Official Packers - Seahawks Game Thread 1/18/15

[pittstang5]

gotta get the first or some more yards, at least

[ThunderDan]

Come on guys, let's get a TD not a FG.

[Teamcheez1]

That drive ended poorly.

[pittstang5]

garage failed us folks. Seattle recovered the onside kick while out there. Sorry guys, i tried.

[Rutnstrut]

Why the fuck haven't they been going right at Sherman since he's been hurt?

[Bretsky]

DAMMIT

We are going to rely on a 50yr field goal. This terrifies me. Mason....one of the best....make or miss

[ThunderDan]

That's get this to OT.

[pbmax]

Tie game.

[Rastak]

He nailed that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

crosby getts gameball

[Teamcheez1]

Can our defense regroup in the OT?

[pbmax]

garage failed us folks. Seattle recovered the onside kick while out there. Sorry guys, i tried.

Only having Bostick out there woulda helped.

[ThunderDan]

Excellent, way to big deep and tie it up.

[woodbuck27]

Get a load of Richard Sherman on the tackle of Jordy nelson.

He tackles great with one arm.

OK this game is now tied:

Score 22 ALL.....:14 remains on the clock.

Why the TO? MM??

[Harlan Huckleby]

A clean game on specials and this game is wrapped up already

1 more big play from o or d and game over too

O, D and ST all clenched

[Rutnstrut]

Then stubby calls a TO, what a brilliant coach.

[ThunderDan]

Don't relax here D.

[red]

ah fuck

[Harlan Huckleby]

Seattle got a lot of lucky bounces to get back in game

[ThunderDan]

1 more big play from o or d and game over too

O, D and ST all clenched

This is completely on the ST today. It should be 22-7.

[Harlan Huckleby]

pack too legit to quit

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is completely on the ST today. It should be 22-7.

That's funny - I saw both O and D blow it in 4th quarter.

[Rastak]

Vikings West send out T-Jack.......

[Teamcheez1]

Even if we get the ball first, Seattle will get another crack at it, because all we kick is FG's.

[woodbuck27]

GO PACK GO !

The game is going to OT.

SCORE: Packers 22 - Seattle 22.

Seattle wins the coin toss and will receive the ball.

[Jimx29]

someone please explain to me why the fuck burnett sat down on that interception?

[pittstang5]

just delaying the inevitable. wish we would have lost in regular time.

[Bossman641]

Cannot believe HHCD didn't knock down the 2 point try

[pbmax]

Dammit.

[red]

jesus christ, the nfl overtime rules have to be the worst in history of everything

[Rutnstrut]

Who the fuck calls tails??????

[ThunderDan]

That's funny - I saw both O and D blow it in 4th quarter.

Yep, the O and Ad have made mistakes. The ST hemmoraged points today.

[Packers4Glory]

Fluke. Onside kick followed by a Ha hafail mary on the 2pt

[Rastak]

Who the fuck calls tails??????


Usually tails never fails.

[red]

Cannot believe HHCD didn't knock down the 2 point try

or that bostick had the ball hit him in the face

or we didn't go for it at least once from the one in the beginning of the game

[Packgator]

The goal posts looked 3 feet wide to me on that last FG.

[Harlan Huckleby]

just delaying the inevitable. wish we would have lost in regular time.

i dare you to turn off tv. double dare ya

[denverYooper]

OMG.

We're going to win.

[ThunderDan]

My son had a dream last night that it was 24-24 and in OT and ARod hits Jordy for 45 and a TD.

[Rutnstrut]

someone please explain to me why the fuck burnett sat down on that interception?

He has money on Seattle.

[pbmax]

jesus christ, the nfl overtime rules have to be the worst in history of everything

Fortunately, losing the coin flip is no longer a death sentence.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Seattle got a lot of lucky bounces to get back in game

Not buying it, Harlan. We had plenty of opportunities and blew them. You said it yourself, we got conservative on both offense and defense. That possession after Burnett's interception was the killer.

[Packers4Glory]

someone please explain to me why the fuck burnett sat down on that interception?

Terrible awareness

[Bretsky]

Then stubby calls a TO, what a brilliant coach.

It sucks to win multiple divisional titles in a row; I'd hate that

[Bossman641]

I'm having a heart attack over here

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yep, the O and Ad have made mistakes. The ST hemmoraged points today.

FG team = special team. you want to take this outside?

[pittstang5]

so if Seattle gets a FG, we get the ball and do nothing. is the game over. I don't remember.

[Packgator]

My son had a dream last night that it was 24-24 and in OT and ARod hits Jordy for 45 and a TD.

I hope he's a prophet.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm having a heart attack over here
walk towards the light

[Bretsky]

1 more big play from o or d and game over too

O, D and ST all clenched

regardless of what happens our defense played a GREAT game

No way should Seattle have 11 of those points

[woodbuck27]

Boykin is still looking for work after this season.

That .......... or glasses.

[Bretsky]

This is completely on the ST today. It should be 22-7.

THIS

[Harlan Huckleby]

Not buying it, Harlan. We had plenty of opportunities and blew them. You said it yourself, we got conservative on both offense and defense. That possession after Burnett's interception was the killer.

I don't diagree. both luck and anal puckering involved

[Teamcheez1]

The defense is lost.

[Rastak]

so if Seattle gets a FG, we get the ball and do nothing. is the game over. I don't remember.


Yup.

[woodbuck27]

regardless of what happens our defense played a GREAT game

No way should Seattle have 11 of those points

I'm proud of the way the Packers played today on defense...not offense.

[Bretsky]

Cannot believe HHCD didn't knock down the 2 point try

mind boggling

[Harlan Huckleby]

THIS

I'll take on both you & your butt boy dan. Lets dance

[Packgator]

someone please explain to me why the fuck burnett sat down on that interception?

I'll never understand that. He could have scored!!

[ThunderDan]

Go stop D. Let's get the stop on 3rd.

[pittstang5]

gonna be a shitty offseason, this game is already burned into my memory.

[pbmax]

Hayward lost him

[pittstang5]

can't let that happen on 3rd down

[Rastak]

I'll never understand that. He could have scored!!


I guess he thought he sealed it.

[ThunderDan]

That looked like last week against CAR.

[Teamcheez1]

How you let somebody run by you on that I have no idea.

[Rutnstrut]

It sucks to win multiple divisional titles in a row; I'd hate that

If you are one of the sheeple that's happy the status quo, then that's good enough for you.

[Bretsky]

TERRIBLE

[Jimx29]

I'll never understand that. He could have scored!!
looked pretty fucking wide open to me. a least no one was within 25yds of him.....idiot

[pbmax]

Unbelievable.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Shame.

[ThunderDan]

This sucks!

Fire Slocum now!

[Teamcheez1]

Unbelievable. Total team collapse.

I hope AR enjoys picking up his MVP trophy after a poor effort like that.

[red]

total coaching and team fail

i have never watched a more pathetic gamei n my life other then what the defense did for the first 3 quarters

[denverYooper]

Wow.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Seattle BEAT pack

[Rastak]

I know this feeling, punch in the gut 2009.

