woodbuck27
08-30-2006, 02:46 PM
Packer Fan? What are YOU Seeing - Feeling - Doing and Missing?
This post is inspired by two of OUR members. On " their reality " regarding the issue on another thread, regarding an event " in the Bengals game this past Monday Night".
A Brett Favre fumble, that led to a TD for " the Bengals ".
I appreciate what that examination of/for the TRUTH does for ALL of us here at PACKERRATS.
You know who YOU are. What side of the fence YOU live on. :idea:
" the REAL ...or...serious Packer fan " ... as another poster express'd it, on a thread one evening last week.
Alot of those here... Thank GOODNESS for PACKERRATS. NOT to imply snobbery nor group posters at PACKERRATS.
We are ONE here I trust, through ONE common chant. GO PACK GO !
Well... then, there's OUR esteemed member Rastak and Minny fan. A solid member and contributor to OUR Packer HOME.
We may learn fr. one another here. Some strong on this or that aspect of football etc.; other's offer us different qualities / strengths that are positive and lead to growth in OUR experience here.
Isn't it about an attitude of open mindedness and maybe alot more?
I try to be here:
My perspective may need some polishing. LIFE... always, a continuous process of trying to find the TRUTH. To grow as a Packer fan at PACKERRATS, but moreso as a person.
That's sometime's a difficult chore. :mrgreen:
This FORUM gets better every week/month in my view PACKERRATS.
OUR PACKER HOME is ALL about OUR combined efforts and contributions to the Big Picture. As Packer fans ,YES... but moreso I trust as human beings/people. How we deal with Green Bay Packer good and bad fortunes is OUR central focus. What truly brings us together.
I appreciate poster's that look at plays on tape over and over, to get the proper perspective... on WHY... that particular result went down.
As a Coach does, as a serious Packer player does i.e. OUR CB Al Harris... to break it down, to see - then work to solve the real problem?
We have people at PACKERRATS that do just that. Then kindly offer that discovered insight for the membership. For all of us to grow as football fans in what happened, but moreso and more importantly...WHY it happened.
Outstanding!
I'm challenged not to blow my stack, when I have to deal with Packer fans that toss down HARD on Packer players, based on a preseason game's results.
What that game was for is alot more valuable than "just a win" and the Rah Rah aftermath of a GREAT VICTORY in another preseason game.
Don't get me wrong.
We needed to get pumped by the result of " the Falcons " game after OUR stinko first preseason game Vs." the Chargers ".
Of course... we realize that " the Chargers " and " the Bengals " are two very solid teams and seriously playoff bound?
What was the agenda of OUR HC /Coach's... the overall focus in that preseason game?
Often, the Coachs are simply trying out things, or using that preseason game to simply and dynamically try certain offensive and defensive schemes. It's not at all about, winning a preseason game at all cost.
Mike McCarthy may be trying /experimenting with Offensive game plans and with OUR Defensive Co-Ordinator seeing what OUR players capability is in cerain Defensive alignments and strategies? What will work best? A man to man set here, and a zone alignment there in real game action.That preseason game's (gameplan) may be skuttled. We have a Rookie HC as a reality and many on his staf are people he's familiar wih but that doesn'r translae to instant success,hardly. We are going to have serious results from growing pains. It will...come with the territory. I believe that.
Is it possible giving OUR talent, to go to this or that defensive format for what will really work best for a positve outcome? Preseason game are that time to try things at no real cost. So we see something that seems OK in one preseason game swapped for another scheme that flops. It's all about input and reaction to a dynamic response. Just part of the process towords playing OUR game once the Regular season rolls up on us.
Some of these schemes utilized in a preseason game are on a mere trial basis, and we may never see that ONE used in a regular season game.
One of my pet peeve's and sorry but here it comes.
Some of my fellow PACKERRAT's are really fast...to get DOWN HARD on OUR future HOFer QB and a Packer LEADER, Brett Favre.
I had to endure it all, in the off season, in regard to his play LAST SEASON. Try to get past that PLEASE. It's gone !!
Try harder to be FAIR to Brett Favre and ALL he has been for us as Packer fans/and remains for " the Green Bay Packers " immediate future.
Karma
I certainly will agree with all you whenever Brett Favre is the problem... when Brett Favre is screwing up... but it started again, during and following the Bengals, just a preseason game
Let's learn TRUTH from anything that Bengals game gave us, move forward with a +ve outlook to Friday Night and beyond that to Sept.10th and "the Chicago Bears".
I too have to constantly remind myself of that. :mrgreen:
It's ALL about OUR FIRST SEASONAL GAME. da Bears....
