007 season), the Packers were down 14-Nothing in the 1st quarter before blowing out the Seagulls in a blizzard.

[denverYooper]

Dallas really depends on the run game. If they can't possess the ball for 35 minutes, Stafford can score plenty on their D, even with all his mechanical mistakes.

This keeps looking better and better and shows why Detroit might be the worst matchup for Dallas. It's strength on strength in the trenches and Detroit's DL is winning that matchup so far.

[woodbuck27]

Hold your high horse. I'm rooting for Detriot in this game, but game ain't over yet.

In a 2008 Wild Card game (2007 season), the Packers were down 14-Nothing in the 1st quarter before blowing out the Seagulls in a blizzard.

it's early !

[King Friday]

This keeps looking better and better and shows why Detroit might be the worst matchup for Dallas. It's strength on strength in the trenches and Detroit's DL is winning that matchup so far.

Detroit is also the worst matchup for Seattle...another good thing for us if the Lions can earn the upset.

[denverYooper]

Whoever is in charge of keeping track of Ziggy Ansah is doing a terrible job.

Nice play by Romo there, but he's getting abused.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Dallas specializes in coming from behind. (I know what you're thinking Red, don't even go there.)

lol

[King Friday]

Hold your high horse. I'm rooting for Detriot in this game, but game ain't over yet.

In a 2008 Wild Card game (2007 season), the Packers were down 14-Nothing in the 1st quarter before blowing out the Seagulls in a blizzard.

Are you predicting that Jerruh starts dropping snow from the rafters?

[red]

can the lions beat the seagals?

[Tyrion Lannister]

it's early !

The night is still young.

[King Friday]

can the lions beat the seagals?

The Seagals have no passing game. If you can contain Russell, you can easily beat the Hawks.

The Lions have the studs to contain Russell.

[denverYooper]

Are you predicting that Jerruh starts dropping snow from the rafters?

I bet he has access to that much coke.

[King Friday]

Sheesh...this Cowboy defense is G-A-R-B-A-G-E.

Looks like 2013 all over again.

[denverYooper]

I'm not going to lie. I'm enjoying watching the Lions pound the Cowboys so far.

[Guiness]

Stafford gaining some confidence and throwing the ball around some.

Well, ok. He followed that up by taking a sack that was entirely his fault then throwing one away.

[denverYooper]

Sheesh...this Cowboy defense is G-A-R-B-A-G-E.

Looks like 2013 all over again.

McCarthy owns them like the Friday night buffet at Ponderosa.

[King Friday]

I'm not going to lie. I'm enjoying watching the Lions pound the Cowboys so far.

Makes you give huge kudos to our OL...they really dominated the Lions DL. The "media-touted" Cowboy OL isn't holding up nearly as well.

[denverYooper]

Stafford gaining some confidence and throwing the ball around some.

Well, ok. He followed that up by taking a sack that was entirely his fault then throwing one away.

Yeah... plenty of time for Matt Cutler to show up. Although it helps him that Conservative Caldwell is his HC and they have a 2 score lead.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Are you predicting that Jerruh starts dropping snow from the rafters?

Jerruh? Probably not, but I noticed that the roof of Cowboys Stadium is open. Jehovah might just rain down snow. Southerners say that the hole on the roof of Texas Stadium was put there so that God could watch his team play.

[King Friday]

Stafford gaining some confidence and throwing the ball around some.

Well, ok. He followed that up by taking a sack that was entirely his fault then throwing one away.

Detroit needs to stop the 50 yard bombs. They can kill the Boys with just a short passing game.

[denverYooper]

Makes you give huge kudos to our OL...they really dominated the Lions DL. The "media-touted" Cowboy OL isn't holding up nearly as well.

Yeah, that has a lot to do with it.

[red]

i'd say romo might have missed an adjustment there

[denverYooper]

Troy 'splaining that Detroit's defense lost last week because they didn't play very well. But they showed up and started tackling this week.

Or maybe it's because Rodgers >> Romo and GB's OL is pretty good too...

[Tyrion Lannister]

Detriot is playing like there's no tomorrow.

All around me are familiar faces/Worn out places, worn out faces...

[denverYooper]

It's good to see the Lions can still try to torpedo themselves.

[woodbuck27]

This game is going fast.

My second thought:

Is Dallas going to lay a stinker @ home?

[red]

Troy 'splaining that Detroit's defense lost last week because they didn't play very well. But they showed up and started tackling this week.