[mmmdk]

A prevent offense should always be punished. Insulting playcalling by coach[es] and insulting execution by offense. Defense bled today and deserves credit. That coaching staff needs an overhaul. And f@ck the state of Florida.

[Rutnstrut]

Wohoo, let's extend Capers he's a defensive mastermind.

[mr_blonde]

EPIC FAIL.
EPIC.

[ThunderDan]

This sucks!

Fire Slocum now!

I mean literal, don't let him on the plane.

[red]

HOW IS THERE NO FUCKING SAFETY HELP?????

[Maxie the Taxi]

This game will live in infamy. Stubby blew it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Unbelievable. Total team collapse.

yep

[Bretsky]

WTF was Sean Richardson doing just standing there like a deer in headlights
No surprise here

SLOCUM is the motherload of all fuckups

If MM can't see that after the past few year and today he's an idiot

[ThunderDan]

Great the dumb fuck Packer "fans" are back.

[mraynrand]

Pack shut it down too early

[Harlan Huckleby]

This game will live in infamy. Stubby blew it.

I agree, but whole team collapsed. Seattle was lucky and very tough

[Rastak]

You guys kicked their ass up and down the field for most of it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Pack shut it down too early

ding ding ding

[mraynrand]

Worse than the Giants loss, because the Pack was the better team

[Harlan Huckleby]

Russell Wilson says God on Seattle side. maybe so, maybe so

[red]

clean the fucking staff

AND FIRE FUCKING BOSTICK ASAP, don't even let him go home with the team. send the message that that shit IS NOT FUCKING ACCEPTABLE

YOUU HAD THE WIN AND YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS PISSED IT ALL AWAY

GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS

PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[woodbuck27]

What a perfect throw Wilson to Doug Baldwin.

Then a TD pass Wilson to Jermaine Kearse and this game is over ! Seattle is going back to the Super Bowl.

Russell Wilson finishes as he usually does. . . .on top. His payday is awaiting.

The Packers defense almost did it. The Packers offense didn't play well today.

FINAL SCORE:

Seattle 28 - Green Bay 22.

This one is painful.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I agree, but whole team collapsed. Seattle was lucky and very tough

Nope, not buying this either. It was a coaching fail. No way we lose this game if we play smart. One first down and we win. We let their punter throw a TD for gods sake.

[Rutnstrut]

Great the dumb fuck Packer "fans" are back.

How do you not drown on the Kool-Aid?

[red]

Pack shut it down too early

yup, we started playing prevent and the offense never played today to win

and the special teams completely fucked us, except for crosby, like usual

[mraynrand]

Second time in row had SB tickets lined up in AZ and Pack blows it

[denverYooper]

That was amazingly awful.

[Maxie the Taxi]

You guys kicked their ass up and down the field for most of it.

Yup, and then Stubby tucked his head inside the turtle shell and the game was lost.

[Fosco33]

Packers deserved to win the game. Too many chances. Brandon bostik.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I hate these type of games, we had the game in hand and just fucked it away...

[mraynrand]

yup, we started playing prevent and the offense never played today to win

and the special teams completely fucked us, except for crosby, like usual

Hawk shoulda stayed with the receiver. The fourth down fake FG was born of desperation.

[Bossman641]

Does this top the TO catch after the Rice fumble, 4th and 26, and the OT Giants loss as the worst loss ever? I'm sick

[Fosco33]

How do you throw 4 picks and win.

[mmmdk]

Russell Wilson says God on Seattle side. maybe so, maybe so

No. This is a football site and there is no god.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Does this top the TO catch after the Rice fumble, 4th and 26, and the OT Giants loss as the worst loss ever? I'm sick

Worst loss I've ever witnessed.

[vince]

oh my fucking god. Brandon fucking Bostick. He's not even supposed to be going after the high onside. That's 100% Jordy's ball. Get the fuck out of the way Bostick and hit somebody so Jordy can get the easy onside catch. Unfuckingbelievable. Biggest fuck-up in the history of NFC Championships. We had the fucking Super Bowl in firmly in our grasp. It's fucking surreal.

Great game by the defense. Historic for most of the game, but what the fuck was Matthews doing on the sideline those last few drives.

I can almost remember the fucking fake field goal but I'm not even sure if that happened. What did the D have 5 turnovers?

[Jimx29]

Losing isn't bad...comparatively....but beating yourself is what kills me. Slocums special teams has fucked up all year long, yet HE still has a job, and as per the past couple years, he'll get lit up for a couple weeks in the press and online, and next thing ya know he's right back on the sidelines next year.

[vince]

Worst loss I've ever witnessed.
There's been some doozies and this one takes the cake ten times over.

[Bretsky]

Morgan Burnett...that INT ......if you look at the play the LB kind of motions for him to just go down. He had room to run. It was stupid to ground an INT with 5 minutes left.

Our defense was outstanding for 3 quarters. Green Bay should have given up 11 points in this game.

Giving up a touchdown on a fake field goal is just another one of the long lines of special team fuck ups we are used to.

Add on an onside kick to the special teams fuckup and Green Bay should ship Slocum to the North Pole and never let him come back.

The offense had chances to put this one away and did not get it done. The defense could have put it away too but should never have been put in that spot if not for the expected failures at ST

With two minutes left my daughter asked if we were gong to win; I let her know it's too early to know at this point and I could not tell her.

When you have Shawn Slocum the game is never safe

[mraynrand]

There are at least 60,000 little things the packers could have done differently, any one of which would have won the game. I can't even fathom how the wind blew that desperation 2-point conversion duck away from Clinton-Dix.

[Rutnstrut]

I bet stubby is a load of fun at a casino.

[Rastak]

No. This is a football site and there is no god.


True, I've never heard of a football site god......

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hawk shoulda stayed with the receiver. The fourth down fake FG was born of desperation.

I agree, total bonehead play. Aikman gave him a pass, but Hawk should know not to let reciever run free

[pbmax]

Pack shut it down too early

Yep. Any word on why Matthews was sidelined?

[mraynrand]

Yes, this is the worst loss in Packer history. Even worse than the 2007 NFCC game or SBXXXII.

[mmmdk]

Great the dumb fuck Packer "fans" are back.

But none dumber than Stubby. :wink:

Sorry about your kids dream, he and many other Packers fans deserved better today. Not to be.

[mraynrand]

This loss beats the 4th and 26 hands down.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Worst loss I've ever witnessed.

agreed. Worse than Bay of Pigs

[Packers4Glory]

How do you come back from that loss??? ��

[Rutnstrut]

Yep. Any word on why Matthews was sidelined?

I think some of his hair extensions were coming out.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Well, Im done throwing up now....no wait, there's more...

[gbgary]

all of a sudden we couldn't cover their mediocre wrs. unreal. and why did Burnett slide down. bostick couldn't catch a wounded duck. geesh. couldn't score in the red zone. crazy. historic collapse.