I was looking at Favre's career and comparing it to ALL the other QB's that exist in the NFL today and I am constantly impressed with what he's done as a PRO QB for us. Brett Favre has given to us...
HE"S " the REAL Deal
As a friend of mine says... " Favre... He's the shit ".
I have had to deal with people's criticisms of Brett Favre and self proclaimed die hard in the mud serious Packer fans amongst them....
that " just want him gone ". I shake my head in total shock and disbelief.
I have to bear the shame of these... sorry... but wear the label as it fits... that are down... (on OUR QB for the past 14 season's).
Brett Favre isn't yesterday's wash water.
I ask this of ALL.
How could any of YOU challenge Favre's professionalism (given his career to date), his attitude, competitiveness, leadership and his strengths as a human being?
Sticking just to " the facts " Ehh !! :mrgreen:
Now I offer this explanation on last season:
I draw an analogy between the 2005 Packer offense and "a Platoon".
By definition:
A platoon is a military unit. In an army, a platoon is a unit of thirty to forty soldiers typically commanded by a lieutenant... assisted by a ...
non-commissioned officer.
If you were yourself to look at OUR Starting offense last season... as a platoon.
That platoon has been assembeled and drilled and hardened and enabled/ready... ready for the consequences or reality's of battle Vs. an enemy that has one serious objective against every member of that platoon.Compromise the platoon's strength.
It's members (the platoon's) in their loyalty and duty to one another - have a common objective. To act effectively in protecting on another and achieving successful outcomes, based on certain plans of the Higher Command.
What that means in layman's terms is that...
Each member of the platoon has a personal interest in not letting the other fella down, and not becoming a victim of adversity or getting his/her ass in a sling and consequently his fellow platoon members... ass shot off.
In 2005 we had too many of OUR first line offense and second and third line offense get theis ass's in a sling that had an inevitable impact of outcomes as all that remained was...
a lieutenant (OUR QB, Brett Favre)... assisted by a non-commissioned officer, let's give that fella a name and that's...
WR Donald Driver.
Brett Favre and Donald Driver still maintained their scrap throughout 2005 despite overwhelming odds of getting us wins,,, yet they didn't get their ass's shot off !! Really ...???
HOW VERY GOOD FAVRE and DRIVER were last season . If you missed that....
GO PACK GO ! PACKER FAN FAITH and SUPPORT in 2006.
This post is inspired by two of OUR members. On " their reality " regarding the issue on another thread, regarding an event " in the Bengals game this past Monday Night".
A Brett Favre fumble, that led to a TD for " the Bengals ".
I appreciate what that examination of/for the TRUTH does for ALL of us here at PACKERRATS.
You know who YOU are. What side of the fence YOU live on. :idea:
" the REAL ...or...serious Packer fan " ... as another poster express'd it, on a thread one evening last week.
Alot of those here... Thank GOODNESS for PACKERRATS. NOT to imply snobbery nor group posters at PACKERRATS.
We are ONE here I trust, through ONE common chant. GO PACK GO !
Well... then, there's OUR esteemed member Rastak and Minny fan. A solid member and contributor to OUR Packer HOME.
We may learn fr. one another here. Some strong on this or that aspect of football etc.; other's offer us different qualities / strengths that are positive and lead to growth in OUR experience here.
Isn't it about an attitude of open mindedness and maybe alot more?
I try to be here:
My perspective may need some polishing. LIFE... always, a continuous process of trying to find the TRUTH. To grow as a Packer fan at PACKERRATS, but moreso as a person.
That's sometime's a difficult chore. :mrgreen:
This FORUM gets better every week/month in my view PACKERRATS.
OUR PACKER HOME is ALL about OUR combined efforts and contributions to the Big Picture. As Packer fans ,YES... but moreso I trust as human beings/people. How we deal with Green Bay Packer good and bad fortunes is OUR central focus. What truly brings us together.
I appreciate poster's that look at plays on tape over and over, to get the proper perspective... on WHY... that particular result went down.
As a Coach does, as a serious Packer player does i.e. OUR CB Al Harris... to break it down, to see - then work to solve the real problem?
We have people at PACKERRATS that do just that. Then kindly offer that discovered insight for the membership. For all of us to grow as football fans in what happened, but moreso and more importantly...WHY it happened.
Outstanding!
I'm challenged not to blow my stack, when I have to deal with Packer fans that toss down HARD on Packer players, based on a preseason game's results.
What that game was for is alot more valuable than "just a win" and the Rah Rah aftermath of a GREAT VICTORY in another preseason game.
Don't get me wrong.
