SLOCUM IS GONE!

[pbmax]

Goodbye.

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 3m3 minutes ago
McCarthy (1/2): I would like to thank Shawn for all of his contributions over the past 9 years. He was a positive contributor to our success

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 2m2 minutes ago
McCarthy (2/2): ... including helping us win Super Bowl XLV. We wish Shawn, Michelle and their family the best moving forward

[pbmax]

Press Release is short and bittersweet. You know this had to kill him. The Bob Sanders D guys were not his guys and initially he wanted Bates back. Slocum was one of his buddies.


Shawn Slocum released
Posted 6 minutes ago

The Green Bay Packers have released special teams coordinator Shawn Slocum, Head Coach Mike McCarthy announced Friday.

“I would like to thank Shawn for all of his contributions over the past nine years,” McCarthy said. “He was a positive contributor to our success, including helping us win Super Bowl XLV. We wish Shawn, Michelle and their family the best moving forward.”

[Fosco33]

Beat me to it!

Bye bye - don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Freak Out]

About time.

[Joemailman]

http://media.giphy.com/media/hBdKJQwWJ98aI/giphy.gifhttp://media1.giphy.com/media/etmqZvzyywRRS/giphy.gif

[Fosco33]

Where's the sacrificial lamb gif?

[Guiness]

What's the over/under on number of people who thought "don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out"?

It only took throwing away an SB berth to bring this about. Yes, there were a lot of other things that went wrong 2 Sundays ago, but his squad's screwups were a big part of it.

[Tony Oday]

and the peasants rejoice!!!

[Strange Brew]

Happy days are here again! Feels like the end of prohibition!!

[Fosco33]

DanoMac started a Fire Slocum thread in November of 2010~

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 5m5 minutes ago
Zook was lead special teams coach for #Steelers from '96-'98. Seemed like Slocum was on notice when McCarthy hired Zook to be his asst.

Tom Oates ‏@TomOatesWSJ 2m2 minutes ago
Asst. ST coord. Ron Zook, who came on board last year, seems like Packers' logical choice ... well, unless you saw his Illinois teams play.

If Zook was in Pitt. from 96-98, Capers wouldn't know him personally. He was the DC who brought a Championship D to Spurrier.

[Joemailman]

DanoMac started a Fire Slocum thread in November of 2010~

Yep. I started Fire Slocum threads in 2013-2015.

[woodbuck27]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXxIyK4cwYOVr9efCbFwdSN6nibm0ij cg1DPePNCC6PJa74m3SEQ

Shawn Slocum finally gone !

Packer fans are relieved.

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 5m5 minutes ago
Zook was lead special teams coach for #Steelers from '96-'98. Seemed like Slocum was on notice when McCarthy hired Zook to be his asst.

Tom Oates ‏@TomOatesWSJ 2m2 minutes ago
Asst. ST coord. Ron Zook, who came on board last year, seems like Packers' logical choice ... well, unless you saw his Illinois teams play.

If Zook was in Pitt. from 96-98, Capers wouldn't know him personally. He was the DC who brought a Championship D to Spurrier.

For FWIW the Steelers ranked 21st, 16th and 16th in Football Outsiders ST rankings from 1996-1998.

[mraynrand]

Are Hawk and Bostick gonna help him load the truck? nm, Hawk is too weak to lift couches, and Bostick would drop all the nice lamps.

[denverYooper]

Frabjous day!

[Joemailman]

Are Hawk and Bostick gonna help him load the truck? nm, Hawk is too weak to lift couches, and Bostick would drop all the nice lamps.

Jordy showed up to help. Slocum had a nice tiffany lamp that Jordy was supposed to carry out to the truck. And then Bostick grabbed it...

[Rutnstrut]

Now if they would get rid of Brad Jones as well, I would throw one hell of a party.

[KYPack]

Jordy showed up to help. Slocum had a nice tiffany lamp that Jordy was supposed to carry out to the truck. And then Bostick grabbed it...

