Official Super Bowl XLIX Thread

[Joemailman]

Yes, I know it doesn't really matter, but they're going to play the game anyway.

Brady, although not mobile, won't be hobbled as Rodgers was.

Patriots 27
Seahawks 23

[MadtownPacker]

All I give a fuck about is the last numbers of score at the end of each quarter.

[mraynrand]

I made a bet on whether or not Katy Perry shows cleavage. In retrospect it was a sucker bet because some other dude is deciding what constitutes cleavage. But, I bet she wouldn't, so either way, I win.

[Guiness]

I made a bet on whether or not Katy Perry shows cleavage. In retrospect it was a sucker bet because some other dude is deciding what constitutes cleavage. But, I bet she wouldn't, so either way, I win.

I think she does - she'll do a costume change, probably a couple, and you have to think at least one will feature that asset.

I'm torn about who to pull for. The answer I can't get away from is 'neither'.

[esoxx]

This thread is like rubbing salt in an open wound.

[woodbuck27]

I think she does - she'll do a costume change, probably a couple, and you have to think at least one will feature that asset.

I'm torn about who to pull for. The answer I can't get away from is 'neither'.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6jD8pCyjgsqivKMjHmoGFgZDVEuxbe dxDoMnsayj1gulGCzHc

Mom and Dad will be watching.

I predict some candy on stage.

[mraynrand]

If you're gonna put on a red dress, ya gotta know how to wear it:

http://celebs-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/rita-orain-arrived-in-red-dress-at-2014-mtv-vma-awards-_5.jpg

[Joemailman]

Bring back Elmo!

http://media.giphy.com/media/PGvMzPc1IPI3e/giphy.gif

[woodbuck27]

Post #8.

This falls into the category of:

" Isn't life strange and weird ".

People are 'actually wondering' if Katy Perry has had a breast augmentation.

[Striker]

Seahawks - 35
Patriots - 21

[Teamcheez1]

I hate the Seahags, but I would prefer to see Brady get pounded this evening.

[pbmax]

Seahawks win very similar game to Packers game. However, they can't turn it over 5 times versus Hoody and Brady. But I expect the Seattle D to slow down the Pats and Seattle's offense to wear down the Pat D.

[pbmax]

Our first game day scandal:

Ray Ratto ‏@RattoCSN 36m36 minutes ago
YES!!!! RT @RJinVegas: Multiple MAX bets on OVER 122.5 secs (length of Anthem). Insider info suspected. Betting suspended by sportsbook.ag

[pbmax]

Second Game Day scandal, Crash Davis aka Bill Belichick looking to get a rain delay:

Tom E. Curran ‏@tomecurran 3h3 hours ago
Few notes from the field courtesy of Moose our cameraman. Outside the hashes very wet. Blowers being used. Seattle folks unnerved.

[woodbuck27]

I just want to see a great game.

A real battle and whichever team has the ball last ..... win.

[Striker]

The Seahawks' charmed life continues.


Item 1: Roughing the kicker. It is a foul for roughing the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the plant leg of the kicker while his kicking leg is still in the air; or
(b) slides into or contacts the kicker when both of the kicker's feet are on the ground. It is not a foul if the contact is not severe, or if the kicker returns both feet to the ground prior to the contact and falls over a defender who is on the ground.
Note: When in doubt, it is a foul for roughing the kicker.

[Striker]

Good throw, Tom.

[SMBASS]

Trying to watch the game but I really can't stand either one of these teams or their coaches. No way for me to be happy about the outcome regardless of who wins.

Nice drive by the Pats and Brady throws a pic at the goal line. Guess the Seahag good luck charm is still intact.

[Rastak]

This place is dead as a door nail.

[Cheesehead Craig]

This place is dead as a door nail.

We're waiting for Katy Perry

[SMBASS]

N.E. might want to try blocking Michael Bennett. He's been the most disruptive D player for Seattle.

T.D. N.E.......They're moving the ball pretty easily on the vaunted Seahag D so far.

[Striker]

N.E. might want to try blocking Michael Bennett. He's been the most disruptive D player for Seattle.

T.D. N.E.......They're moving the ball pretty easily on the vaunted Seahag D so far.

They're attacking underneath and taking what Seattle will give them.

AKA playing patient. Something the Packers don't always do.

[SMBASS]

Lot of very blatant holding by both offensive lines that isn't being called. Jones was just visibly held while sacking Wilson.

[Rastak]

We're waiting for Katy Perry

I must be getting old.....I want to listen to Lenny Kravitz who has more talent in his little finger than Katy has in her whole body.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Wait, Katy's going to sing? I'm going to mute the TV. Even the ads are boring so far.

[Rastak]

Wait, Katy's going to sing? I'm going to mute the TV. Even the ads are boring so far.


Good call, I did that with Shania Twain a few years ago and it worked great.

[Striker]

Gronk says - an LB on me? LOL okay.

[Joemailman]

Kind of a slow start, but this is getting pretty good.

[Guiness]

This place is dead as a door nail.

Sorry mate, just watching.

Ok, they're showing Collingsworth. Check shirt and stripped tie? I'm an engineer, and even I know better than THAT.

[mraynrand]

So far Capers outperformed Belicheat through one half.

[mraynrand]

Sorry mate, just watching.

Ok, they're showing Collingsworth. Check shirt and stripped tie? I'm an engineer, and even I know better than THAT.

attempting to be unique

[mraynrand]

This place is dead as a door nail.

https://catsonfilm.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/postman03.jpg

[Rastak]

Sorry mate, just watching.

Ok, they're showing Collingsworth. Check shirt and stripped tie? I'm an engineer, and even I know better than THAT.



:-)

[Jimx29]

All I give a fuck about is the last numbers of score at the end of each quarter.
Agreed, and the awful 0 and 0 has come through for me. :glug:

[Rastak]

Kind of a slow start, but this is getting pretty good.


Very interesting game.....Wilson not impressing too much but his boys are getting it done.

[Striker]

Very interesting game.....Wilson not impressing too much but his boys are getting it done.

I think the coverage by the Patriots on the TD play was terrible. Giving that huge cushion and basically saying "here, walk into the end zone" doesn't seem like a winning play.

[Guiness]

My observations so far: Seattle is not all that. NE is badly outplaying them, and Seattle doesn't seem to have an answer. I think we saw it in the game against the Packers, and we're seeing more of it here, they are more than vulnerable. Yes, they somehow scored on two quick hitters, but I just don't see how that is maintainable.

Oh. And shoot that damn stupid dog already.

Katy's on. I like it, love the puppeteer thing!

[Rastak]

Halftime show sucks......where's Lenny?

