Official Day 2 (Rounds 2 and 3) of the 2015 NFL Draft Thread

[Bretsky]

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No, he'll say everything is OK.

by Tom Silverstein 10:13 PM





Tom, your gonna ask Ted a question about ILB? Do you really think you will get a straight answer? LOL

by John from the Falls 10:13

[wist43]

This is shaping up to be TT's worst draft... just a complete disaster.

[3irty1]

Night folks. I'm wishing for Mike Hull tomorrow. Paul Dawson can't carry his jock.

[woodbuck27]

I like the 2nd and 3rd Rd. picks.

That 1st rounder last night.....Holy Mackerel Ted......smarten up. Use a first Rd. pick for first rd. talent ....please.

TT had better options than a decent baseball player @ Pick NO. 30.

[Bretsky]

This guy is Randall Cobb without the receiving ability.

by Tom Silverstein 10:04 PM

[Bretsky]

A FUNNY BLOGGER




I have no idea who TT will pick next but let me be the first to say how disappointed I am in his next selection!

[run pMc]

Yeah, Montgomery sounds like a backup to Cobb for gadget plays. Put them both on the field and shift them around (backfield, slot, whatever) and make the defense adjust. Bigger guys like Jordy and Adams (or maybe Janis?) on the outside will draw attention. Also means we don't risk Cobb on KR/PR, and maybe the CB picks mean they keep Hyde on PR?

Harris was pretty pedestrian as a KR last year. A R3 for a KR seems a little steep, but maybe he's insurance against Cobb and 'Magic' getting hurt.

If he plays like a young Josh Cribbs, they will have a real weapon though. M3 will figure out how to use him.

[pbmax]

red's been posting from the Blackhawk game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD-RGYKUkAAKMVL.jpg

[wist43]

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I have no idea who TT will pick next but let me be the first to say how disappointed I am in his next selection!

lol... good stuff.

This is one of TT's "FU Packer Nation" drafts... "I'm smarter than everyone drafts"...

This draft is junk right out of the gate. Maybe he can salvage it on day 3, but I'm pretty sure he couldn't care less about whether he fixes the roster holes.

It's too bad to, b/c we're not that far away from competing for a title. This draft and offseason set us back from being close... Randall and Montgomery are joke picks, and Collins will take some time to develop. We lost some players on defense - and our defense wasn't good enough to begin with... so, we've definitely taken steps backward this year.

[mraynrand]

Those people look way too clean for a hockey game. Guess that's how you know it's the playoffs.

[pbmax]

Those people look way too clean for a hockey game. Guess that's how you know it's the playoffs.

Its possible red was just settling down to watch the Avengers movie.

[call_me_ishmael]

They are gonna keep 6 WR I guess. They're not cutting a third round pick, Abbie will make the team, and Janis will too. Weird to pick a guy this high unless you love him.

[mraynrand]

lol... good stuff.

This is one of TT's "FU Packer Nation" drafts... "I'm smarter than everyone drafts"...

This draft is junk right out of the gate. Maybe he can salvage it on day 3, but I'm pretty sure he couldn't care less about whether he fixes the roster holes.

It's too bad to, b/c we're not that far away from competing for a title. This draft and offseason set us back from being close... Randall and Montgomery are joke picks, and Collins will take some time to develop. We lost some players on defense - and our defense wasn't good enough to begin with... so, we've definitely taken steps backward this year.

blah blah blah. Ya know, you may end up being right, but if you are, you probably will be the only one happy about it. See you in the funny papers. You and Red make this whole thing unpleasant. I'll be elsewhere for the rest of the draft.

[Striker]

I like the 2nd and 3rd Rd. picks.

That 1st rounder last night.....Holy Mackerel Ted......smarten up. Use a first Rd. pick for first rd. talent ....please.

TT had better options than a decent baseball player @ Pick NO. 30.

Some scouts thought this draft had only 20 players worthy of a first round grade. Plus, at the end of the first you're just as good off drafting high second round picks as you are late firsts. Especially since some of those high 2nd graded players likely won't be there when it gets back to you.