[vince]

Slocum should be fired but this is 100% on Brian Bostick. He was coached to not go after that ball. He's there for and onside on the ground but that ball is Jordy's and I guaranfuckingtee that Bostick was coached that way and he - unfortunately is too fucking stupid, inexperienced to actually do what he was coached to do. I feel sorry for that guy. That's gonna be a tough thing to live with.

Our ticket was punched to the Super Bowl if Brandon Bostick just gets the fuck out of the way. It would have been better if he'd forgotten to take the field on that play.

[pbmax]

Gonna take a few, I dunno, months to get over this.

It was a great plan for 3 Quarters. What a wasted effort by the D. Terrible wasted opportunities by the O.

And good coverage (minus one kick) on the ST's were betrayed by a fake FG with starters on the field.

M3 needs to go hire Sherman's game manager guy back.

[Bossman641]

I bet stubby is a load of fun at a casino.

Honest question, is there anything about the Packers you enjoy? All season you've bitched and moaned about a team who was, at worst, the 4th best team in the league. I admit it's tough to be positive now but I'm curious as to your response.

[LEWCWA]

When you play games not to lose, guess what happens?

[pbmax]

The internet is literally down after that. Advanced NFL Stats, Football Outsiders and PackerRats having server error. Twitter is somehow still up.

[Packers4Glory]

4th & goal at the half yardline.....that cost us. That whole series down there and the pussy FG decision

[Harlan Huckleby]

When you play games not to lose, guess what happens?

yep

[Bretsky]

once we f'cked up the onside kick I knew we were done; what a terrible terrible feeling

[HowardRoark]

Pack shut it down too early

Yep.....math was on their side, but the tail risk kicked in. All of it.

[Packers4Glory]

Unless a FG wins it I'm never taking 3 points inside the 1 yardline. Ever.

[Bretsky]

4th & goal at the half yardline.....that cost us. That whole series down there and the pussy FG decision


It's hard to fault that call
The offense pussied out on 2nd and 3rd down
Punch it in
After the RB's failed twice that seemed to me to be the right call.

[Harlan Huckleby]

4th & goal at the half yardline.....that cost us. That whole series down there and the pussy FG decision

MM's decisions all game long smelled like fish. 4th quarter was major choke

[mraynrand]

That last 5 minutes was far worse than water boarding.

[Joemailman]

How do you come back from that loss??? ��

Start with this?

http://www.nashvillescene.com/binary/21b4/1338858437-jack_daniels_bottle-10208.gif

[Bretsky]

Slocum should be fired but this is 100% on Brian Bostick. He was coached to not go after that ball. He's there for and onside on the ground but that ball is Jordy's and I guaranfuckingtee that Bostick was coached that way and he - unfortunately is too fucking stupid, inexperienced to actually do what he was coached to do. I feel sorry for that guy. That's gonna be a tough thing to live with.

Our ticket was punched to the Super Bowl if Brandon Bostick just gets the fuck out of the way. It would have been better if he'd forgotten to take the field on that play.


Curious how you know this.....was he supposed to go block the defender and let Jordy catch it after he blocks somebody ? Not questioning you at all....just curious

[pbmax]

Unless a FG wins it I'm never taking 3 points inside the 1 yardline. Ever.

Given the score, the D and the way the game played out, that wasn't a huge cost. But it left them with less margin for error and then they got WAY too conservative.

[vince]

I have no idea how anyone can talk about anything besides

This was a historic win with a one-legged QB in an unbelievably tough environement that did just enough against a great defense - thanks to the great field position the defense gave them all day long in a dominating performance. Unbelievable effort by everyone on the team to give the Packers another historic win and Super Bowl run....

pulled out from underneath it after it accomplished it - by a no name third string TE from Arkansas A&M or somewhere. Just do what you've practiced - don't even go after that ball because your responsibility is to protect Jordy who's the designated high onside jump-catcher behind the line of guys who are to protect him.

Man - biggest choke ever by a guy who will go down in infamy way ahead of T.J. Rubley and every choke story in the history of football. The Super Fucking Bowl pulled out from underneath an incredible win on the road against the defending champs. Feels like a dream.

[mraynrand]

Ya know what I wanted to see? One goddamm fucking play run at Sherman while he's holding a useless arm against his shirt. Fuck, even Kirk kicked the shit out of Khan after he had to tuck his useless hand in his belt.

Run to Sherman's side and just make him try one tackle. Throw over there and make him jam with one hand only. Anything. Geezus that was intolerable. INTOLERABLE!

[Guiness]

agreed. Worse than Bay of Pigs

depends which side you were pulling for...

[Jimx29]

How do you come back from that loss??? ��
everyone from the pope down will tear slocum and lardasses asses apart for the next couple weeks, and then next thing ya know it's August and they are both there blowing each other, laughing about how they are both riding the good fortune of having A-Rod on their roster

[pbmax]

I am having trouble counting the number of ways the team could have won this. Its exactly like the Eagles loss. But worse.

[mraynrand]

The internet is literally down after that. Advanced NFL Stats, Football Outsiders and PackerRats having server error. Twitter is somehow still up.

I blame North Korea. And Slocum.

[Rastak]

depends which side you were pulling for...


Exactly....the Rooskies backed down if I recall my history....as an infant I can't recall first hand the reports.

[Maxie the Taxi]

M3 needs to go hire Sherman's game manager guy back.

I've been saying all year that Stubby has to give up play calling to keep his head in the game, or hire a special coach to manage games like this. Will it ever happen? I doubt it. Stubby earned his nickname.

[denverYooper]

Michael David Smith ‏@MichaelDavSmith 25s25 seconds ago
Packers' D played well for 56 minutes, then gave up 206 yards and 3 touchdowns on Seattle's last 3 drives.

[vince]

Curious how you know this.....was he supposed to go block the defender and let Jordy catch it after he blocks somebody ? Not questioning you at all....just curious
Yes that's how it's coached. Jordy is that guy. That's how I played it my whole football career (I was the Jordy in high school and DIII college football. All you gotta do is protect Jordy from getting hit so he can catch it clean and get down. It's always the guy right behind the front line. He freaked at the moment and somehow forgot how the play is run or had doubt about what he was doing (why I don't know) if Jordy was going to be there. He was.

Slocum was livid with Bostick as he walked off the field because he didn't do what Slocum coached him to do. I'd bet my life on that.

[beveaux1]

The Packers are getting criticized for shutting down their offense with a 19-7 lead and under 5 minutes to play after Burnett's interception. I think 31 other teams would do exactly what MM did and call 3 running plays to force Seattle to burn TOs. Everybody is quick to say that special teams cost us this win, and they certainly contributed.

Remember, in the last 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of overtime, our defense gave up 22 points. Our offense had the ball for about a minute and scored 3 points. Our defense EPICALLY failed. I don't believe this is on the defensive coordinator. I believe the players failed. They, and I don't use this word easily, completely choked. MM didn't lose the game. Capers didn't lose the game. Special teams certainly contributed, but the defense lost this game after playing lights out for 57 minutes. The players choked this game away.