A "fixed it fer ya" would be...

Bostick destroyed the lamp with his facemask.

[red]

THANK CHRIST

if this would have happened a couple years ago, like everyone in the world knew should have happen, we would be in the super bowl right now

:(

[mraynrand]

THANK CHRIST

if this would have happened a couple years ago, like everyone in the world knew should have happen, we would be in the super bowl right now

:(

I hate to rain on your parade, but you don't know what they next guy will be like.

[TravisWilliams23]

If MM and TT had that little sit around and were brutally honest in their evaluations of the team and coaches, this had to be done. 1/3 of the team was usually a liability in every game and you can't win championships covering special teams mishaps. Truth sometimes hurts but it was what it was....for toooooo long.

[KYPack]

I hope Zook doesn't get the gig.

He seems like a guy who is playing out the string, a former college HC that is on his way down on the career path.

Slocum was Stock's asst & I don't want a Slocum asst.

(The guy I was hoping for, Brad Seely, was snapped up by Jack Del Rio & the Raiders.)

Stub should have looked at him.

[pbmax]

Went through this before with Sherman when he dumped one guy and went with John Bonamego. Bonamego, if memory serves, was the Asst. and then full Coach of the very successful Jacksonville Jaguars ST. Sherman got him and everyone was very excited because McGinn and others had tagged as an up and comer. However, while there was some improvement, Bonamego wasn't a savior. He didn't bring Allen Rossum back with him.

And he has bounced around quite a bit since then, in fact he is now in Detroit trying not to let Jeremy Ross' fumbles drive him to an early grave.

So there is still some work to do. But you would think it can't get worse.

[Pugger]

I hate to rain on your parade, but you don't know what they next guy will be like.

But can the nesxt guy truly be any worse?

I'm glad he's gone but I do feel for his family. Nobody likes to see somebody lose his job.

[Patler]

Had this happened last week, as it normally would have, several highly regarded ST coaches would have been available. Several lost their jobs along with the head coaches for whom they worked, and were quickly signed by other teams. Seely, as mentioned by KYP, also Bobby April who was let go by Oakland, then signed by the Jets. It seems to me there was another, whose name escapes me right now.

[Carolina_Packer]

Well, I guess we'll see how they feel about ol' Zooker as a replacement candidate. I thought it was a bit of a weird move by both Zook and the Packers when he was hired. You typically don't see someone who has been the head coach of two high-profile college programs take a job as a special teams assistant coach in the NFL. That move would seem to be reserved for someone who is young with an ascending career path. But, a man has a right to work, and if he's considered the best man for the job, so be it. At least he has experience. It will be interesting to see whether McCarthy compartmentalizes Zook's contributions to Slocum's results. Personally, after the results from 2014, and years previous to Zook's arrival, I think a complete reboot of special teams staff would be helpful.

Now the question is, who is out there that is qualifed, and could step into the role and make a difference right away? It's one thing to want a clean slate, it's another thing to have someone in mind who can really take over and do the job. Slocum fired...now what?

[Patler]

So, does Slocum land an NFL job of any type anywhere else? Does he go back to the college ranks? It seems experience is valued over results in the NFL, and the same guys get recycled over and over on different staffs.

[red]

is san frans ST coach still available?

[KYPack]

is san frans ST coach still available?

That's one of the guys we are talking about. Brad Seely, he was hired in Oakland by Jack Del Rio.

[pittstang5]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I'm going throw out a name:

Dave Wannstadt

Pittsburgh connection

Coached special teams at Pitt when he was Head coach

Was Special Teams coach for Tampa Bay Bucs (I think for a season under Schiano)

He was with Buffalo, for a spell, now I think he's out of coaching.

Just throwing it out there - I'm not for or against it, it just popped into my head. I don't know why, just popped in there.

[Pugger]

Someone brought this name up on another forum yesterday. How about Keith Armstrong from Mike Smiths' staff in Atlanta?