[Striker]

So, does this count as cleavage?

[smuggler]

So, Patriots seriously outplaying Seachickens, but somehow the score is tied. Basically exactly like the NFC championship. :/

[Guiness]

And there goes the prop bet - beach ball boobs and the cleavage is in full display.

[Rastak]

So, Patriots seriously outplaying Seachickens, but somehow the score is tied. Basically exactly like the NFC championship. :/


Shame on the Pats.....

[Maxie the Taxi]

http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/27/2769/KZJTD00Z/posters/doris-day.jpg

Katy who?

[Bossman641]

Katy perry outfits were underwhelming

[Rastak]

Katy perry outfits were underwhelming

As was the music.

[Joemailman]

So far the 2 leading candidates are Tom Brady and ...Chris Matthews?

[pbmax]

They're attacking underneath and taking what Seattle will give them.

AKA playing patient. Something the Packers don't always do.

It would help if the Packers had Vereen. Thought Harris would be that.

Packers don't run a lot of crosses or short outs.

[Joemailman]

As was the music.

Would you rather hear Paul McCartney sing Lady Madonna for the 30,000th time?:wink:

[Rastak]

Wtf?

[Rastak]

Would you rather hear Paul McCartney sing Lady Madonna for the 30,000th time?:wink:


God yes.

[pbmax]

attempting to be unique

Checked shirts with tie and jacket are a thing now.

So unique in that many are being unique at the same time.

[pbmax]

So, does this count as cleavage?

Yeah.

[mraynrand]

Doris Day, Max? seriously?

How 'bout an actual alternative Kate:

http://moviestarmakeover.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/pencil-hepburn.jpg

[pbmax]

Would you rather hear Paul McCartney sing Lady Madonna for the 30,000th time?:wink:

I agree. I normally don't get these observations right, but I believe she was singing live which is something most don't do in a venue like this.

[mraynrand]

Yeah.

there goes 50 bucks. But I made a killing on "I kissed a girl" 25:1 odds and I wagered $100.

[pbmax]

First half I agree with Harbaugh and Harrison, Seattle needs to find an answer on D or this game will not stay in reach, Wilson magic or not.

[Rastak]

I agree. I normally don't get these observations right, but I believe she was singing live which is something most don't do in a venue like this.


The flying around thing was sorta cool.....that's all I'll give it.

[pbmax]

Guess who Aaron Schatz is rooting for? :lol:

Aaron Schatz ‏@FO_ASchatz 6m6 minutes ago Arizona, USA
Matthews gets away with blatant OPI there.

[pbmax]

The flying around thing was sorta cool.....that's all I'll give it.

Its for teenagers.

[pbmax]

Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 2h2 hours ago
Slant/flat from Pats a few times. Pats trying to challenge the overhang defenders for SEA - not necessarily the corners

[Rastak]

Its for teenagers.


The whole damn thing was.....Lenny was a small bone.

[Maxie the Taxi]

But Hepburn couldn't sing either.

[pbmax]

Stop playing man on Gronk Pete.

[Rastak]

And then......

[pbmax]

Zone on Gronk and bad throw. It was late.

[pbmax]

But Hepburn couldn't sing either.

I'd pay to watch her act. Not at halftime though.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Packers' superior OL is obvious. Great play by Wagner.

[Rastak]

Wtf is the Matthews deal.....

[pbmax]

Packers' superior OL is obvious. Great play by Wagner.

In pass pro, absolutely.

[Rastak]

He was sorta open......

[woodbuck27]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Matthews_(American_football)#Winnipeg_Blue_B ombers

Seattle WR Chris Matthews

Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the CFL.

Matthews signed with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the Canadian Football League (CFL) for the 2012 season. In his rookie year, he played in all 18 games of the regular season, and compiled 1,192 yards with seven touchdowns en route to winning the 2012 CFL's Most Outstanding Rookie Award.

During the 2013 season, Matthews' performance was hampered by a serious turf toe injury which caused him to miss all but four games of the regular season. He finished the season with only 14 catches for 138 yards and only 1 touchdown.[citation needed] Matthews was released by the Blue Bombers. He worked in a Foot Locker store and as a security guard.

[Maxie the Taxi]

This could turn into a rout fast.

[pbmax]

Seahawks have adjusted on O.

Baldwin ran a post. The post was the Umpire.

[mraynrand]

So does Brady have an injured calf, or does he all of the sudden just suck?

[Joemailman]

Patriots aren't tackling good enough to beat Seattle.

[mraynrand]

Capers >>> Belicheat (22 to 24 - so far)

[Joemailman]

So does Brady have an injured calf, or does he all of the sudden just suck?

Ball's overinflated.

[pbmax]

Anyone see what happened to Avril?

[Maxie the Taxi]

You have to hand it to Pete Carroll. I don't think Belicheat game-planned for Chris Mathews.

[Pugger]

Seahawks win very similar game to Packers game. However, they can't turn it over 5 times versus Hoody and Brady. But I expect the Seattle D to slow down the Pats and Seattle's offense to wear down the Pat D.

It appears Brady is the one turning it over.

[pbmax]

So does Brady have an injured calf, or does he all of the sudden just suck?

He lost his fire and is too emotional.

Also old.

[woodbuck27]

Here they go.

TD D.Baldwin 3 yd. pass from R.Wilson (S.Hauschka kick is good) Drive: 6 plays, 50 yards in 3:13

Seattle up by 10.

Seattle 24 - New England 14.

[Guiness]

Um, was that Jublia commercial for real, or just something they subbed in up north here?

[Pugger]

We're waiting for Katy Perry


Was it worth the wait? :-P

[pbmax]

You have to hand it to Pete Carroll. I don't think Belicheat game-planned for Chris Mathews.

Agree. You could see that when Browner suddenly had him in coverage.

Begs the question though, was he really saving him for the Super Bowl?

[woodbuck27]

He lost his fire and is too emotional.

Also old.

"I'll be back !" Tom Brady

[pbmax]

Um, was that Jublia commercial for real, or just something they subbed in up north here?

Nope international. I did like the T-Mobile jokes though.

[Joemailman]

If Patriots lose, will their fans give Brady a free pass?

[mraynrand]

I'm forming this new hypothesis. These great QBs, all of the sudden start playing like crap, and it involved Seattle in some way. When I know more, I'll fill you in.

[Pugger]

As was the music.

That was music?

[pbmax]

NE is holding to keep Seachickens off Brady.

[pbmax]

I'm forming this new hypothesis. These great QBs, all of the sudden start playing like crap, and it involved Seattle in some way. When I know more, I'll fill you in.