Or maybe it's because Rodgers >> Romo and GB's OL is pretty good too...

didnt he also blame it on "all the moisture" last week just a few minutes ago?

i know troy doesn't spend much time in the north, but its dry as fuck up here

[Tyrion Lannister]

Troy 'splaining that Detroit's defense lost last week because they didn't play very well. But they showed up and started tackling this week.

Or maybe it's because Rodgers >> Romo and GB's OL is pretty good too...

Quit hatin' Aikman and Buck. They're good.

Aikman was just keepin' it real. Detriot D is better on turf than on grass, even though Lambeau Field is half plastic.

[denverYooper]

didnt he also blame it on "all the moisture" last week just a few minutes ago?

i know troy doesn't spend much time in the north, but its dry as fuck up here

Yeah, he's spent a lot of time making sadsack excuses today for Dallas's pallid O to this point.

On the first series he mentioned that the "even though the Cowboys OL is known for their run blocking, their pass pro might be even better"

Yeah.

[Tyrion Lannister]

This game is going fast.

My second thought:

Is Dallas going to lay a stinker @ home?

Time speeds up when you're simultaneously watching the game and participating in a thread about the game. :)

[Striker]

Yeah, he's spent a lot of time making sadsack excuses today for Dallas's pallid O to this point.

On the first series he mentioned that the "even though the Cowboys OL is known for their run blocking, their pass pro might be even better"

Yeah.

The joys of former players as color guys.

[denverYooper]

Quit hatin' Aikman and Buck. They're good.

Aikman was just keepin' it real. Detriot D is better on turf than on grass, even though Lambeau Field is half plastic.

I agree about the turf/grass divide. I still think GB's pass pro unit is closer to (maybe better than) Dallas's than the media acknowledge.

[Guiness]

The joys of former players as color guys.

Not to mention, colour guy for a game involving his former team, with which he won multiple SBs...

[red]

well, detroit looked slow and pathetic there

[Striker]

Lots of bad angles there.

[woodbuck27]

That was huge for Dallas.

A look at him don't tackle him TD for Williams. :whaa:

That looked a little weird.

14-7 Detroit with 1:37 remaining in the 1st half.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Empire any good? Anyone a fan of the show?

[denverYooper]

Still time for Stafford to take points off the board.

Which one shows up here?

[Rastak]

Empire any good? Anyone a fan of the show?


WTF is empire?

[Tyrion Lannister]

WTF is empire?

A musical on Fox, I believe. They've been advertising it nonstop. Must be good.

[denverYooper]

Still time for Stafford to take points off the board.

Which one shows up here?

Well he tried... now Caldwell's pulling the plug on the game of "I can squeeze it in there".

[Guiness]

Still time for Stafford to take points off the board.

Which one shows up here?

Close to a pick on that last play, would of cost them 3 points. They have NO confidence in the kicking game, and rightfully so, they were lucky to even get that one off.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Low snap. Holder shoulda kept ball, run out of pocket and throw ball away.

Kick is good, so all is moot.

[pbmax]

How that guy has hung on so long is a total mystery to me

For the Bengals, he is a success.

[Rastak]

A musical on Fox, I believe. They've been advertising it nonstop. Must be good.


Must be my natural defenses that helped me not notice.

[woodbuck27]

17-7 Detroit at the half:

This surprizes me:

Dez Bryant 1 reception for 2 yards.

Look out !

[Rastak]

This surprizes me:

Dez Bryant 1 reception for 2 yards.

Look out !


Dumb fucking Lions needed this a week earlier......which also points out how good GB is I guess.

[Striker]

17-7 Detroit at the half:

This surprizes me:

Dez Bryant 1 reception for 2 yards.

Look out !

Detroit has done well vs. #1 WRs this year.

[Joemailman]

Dallas in my opinion has the worst defense of the 6 NFC playoff teams. As the Packers found out in 2011, that can be a dangerous thing. Still, I think Dallas still has a chance if they can avoid falling behind by more than 2 scores.

[King Friday]

Dallas in my opinion has the worst defense of the 6 NFC playoff teams. As the Packers found out in 2011, that can be a dangerous thing. Still, I think Dallas still has a chance if they can avoid falling behind by more than 2 scores.

I don't think they can give up more than a TD. I can't see Detroit giving up 17+ points in the 2nd half.

[denverYooper]

Detroit has done well vs. #1 WRs this year.

Yup. They have the #2 defense. They've done a pretty good job against most teams.

[pbmax]

Phil Simms just now: "Erik Walden #93 very disciplined and tough on the edge"

Walden could do that. Problem was he also doesn't do that at times. Given Matthews over pursuit, it was a deadly combination.

[denverYooper]

I don't think they can give up more than a TD. I can't see Detroit giving up 17+ points in the 2nd half.