[Striker]

blah blah blah. Ya know, you may end up being right, but if you are, you probably will be the only one happy about it. See you in the funny papers. You and Red make this whole thing unpleasant. I'll be elsewhere for the rest of the draft.

I've left wist on ignore. It makes conversation actually appear rational around here.

[Joemailman]

I've left wist on ignore. It makes conversation actually appear rational around here.

I probably should have. I had to get out of here last night. Just couldn't take Wist's hysterical whining any more. And that was before they took Montgomery. Watching the draft was actually fun once I got away from here.

[wist43]

blah blah blah. Ya know, you may end up being right, but if you are, you probably will be the only one happy about it. See you in the funny papers. You and Red make this whole thing unpleasant. I'll be elsewhere for the rest of the draft.

No worries ayn... you and the foo-foo girls (Joe and Striker) can stroke yourself raw - I've got Pacquiao today.

Expecting a loss there too, as the karma of this sports weekend is completely shot. The Bucks got destroyed, and Ted has gone back to his old ways.

Go Manny!!

[Bretsky]

blah blah blah. Ya know, you may end up being right, but if you are, you probably will be the only one happy about it. See you in the funny papers. You and Red make this whole thing unpleasant. I'll be elsewhere for the rest of the draft.

To me all of this stuff is for entertainment value and I value views the same and opposite of mine and I rarely care about tones.
Wist has been right a lot in the past and I appreciate that he's outstpoken cause I like guys with strong opinions
I wish those who opposed and absolutely loved a pick would swear it's an incredible pick cause it's fun to look back on stuff like this; the gotta trust TT stuff has never did anything for me.
I like strong viewpoints

[pittstang5]

This draft is really freakin weird. I don't mind taking a WR. I'm just not sure about this guy. From what I read and the more I read - it sounds like TT took this guy for his return ability and is hoping they can develop him into a better WR. I don't agree with this pick, but, I'm trusting TT.

This team has holes. They could use another pass rushing OLB, TE and ILB is the obvious NEED. But, when the Packers picked last night - I only saw one player, Dawson, who could fill the ILB hole and he has some MAJOR, MAJOR question marks. I gotta assume TT didn't even have him on his board.

We'll be ok - Trust in TT. And this is coming from a glass half-empty guy.

[pbmax]

Montgomery is more easily explained than Randall. Montgomery was a huge prospect coming into his Senior season and was expected to be a R1 kid. Then Stanford has an off year passing and a new QB that doesn't feed Montgomery the ball with the same success as his predecessor.

Did the WR top out or was he hampered by the change to the offense? Probably the QB and Offense.

I think the drops issue was overplayed in the one scouting report we got and he probably isn't the natural route runner that Jennings was. But neither are Cobb or Nelson. If there are two coaches who can be counted on the improve a prospect, its Whitt and Bennett. The kid will be OK. He is another inside WR like Cobb who can also run it out of the backfield.

[sharpe1027]

He was rd 1 talent a year ago. Can't be as bad as some seem to think. Seems about the right place to grab him. a few questions, but more positives. Something happened his last year, and if they think it was mostly not his fault it could be a real good pick.

[sharpe1027]

. He is another inside WR like Cobb who can also run it out of the backfield.

If they plan on expanding role and use of Cobb in the backfield, it would make sense to have a backup guy so the whole package doesn't go out the window with an injury. Kinda like the year they put an emphasis on using Finley...

[pbmax]

If they plan on expanding role and use of Cobb in the backfield, it would make sense to have a backup guy so the whole package doesn't go out the window with an injury. Kinda like the year they put an emphasis on using Finley...

I am also pretty sure they don't want Cobb to take too many hits running it inside.