[mraynrand]

Nobody likes to see somebody lose his job.

all evidence to the contrary! :) ;)

[mraynrand]

It seems experience is valued over results in the NFL

lol

[woodbuck27]

So, does Slocum land an NFL job of any type anywhere else? Does he go back to the college ranks? It seems experience is valued over results in the NFL, and the same guys get recycled over and over on different staffs.

The way he attacked Brandon Bostic on the sideline after Seattle's successful on side kick:

I think that Shawn Slocum has a real future in cage fighting.

[woodbuck27]

But can the nesxt guy truly be any worse?

I'm glad he's gone but I do feel for his family. Nobody likes to see somebody lose his job.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGcd1R8RRtln2UOKo2vk0vdrUg6JUMO Yhv-NWhHPD_hDNL3932TA

MM had better remove any trace of Shawn Slocum's influence on future ST's. After that ...no it cannot be much worse.

Think of it this way Pugger.

That's Slocum's back to that 'green' arrow.

The Slocum family's future may feature an enhanced fast food selection.

[King Friday]

Fabulous.

Now we can move on to Putin and ISIS.

[mraynrand]

Fabulous.

Now we can move on to Putin and ISIS.

You want Putin as special teams coach?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Maybe next year we'll read a story like this about GB...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20150123-eagles-soar-to-first-in-sportsday-s-annual-nfl-special-teams-rankings.ece


Kelly won the NFC East and presided over the NFC’s best offense in his debut season. But that first year was a learning experience and one of the lessons Kelly learned was that he needed better special teams.


Philadelphia finished 18th in the NFL in special teams in 2013, so Kelly undertook a sweeping upgrade last offseason.


Kelly traded for returner Darren Sproles and kicker Cody Parkey and signed a pair of special*-teams coverage aces in free agency, Bryan Braman from the Texans and Chris Maragos from the Seahawks. Kelly also hit on undrafted college free *agent Trey Burton and street free *agent Chris Prosinski for his coverage units.


The changes were dramatic. The Eagles vaulted all the way to the top of the league in special teams, finishing first in the 2014 NFL special*-teams rankings compiled annually by The Dallas Morning News.



Funny, same ST coach.

[pbmax]

You want Putin as special teams coach?

Packers special teams would not wear any identifying badges or uniforms.

[pbmax]

Maybe next year we'll read a story like this about GB...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20150123-eagles-soar-to-first-in-sportsday-s-annual-nfl-special-teams-rankings.ece



Funny, same ST coach.

Yep, personnel makes the big difference.

However, 7 blocked kicks don't happen if the ST coach is doing his job. There may not be a big time KO returner but the lines of both offense and defense are strong enough to form a coherent blocking unit despite injuries.

[denverYooper]

Packers special teams would not wear any identifying badges or uniforms.

They'd probably just work shirtless.

[Bossman641]

So, does Slocum land an NFL job of any type anywhere else? Does he go back to the college ranks? It seems experience is valued over results in the NFL, and the same guys get recycled over and over on different staffs.

This seems more his style

http://news.uwlax.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Blake3.jpg

[sharpe1027]

What will I do on Wednesdays now?

[Packers4Glory]

I'm pausing my football break by posting my sincere joy over this overdue news.

Fuck you Slocum. It's been a long time that someone could suck so long and keep their job in this league

[Pugger]

I'm pausing my football break by posting my sincere joy over this overdue news.

Fuck you Slocum. It's been a long time that someone could suck so long and keep their job in this league

Its been since we kept Starr as our HC for all those years. :-P

[Joemailman]

Maybe next year we'll read a story like this about GB...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20150123-eagles-soar-to-first-in-sportsday-s-annual-nfl-special-teams-rankings.ece


Kelly won the NFC East and presided over the NFC’s best offense in his debut season. But that first year was a learning experience and one of the lessons Kelly learned was that he needed better special teams.


Philadelphia finished 18th in the NFL in special teams in 2013, so Kelly undertook a sweeping upgrade last offseason.