[Rutnstrut]

Honest question, is there anything about the Packers you enjoy? All season you've bitched and moaned about a team who was, at worst, the 4th best team in the league. I admit it's tough to be positive now but I'm curious as to your response.

I'll give you an honest answer. I love the Packers, always have and always will. But I have NEVER been a stubby fan, I really think he is an over rated coach. I also don't care for Slocum or Capers. But keeping them around is just another example of how inadequate stubby is. Many fans don't remember the years of shitty to mediocre QB's. The Packers have had a superstar QB for the last 20+ years. You HAVE to take an advantage of that, because it won't last forever. But the powers that be in GB seem happy to say well shucks we almost made it, maybe next year.

[Fosco33]

2nd half. No turnovers.

[Joemailman]

Does this top the TO catch after the Rice fumble, 4th and 26, and the OT Giants loss as the worst loss ever? I'm sick

I'm not morbid enough to start a poll on this one.

[SMBASS]

@Paulimig
#Packers up by 12 with 3:54 left, Seahawks ball at their own 31-yard line, the win probability calculator had Packers chances to win at 99%.

That's a nice kick in the nuts.

[woodbuck27]

Does this top the TO catch after the Rice fumble, 4th and 26, and the OT Giants loss as the worst loss ever? I'm sick

The Packers had it and simply gave it away.

The Packers had what wasn't supposed to be theirs. A win in Seattle and a berth in the Super Bowl.

Most of us had to feel a win in that game but in the second half the Packers offense simply dropped out.

This will be an ugly defeat to easily overcome. It's simply embarrassing when the team has it that close to victory.

A terrible loss that will feel worse tomorrow....worse the next day after the shock is over.

[Fosco33]

M3 fucked the game

[Teamcheez1]

The Packers are getting criticized for shutting down their offense with a 19-7 lead and under 5 minutes to play after Burnett's interception. I think 31 other teams would do exactly what MM did and call 3 running plays to force Seattle to burn TOs. Everybody is quick to say that special teams cost us this win, and they certainly contributed.

Remember, in the last 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of overtime, our defense gave up 22 points. Our offense had the ball for about a minute and scored 3 points. Our defense EPICALLY failed. I don't believe this is on the defensive coordinator. I believe the players failed. They, and I don't use this word easily, completely choked. MM didn't lose the game. Capers didn't lose the game. Special teams certainly contributed, but the defense lost this game after playing lights out for 57 minutes. The players choked this game away.

So you are absolving the coaches for losing this game?

[vince]

Stubby, Capers, did just about everything you could expect against that team at home. They pulled off an incredible upset getting that team ready and did everything necessary to take this team to the Super Bowl in an unbelievably tough place to win.

[Fosco33]

All wr needed after the Kuhn belly flop was a td.

[King Friday]

Given the score, the D and the way the game played out, that wasn't a huge cost. But it left them with less margin for error and then they got WAY too conservative.

Yeah, I've seen us fail miserably enough on 4th and goal from the 1 lately...I'll take the 3 points against a Seattle team that is offensively challenged. McCarthy's playcalling in the redzone is about the worst I've seen from an NFL head coach. That wasn't the pussy move that cost us the game. Deciding to basically take a knee from the start of the 4th quarter when the Seahawk defense was gassed, injured, limping, on the ropes....that is inexcusable from a coaching staff.

[Bretsky]

The Packers are getting criticized for shutting down their offense with a 19-7 lead and under 5 minutes to play after Burnett's interception. I think 31 other teams would do exactly what MM did and call 3 running plays to force Seattle to burn TOs. Everybody is quick to say that special teams cost us this win, and they certainly contributed.

Remember, in the last 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of overtime, our defense gave up 22 points. Our offense had the ball for about a minute and scored 3 points. Our defense EPICALLY failed. I don't believe this is on the defensive coordinator. I believe the players failed. They, and I don't use this word easily, completely choked. MM didn't lose the game. Capers didn't lose the game. Special teams certainly contributed, but the defense lost this game after playing lights out for 57 minutes. The players choked this game away.


Have to agree with this..although...I"d credit the ST as much as any.

And I gotta say.....in looking at the Fake Field Goal.....Ryan would have been caught by House. Hawk leaving the receiver was TERRIBLE

[mraynrand]

Man - biggest choke ever by a guy who will go down in infamy way ahead of T.J. Rubley and every choke story in the history of football.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18caPNisP2U

[vince]

So you are absolving the coaches for losing this game?

Yes the coaches deserve credit for WINNING THIS GAME. One guy took it away from them all. Unbelievable.
Still fire Slocum but that shouldn't happen just because of this game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ya know what I wanted to see? One goddamm fucking play run at Sherman while he's holding a useless arm against his shirt. Fuck, even Kirk kicked the shit out of Khan after he had to tuck his useless hand in his belt.

Run to Sherman's side and just make him try one tackle. Throw over there and make him jam with one hand only. Anything. Geezus that was intolerable. INTOLERABLE!

yes, it was odd that they never tested Sherman

[Harlan Huckleby]

the worst defeat in Packer history will have more than 1 goat. IT's tempting to blame it all on MM, Slocum, Hawk, Bostick ..... There were a series of epic fuckups

[Rastak]

Yes the coaches deserve credit for WINNING THIS GAME. One guy took it away from them all. Unbelievable.


One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.

[Bretsky]

ROGERS INTERVIEW

Seemed VERY short when trying to answer a question about whether they knew of Richard Sherman going with one arm....asking if they could have capitalized better
he noted
We didn't get it done....he's clearly not happy with lack of aggression on O

[Harlan Huckleby]

One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.

yes

[Bossman641]

I'll give you an honest answer. I love the Packers, always have and always will. But I have NEVER been a stubby fan, I really think he is an over rated coach. I also don't care for Slocum or Capers. But keeping them around is just another example of how inadequate stubby is. Many fans don't remember the years of shitty to mediocre QB's. The Packers have had a superstar QB for the last 20+ years. You HAVE to take an advantage of that, because it won't last forever. But the powers that be in GB seem happy to say well shucks we almost made it, maybe next year.

Fair enough

[Teamcheez1]

Yes the coaches deserve credit for WINNING THIS GAME. One guy took it away from them all. Unbelievable.

I thought we lost.

[Bretsky]

One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.


If we don't give up the onside kick we win though

[Maxie the Taxi]

The Packers are getting criticized for shutting down their offense with a 19-7 lead and under 5 minutes to play after Burnett's interception. I think 31 other teams would do exactly what MM did and call 3 running plays to force Seattle to burn TOs. Everybody is quick to say that special teams cost us this win, and they certainly contributed.

Remember, in the last 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of overtime, our defense gave up 22 points. Our offense had the ball for about a minute and scored 3 points. Our defense EPICALLY failed. I don't believe this is on the defensive coordinator. I believe the players failed. They, and I don't use this word easily, completely choked. MM didn't lose the game. Capers didn't lose the game. Special teams certainly contributed, but the defense lost this game after playing lights out for 57 minutes. The players choked this game away.