I'll help you fill out the grant. :D

[woodbuck27]

" Show me the money." Russell Wilson

[Cheesehead Craig]

Seattle can't cover Gronk, why not throw to him every down?

[Rastak]

That was music?


Only by a very loose definition.

[Pugger]

If Patriots lose, will their fans give Brady a free pass?

They usually do.

[Cheesehead Craig]

TD here for Seattle will pretty much clinch it.

[Rastak]

" Show me the money." Russell Wilson


Insult if you are referencing Johnny Rotten.

[Pugger]

Seattle can't cover Gronk, why not throw to him every down?

Really. Nobody it seems can cover that guy.

[Joemailman]

I'm forming this new hypothesis. These great QBs, all of the sudden start playing like crap, and it involved Seattle in some way. When I know more, I'll fill you in.

Russell Wilson is 10-0 against Super Bowl winning quarterbacks. It has nothing to do with the Seattle defense, if that is what you are inferring.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Watching the Pats' receivers, really makes me want to resign Cobb for whatever it takes.

[pbmax]

" Show me the money." Russell Wilson

NFL said Rodgers $22 mil per year was the starting point for them.

[Pugger]

NFL said Rodgers $22 mil per year was the starting point for them.

If they show Wilson and Lynch the money they want I suspect they're gonna have cap issues in the future.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Seattle plays football like the NFL from the early 80's. Real good defense, solid run game, and throw the ball downfield. There's not much short stuff. Difference is that Wilson is really mobile.

[Rastak]

Kearse fucked it up.

[pbmax]

Seattle plays football like the NFL from the early 80's. Real good defense, solid run game, and throw the ball downfield. There's not much short stuff. Difference is that Wilson is really mobile.

They also do the Tebow version of pass routes where they always are targeting the single coverage running away from the defender, not quick cuts. Gives the QB the largest possible window if he has time to wait.

[woodbuck27]

TD here for Seattle will pretty much clinch it.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3iMiYKfuNsOqD2fr6Csbve-EEZTdRPujoXBlcKv-nIb2UWUTFEg

L to R Bobby Wagner; Richard Sherman;

Byron Maxwell; Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas

[pbmax]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3iMiYKfuNsOqD2fr6Csbve-EEZTdRPujoXBlcKv-nIb2UWUTFEg

L to R Bobby Wagner; Richard Sherman;

Byron Maxwell; Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas

C'mon now. Dogs of Defense is the Browns trademark.

[Cheesehead Craig]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3iMiYKfuNsOqD2fr6Csbve-EEZTdRPujoXBlcKv-nIb2UWUTFEg

L to R Bobby Wagner; Richard Sherman;

Byron Maxwell; Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas

Pretty sure that's just a picture of some dogs

[Cheesehead Craig]

Blount has a tear away jersey, he makes that

[Rastak]

Pretty sure that's just a picture of some dogs



After reviewing it, I think you are right.

[woodbuck27]

C'mon now. Dogs of Defense is the Browns trademark.

Ohh Yea I forgot:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUfnkbDgae-9zQPfzfP7_7cIFwQ_K1t67csdK0J7XQ89nTaw3B

SORRY.

[woodbuck27]

Pretty sure that's just a picture of some dogs

That was really funny. I'm dieing laughing here.

[pbmax]

I might have to stop watching TV.

[woodbuck27]

Let's see if the Seahawks learned from the Packers.

How not to finish.

[woodbuck27]

This game seems like it's flying.

Edelman took a shot there.

[pbmax]

I don't think Edelman survived that Kam hit. He's still walking because his mind doesn't know he is unconscious.

[pbmax]

OPI on La Fell.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I don't think Edelman survived that Kam hit. He's still walking because his mind doesn't know he is unconscious.

You know, I think he really does have a concussion

[Rastak]

No inside pressure.

[pbmax]

No inside pressure.

Lots of stunting.

[Rastak]

Lots of stunting.

Too much it seems....

[woodbuck27]

"I'll be back !" Tom Brady

I thought you would Tom.

7:55 Remaining in the 4th Qtr.:

TD D.Amendola 4 yd. pass from T.Brady (S.Gostkowski kick is good) Drive: 9 plays, 68 yards in 4:15

Seattle 24 - New England 21

With that TD Tom Brady now has the most TD's passing in Super Bowl history with 12 passing Joe Montana.

[woodbuck27]

Tom Brady smells the beans after that quick Seattle 3 and out.

Seattle 24 - New England 21 with 6:52 remaining in the 4th Qtr.

[Guiness]

NE is holding to keep Seachickens off Brady.

Not the Hawks, Bennett. He's been a one man gang out there.

[Rastak]

So does Wilson have it in him?

[pbmax]

I'd have more sympathy for the claim of OPI if the defender didn't commit illegal contact to the helmet prior to it.

[pbmax]

So does Wilson have it in him?

He does. Do his receivers?

Lynch isn't much of a factor with 2 minutes remaining.

[Pugger]

My goodness I didn't think NE could come back here.

[woodbuck27]

TD J.Edelman 3 yd. pass from T.Brady (S.Gostkowski kick is good) Drive: 10 plays, 64 yards in 4:50

New England 28 - Seattle 24

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
T. Brady 37/50 328 4 2

37 Completions is a Super Bowl Record.

[Rastak]

Nice toss....

[pbmax]

He does. Do his receivers?

Lynch isn't much of a factor with 2 minutes remaining.

Just like I said. Lynch can't be a factor :roll:

[pbmax]

My goodness I didn't think NE could come back here.

2 great drives.

[pbmax]

Late throw that time.

[woodbuck27]

Seattle has the ball at the NE 49 yard line after a 31 yard pass...Russell Wilson to Marshawn Lynch.

The two minute warning.

[Rastak]

Fucking blew that time out.

[woodbuck27]

2nd and 10...Seattle uses it's 1st TO.

[pbmax]

Another late throw.

[pbmax]

Freeman catch. Oh my God.

[woodbuck27]

Seattle goes for the bundle and misses.

[Guiness]

Just like I said. Lynch can't be a factor :roll:

http://www.abbotsfordtoday.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Eat-Crow-300x336.jpg

Don't worry, you had a lot of company!

[Maxie the Taxi]

Do you let them score?

[Rastak]

What a catch.......unreal....

[woodbuck27]

Javon Kearse makes a Antonio Freeman style circus catch at the NE 5 Yard line.

https://www.google.ca/search?newwindow=1&site=webhp&source=hp&q=packers+freeman+catch&oq=Packers+Freeman&gs_l=hp.1.0.0l2j0i22i30l2j0i22i10i30j0i22i30l3.168 1.6257.0.8935.15.14.0.1.1.0.481.1646.5j7j4-1.13.0.msedr...0...1c.1.61.hp..1.14.1668.wUoihu9hy iI

[Striker]

That horseshoe up Seattle's ass. Unreal.