Kelly traded for returner Darren Sproles and kicker Cody Parkey and signed a pair of special*-teams coverage aces in free agency, Bryan Braman from the Texans and Chris Maragos from the Seahawks. Kelly also hit on undrafted college free *agent Trey Burton and street free *agent Chris Prosinski for his coverage units.


The changes were dramatic. The Eagles vaulted all the way to the top of the league in special teams, finishing first in the 2014 NFL special*-teams rankings compiled annually by The Dallas Morning News.

Funny, same ST coach.

The thing is though, they had the same win/loss record despite the vastly improved special teams play. Maybe they should have focused more on upgrading their defense. It is possible to place too much emphasis on special teams. You don't want to be terrible as the Packers were, but you don't have to be great either.

[woodbuck27]

Its been since we kept Starr as our HC for all those years. :-P

LOVE's a funny thing.

[Upnorth]

What will I do on Wednesdays now?

Perhaps a fire brad jones thread.

[Joemailman]

Perhaps a fire brad jones thread.

Teams have until March 10 to be under the salary cap and free agency begins. I think TT will release Jones and his 4.75 mil salary cap hit by then. If not, we may need a thread.

[Rutnstrut]

Teams have until March 10 to be under the salary cap and free agency begins. I think TT will release Jones and his 4.75 mil salary cap hit by then. If not, we may need a thread.

How the fuck could anyone, at anytime think that worthless POS was worth 4.75 million? For all his football intelligence, TT does some baffling shit.

[mraynrand]

How the fuck could anyone, at anytime think that worthless POS was worth 4.75 million? For all his football intelligence, TT does some baffling shit.

what are you talking about?

[channtheman]

8 years too late. MM's job was on the line if he didn't do this.

[pbmax]

8 years too late. MM's job was on the line if he didn't do this.

I do wonder how much Ted has to push. For this or the D makeover before 2009. M3 certainly is loyal. We don't really know and we don't know what would push M3 over the edge. He has never really instituted a firing for reasons solely important to him (that we know of, except maybe Stock to promote Slocum). We don't know how much he would tolerate on his own.

[woodbuck27]

I do wonder how much Ted has to push. For this or the D makeover before 2009. M3 certainly is loyal. We don't really know and we don't know what would push M3 over the edge. He has never really instituted a firing for reasons solely important to him (that we know of, except maybe Stock to promote Slocum). We don't know how much he would tolerate on his own.

This move by Mike McCarthy to dismiss Shawn Slocum was a 'no brainer'.

If Mike Mccarthy had entered next season with Slocum still installed as his ST Co-ordinator. he would have been bare assed open for much criticism; any more crucial screw ups on ST's possibly prompting his demise?

[Pugger]

Teams have until March 10 to be under the salary cap and free agency begins. I think TT will release Jones and his 4.75 mil salary cap hit by then. If not, we may need a thread.

We can only hope...

[Smidgeon]

So who does M3 hire to take Slocum's spot? Does he promote Zook (I hope not) or hire Morton (which would be hilariously ironic but obviously won't happen due to last year's firing and Morton probably not ready yet) or someone else? Who's left? Due to the Packers making it deep into the playoffs and M3's brother dying and therefore stuff getting pushed back even further, the usual pool seems shallow.

An up and comer from somewhere is what I hope. From outside the org.

[pittstang5]

So who does M3 hire to take Slocum's spot? Does he promote Zook (I hope not) or hire Morton (which would be hilariously ironic but obviously won't happen due to last year's firing and Morton probably not ready yet) or someone else? Who's left? Due to the Packers making it deep into the playoffs and M3's brother dying and therefore stuff getting pushed back even further, the usual pool seems shallow.

An up and comer from somewhere is what I hope. From outside the org.

It'll be Zook. MM doesn't go outside his buddy list

[pbmax]

It'll be Zook. MM doesn't go outside his buddy list

I am thinking that is most likely. But you never know, M3 did a full scan for a DC last time.