I disagree. Imagine if, after Burnett's interception, Belicheck was the head coach instead of Stubby. I guarantee we don't lose the game. You don't win the game by taking a knee, especially when Seattle has all its timeouts. You win by making a 1st down. We've done it several times earlier in the season.

[Packgator]

once we f'cked up the onside kick I knew we were done; what a terrible terrible feeling

The fake FG for TD was the start. Burnett falling down on his own when he could have had a TD was next.

[King Friday]

Slocum was livid with Bostick as he walked off the field because he didn't do what Slocum coached him to do. I'd bet my life on that.

Vince I hear you.

However, Slocum as the coach should have an understanding of who is capable of doing an assignment. We all know what was supposed to happen...and I'm sure Bostick knows what is supposed to happen. However, what was supposed to happen didn't. Great coaching staffs prepare their players...we all know Slocum is HORRIFIC in preparing his players. We've seen it 100 times. Just because Slocum covered this on a chalkboard for 15 minutes this week is not enough...and that is my guess as to how Slocum approaches his job. Not just based on this game...but the countless other times his players have screwed the pooch.

Fool me once...shame on the player. Fool me 100 times...the coach is a fucking retard and needs to go or we'll ALWAYS have stupid dumbasses out there costing us games. That is EXACTLY why Slocum earns a paycheck. To make sure the dumbasses are weeded out. You don't wait until the NFCC game to figure out if a guy can pass mustard.

[Harlan Huckleby]

We didn't get it done....he's clearly not happy with lack of aggression on O

Probably hard for Rodgers to audible out of plays in Seattle

They shut down too soon. And Russell Wilson suggests God was the 13th man. That's a lot to overcome.

[Rastak]

If we don't give up the onside kick we win though



If he scores on the pick instead of sliding, if if if if.....lots of ifs, that was just one.

[King Friday]

I disagree. Imagine if, after Burnett's interception, Belicheck was the head coach instead of Stubby. I guarantee we don't lose the game. You don't win the game by taking a knee, especially when Seattle has all its timeouts. You win by making a 1st down. We've done it several times earlier in the season.

Yep. You have Aaron Fucking Rodgers. Go win the game. Don't just "hope" the Seahawks run out of time.

[denverYooper]

What a shitty game.

[LEWCWA]

fuck the fake fg, 4th and 26, pales in comparison to 2nd and 30, 3rd and 19 and then you rush 2 guys and well fuck it I have a softball game to watch superbowl sunday anyhow....just the dumbest shit I have ever witnessed.....plenty of blame to go around and well these things linger for teams. They may never recover from this. Maybe its time for MM to go. This is a talented team that just wilted like a little bitch.

[King Friday]

the worst defeat in Packer history will have more than 1 goat. IT's tempting to blame it all on MM, Slocum, Hawk, Bostick ..... There were a series of epic fuckups

Ha Ha has some skin in the game. You HAVE to knock down that 2 point conversion prayer heave. If he does that...Crosby's FG wins the game.

[Bretsky]

:knll:
Vince I hear you.

However, Slocum as the coach should have an understanding of who is capable of doing an assignment. We all know what was supposed to happen...and I'm sure Bostick knows what is supposed to happen. However, what was supposed to happen didn't. Great coaching staffs prepare their players...we all know Slocum is HORRIFIC in preparing his players. We've seen it 100 times. Just because Slocum covered this on a chalkboard for 15 minutes this week is not enough...and that is my guess as to how Slocum approaches his job. Not just based on this game...but the countless other times his players have screwed the pooch.

Fool me once...shame on the player. Fool me 100 times...the coach is a fucking retard and needs to go or we'll ALWAYS have stupid dumbasses out there costing us games. That is EXACTLY why Slocum earns a paycheck. To make sure the dumbasses are weeded out. You don't wait until the NFCC game to figure out if a guy can pass mustard.

[vince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18caPNisP2U
There's one. Billy Buckner. That was Game 6 though right? Still had game 7.

This was Bottom of the 9 game 7 up 3, lazy fly ball to center field and the left fielder runs over to catch it only to see it bounce of his head and clear the bases for an inside the park grand slam error to lose by 1.

Then the left fielder walks off the field with a big welt on his forehead while the fans storm the field. Feels like that anyway.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I seem to be the only one seeing that Seattle got a lot of lucky bounces in last 8 minutes of game. I'm not taking anything away from their comeback, they hammered the scared Packers, but one bad bounce and packers win.

[Maxie the Taxi]

fuck the fake fg, 4th and 26, pales in comparison to 2nd and 30, 3rd and 19 and then you rush 2 guys and well fuck it I have a softball game to watch superbowl sunday anyhow....just the dumbest shit I have ever witnessed.....plenty of blame to go around and well these things linger for teams. They may never recover from this. Maybe its time for MM to go. This is a talented team that just wilted like a little bitch.

+1

[Harlan Huckleby]

didn't packer special teams outscore packer offense today?

[beveaux1]

So you are absolving the coaches for losing this game?

I'm saying that fans always blame the coaches, but the players were in perfect position to go to the Super Bowl with a 12 point lead and 3 minutes to go. They didn't cover Lynch out of the backfield, bit on the fake to Lynch on the Wilson TD. They let an onside kick hit them in the head and allowed Seattle to recover. They missed numerous tackles on the Lynch run. They didn't knock down a duck that was in the air for 3 seconds on the 2 point conversion. Then, they allowed Kearse to get behind them in OT.

The players belly flopped. They choked. I'd love to say the coaches screwed the pooch, but that really didn't happen.

[Bretsky]

If he scores on the pick instead of sliding, if if if if.....lots of ifs, that was just one.


there were players in front of him; the LB ahead of him turned and signaled for him to go down. I agree it was moronic. He should have known better than doing that on anything but the last drive of the game.

[SMBASS]

I disagree. Imagine if, after Burnett's interception, Belicheck was the head coach instead of Stubby. I guarantee we don't lose the game. You don't win the game by taking a knee, especially when Seattle has all its timeouts. You win by making a 1st down. We've done it several times earlier in the season.

As much as I can't stand Belicheck, I agree 100%. No way in hell Belicheck loses this game if he's coaching.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Ha Ha has some skin in the game. You HAVE to knock down that 2 point conversion prayer heave. If he does that...Crosby's FG wins the game.

Truth.

[Packers4Glory]

If HA ha didnt whiff on Wilsons prayer heave on the 2pt conversion...

[Rutnstrut]

there were players in front of him; the LB ahead of him turned and signaled for him to go down. I agree it was moronic. He should have known better than doing that on anything but the last drive of the game.

Who was that LB?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

It was a combination of bad luck and poor coaching for a very small part of overall game. I mean, shit had the game in the bag. But then;

- The decision to get conservative when you had no trouble offensively the whole fucking game.
- The epic fake field goal, I was literally screaming at tv to watch for fake.
- The horrible decision by Bostick.
- The two point convertion, I mean, fuck me, how in hell do they convert that. It was all luck.
- Losing the overtime coin flip.