Don't count Stafford out just yet ;).

[denverYooper]

See?

[pbmax]

I am thoroughly enjoying the Cowboys in process of being upset regardless of effect on playoffs.

[pbmax]

Spoke too soon.

[King Friday]

There is the Stafford we all know and love.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Shit, pick to start 2nd half.

[Tyrion Lannister]

There is the Stafford we all know and love.

I dont think that was a Cutler pick. Ball was tipped.

[denverYooper]

Is that like 9 sacks for Ansah now?

[King Friday]

And there is the Romo we all know and love...holding the ball for 20 seconds and taking a sack.

[denverYooper]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Guiness]

Is that like 9 sacks for Ansah now?

someone mentioned earlier that he was running free

[pbmax]

What percentage of Romo's success is Wittten and Bryant? Does the fact that he made it work with Miles Austin mean he is actually very good?

[King Friday]

I think the Cowboys hopes of winning perhaps just ended right there. They had a surge of momentum...and then took a huge shit in their pants.

[denverYooper]

And there is the Romo we all know and love...holding the ball for 20 seconds and taking a sack.

And the Cowboys following him in the choke job. Missed FG.

[pbmax]

Holy crap is Joe Montana old.

[King Friday]

What percentage of Romo's success is Wittten and Bryant? Does the fact that he made it work with Miles Austin mean he is actually very good?

What success? You mean winning regular season games?

[woodbuck27]

Holy crap ! Romo gets sacked with loads of time to make a pass or throw it away.

Dan Bailey misses a FG from 41 yards out.

Dallas doesn't deserve to win this game now.

[pbmax]

I wonder who takes more heat after this game, running game coordinator Callahan or passing game coordinator Linehan?

[pbmax]

What success? You mean winning regular season games?

Playoff games are not all QB, just as comebacks are not all QB either.

He is good, I just don't know if its barely above average or slightly below franchise.

[denverYooper]

What percentage of Romo's success is Wittten and Bryant? Does the fact that he made it work with Miles Austin mean he is actually very good?

I don't know but this Cowboys breakdown reminds me of every GB playoff loss over the past few years -- if you beat on their offense, they're pretty well screwed.

[King Friday]

I wonder who takes more heat after this game, running game coordinator Callahan or passing game coordinator Linehan?

Jerruh's Depends are going to take the most heat.

[pbmax]

Is that like 9 sacks for Ansah now?

Is he going against RT Free or LT Smith?

[Harlan Huckleby]

When something good happens for Lions, Troy dejectedly complains about Dallas players.
When Dallas does well, his voice pitch rises an octave and he yells excitedly into mic.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Is Fairley playing?

[denverYooper]

I wonder who takes more heat after this game, running game coordinator Callahan or passing game coordinator Linehan?

Depends on which Johnny Walker Jerrah is into tonight.

I heard he likes the Blue but if he gets into the Green, watch out.

[Tyrion Lannister]

As someone mentioned earlier, Detriot is a bad matchup for Seattle.

Detriot has a D that can stop the run, receivers that can get open and a QB that's NOT afraid to take chances.

All is moot if they cannot get past Dallas.

[pbmax]

Is Farley playing?

Nope.

In any case, here's the full list of inactives for the Lions:

QB Kellen Moore
WR Ryan Broyles
OG Larry Warford
DE Larry Webster
DT Nick Fairley
DT Caraun Reid
CB Josh Thomas

And here are the Cowboys' inactives:

QB Dustin Vaughan
OT Doug Free
OT Donald Hawkins
DE Kenneth Boatright
LB James Anderson
LB Keith Smith
S Jakar Hamilton

[denverYooper]

Is he going against RT Free or LT Smith?

Don't know the snaps, but I"m pretty sure he's come from both edges a few times each.

[King Friday]

Playoff games are not all QB, just as comebacks are not all QB either.

He is good, I just don't know if its barely above average or slightly below franchise.

IMO, Romo during the bulk of his career was a franchise-caliber QB. To me, any QB who is one of the top 8 in the league is a franchise-caliber QB.

As you point out, the Cowboys biggest issues have been defensively over the bulk of the last 2 decades. However, Romo has played poorly in the postseason too. He's not a guy that steps up his game in the postseason...and that is a knock against him.

[King Friday]

When Dallas does well, his voice pitch rises an octave and he yells excitedly into mic.

Perhaps he's not THAT impartial...maybe Buck is just stroking his cock?

[Harlan Huckleby]

ok, thanks

hope he plays next week

[pbmax]

Callahan has found a run defense glitch.