[KYPack]

It'll be Zook. MM doesn't go outside his buddy list

MM went outside the "family" to hire asst's last season. Sam Gash was a good example of that.

Zook doesn't fire me up, I'd like to see him get a young Turk of some kind at that job.

Slocum probably should have been canned during the season last year.

[Patler]

I am thinking that is most likely. But you never know, M3 did a full scan for a DC last time.

He did. He wanted to hire a buddy, but ended up with Capers, who he said he didn't know at all before their initial interview.

[Patler]

Is the ST coordinator now at the level of the OC and DC, the next level below the headcoach (and maybe the assistant headcoach)?

Would Special Teams Coordinator be a promotion for Edgar Bennett???????

[mraynrand]

Is the ST coordinator now at the level of the OC and DC, the next level below the headcoach (and maybe the assistant headcoach)?

Would Special Teams Coordinator be a promotion for Edgar Bennett???????

no. ST is where maxed out coaches go to die - think Nolan Cromwell.

It's QB coach then coordinator for Edgar, maybe skipping QB coach. He's on a trajectory for HC in five years or less.

[Patler]

no. ST is where maxed out coaches go to die - think Nolan Cromwell.

It's QB coach then coordinator for Edgar, maybe skipping QB coach. He's on a trajectory for HC in five years or less.

When Cromwell was the Packers' ST coach he was a neophyte in the coaching ranks. Are you suggesting they get him back?

ST in the past was almost an entry level position, but I think that has changed over the years. Now it is common to have 1 or 2 assistants under the ST coordinator, and/or a quality control guy helping out. He has his own "staff". The position used to be a "coach", now it is "coordinator".

It has been said that MM used Slocum as his sideline assistant, maybe because of a personal relationship, but also because the ST coordinator doesn't have a lot of in game strategy to be concerned with, unlike the O and D coaches that have to strategize.

I agree with your recommended path for Bennett, but I think ST coordinator could also, in today's game, offer another step up for him, and maybe keep him around a while longer.

[pbmax]

He did. He wanted to hire a buddy, but ended up with Capers, who he said he didn't know at all before their initial interview.

Nolan was supposedly the first choice, but M3 told Haslett to wait. In between he offered Gregg Williams and Capers. Neither had a past history with him.

And he and Nolan were together for only one year. I don't think they had a background together before that.

[pbmax]

ST used to be coached by a position coach or a head coach. It was the last group to get a coordinator.

[Patler]

ST used to be coached by a position coach or a head coach. It was the last group to get a coordinator.

Yup. It went from being a side job for someone with other primary coaching responsibilities, to being just a singular "coach" who might also help out with another position, to being a coach with no other significant responsibilities (This is what it was during the '90s) to now being a "coordinator" position with dedicated special teams assistants under him.

That said, and with no disrespect to special teamers, I have a hard time understanding what a Special Teams Coordinator and one or two assistants do all day long during the season, let alone in the off-season.

Of course, I have a hard time seeing the need for 20 coaches in a sport played by 11 on O and D.

How long before we see "O-line Assistant - Centers", "O-line Assistant - Guards" and "O-line Assistant Tackles"? Can further specialization to "Left Tackles" and "Right Tackles" be far off?

Long snapping, hold, punting and kicking are significantly different skils and responsibilities. Shouldn't there be at least three assistants (lets ignore kickoffs, for now!)

But I digress...............


Make EB the STC. Performance would certainly improve.

[pbmax]

Edgar being mentioned reminds me of something I have been wondering. Any chance that the lifelong running back is having trouble teaching releases off the LOS by his receivers?

Jimmy Robinson, former WR coach, played the position and Driver and Jennings rarely had trouble releasing off the line, though as each aged, they also got to play more in the slot. Teams, including the Packers at times, go to great lengths to get off the line, but it seems to be more of a struggle these days.

[Patler]

Edgar being mentioned reminds me of something I have been wondering. Any chance that the lifelong running back is having trouble teaching releases off the LOS by his receivers?