What am I missing? I am just sick about this game. If people are not fired, I will be greatly disappointed.

[woodbuck27]

I have no idea how anyone can talk about anything besides

This was a historic win with a one-legged QB in an unbelievably tough environement that did just enough against a great defense - thanks to the great field position the defense gave them all day long in a dominating performance. Unbelievable effort by everyone on the team to give the Packers another historic win and Super Bowl run....

pulled out from underneath it after it accomplished it - by a no name third string TE from Arkansas A&M or somewhere. Just do what you've practiced - don't even go after that ball because your responsibility is to protect Jordy who's the designated high onside jump-catcher behind the line of guys who are to protect him.

Man - biggest choke ever by a guy who will go down in infamy way ahead of T.J. Rubley and every choke story in the history of football. The Super Fucking Bowl pulled out from underneath an incredible win on the road against the defending champs. Feels like a dream.

Too many here knew this would happen.

The game plan had to be simple and persistent for a full 60 minutes.

The TRICK TD on the faked FG was Mickey Mouse. Jon Ryan must love it.

The defense had to key on Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch and TE Luke Willson for a full 60 minutes but we saw what happened late in the 4th Qtr. and in OT. These guys were all dialed in killing the Packers as that game wound down to it's conclusion.

The Packers needed more in the bank on offense and MM ensured that wasn't the case.

Mike McCarthy showed us again today that he cannot compete in the big game.

That won't matter. The tight Family Circle that's the Green Bay Packers brass will just shake it off.

"Hey we made it to the NFC Championship game and where will we lay the blame for such a close defeat in Over Time ?"

Pass the cheese and crackers please.

[Bretsky]

As much as I can't stand Belicheck, I agree 100%. No way in hell Belicheck loses this game if he's coaching.




I GOTTA AGREE TOOO

NO WAY HOODY GENIUS LOSES IN THIS SCENARIO

HE PUTS THE DAGGER IN

[Harlan Huckleby]

It was a combination of bad luck and poor coaching for a very small part of overall game. I mean, shit had the game in the bag. But then;

- The decision to get conservative when you had no trouble offensively the whole fucking game.
- The epic fake field goal, I was literally screaming at tv to watch for fake.
- The horrible decision by Bostick.
- The two point convertion, I mean, fuck me, how in hell do they convert that. It was all luck.
- Losing the overtime coin flip.

What am I missing? I am just sick about this game. If people are not fired, I will be greatly disappointed.


good summary.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I'm saying that fans always blame the coaches, but the players were in perfect position to go to the Super Bowl with a 12 point lead and 3 minutes to go. They didn't cover Lynch out of the backfield, bit on the fake to Lynch on the Wilson TD. They let an onside kick hit them in the head and allowed Seattle to recover. They missed numerous tackles on the Lynch run. They didn't knock down a duck that was in the air for 3 seconds on the 2 point conversion. Then, they allowed Kearse to get behind them in OT.

The players belly flopped. They choked. I'd love to say the coaches screwed the pooch, but that really didn't happen.

It's called putting the players in a position to succeed. All that stuff you cited would be academic if Stubby is aggressive after Burnett's interception instead of passive.

[vince]

One guy? That's bullshit. There were many plays that could have sealed it. Many. That was one giant fuckup, not the only mistake and failure.
A lot of things happened. There is no way to deny the fact that if the onside is recovered, the Packers are in the Super Bowl right now.

[Bretsky]

Who was that LB?



I gotta find a replay....it was not JAG Jones...looked like Barrington.....gotta find a replay

[Joemailman]

Did Larrivee at any point say "Dagger"?

[Teamcheez1]

We get into the record books for giving up the biggest halftime lead in an NFC championship game.

[woodbuck27]

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[Guiness]

You can look at this or that...but I'm just stunned. That was the epitome of the wheels falling off. There are about 10 different things that could've happened on defense to change the outcome. And on offense.

[Rastak]

A lot of things happened. There is no way to deny the fact that if the onside is recovered, the Packers are in the Super Bowl right now.

Who is to say they don't turn it over? You don't know and I don't either......lots of plays, one guy didn;t lose it.

[Packgator]

I'm saying that fans always blame the coaches, but the players were in perfect position to go to the Super Bowl with a 12 point lead and 3 minutes to go. They didn't cover Lynch out of the backfield, bit on the fake to Lynch on the Wilson TD. They let an onside kick hit them in the head and allowed Seattle to recover. They missed numerous tackles on the Lynch run. They didn't knock down a duck that was in the air for 3 seconds on the 2 point conversion. Then, they allowed Kearse to get behind them in OT.

The players belly flopped. They choked. I'd love to say the coaches screwed the pooch, but that really didn't happen.

Correct. This was about players not making a play when they had to. The 2 pointer, the onside kick, etc. Burnett makes a play and then doesn't extend it for a possible score with 5 minutes (?) to go. MM has very little to do with this loss. It's on the players.

[Packgator]

Duplicate

[wist43]

I disagree. Imagine if, after Burnett's interception, Belicheck was the head coach instead of Stubby. I guarantee we don't lose the game. You don't win the game by taking a knee, especially when Seattle has all its timeouts. You win by making a 1st down. We've done it several times earlier in the season.

Exactly... MM did his bit to piss it away, and dunderdummy reverted to his usual form - a leopard and his spots.

Did ya like those Marshawn Lynch runs up the middle when dunderdummy abandoned the middle of the field - as he always can't wait to do, lol...

Knew it was over when MM started taking a knee with 5 minutes left.

[woodbuck27]

We get into the record books for giving up the biggest halftime lead in an NFC championship game.


Ohh no ! Are you serious !?

LINK please.

[Harlan Huckleby]

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all of them pissed off, most of them drinking heavily

[Harlan Huckleby]

You can look at this or that...but I'm just stunned. That was the epitome of the wheels falling off. There are about 10 different things that could've happened on defense to change the outcome. And on offense.

it was a bad dream

[Rastak]

all of them pissed off, most of them drinking heavily


I got the second one covered.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Exactly... MM did his bit to piss it away, and dunderdummy reverted to his usual form - a leopard and his spots.

Did ya like those Marshawn Lynch runs up the middle when dunderdummy abandoned the middle of the field - as he always can't wait to do, lol...

Knew it was over when MM started taking a knee with 5 minutes left.

I knew we were in trouble when Capers started to rush Wilson with two or three guys. I'll have to watch again to say when that was. But during the game in this thread I wrote "Prevent?" a couple of times.

[Rutnstrut]

I've watched a lot of Patriots games this season. One thing that I really like about hoody, is he can plug just about anyone in at most positions and they are more than adequate. Stubby has trouble with this even with the best talent.

[Carolina_Packer]

If he scores on the pick instead of sliding, if if if if.....lots of ifs, that was just one.

If Burnett fumbles or has it stripped during his return and gives the ball back to Seattle, he's the goat. When the Packers got the ball back, they needed the same offensive effort that got them in range for the game tying field goal. The Packers were good today, just not good enough for long enough.