[woodbuck27]

What a catch.......unreal....

That should have been a deja Vu experience for you.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The Butler did it!

[Rastak]

Nice job Russ..............

[Maxie the Taxi]

To answer my question: NO, you don't let them score!

[pbmax]

Wow.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Collinsort is having a coronary over the call

[woodbuck27]

Seattle had three cracks with Marshawn Lynch from the 1 yard line and choked it away.

[Teamcheez1]

And I thought MM made some bone-headed play calls. That takes the prize for the stupidest call of the year.

Russel Wilson has not impressed me the last two games. He gets way too many props.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Seattle started that shit.

[Maxie the Taxi]

KARMA!:-)

[woodbuck27]

WOW!

What a mess that was.

It looked like hockey.

It's going to end: New England 28 - Seattle 24.

Tom Brady should be MVP; his third.

[pbmax]

Well, the Packers beat the eventual Super Bowl Champions.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Well, the Packers beat the eventual Super Bowl Champions.

You might as well say we beat the runner-up Super Bowl champion as well.

[Joemailman]

What was more unlikely? Ending of the NFC Title Game or Super Bowl?

[smuggler]

Super Bowl ending was more likely. But, it's done. Enjoy the slight justice of this game. Brady will likely retire.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Finally, the ball bounced the wrong way for the Seachickens.

[pbmax]

What was more unlikely? Ending of the NFC Title Game or Super Bowl?

I would call it even.

Collingsworth had it right though. If that DB read the route wrong, someone was going to walk into the end zone. He wasn't wrong though and he ran the route better than the WR.

[yetisnowman]

I could not be happier right now, barring a Packer title obviously. The seahawks have quickly cemented their place as my least favorite team in the NFL. Poor Russ, I guess God loved the cheaters a little more than you today big guy. See you next year!

[Joemailman]

Yes, I know it doesn't really matter, but they're going to play the game anyway.

Brady, although not mobile, won't be hobbled as Rodgers was.

Patriots 27
Seahawks 23

Close.

[mraynrand]

Geez, that couldn't have happened to a more unlikeable guy. enjoy the press conference, Pete.

[RashanGary]

I guess Aaron Rodgers was right with his suspicion..... apparently God is not a Seahawks fan.

[red]

WHOOP

is it over? i didn't watch one second of shitbowl

[pbmax]

I guess Aaron Rodgers was right with his suspicion..... apparently God is not a Seahawks fan.

TV told me God's smart phone is wonky this week. His message might not have gotten through.

[pbmax]

Jeff Blumb ‏@jeffblumb 6m6 minutes ago
The Bob McGinn curse strikes again. #Bevell

Brian Burke ‏@Adv_NFL_Stats 4m4 minutes ago
Brady .87 WPA. Deserves MVP.

[pbmax]

http://i.imgur.com/n6vMfy7.gif

[Striker]

I've never been so happy to see another team lose.

Well, maybe the Vikings in 2009.

[Joemailman]

David Bakhtiari ‏@DBak69 4m4 minutes ago
Couldn't be happier! The right team wins and true colors are shown. #havesomeclass

[Joemailman]

TJ Lang @TJLang70 · 15m 15 minutes ago
I hope Gronk jumps on a police bike and rides it thru Seattle's locker room.

[woodbuck27]

Well, the Packers beat the eventual Super Bowl Champions.

Rah Rah rah

[red]

David Bakhtiari ‏@DBak69 4m4 minutes ago
Couldn't be happier! The right team wins and true colors are shown. #havesomeclass

WHY THE FUCK IS ANY WORTHLESS FUCK FROM OUR TEAM EVEN OPENING THEIR MOUTHS RIGHT NOW?

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TRY AND PULL EACH OTHER HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND TRY AND ATONED FOR THE BULLSHIT YOU ASSHOLES LEFT ON THE FIELD TWO WEEKS AGO

i really do not want to hear peep from anyone of these over paid choke artists until next season

[pbmax]

Especially after not being able to run block those classless Seahawks.

Only place you saw the Packers O line tonight was the ad for Pitch Perfect 2.

[ThunderDan]

Seattle shows how classless they are with the "fight" and ejection after the game was settled.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 29m29 minutes ago
RT @TJLang70: I hope Gronk jumps on a police bike and rides it thru Seattle's locker room.

[pbmax]

ProFootballReference ‏@pfref 26m26 minutes ago
#Seahawks ran 31 plays from 1-yard line over the last 3 seasons. Scored 10 TD on 23 runs, 3 TD on 8 pass plays. Only TO was Lynch fumble

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 10m10 minutes ago
For those burying Bevell. RT @bcondotta Carroll says he made the call not Bevell. "I said throw the ball."

THERE IS NOTHING DUMBER THAN THIS CONVERSATION. THROWING WHEN PEOPLE EXPECT LYNCH TO RUN IS A GOOD CHOICE.

[Strange Brew]

So happy the douchebag birds lost!

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XmMrLZ6c--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/bydhzbqgn5p11s3x0sqh.gif

[red]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 29m29 minutes ago
RT @TJLang70: I hope Gronk jumps on a police bike and rides it thru Seattle's locker room.

i hope tj lang and every other asshole on the team that soiled the uniformed this season gets shipped out of town in the offseason

honestly, don't ever need to see any of the coaches or players wearing green and gold again. i'd rather watch us go full blown rebuild and spend the next 10 years going 1-15 then to watch any of these pussies play for us again

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000467491/article/tom-brady-wins-super-bowl-xlix-mvp-award?module=HP11_cp

Tom Brady wins Super Bowl XLIX MVP award

By Kevin Patra ... Around the NFL writer

Published: Feb. 1, 2015 at 10:15 p.m. ... Updated: Feb. 1, 2015 at 10:48 p.m.

[pbmax]

Eric Kay @ekaycbs
this picture is fantastic

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[pbmax]

Brian Burke ‏@Adv_NFL_Stats 11m11 minutes ago
With 26 sec on 2nd&g, you have to pass at least once to be able to use all 4 downs if necessary. Passing on 2nd keeps NE honest on 3 & 4 dn

Aditi Kinkhabwala ‏@AKinkhabwala 26m26 minutes ago
Marshawn Lynch asked if he's surprised he didn't get the football. Says "No." I ask him, Why not? Says, "Because football is a team sport."

[Joemailman]

i hope tj lang and every other asshole on the team that soiled the uniformed this season gets shipped out of town in the offseason

honestly, don't ever need to see any of the coaches or players wearing green and gold again. i'd rather watch us go full blown rebuild and spend the next 10 years going 1-15 then to watch any of these pussies play for us again

Have another beer Red.