Jimmy Robinson, former WR coach, played the position and Driver and Jennings rarely had trouble releasing off the line, though as each aged, they also got to play more in the slot. Teams, including the Packers at times, go to great lengths to get off the line, but it seems to be more of a struggle these days.

Two comments:

First, I think part of the problem is that they are seeing more and more big cornerbacks, as teams realize they need bigger guys to go up against the big WRs that are becoming more common, and since teams like Seattle have proven that bigger cornerbacks can still be very effective, if you chose wisely.

The other comment I have is from an article near the end of the season. Maybe it was even after the Dallas game. Rodgers commented about Adams, and one thing he mentioned was how much he had improved in releasing off the LOS. I remember it, because I thought it was an especially good sign for a rookie WR adapting to play in the NFL.

[KYPack]

no. ST is where maxed out coaches go to die - think Nolan Cromwell.

It's QB coach then coordinator for Edgar, maybe skipping QB coach. He's on a trajectory for HC in five years or less.

Well, not always. Cromwell was seen as a real up and comer until he became a ST coach.

I'd like a type of coach.

John Harbaugh comes to mind. A detail guy with some fire.

I don't know who would be the right guy, but I'm hoping we get "that guy".

[Bossman641]

Edgar being mentioned reminds me of something I have been wondering. Any chance that the lifelong running back is having trouble teaching releases off the LOS by his receivers?

Jimmy Robinson, former WR coach, played the position and Driver and Jennings rarely had trouble releasing off the line, though as each aged, they also got to play more in the slot. Teams, including the Packers at times, go to great lengths to get off the line, but it seems to be more of a struggle these days.

Not that I disagree, but who do you see struggling with the release? Cobb normally gets off pretty good, but he has the advantage of normally being in the slot. Nelson gets tied up from time to time. After Adams the other WR were so worthless I can't even really grade them.

[Carolina_Packer]

I agree with your recommended path for Bennett, but I think ST coordinator could also, in today's game, offer another step up for him, and maybe keep him around a while longer.

Plus MM seems to like to cross-train his coaches. Outside looking in, you'd wonder why a head coach would appoint a running back to coach receivers, but he's a big believer in cross-training, which if you think about it builds the resume up to perhaps someday be a HC.

[Freak Out]

I think they should hire Chuck Cecil to run special teams. :)

[pbmax]

Not that I disagree, but who do you see struggling with the release? Cobb normally gets off pretty good, but he has the advantage of normally being in the slot. Nelson gets tied up from time to time. After Adams the other WR were so worthless I can't even really grade them.

Slot guys have an easier time with the release. Thinking about Jordy mainly and Boykin as well. Can't say I know about Adams yet. Mostly the struggle with getting open early versus tight man.

[mraynrand]

I think they should hire Chuck Cecil to run special teams. :)

Franchise-killing!

[pbmax]

Zook is top candidate according to Bob who is apparently speaking to the one veteran coordinator currently available (Joe Marciano).

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ron-zook-in-line-to-get-packers-special-teams-top-job-b99438674z1-290711531.html

Also some non-specific blame passing:


"It also reflects on the head coach," one coordinator said. "They've done it a long time and haven't been very good. I guess you could lay it all on Shawn but they don't have great special teams personnel.

"Other thing, they've changed the assistants forever there. We used to laugh about that. They fire the assistants. Like, what are they doing that for?"

So is it the hiring and firing or the personnel? No one knows, they are just laughing.

[woodbuck27]

MM went outside the "family" to hire asst's last season. Sam Gash was a good example of that.

Zook doesn't fire me up, I'd like to see him get a young Turk of some kind at that job.

Slocum probably should have been canned during the season last year.

Somewhere I read here that Shawn Slocum was on notice after last season and Ron Zook was brought in to replace Chad Morton.

I'd like to see something to support that claim.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Zook is top candidate according to Bob who is apparently speaking to the one veteran coordinator currently available (Joe Marciano).

