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Joemailman
04-27-2015, 11:31 PM
Not a preference poll. It's prediction time. The following will not be in the poll as I expect them to be gone when the Packers pick at #30.:

Leonard Williams, Amari Cooper, Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, Dante Fowler, Brandon Scherff, Kevin White, Vic Beasley, Andrus Peat, DeVante Parker, Alvin Dupree, Todd Gurley, Shane Ray, Randy Gregory, Danny Shelton, Ereck Flowers, La'el Collins, Trae Waynes, Kevin Johnson, Melvin Gordon, D.J. Humphries.

Poll to follow.

Bretsky
04-27-2015, 11:33 PM
you think it's a given Gordon is gone by GB's pick ??

Joemailman
04-27-2015, 11:45 PM
you think it's a given Gordon is gone by GB's pick ??

I think so. All 4 mock drafts at CBS have him being picked between 17-26.

Joemailman
04-27-2015, 11:47 PM
I think it's Eric Kendricks. He's an every down linebacker who fits an obvious need.

pbmax
04-27-2015, 11:52 PM
Kendricks. scout.com's mock draft aggregator/complier/plagiarizer has every MLB on their board available at the Packers pick. If they want one, good chance they'll be there.

Guiness
04-28-2015, 12:32 AM
I picked 'other' just to make sure I'm right, because no way does TT pick anyone we're looking at! To put a name to the 'other' though, I'll go with Jalen Collins, the corner from LSU.

I'm not sold Kendricks goes in round 1.

Joemailman
04-28-2015, 12:44 AM
There have been reports that teams might have 1st round grades on only 15-20 players. I think TT will want to trade down, but will have trouble finding a team that wants to trade up. CBS and Draft Insider both have Kendricks at #29, so there is decent value to pick him there. Not really an exciting pick but a solid one.

call_me_ishmael
04-28-2015, 01:26 AM
I just don't see TT using a #1 on an MLB unless it's a special player like the kid who went to Baltimore last year. I could see him going for the home run with Dawson, or the kid from Clemson (I don't touch people from Clemson personally). Otherwise, he goes CB, DL, or WR.

smuggler
04-28-2015, 01:50 AM
What? No love for Gaines Adams or Phillip Merling? lol

I have a suspicion we'll end up taking an OT (probably Ereck Flowers) or Arik Armstead. I voted Armstead, but I sure would like a trade back and/or an ILB!

Guiness
04-28-2015, 11:03 AM
Here's a question - lots of chatter about Shane Ray falling out of the first round - don't see how you don't take a flier on him if he's there at 30.

Joemailman
04-28-2015, 12:08 PM
Here's a question - lots of chatter about Shane Ray falling out of the first round - don't see how you don't take a flier on him if he's there at 30.

Would TT want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy dumb enough to be in possession of marijuana 3 days before the draft? He would probably want to delve into the guy's past, and there may not be time to do that. Ray did fail a drug test earlier in his career at Missouri.

denverYooper
04-28-2015, 12:36 PM
He'll draft a difference maker with updside.

I'm not sure if it will be a high-motor, long striding kinda guy or a country strong tone-setter. I don't care, as long as he doesn't have any red flags and can contribute from day 1.

mraynrand
04-28-2015, 01:29 PM
Would TT want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy dumb enough to be in possession of marijuana 3 days before the draft? He would probably want to delve into the guy's past, and there may not be time to do that. Ray did fail a drug test earlier in his career at Missouri.

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Well, I'm not even sure that's a crime anymore. There've been a lot of changes in the law

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OM_nfBs47ls/hqdefault.jpg

pbmax
04-28-2015, 01:52 PM
He'll draft a difference maker with updside.

I'm not sure if it will be a high-motor, long striding kinda guy or a country strong tone-setter. I don't care, as long as he doesn't have any red flags and can contribute from day 1.

Repped.

Day ! according to this thread, though.

Joemailman
04-28-2015, 02:13 PM
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Well, I'm not even sure that's a crime anymore. There've been a lot of changes in the law

Dolphins' Dion Jordan, the #3 overall pick in the 2013 draft, suspended all of 2015 for failed drug test due to diluted test sample. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2446216-dion-jordan-suspended-for-2015-nfl-season-latest-details-comments-reaction?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

That's why this matters.

mraynrand
04-28-2015, 02:19 PM
Dolphins' Dion Jordan, the #3 overall pick in the 2013 draft, suspended all of 2015 for failed drug test due to diluted test sample. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2446216-dion-jordan-suspended-for-2015-nfl-season-latest-details-comments-reaction?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

That's why this matters.