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Andrew Siciliano ‏@AndrewSiciliano 11m11 minutes ago
That was the only interception thrown from the 1-yard line the entire @nfl season.

Rany Jazayerli ‏@jazayerli 9m9 minutes ago
Carroll saved Belichick from being grilled over the inexplicable decision to not call timeout with :45 left. Even Andy Reid was shocked.

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 4m4 minutes ago
And now this. RT @ConorTOrr Darrell Bevell: "I call the plays." The plot thickens.

Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 3m3 minutes ago
.@FieldGulls My guess is Bevell called it but Pete is standing up to take the head (he also didn't say no to call).

[King Friday]

Well....

I guess McCarthy might not be the huge mental midget of coaches that we all thought. Pete Carroll just pulled a Mike Sherman.

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Well....

I guess McCarthy might not be the huge mental midget of coaches that we all thought. Pete Carroll just pulled a Mike Sherman.

and Belichick should have called a TO to stop the clock.

[ThunderDan]

and Belichick should have called a TO to stop the clock.

That's twice in this year's playoffs he made a huge time keeping blunder. He almost lost their first game by taking a knee 3 times and not realizing he coyldn't run out the clock doing that.

[King Friday]

Brian Burke ‏@Adv_NFL_Stats 11m11 minutes ago
With 26 sec on 2nd&g, you have to pass at least once to be able to use all 4 downs if necessary. Passing on 2nd keeps NE honest on 3 & 4 dn

Or you can run it once and win the game.

The advanced statistical analysis of the game of football is such a joke. Claiming you "have" to pass is perhaps one of the most moronic statements I've ever seen. Vince Lombardi would take Brian Burke's analysis and file it right in the trash where it belongs.

[King Friday]

and Belichick should have called a TO to stop the clock.

Yep. I was shocked that he did not call a timeout with 50-something seconds left after Lynch got down to the 1.

[pbmax]

Or you can run it once and win the game.

The advanced statistical analysis of the game of football is such a joke. Claiming you "have" to pass is perhaps one of the most moronic statements I've ever seen. Vince Lombardi would take Brian Burke's analysis and file it right in the trash where it belongs.

Look at PFF's numbers for Seattle's runs at the 1 yard line in the last three years (all with Lynch). They were 10 of 23. Less than 50% success rate. That isn't advanced statistical analysis. That's a recognition that a run is less than 50% likely to succeed.

To increase your odds for either option to succeed, need to keep alive possibility that either could be called. That's why M3's empty backfield red zone is problematic. It was less problematic with Driver, Jennings, Jones and Ruvell (big target), but it leverages the defense against your call before the ball is snapped.

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[ThunderDan]

3 of 8 passing isn't 50% either.

Either way your formation has to allow you to do both. The 5 WR sets or 4 WR/1TE sets remove everything but a QB draw.

[Freak Out]

Was hesitant to watch the game.....went for a ski at halftime and almost didn't turn it back on. Glad I did. What a finish.

[pbmax]

3 of 8 passing isn't 50% either.

Either way your formation has to allow you to do both. The 5 WR sets or 4 WR/1TE sets remove everything but a QB draw.

Which is a fine option for Rodgers (healthy) or Wilson, less likely for Brady, though he has done it.

[King Friday]

Look at PFF's numbers for Seattle's runs at the 1 yard line in the last three years (all with Lynch). They were 10 of 23. Less than 50% success rate.

And they had two opportunities to give the ball to Lynch...which means your success rate "statistically" just jumped to 87%. Technically, they could've probably gotten a 3rd chance off if necessary if they had run the first play a little quicker. Now you are over 100%.

[King Friday]

To increase your odds for either option to succeed, need to keep alive possibility that either could be called. That's why M3's empty backfield red zone is problematic. It was less problematic with Driver, Jennings, Jones and Ruvell (big target), but it leverages the defense against your call before the ball is snapped.

I've got no argument there...if you are going to throw in the redzone, especially inside the 5 yard line, you should almost always do it off legitimate play action.

[King Friday]

The point is...all the "advanced metrics" tell us that McCarthy and Carroll apparently did the right things...and both guys wound up losing.

So...are advanced metrics really to be believed in football?

[denverYooper]

And they had two opportunities to give the ball to Lynch...which means your success rate "statistically" just jumped to 87%. Technically, they could've probably gotten a 3rd chance off if necessary if they had run the first play a little quicker. Now you are over 100%.

The probability wouldn't be additive. And the clock is a factor.

[pbmax]

And they had two opportunities to give the ball to Lynch...which means your success rate "statistically" just jumped to 87%. Technically, they could've probably gotten a 3rd chance off if necessary if they had run the first play a little quicker. Now you are over 100%.

You can't get over 100% on a 43% chance in three tries.

But the problem is the clock here. With 26 seconds, you need two stoppages to get three plays off. You could run, call TO, pass and (assume incomplete) then run again.

[pbmax]

Man, people never forget:

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 40s40 seconds ago
Used to blame INTs on Tony Simmons at Wisconsin, too. RT @bcondotta: Darrell Bevell says Lockette could have been stronger to the ball.

[Pugger]

And I thought MM made some bone-headed play calls. That takes the prize for the stupidest call of the year.

Russel Wilson has not impressed me the last two games. He gets way too many props.

:tup:

[denverYooper]

Man, people never forget:

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 40s40 seconds ago
Used to blame INTs on Tony Simmons at Wisconsin, too. RT @bcondotta: Darrell Bevell says Lockette could have been stronger to the ball.

LOL. I was going to post Wilde's quote too.

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http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/analysis/game-analysis/228-should-sea-have-run-on-2nd-down?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


By Brian Burke
01 February 2015
It was 2nd and goal from the 1 with 26 seconds at the snap. SEA had 1 timeout. If SEA runs the ball on 2nd down and fails to score, that means they must call their final timeout to save time for 3rd and 4th down. And that means they must pass on 3rd down for there to be time for a 4th down.

Passing on 2nd down allows SEA the option of running on 3rd down if necessary, and forces the NE defense to respect both options on all potential remaining downs.

Lynch is a beast, no doubt. He was born for that moment. And he would make a great decoy on 2nd down. It was simply an excellent play by NE’s Malcolm Butler, and it was the one outcome that could backfire on SEA’s decision to pass.

The play call itself, I can't account for that. Perhaps it was a go-to play that they felt confident about.

The one flaw here is the assumption that you MUST pass on 3rd down after you call a TO. Percentage wise you want the extra down and shot, but you could catch NE playing pass all the way.