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ron-zook-in-line-to-get-packers-special-teams-top-job-b99438674z1-290711531.html

Also some non-specific blame passing:



So is it the hiring and firing or the personnel? No one knows, they are just laughing.

I love Mel Kiper Jr's comment. 'McCarthy's bag of fail is bottomless'...

[Joemailman]

I love Mel Kiper Jr's comment. 'McCarthy's bag of fail is bottomless'...

Wow. I wonder what he says about Marc Trestman. Hope MM can handle the humiliation of not having Mel Kiper's support.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Devin Smith, WR from Ohio State, is working his way up my draft list. Not only is the guy a spectacular deep ball threat, but check this out from his NFL Draft Tracker scouting profile:
(http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/devin-smith?id=2552459)

Might have been the best gunner in college football.

[KYPack]

Devin Smith, WR from Ohio State, is working his way up my draft list. Not only is the guy a spectacular deep ball threat, but check this out from his NFL Draft Tracker scouting profile:
(http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/devin-smith?id=2552459)

Maxie raises an interesting point.

Who was doing the evals on our ST personnel?

For 4-5 years, the last cuts would have language that so & so was kept or cut bc of his ability (or lack of it) on ST.

Maybe the coach that couldn't defend fake kicks didn't know squat about what comprises a good ST man.

Hopefully, the new guy will come up with better troops to block kicks and get some returns out of our team.

[George Cumby]

Does Slocum get a Super Bowl Ring from the Patriots? Just wondering.

[Bossman641]

Zook is the new ST coordinator. Barrington broke the news over twitter

[woodbuck27]

Zook is the new ST coordinator. Barrington broke the news over twitter

Sure...keep it simple and try that for what?..... 5-6 seasons.

He's after all.... just the assistant last season.

I wonder what the guarantee was (for Mike McCarthy) that he'll get it done in 2015 Vs every other possible candidate in the American Football World?

[esoxx]

Zook is the new ST coordinator. Barrington broke the news over twitter

Franchise killer!

[Joemailman]

Looks like Sam may have jumped the gun:


Sam B @Sam_Barrington_ · 3h 3 hours ago

My tweet earlier was not official. It stemmed from an article I read.

[Rutnstrut]

Looks like Sam may have jumped the gun:


Sam B @Sam_Barrington_ · 3h 3 hours ago

My tweet earlier was not official. It stemmed from an article I read.

Not the sharpest tool in the shed, is he?

[mraynrand]

Franchise killer!

lol

[woodbuck27]

Mike McCarthy is reading Packerrats.

[mraynrand]

Mike McCarthy is reading Packerrats.

Delbert Shims?

[woodbuck27]

Delbert Shims?

shhhh

[woodbuck27]

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/packers-2014-season-review/2015/2/6/7993227/packers-2014-season-review-grading-the-specialists

Packers 2014 Season Review: Grading the Specialists

By Evan "Tex" Western  @TexWestern on Feb 6 2015, 3:00 PM

[woodbuck27]

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2015/2/4/7974849/packers-ron-zook-shawn-slocum-special-teams-coordinator

Packers expected to promote Ron Zook to special teams Coordinator, per report

By Jason B. Hirschhorn and Evan "Tex" Western on Feb 5 2015, 3:23 PM


"Ron's a dynamic guy," an NFL special teams coach said Tuesday. "Full of piss and vinegar. He was so ambitious before. He was always looking for that next job. Now he'll probably do a better job coaching special teams."


"He's a real positive, upbeat guy," another NFL special teams coach said Tuesday. "He was always labeled a great recruiter in college, and you can see why.

"I always think that can reflect in coaching. As a special teams coach you've got to ask guys to do stuff they don't want to do. So, they better be on your side."


Comment woodbuck27:

I wonder why MM is waiting to officially announce this is a fact?

MM doesn't strike me as a second thought sort of fella.

Tomorrow it will be the 1st anniversary of Ron 'The Zooker' Zook being hired as a Packer Assistant ST Coach.

Maybe MM is sentimental and likes formality?