[beveaux1]

It's called putting the players in a position to succeed. All that stuff you cited would be academic if Stubby is aggressive after Burnett's interception instead of passive.

I still think every coach in the league would call 3 running plays with a 19-7 lead, under 5 minutes to play, and a defense that had played lights out the entire game. The defense choked in the final 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of OT.

[woodbuck27]

Correct. This was about players not making a play when they had to. The 2 pointer, the onside kick, etc. Burnett makes a play and then doesn't extend it for a possible score with 5 minutes (?) to go. MM has very little to do with this loss. It's on the players.

This was simply in the full extent of it a TEAM LOSS !

MM has his fair share of blame. He left too many points off the board early in the game.

That is flat out a fact that contributed to this team loss.

[wist43]

Yes, a lot if's - but even with those if's - if MM and dunderdummy don't each of them crawl into a shell - we still win the game.

MM beginning to take a knee at the 5 min mark; dunderdummy's amazing 3 man rush, and cover no one defense on 3rd and forever, his abandoning the middle of the field and playing a 2-4 which allows Lynch to simply run up the middle for a 1st down on 3rd and 6, and allows him to run up the middle for 13 yds, and 14 yds, on and on...

All of those things are coaching decisions that absolutely killed us.

[Harlan Huckleby]

But during the game in this thread I wrote "Prevent?" a couple of times.

copying my posts again

[Iron Mike]

We sure could have used Jermichael Finley today, don't you think??

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yes, a lot if's - but even with those if's - if MM and dunderdummy don't each of them crawl into a shell - we still win the game.

MM beginning to take a knee at the 5 min mark; dunderdummy's amazing 3 man rush, and cover no one defense on 3rd and forever, his abandoning the middle of the field and playing a 2-4 which allows Lynch to simply run up the middle for a 1st down on 3rd and 6, and allows him to run up the middle for 13 yds, and 14 yds, on and on...

All of those things are coaching decisions that absolutely killed us.

yep

[Maxie the Taxi]

I still think every coach in the league would call 3 running plays with a 19-7 lead, under 5 minutes to play, and a defense that had played lights out the entire game. The defense choked in the final 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of OT.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Maybe you're right in a regular season game, but not in the NFC Championship game in the other guy's stadium.

[pbmax]

Michael David Smith ‏@MichaelDavSmith 25s25 seconds ago
Packers' D played well for 56 minutes, then gave up 206 yards and 3 touchdowns on Seattle's last 3 drives.

They don't play Capers bleed the clock D well. It has worked, buts its not pretty. You can't go 12-4 without a decent D effort, but that was a failing this year.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Yes, a lot if's - but even with those if's - if MM and dunderdummy don't each of them crawl into a shell - we still win the game.

MM beginning to take a knee at the 5 min mark; dunderdummy's amazing 3 man rush, and cover no one defense on 3rd and forever, his abandoning the middle of the field and playing a 2-4 which allows Lynch to simply run up the middle for a 1st down on 3rd and 6, and allows him to run up the middle for 13 yds, and 14 yds, on and on...

All of those things are coaching decisions that absolutely killed us.

I actually thought that was our strategy: Let them score with time on the clock to come back and score ourselves. If Seattle would have taken more time off the clock scoring, we would have had no chance at all.

That's how desperate the game became when we sat on the ball with 5 minutes left.

[pbmax]

I knew we were in trouble when Capers started to rush Wilson with two or three guys. I'll have to watch again to say when that was. But during the game in this thread I wrote "Prevent?" a couple of times.

I don't know how Kearse (Baldwin?) got that open on 3rd and 19 with eight men in coverage. It looked like the Seattle game.

[Bretsky]

We sure could have used Jermichael Finley today, don't you think??


QFT

Truth be told this team needs 4 weapons. We have Lacy, Jordy, and Randall

Nobody else showed up today. I didn't expect our offense to kill it but surprisingly our defense was a dominating force for 3 quarters. We didn't need much form he O but we needed more

[Carolina_Packer]

This was like the Atlanta game for a brief decisive bit with the Packers looking like the deer in the headlights. Has anyone talked about the last play with no safety help over the top? What was up with that call? How were they playing them?

[pbmax]

I actually thought that was our strategy: Let them score with time on the clock to come back and score ourselves. If Seattle would have taken more time off the clock scoring, we would have had no chance at all.

That's how desperate the game became when we sat on the ball with 5 minutes left.
Yeah. It was bleeding clock but then Lynch got loose down the sidelines on that wheel route. And that was when the wheels came off.

[pittstang5]

gonna be a looooonnng off season. this one is gonna hurt for a while. I'm thinking a month or two, compared to a couple days. I've lost all hope in this coaching staff.

you play to win the game, not to - not lose.

[Bretsky]

I don't know how Kearse (Baldwin?) got that open on 3rd and 19 with eight men in coverage. It looked like the Seattle game.

Our roaming prevent LB's were too shallow. They looked setup around the 1st but the WR's were behind.
That was a terrible call by Dom; sending three. Wilson could have cooked a six pack of brats back there he had so much time

[pbmax]

QFT

Truth be told this team needs 4 weapons. We have Lacy, Jordy, and Randall

Nobody else showed up today. I didn't expect our offense to kill it but surprisingly our defense was a dominating force for 3 quarters. We didn't need much form he O but we needed more

Rodgers showed up today.

They need to solve the red zone issue.

[wist43]

I don't know how Kearse (Baldwin?) got that open on 3rd and 19 with eight men in coverage. It looked like the Seattle game.

That's what Capers does in that situation - he has the players simply occupy a patch of turf without regard to where any of the receivers are, and with no pass rush... well, you saw what happened.

The 11th commandment - "Thou shalt never, ever, rush 3"

Rush 3 and cover no one is a staple of Capers and has been for years.

[pbmax]

Our roaming prevent LB's were too shallow. They looked setup around the 1st but the WR's were behind.
That was a terrible call by Dom; sending three. Wilson could have cooked a six pack of brats back there he had so much time

There has to be someone on him. Playing the sticks is for the shallowest defenders. The deep guys have to come up. The defense isn't called to have a hole in the zone or 25 yard catches.

wist thinks that is the call, but it clearly isn't the idea. Someone sat WAY too far back.

[wist43]

Play your regular defense, rush the passer, contest the reception, make the tackle and get the fuck off the field... not dunderdummy though - he's amazing, isn't he??

[beveaux1]

There has to be someone on him. Playing the sticks is for the shallowest defenders. The deep guys have to come up. The defense isn't called to have a hole in the zone or 25 yard catches.

wist thinks that is the call, but it clearly isn't the idea. Someone sat WAY too far back.

Absolutely agree.

[vince]

Sometimes guys actually fuck up on the field. Sometimes the coaches do everything a coach can do and players still don't execute or get beat by the opposition to make a play. Everything that goes wrong - in fact most of the things that go wrong - are the result of players not executing or making mistakes or just getting beat by other players.