If you are Belichick on 3rd down, 18 seconds left, no Seattle TOs, do you play pass?

[Pugger]

I've never been so happy to see another team lose.

Well, maybe the Vikings in 2009.

Yup, karma is a bitch. :-)

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Brian Burke ‏@Adv_NFL_Stats 4m4 minutes ago
WOPR sim disagrees with its creator. Says SEA should have run. Risk of sack, turnover, & pen outweighs risk of not having time for 4th down.

[King Friday]

You can't get over 100% on a 43% chance in three tries.

But the problem is the clock here. With 26 seconds, you need two stoppages to get three plays off. You could run, call TO, pass and (assume incomplete) then run again.

Yeah...this is where I'm shocked the Seahawks let the clock run down so much. With only 1 time out left...I think the smartest play is to try to run first. Do it with about 38-40 seconds left...so you use the time out with just over 30 seconds left if unsuccessful. Now, you are free to still do whatever you want...because you can call two plays in the time out, and a failed run on 3rd down still gives you 25+ seconds to set up for another play. If you wind down the clock too much, it makes your play-calling more predictable. You can't worry about leaving time on the clock in that scenario...you need to use the clock in whatever manner gives you the greater advantage on the field to score the TD you need to retake the lead.

[Bossman641]

i hope tj lang and every other asshole on the team that soiled the uniformed this season gets shipped out of town in the offseason

honestly, don't ever need to see any of the coaches or players wearing green and gold again. i'd rather watch us go full blown rebuild and spend the next 10 years going 1-15 then to watch any of these pussies play for us again

NO

[King Friday]

Brian Burke ‏@Adv_NFL_Stats 4m4 minutes ago
WOPR sim disagrees with its creator. Says SEA should have run. Risk of sack, turnover, & pen outweighs risk of not having time for 4th down.

LMAO. This is what happens when you leave it up to computers.

They'd have forced us to watch a boring NCAA championship game of Florida State and Alabama if we had let them!

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LMAO. This is what happens when you leave it up to computers.

They'd have forced us to watch a boring NCAA championship game of Florida State and Alabama if we had let them!

The computers are consistent. But humans want to change the rules all the time. Actually, I doubt the computers have FSU #1 or #2, but the poll voters keep getting more weight in the BCS so they may have ended up on top.

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[woodbuck27]

I really cannot get any grasp on why members here are taking apart Russell Wilson for this loss.

Did he make the play call? Was Russell Wilson simply doing what he was asked to do on that down?

With 26 seconds on the clock and 2nd and goal from the NE one yard line. Russell Wilson gets called to pass on a slant route to WR Ricardo Lockette. He gets picked by Malcolm Butler and the Pats took over simply needing to run out the clock for a New England win.

Football is a game of inchs. Was it a case of Ricardo Lockette not getting to the ball? Or Clearly... that short pass being just a little out in front? If Russell Wilson had passed into the hands of the receiver maybe it may have been dropped?

Maybe Malcolm Butler had some good hands on an aggressive play and thus the pick?

Did you look carefully on what Russell Wilson did do to even get that ball in that position to possibly win that game late?

No. All you do is judge him on one play and dismiss all he did that was extremely positive in that excellent game.

[channtheman]

I like Russell Wilson. It's a shame he had to get drafted by the dirtiest team full of thugs. Seriously, you're going to start a fight after the game is "over?" Get some class you low life punks.

[esoxx]

Won $345 tonight. Moving on from stage two, anger.

[smuggler]

New England didn't call a timeout after the first down carry because they were not going to even contest a rushing attempt. If Lynch had been given the ball on second down, the line would have allowed Lynch to score. The timeout is worth more than the time to New England at that point.

Think about it, why was New England in a 4-3 look 2nd and goal from the 1-yard line? They were playing pass all the way because they didn't want anything other than a TD/turnover/incompletion. Had the Seahawks scored a TD, the Pats would have had the ball with 24ish seconds left and all three timeouts, needing only a FG to tie.

[channtheman]

The tears of the Seahawks fans crying about how the decision to throw was "the worst call in history" are delicious. Never mind they don't realize they shouldn't have even been in the Super Bowl to begin with.

[SkinBasket]

And they had two opportunities to give the ball to Lynch...which means your success rate "statistically" just jumped to 87%. Technically, they could've probably gotten a 3rd chance off if necessary if they had run the first play a little quicker. Now you are over 100%.

That's not how math works.

[mraynrand]

That's not how math works.

spoken by the guy who never gave 110%

[woodbuck27]

New England didn't call a timeout after the first down carry because they were not going to even contest a rushing attempt. If Lynch had been given the ball on second down, the line would have allowed Lynch to score. The timeout is worth more than the time to New England at that point.

Think about it, why was New England in a 4-3 look 2nd and goal from the 1-yard line? They were playing pass all the way because they didn't want anything other than a TD/turnover/incompletion. Had the Seahawks scored a TD, the Pats would have had the ball with 24ish seconds left and all three timeouts, needing only a FG to tie.

That's good analysis.

Seattle's on the 1 yard line and the world was looking for a handoff to Marshawn Lynch.

I wonder if we'll ever know what Bill Belichick's thoughts were on that down/play?

[Carolina_Packer]

No. All you do is judge him on one play and dismiss all he did that was extremely positive in that excellent game.

2nd guessing is an easy thing to do, but it was the decisive play of the game and in this case, the decisive losing play. Of course the Packers would have some idea of how this feels having squandered a 4th quarter lead of their own.

What gets you beat? Getting cute. Going away from tendencies and not doing what got you there or playing to your strength. If you are wasting a play (Pete Carroll's term) on that second down play, then why not show slant and Russell tucks it and takes the right side of the field and gets the corner. I don't think Wilson gets beat to the corner, but if he can't get to the corner, he can run out of bounds or throw the ball away. That's how you waste a play, Pete. To run a slant to an inexperienced receiver and throwing the ball high and late...that will get you beat.

The Seahawks are more sick today than the Packers were a couple of week's ago. You had the Super Bowl won if you hand the ball to Lynch.

[woodbuck27]

2nd guessing is an easy thing to do, but it was the decisive play of the game and in this case, the decisive losing play. Of course the Packers would have some idea of how this feels having squandered a 4th quarter lead of their own.

What gets you beat? Getting cute. Going away from tendencies and not doing what got you there or playing to your strength. If you are wasting a play (Pete Carroll's term) on that second down play, then why not show slant and Russell tucks it and takes the right side of the field and gets the corner. I don't think Wilson gets beat to the corner, but if he can't get to the corner, he can run out of bounds or throw the ball away. That's how you waste a play, Pete. To run a slant to an inexperienced receiver and throwing the ball high and late...that will get you beat.