Did I say it didn't matter?

pbmax
04-28-2015, 03:30 PM
Dolphins' Dion Jordan, the #3 overall pick in the 2013 draft, suspended all of 2015 for failed drug test due to diluted test sample. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2446216-dion-jordan-suspended-for-2015-nfl-season-latest-details-comments-reaction?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

That's why this matters.

Chevy Chase don't care.

Fritz
04-28-2015, 04:03 PM
Ted will draft an offensive tackle in the first round, pissing many people off.

Then he'll turn us all into frothing, eye-bulging lunatics by drafting one cornerback in the fourth round, and an inside linebacker in the sixth round.

Smidgeon
04-28-2015, 04:38 PM
Ted will draft an offensive tackle in the first round, pissing many people off.

Then he'll turn us all into frothing, eye-bulging lunatics by drafting one cornerback in the fourth round, and an inside linebacker in the sixth round.

And somehow, the Packers will end up even more dominant than last year, throwing all logic out the window.

pbmax
04-28-2015, 05:12 PM
Ted will draft an offensive tackle in the first round, pissing many people off.

Then he'll turn us all into frothing, eye-bulging lunatics by drafting one cornerback in the fourth round, and an inside linebacker in the sixth round.

That's why God or Al Davis invented UDFAs to root for.

My great concern this early in the year is that I am going to see Year 2 Mike Pennel and wonder what the heck I was so excited about.

mraynrand
04-28-2015, 05:12 PM
My round 1 prediction is Bud Dupree

mraynrand
04-28-2015, 05:15 PM
That's why God or Al Davis invented UDFAs to root for.

My great concern this early in the year is that I am going to see Year 2 Mike Pennel and wonder what the heck I was so excited about.

Year 2 leap!

http://eatingacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/fat-jump.jpg

Bretsky
04-28-2015, 11:08 PM
Ted will draft an offensive tackle in the first round, pissing many people off.

Then he'll turn us all into frothing, eye-bulging lunatics by drafting one cornerback in the fourth round, and an inside linebacker in the sixth round.


THIS THIS THIS.....deservingly repped

vince
04-29-2015, 08:13 AM
Kendricks, Jones or trade back

Pugger
04-29-2015, 08:29 AM
All I know is tomorrow night can't come quick enough... ;-)

Fritz
04-29-2015, 12:58 PM
THIS THIS THIS.....deservingly repped

Then he'll bring in three UDFA's who are corners, and in the sixth round draft a defensive linemen to try to turn into an OLB, and then draft an OLB to turn into an ILB.

MadScientist
04-29-2015, 01:33 PM
I think they'll go corner over ILB in the 1st. They really need another corner in this day and age, and preferably one who can start sooner rather than later. I just think Hayward is better suited as a #3 corner.

mraynrand
04-29-2015, 01:55 PM
I think they'll go corner over ILB in the 1st. They really need another corner in this day and age, and preferably one who can start sooner rather than later. I just think Hayward is better suited as a #3 corner.

you mean Hayward at slot, right? I think it's not too hard to find a corner to play the edge in nickel or dime. Problem is if that guy has to play #1 or #2 because of injury.

Corner seems likely to me, but I have them picking an outside rusher.

smuggler
04-29-2015, 02:44 PM
Thinking about it more, I think it is possible that at team at the top of the 2nd round would trade up with us to get a 5th year option on their guy. It would only net a 4th or 5th round pick. Green Bay seems like the kind of team that Marcus Peters would do well on, but so does New England, and trading back gives them right of first refusal. We already know they lost Revis to the Jets this offseason, so if Peters is there, I'd bet Hoody takes him.

pbmax
04-29-2015, 02:51 PM
Corner seems likely to me, but I have them picking an outside rusher.

I was thinking about that too when reading the draft is almost as deep with edge guys as with WRs. If Matthews is inside and Neal/Perry are your starters opposite Peppers, you can argue one is a need; possibly for pass rush alone.

I am not sure about the depth either, its Mulumba and who right now?

mraynrand
04-29-2015, 04:12 PM
I was thinking about that too when reading the draft is almost as deep with edge guys as with WRs.