Expecting the coaches - any coaches - to get their players to never get beat or have perfect execution - is expecting the impossible.

Get the lead - check
Shut down Wilson - check
Win the turnover battle - check
Maintain the lead until you get the team in position for victory formation - check
Recover the onside kick - win the NFC Championship - uncheck
Everything else that occured after victory is secured - irrelevant

[woodbuck27]

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The Packers killed themselves today but:

Long live the Green Bay Packer Organization and Packerrats.

There isn't one member here today that isn't a little shocked as this game went.

For reason (s) few experts called the Packers to win this game in Seattle.

it was a marvelous win that was and suddenly ...wasn't.

That really is difficult to take. Imagine how the Green Pay Packer team (Players and Coaches and TT and the Powers To Be feel !? Many of them can't even express their feelings.

This loss is PAIN !

[Bretsky]

Rodgers showed up today.

They need to solve the red zone issue.


What were Rodgers stat lines (honestly do not know) ? I would not consider him a weapon. He catches the ball well....I'd take him on ST over Bostick for sure....but I don't think he's a guy teams think they even have to put any focus on

[Carolina_Packer]

There has to be someone on him. Playing the sticks is for the shallowest defenders. The deep guys have to come up. The defense isn't called to have a hole in the zone or 25 yard catches.

wist thinks that is the call, but it clearly isn't the idea. Someone sat WAY too far back.

If only Dom has a remote that could pause time and space and then could move the players to the right position on the field and then un-pause the remote. The players have to think on their feet, don't they? Of course, he can also call a time-out as his "pause button".

[beveaux1]

Sometimes guys actually fuck up on the field. Sometimes the coaches do everything a coach can do and players still don't execute or get beat by the opposition to make a play. Everything that goes wrong - in fact most of the things that go wrong - are the result of players not executing or making mistakes or just getting beat by other players.

Expecting the coaches - any coaches - to get their players to never get beat or have perfect execution - is expecting the impossible.

Get the lead - check
Shut down Wilson - check
Win the turnover battle - check
Maintain the lead until you get the team in position for victory formation - check
Recover the onside kick - win the NFC Championship - uncheck
Everything else that occured after victory is secured - irrelevant

Again I agree.

[yetisnowman]

In any game like this u can question a few coaching decisions. But to me the game plan and play calling was fine. The players didnt execute enough in key situations.

AJ hawk, why are you leaving the one eligible receiver on the fake fg? You had a choice between a kicker beating 3 other defenders for a 10 yard rush, or having to complete a wide open 15 yd pass.
Morgan Burnett, why are you sliding on an interception with 5 minutes left and no one but lineman and the quarterback left to tackle you. I've never seen someone slide on a pick with that much time left.
Haha, why in the world did you flat out allow Luke Wilson to catch that 2 pt conversion?
Brandon Bostick, if you are barely good enough to be on the team, maybe get the fuck out of the way and let your teams best receiver catch an onside kick?
And the biggest GOAT, and it pains me to say it.....Aaron Rodgers. Your defense giftwrapped you the game in the first half. You throw a jump ball for Richard Sherman vs a rookie receiver. You missed and easy TD to jordy on the goaline. And you missed several easy screen passes. You also were not accurate on a few key 3rd down plays that went for completions but were not where they needed to be to secure first downs and key chunks of yardage.

Our coaches put us in a perfect position. It should have been 30-0 at half time. Our offense couldn't get out of our own way.

[pbmax]

If only Dom has a remote that could pause time and space and then could move the players to the right position on the field and then un-pause the remote. The players have to think on their feet, don't they? Of course, he can also call a time-out as his "pause button".

I saw that movie, it was terrible. :lol:

[Bretsky]

Play your regular defense, rush the passer, contest the reception, make the tackle and get the fuck off the field... not dunderdummy though - he's amazing, isn't he??


Not even you would pin this on DOM; he was Domgenius for 3 quarters and if not for TWO epic special teams fuckups most of what we witnessed never happens.

[vince]

I still think every coach in the league would call 3 running plays with a 19-7 lead, under 5 minutes to play, and a defense that had played lights out the entire game. The defense choked in the final 3 minutes of the game and in the first 3 minutes of OT.
Absolutely. You have to execute running the ball and keep the clock going. Throwing incomplete passes hurts far worse than running for no gain. Don't want either result but if guys don't execute that's what you get.

[woodbuck27]

Sometimes guys actually fuck up on the field. Sometimes the coaches do everything a coach can do and players still don't execute or get beat by the opposition to make a play. Everything that goes wrong - in fact most of the things that go wrong - are the result of players not executing or making mistakes or just getting beat by other players.

Expecting the coaches - any coaches - to get their players to never get beat or have perfect execution - is expecting the impossible.

Get the lead - check
Shut down Wilson - check
Win the turnover battle - check
Maintain the lead until you get the team in position for victory formation - check
Recover the onside kick - win the NFC Championship - uncheck
Everything else that occured after victory is secured - irrelevant

It really does come down to 'the moment'.

Then the next moment....and the next. In the end !

Get it done or face the consequences.

[woodbuck27]

Not even you would pin this on DOM; he was Domgenius for 3 quarters and if not for TWO epic special teams fuckups most of what we witnessed never happens.

Nailed it !

How many posted this week that ST's would bite the team in the arse!?

[denverYooper]

Tme to search for Patler's thread on Bostick and bump it.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

The biggest fail in my mind is getting too conservative on both sides of the ball in those last few minutes. You just don't do that in the NFC Champianship in the other team's house. They actually called a great game up to that point but in my opinion screwed the pooch big time at the end of the game. They need to be held accountable just like when they are given praise for the wins. But for some reason, both are teflon in the eyes of the board. Here's hoping MM surprises me and fires Dom and Slocum, as well as making the changes in personal that are so obvious to everybody here. Still a packer fan, just a horribly disappointed packer fan.

[Carolina_Packer]

It feels good to have had a chance to win this game when nobody outside of Green Bay fans really gave the Pack much of a chance to go up there and win. Admit it. You were a little surprised that Green Bay had a 12 point lead with 7 minutes and counting. Some people here thought it wouldn't be much of a game at all. Some hoped we wouldn't get embarrassed on national TV. The Packers represented today, they just came up short. I'm proud of what they accomplished and really disappointed they fell short. This too shall pass.

[mr_blonde]

I still would like to know why Matthews was not on the field the final two drives in regulation. Was he hurt???

He was in there during the Seahawks OT winning drive ....

[Striker]

Absolutely. You have to execute running the ball and keep the clock going. Throwing incomplete passes hurts far worse than running for no gain. Don't want either result but if guys don't execute that's what you get.

At the same time they were willing to have Rodgers throw on third down twice against Dallas, and this time they run/run/run/punt.

There are few people absolved of the blame for this one. Employing a weak 'play not to lose' strategy. Prevent defense.

Player's mistakes. Coaching mistakes. Were we going to actually attempt to win the game at the end of regulation? We only used one of three timeouts, when they could have maybe been a bit more aggressive moving the ball there.