The Seahawks are more sick today than the Packers were a couple of week's ago. You had the Super Bowl won if you hand the ball to Lynch.

The powers to be chose to not run the ball. I do feel the star of that play call should have been Marshawn Lynch. That Seattle should have taken advantage of that man's demands to adversity the way the NFL had treated him all week.

That aside...I've looked at that play 20 times.

Russell Wilson threw that ball very well and with some mustard on that throw. I cannot find any fault on that play against Russell Wilson. In that game Russell Wilson was amazing in his execution.

How many here had knowledge of New England CB Malcolm Butler before this game? Before his game winning pick?

What university did he graduate from? When was he drafted? Was he drafted? Where is he on New England's Depth Chart? What position is normal for him as a DB? What was his record as a playmaker in the NFL ... ie how many picks did he have entering that Super Bowl game?

I'll venture to post that...not one member of this board could answer half of those questions before he made that 'Hero Play' yesterday

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4777713/malcolm-butler-an-unlikely-hero

Little-known Malcolm Butler an unlikely hero for Patriots

February, 2, 2015 ... 2:25 AM ET

By: Mike Reiss | ESPNBoston.com

My point is that Seattle liked the matchup and former Green Bay Packer Coach Darrell Bevell made the call for a slant pass. Rookie Malcolm Butler (who had zero NFL picks) is lined up in the end zone about seven yards from the goal line. So what went wrong?

This slant is a TD or an incompletion if Ricardo Lockette simply gets his hands up for the catch. I mean his hands moved in 'slow motion'. Lockette might have been more aggressive on that play.

Little known CB Malcolm Butler was aggressive. he made the pick and his team escapes a bullet and wins a close exciting game. That's the end of the story.

Sure it is ! yak yak Yak !

Deon Sanders was being Deion and blowing off after the game and expounding his view that the play call was "the WORST in Super Bowl history". A tad too much emotion? Marshall Falk had no words for that call. Michael Irvin didn't have the intended receivers name right.

I asked myself: How much does NFL.Com pay these guys?

Pete Carroll on the other hand took full responsibility for the loss. Pete Carroll fully explained the reason for that call and his thinking of what the whole series of calls was intended to be including using the one remaining Time Out. Pete Carroll has a ton of class. Pete Carroll's team was (a just maybe?) one made play away from back to back Super Bowl wins.

Every Packer fan should just wish to be where Pete Carroll's team was with :28 let in the fourth Quarter. So close to back to back Super Bowl wins.

[Bossman641]

New England didn't call a timeout after the first down carry because they were not going to even contest a rushing attempt. If Lynch had been given the ball on second down, the line would have allowed Lynch to score. The timeout is worth more than the time to New England at that point.

Think about it, why was New England in a 4-3 look 2nd and goal from the 1-yard line? They were playing pass all the way because they didn't want anything other than a TD/turnover/incompletion. Had the Seahawks scored a TD, the Pats would have had the ball with 24ish seconds left and all three timeouts, needing only a FG to tie.

How are you coming to this conclusion? The DL fired off the ball on 2nd down. There was no let up in their play. On top of that, NE stayed in a big package and didn't match Seattle's 3 WR look.

I think both Belicheck and Carroll screwed up the ending of that game. Belicheck should have been using the 2 remaining TO to ensure NE had some time remaining. Seattle should have run a safer play. I hate when we run slants from in close. There is too much traffic in there.

[KYPack]

Red, feeling a little shaky this AM?

You got that fucked up & didn't even watch the SB?

Hmmm.

[woodbuck27]

How are you coming to this conclusion? The DL fired off the ball on 2nd down. There was no let up in their play. On top of that, NE stayed in a big package and didn't match Seattle's 3 WR look.

I think both Belicheck and Carroll screwed up the ending of that game. Belicheck should have been using the 2 remaining TO to ensure NE had some time remaining. Seattle should have run a safer play. I hate when we run slants from in close. There is too much traffic in there.

Good observations Bossman641.

Here's exactly how New England defended on 2nd and goal @ 0:28 in the game:

'Out of the horses mouth' what Bill Belichick said about that game clinching play ...See 3:25 of this video:

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/02/new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-dad-super-bowl

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New England didn't call a timeout after the first down carry because they were not going to even contest a rushing attempt. If Lynch had been given the ball on second down, the line would have allowed Lynch to score. The timeout is worth more than the time to New England at that point.
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Then why did they tackle him on first down?

And why not call a TO then let them score?

[pbmax]

I think both Belicheck and Carroll screwed up the ending of that game. Belicheck should have been using the 2 remaining TO to ensure NE had some time remaining. Seattle should have run a safer play. I hate when we run slants from in close. There is too much traffic in there.

I think the problem was tendency and film study. Because for the briefest of moments, it was open, the DB was well off the LOS. That DB had to crash hard at the snap to be in position. No hesitation at all. When he saw the WR cross to run a slant/flat combo, he took off.

He had to see that on previous Seattle double red zone plays.

[ThunderDan]

I think the problem was tendency and film study. Because for the briefest of moments, it was open, the DB was well off the LOS. That DB had to crash hard at the snap to be in position. No hesitation at all. When he saw the WR cross to run a slant/flat combo, he took off.

He had to see that on previous Seattle double red zone plays.

On the radio this morning they said NE notices that SEA tended to run that play in short yardage formation and had actually run the play in practice this week with the O scoring a TD. They were ready for it during the Super Bowl.

[Bossman641]

I think the problem was tendency and film study. Because for the briefest of moments, it was open, the DB was well off the LOS. That DB had to crash hard at the snap to be in position. No hesitation at all. When he saw the WR cross to run a slant/flat combo, he took off.

He had to see that on previous Seattle double red zone plays.

I agree it was open for a split second. If Wilson had thrown the ball a touch earlier Lockette probably catches it and, at worst, gets tackled just short of the end zone. I just can't believe the Seahawks didn't take advantage of Wilson's legs or Lynch in that situation.

[denverYooper]

I'm pretty glad the Seahawks lost.

[woodbuck27]

Then why did they tackle him on first down?

And why not call a TO then let them score?

Yup.

1-5-NE 5 (1:06) 24-M.Lynch left tackle to NE 1 for 4 yards (54-D.Hightower).

That 'stop and hack' on Marshawn Lynch by New England's MLB Akeem Ayers was something else. Ayers played very well this season.

[mraynrand]

On the radio this morning they said NE notices that SEA tended to run that play in short yardage formation and had actually run the play in practice this week with the O scoring a TD. They were ready for it during the Super Bowl.