That's what I was focusing on: It could be

You
https://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/clay-matthews001.jpg

Me

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By_PbE0IQAASWO_.jpg:large

and Dupree

http://www.draftbrowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Bud-Dupree.jpg

(but probably not, unless Dupree falls)

Carolina_Packer
04-29-2015, 04:44 PM
I was thinking about that too when reading the draft is almost as deep with edge guys as with WRs. If Matthews is inside and Neal/Perry are your starters opposite Peppers, you can argue one is a need; possibly for pass rush alone.

I am not sure about the depth either, its Mulumba and who right now?

Jayrone Elliot for sure. He flashed a little bit in in TC. I just went and looked on Packers.com and they still have Hawk and Jones listed on the depth chart. Whoops! Way to keep your site up to date.

http://s2.postimg.org/g3buzyizd/packers_depth_chart_april2015.jpg

If you look at the current roster on Packers.com and sort by position, it lists the following Linebackers:

http://s28.postimg.org/t1ui4hsml/packers_lb_roster_april2015.jpg

Not sure why they don't have those other linebackers listed on the depth chart.

pbmax
04-29-2015, 05:45 PM
I don't even remember where they were playing Hubbard.

smuggler
04-29-2015, 05:46 PM
Damn Hubbard is tall...

pbmax
04-29-2015, 05:50 PM
Damn Hubbard is tall...

Yeah, on paper it screams OLB. I think he was an edge rusher for Bama.

smuggler
04-29-2015, 05:53 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/

He's the 16th ranked OLB prospect on CBS' website...

pbmax
04-29-2015, 05:59 PM
...

and Dupree

http://www.draftbrowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Bud-Dupree.jpg

(but probably not, unless Dupree falls)

Here are some more reasons to be impressed. http://www.footballperspective.com/bud-dupree-topped-byron-jones-in-the-broad-jump-at-2015-combine/

Also, advanced nil stats has him being selected between 14 and 18. Probability of him falling to 30 is 0.01. http://public.tableau.com/shared/3QWGB4M3J?:display_count=no

Carolina_Packer
04-29-2015, 07:12 PM
Davis Tull DE/OLB from UT-Chattanooga 4th on the list in that article about Dupree. Looks like he has some explosiveness. Could be a value pick later in the draft. He was mentioned in the sleepers thread.

Iron Mike
04-29-2015, 07:14 PM
Heard on the radio today that the Bears are shopping Martellus Bennett. Could you image the Offense if TT would trade for Bennett or Vernon Davis???

mraynrand
04-29-2015, 08:38 PM
Here are some more reasons to be impressed. http://www.footballperspective.com/bud-dupree-topped-byron-jones-in-the-broad-jump-at-2015-combine/

Also, advanced nil stats has him being selected between 14 and 18. Probability of him falling to 30 is 0.01. http://public.tableau.com/shared/3QWGB4M3J?:display_count=no

That's pretty damn funny, because I was gonna say the chances were exactly that. I dunno, I saw some guys getting down about how raw he was, thought what if he slips to 20 or so?...would TT go get 'em? I think edge rush and corner are higher than ILB (and ILB can still be had in later rounds).

Anyway, not a chance... Probably too much coffee

mraynrand
04-29-2015, 08:40 PM
Heard on the radio today that the Bears are shopping Martellus Bennett. Could you image the Offense if TT would trade for Bennett or Vernon Davis???

VD is finished. Bennett is meh. R Rodgers' 2 year leap might catch up with B.

pbmax
04-29-2015, 09:30 PM
That's pretty damn funny, because I was gonna say the chances were exactly that. I dunno, I saw some guys getting down about how raw he was, thought what if he slips to 20 or so?...would TT go get 'em? I think edge rush and corner are higher than ILB (and ILB can still be had in later rounds).

Anyway, not a chance... Probably too much coffee

I can't see Ted jumping to 20, but if he thinks he needs another Matthews athlete on the edge, I can see him jumping to the mid-20s. Gonna cost the second round pick though, I think.

smuggler
04-29-2015, 09:33 PM
30 > 20 requires that 2nd rounder. 30 > 27 takes the third

pbmax
04-29-2015, 09:37 PM
30 > 20 requires that 2nd rounder. 30 > 27 takes the third

SOLD!