[Harlan Huckleby]

why do I think Detroit is gonna blow this?

[King Friday]

why do I think Detroit is gonna blow this?

Because you are normally wrong?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Perhaps he's not THAT impartial...maybe Buck is just stroking his cock?

"I'm Joe, this is little Troy"

[Striker]

A linebacker on Dez Bryant. Seems like a good idea.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Troy's voice just went up an octave

[Tyrion Lannister]

Shit, Wisconsin's own Levy just turned into AJ Hawk and missed a crucial tackle.

[pbmax]

Cowboys have adjusted.

[King Friday]

Cowboys have adjusted.

They still need to get INTO the endzone...and still need to find a way to keep Detroit from moving the ball too.

[Tyrion Lannister]

why do I think Detroit is gonna blow this?

Romo's trying to keep it close so he can choke in the clutch.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Suh is a beast

[pbmax]

Gutsy call.

[pbmax]

Suh destroyed Zach Davis on third down and Boys wisely went wide.

[denverYooper]

Suh destroyed Zach Davis on third down and Boys wisely went wide.

Suh was on 1 leg in that play, too. Still put his foot back down to make the play.

That was a good call on 4th down to get out wide.

[Rastak]

What success? You mean winning regular season games?


A requirement for getting to the post season.

[woodbuck27]

Now we have a game. The score is Detroit 20 - Dallas 14 after that Demarco Murray rushing TD on 4th down.

2:54 remains in the 3rd Qtr.

Did some of you forget this is the Detroit Lions playing in Dallas?

[denverYooper]

Those might have been the best 2 downs of the playoffs so far. Strength on strength with 1 yard on 3rd/4th down.

[Harlan Huckleby]

No way Bush gets first down there

[denverYooper]

Turrible decision by Stafford there.

[King Friday]

Calvin Johnson has been very silent.

[denverYooper]

In other news, I've somehow been left alone to watch 3 quarters so far of the best playoff game this weekend. That almost never happens and I'm almost always chasing kids while trying to watch the Packers game.

[Rastak]

In other news, I've somehow been left alone to watch 3 quarters so far of the best playoff game this weekend. That almost never happens and I'm almost always chasing kids while trying to watch the Packers game.


Nice....I chased kid in the 80's....not since as she grew up. :glug:

[Harlan Huckleby]

SAme ole Lions

[denverYooper]

More questions about concussions in the playoffs.

Bill Barnwell ‏@billbarnwell 6m6 minutes ago
How can Pettigrew be questionable to return with a concussion?

[Rastak]

He hit the guy as he caught it with his shoulder...did he need to go for the knees?

[King Friday]

Same ole Romo

[King Friday]

LMAO

Romo just took them entirely out of "good" FG range.

What a fucktard.

[Rastak]

A boy named Suh......(what an asshole).

[Rastak]

Oops!

[woodbuck27]

Nice FG fro Dan Bailey but Tony Romo has to cut it loose.

it's a 3 point game.... Detroit 20 - Dallas 17.

[denverYooper]

Nice....I chased kid in the 80's....not since as she grew up. :glug:

Mine are 2 (almost 3) and 5 right now :).

[Tyrion Lannister]

Back 2 back sacks by Suh.

And some Packers fans are still mad the guy's suspension got overturned.

I think 70 K is just penalty. Rodgers didn't get injured on that cheapie, so I'm fine with the fine.

[King Friday]

That missed FG after the INT early in 3Q is going to haunt the Boys.

[Rastak]

Mine are 2 (almost 3) and 5 right now :).


That's some chasing.....

[Striker]

Good old Ross.

[pbmax]

He hit the guy as he caught it with his shoulder...did he need to go for the knees?

Chest? Waist? Groin? Hug?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Lions need a TD this drive to pull the win

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

This 2nd half looks like Detroit has given up.

[pittstang5]

I'm so confused. who do I root for?

[Rastak]

More questions about concussions in the playoffs.

Bill Barnwell ‏@billbarnwell 6m6 minutes ago
How can Pettigrew be questionable to return with a concussion?


Same questions in the regular season too.

[Harlan Huckleby]

why do Lions run on first down?

[Rastak]

Chest? Waist? Groin? Hug?

He was alot taller than the dude...not so easy in a band bang play.

[pbmax]

Get Bush out of there.

[Rastak]

I'm so confused. who do I root for?


Do like me and just hope for a good game.

[pbmax]

He was alot taller than the dude...not so easy in a band bang play.

Hug then. He leaned forward and tilted his head into him.

[denverYooper]

Good old Ross.

I thought the same.