It doesn't surprise me that Belicheat knew Seattle was running this play in practice. Probably a hidden camera in a deflated ball. :)

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Kevin Negandhi ‏@KNegandhiESPN 2h2 hours ago
Russell Wilson's pass was the 109th time a QB threw from the 1-yd line this season and it was the 1st time it resulted in an interception.

[denverYooper]

Kevin Negandhi ‏@KNegandhiESPN 2h2 hours ago
Russell Wilson's pass was the 109th time a QB threw from the 1-yd line this season and it was the 1st time it resulted in an interception.

Not Legendary.

[Packers4Glory]

bhaha did Mike mccarthy take over playcalling for Seattle down there? haha losing that way is karma for not deserving to be in that game after getting a couple of absurd gifts from the Packers. FU seachickens! I love they lost by not just giving the ball to Lynch.

[denverYooper]

Kidding aside, Wilson is one of the Seahawks players that I actually like.

It's really more fun to see Carroll and Bevell get lambasted for the call.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Butler read the shit out of that last play. He was great position from the start. and simply beat the receiver to the ball. Wasn't about the WR not "being aggressive", he just simply got beat by Butler.

[yetisnowman]

Then why did they tackle him on first down?

And why not call a TO then let them score?

It was a super ballsy move by Belicheck to psych them out, Seattle I am sure expected them to call a timeout. When they didn't, all of a sudden 30 seconds ran off the clock. And with one timeout, Seattle really didn't have time to run 3 times without getting in the endzone. I didn't understand it at all at first. But as you said he most certainly wasn't not calling his timeouts to let them score on purpose, that makes zero sense.

[denverYooper]

Fantastic quote from Brandt:

Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt 4m4 minutes ago
Amazing how the narrative about two teams and their star players can change based on one play by an undrafted free agent (Butler). #SB

That's like the old saw: it's not the top of the roster that determines the team's overall success. It's the bottom. And by bottom, I mean Bostick.

[mraynrand]

Fantastic quote from Brandt:

Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt 4m4 minutes ago
Amazing how the narrative about two teams and their star players can change based on one play by an undrafted free agent (Butler). #SB

That's like the old saw: it's not the top of the roster that determines the team's overall success. It's the bottom. And by bottom, I mean Bostick.

Is he still on the roster?

[ThunderDan]

It doesn't surprise me that Belicheat knew Seattle was running this play in practice. Probably a hidden camera in a deflated ball. :)

Oops, probably need a comma there. NE had run the play against their own D in practice this week because they know that SEA liked to run that pass play in short yardage situations. The Pat's O scored on the Pat's D but the D was ready for the play come Super Bowl time.

[Pugger]

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Antonio Freeman revisited.

[Bossman641]

It was a super ballsy move by Belicheck to psych them out, Seattle I am sure expected them to call a timeout. When they didn't, all of a sudden 30 seconds ran off the clock. And with one timeout, Seattle really didn't have time to run 3 times without getting in the endzone. I didn't understand it at all at first. But as you said he most certainly wasn't not calling his timeouts to let them score on purpose, that makes zero sense.

So Belichick didn't call a timeout in the hopes that Seattle would be psyched out and would botch the next play? Sorry but I'm not buying it. Lynch got tackled with 1:02 left. Seattle changes their personnel from a 2 TE I formation to the 3 WR formation and gets to the LOS at a normal pace. Seattle purposefully ran 30 seconds off the clock to leave as little time as possible remaining.

If Lynch plunges the ball in, Hauschka most likely kicks into the end zone and NE is left with 20 seconds and 2 TO to get in field goal range. Belichick is then left answering questions this morning about why he only left Brady with 20 seconds and 2 TO instead of 55-58 seconds and 1 TO.

[Pugger]

So Belichick didn't call a timeout in the hopes that Seattle would be psyched out and would botch the next play? Sorry but I'm not buying it. Lynch got tackled with 1:02 left. Seattle changes their personnel from a 2 TE I formation to the 3 WR formation and gets to the LOS at a normal pace. Seattle purposefully ran 30 seconds off the clock to leave as little time as possible remaining.

If Lynch plunges the ball in, Hauschka most likely kicks into the end zone and NE is left with 20 seconds and 2 TO to get in field goal range. Belichick is then left answering questions this morning about why he only left Brady with 20 seconds and 2 TO instead of 55-58 seconds and 1 TO.

I think Belicheat screwed up there. Let's say Lynch does score and there is only a dozen seconds left. BB would be roasted just like Carroll is today.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/02/super-bowl-delivers-its-highest-overnight-tv-rating-ever/

Super Bowl delivers its highest overnight TV rating ever

Posted by Michael David Smith on February 2, 2015, 9:11 AM EST

[woodbuck27]

Antonio Freeman revisited.

That's the first thing I thought of seeing that play.

MNF Packers and Minnesota in OT....if I remember it correctly.

I was watching that game with friends (all Packer fans) and we were amazed. :whaa:

[pbmax]

It was a super ballsy move by Belicheck to psych them out, Seattle I am sure expected them to call a timeout. When they didn't, all of a sudden 30 seconds ran off the clock. And with one timeout, Seattle really didn't have time to run 3 times without getting in the endzone. I didn't understand it at all at first. But as you said he most certainly wasn't not calling his timeouts to let them score on purpose, that makes zero sense.

Maybe, though Bevell said they wanted to run the clock down specifically to keep it out of Brady's hands.

Even with 30 seconds off the clock Seattle could have run twice more. That means BB's baller move saved him one net Lynch/Wilson run. Hell of a price to pay when Seattle is better than 75% to score a TD.

[pbmax]

So Belichick didn't call a timeout in the hopes that Seattle would be psyched out and would botch the next play? Sorry but I'm not buying it. Lynch got tackled with 1:02 left. Seattle changes their personnel from a 2 TE I formation to the 3 WR formation and gets to the LOS at a normal pace. Seattle purposefully ran 30 seconds off the clock to leave as little time as possible remaining.

If Lynch plunges the ball in, Hauschka most likely kicks into the end zone and NE is left with 20 seconds and 2 TO to get in field goal range. Belichick is then left answering questions this morning about why he only left Brady with 20 seconds and 2 TO instead of 55-58 seconds and 1 TO.

Did Patriots have one or two TOs remaining?

[woodbuck27]

Did Seattle have one or two TOs remaining?

Seattle had ONE TO remaining when the ball was turned over on the Malcolm Butler pick.

Seattle took time outs at:

Timeout #1 by SEA at 01:50 remaining in the 4th Qtr.

and

Timeout #2 by SEA at 01:06 remaining in the 4th Qtr.

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I believe it was one.

Yeah, I mean to ask about the Patriots. I edited the original while you answered.