We needed to get pumped by the result of " the Falcons " game after OUR stinko first preseason game Vs." the Chargers ".
Of course... we realize that " the Chargers " and " the Bengals " are two very solid teams and seriously playoff bound?
What was the agenda of OUR HC /Coach's... the overall focus in that preseason game?
Often, the Coachs are simply trying out things, or using that preseason game to simply and dynamically try certain offensive and defensive schemes. It's not at all about, winning a preseason game at all cost.
Mike McCarthy may be trying /experimenting with Offensive game plans and with OUR Defensive Co-Ordinator seeing what OUR players capability is in cerain Defensive alignments and strategies? What will work best? A man to man set here, and a zone alignment there in real game action.That preseason game's (gameplan) may be skuttled. We have a Rookie HC as a reality and many on his staf are people he's familiar wih but that doesn'r translae to instant success,hardly. We are going to have serious results from growing pains. It will...come with the territory. I believe that.
Is it possible giving OUR talent, to go to this or that defensive format for what will really work best for a positve outcome? Preseason game are that time to try things at no real cost. So we see something that seems OK in one preseason game swapped for another scheme that flops. It's all about input and reaction to a dynamic response. Just part of the process towords playing OUR game once the Regular season rolls up on us.
Some of these schemes utilized in a preseason game are on a mere trial basis, and we may never see that ONE used in a regular season game.
One of my pet peeve's and sorry but here it comes.
Some of my fellow PACKERRAT's are really fast...to get DOWN HARD on OUR future HOFer QB and a Packer LEADER, Brett Favre.
I had to endure it all, in the off season, in regard to his play LAST SEASON. Try to get past that PLEASE. It's gone !!
Try harder to be FAIR to Brett Favre and ALL he has been for us as Packer fans/and remains for " the Green Bay Packers " immediate future.
Karma
I certainly will agree with all you whenever Brett Favre is the problem... when Brett Favre is screwing up... but it started again, during and following the Bengals, just a preseason game
Let's learn TRUTH from anything that Bengals game gave us, move forward with a +ve outlook to Friday Night and beyond that to Sept.10th and "the Chicago Bears".
I too have to constantly remind myself of that. :mrgreen:
It's ALL about OUR FIRST SEASONAL GAME. da Bears....
I was looking at Favre's career and comparing it to ALL the other QB's that exist in the NFL today and I am constantly impressed with what he's done as a PRO QB for us. Brett Favre has given to us...
HE"S " the REAL Deal
As a friend of mine says... " Favre... He's the shit ".
I have had to deal with people's criticisms of Brett Favre and self proclaimed die hard in the mud serious Packer fans amongst them....
that " just want him gone ". I shake my head in total shock and disbelief.
I have to bear the shame of these... sorry... but wear the label as it fits... that are down... (on OUR QB for the past 14 season's).
Brett Favre isn't yesterday's wash water.
I ask this of ALL.
How could any of YOU challenge Favre's professionalism (given his career to date), his attitude, competitiveness, leadership and his strengths as a human being?
Sticking just to " the facts " Ehh !! :mrgreen:
Now I offer this explanation on last season:
I draw an analogy between the 2005 Packer offense and "a Platoon".
By definition:
A platoon is a military unit. In an army, a platoon is a unit of thirty to forty soldiers typically commanded by a lieutenant... assisted by a ...
non-commissioned officer.
If you were yourself to look at OUR Starting offense last season... as a platoon.
That platoon has been assembeled and drilled and hardened and enabled/ready... ready for the consequences or reality's of battle Vs. an enemy that has one serious objective against every member of that platoon.Compromise the platoon's strength.
It's members (the platoon's) in their loyalty and duty to one another - have a common objective. To act effectively in protecting on another and achieving successful outcomes, based on certain plans of the Higher Command.
What that means in layman's terms is that...
Each member of the platoon has a personal interest in not letting the other fella down, and not becoming a victim of adversity or getting his/her ass in a sling and consequently his fellow platoon members... ass shot off.
In 2005 we had too many of OUR first line offense and second and third line offense get theis ass's in a sling that had an inevitable impact of outcomes as all that remained was...
a lieutenant (OUR QB, Brett Favre)... assisted by a non-commissioned officer, let's give that fella a name and that's...
WR Donald Driver.
Brett Favre and Donald Driver still maintained their scrap throughout 2005 despite overwhelming odds of getting us wins,,, yet they didn't get their ass's shot off !! Really ...???
HOW VERY GOOD FAVRE and DRIVER were last season . If you missed that....
GO PACK GO ! PACKER FAN FAITH and SUPPORT in 2006.