[yetisnowman]

Pretty underwhelming draft so far....the jury is still out obviously. But in keeping up with it I can't help but thinking back to the inactivity by TT in free agency. Had we brought House back, or added another corner, we could have gone Anthony or Kendricks in the first and made the same 2nd and 3rd picks. I would have been super pleased with the Packers offseason. Of course I don't know all the particulars of any negotiations that may or may have not gone down, this is just my armchair GM opinion. The front seven has been in need of talent and depth and we have added essentially nothing with our last 12 draft picks. That's not good.
But who knows how the rest of the draft will unfold and we will see what these guys can do this summer. I give Ted some leeway because he has put together a competitive team. But the last two drafts really do have me scratching my head a bit.

[Striker]

But who knows how the rest of the draft will unfold and we will see what these guys can do this summer. I give Ted some leeway because he has put together a competitive team. But the last two drafts really do have me scratching my head a bit.

Okay, I can somewhat understand confusion over this season, but what's so perplexing about last season?

[Bretsky]

Pretty underwhelming draft so far....the jury is still out obviously. But in keeping up with it I can't help but thinking back to the inactivity by TT in free agency. Had we brought House back, or added another corner, we could have gone Anthony or Kendricks in the first and made the same 2nd and 3rd picks. I would have been super pleased with the Packers offseason. Of course I don't know all the particulars of any negotiations that may or may have not gone down, this is just my armchair GM opinion. The front seven has been in need of talent and depth and we have added essentially nothing with our last 12 draft picks. That's not good.
But who knows how the rest of the draft will unfold and we will see what these guys can do this summer. I give Ted some leeway because he has put together a competitive team. But the last two drafts really do have me scratching my head a bit.



GREAT POST

[sharpe1027]

I am also pretty sure they don't want Cobb to take too many hits running it inside.

Good point. I think this shows some flexibility. The offense has been evolving since the days of Driver and Jennings. They just don't seem to be targeting the same mold, at least not exclusively.

I think TT's tendency, if he has one, is draft counter to the flavor of the month. If most teams are targeting huge WRs, he finds value in the smaller guys with other positives.

[red]

Pretty underwhelming draft so far....the jury is still out obviously. But in keeping up with it I can't help but thinking back to the inactivity by TT in free agency. Had we brought House back, or added another corner, we could have gone Anthony or Kendricks in the first and made the same 2nd and 3rd picks. I would have been super pleased with the Packers offseason. Of course I don't know all the particulars of any negotiations that may or may have not gone down, this is just my armchair GM opinion. The front seven has been in need of talent and depth and we have added essentially nothing with our last 12 draft picks. That's not good.
But who knows how the rest of the draft will unfold and we will see what these guys can do this summer. I give Ted some leeway because he has put together a competitive team. But the last two drafts really do have me scratching my head a bit.

better watch out, you'll be branded a negative anti-packer fan with posts like that

[red]

Okay, I can somewhat understand confusion over this season, but what's so perplexing about last season?

the fact that we needed an ILB last year, and went for a slug like kyrie or whatever his name is instead

and although i like the 3 wrs he got last year. really 3 wr's taken, when we needed a ILB and didn't get one?

[yetisnowman]

Okay, I can somewhat understand confusion over this season, but what's so perplexing about last season?

It's the combination of the two drafts. In our last 12 picks we have drafted 4 receivers. Yet just one lb and one d-lineman.(both appear to be busts) That doesn't perplex you at all?

[HarveyWallbangers]

We resigned Cobb and Bulaga, so I think FA went pretty well for us.

[sharpe1027]

Pretty underwhelming draft so far....the jury is still out obviously. But in keeping up with it I can't help but thinking back to the inactivity by TT in free agency. Had we brought House back, or added another corner, we could have gone Anthony or Kendricks in the first and made the same 2nd and 3rd picks. I would have been super pleased with the Packers offseason. Of course I don't know all the particulars of any negotiations that may or may have not gone down, this is just my armchair GM opinion. The front seven has been in need of talent and depth and we have added essentially nothing with our last 12 draft picks. That's not good.
But who knows how the rest of the draft will unfold and we will see what these guys can do this summer. I give Ted some leeway because he has put together a competitive team. But the last two drafts really do have me scratching my head a bit.

Yeah, I can see your point. I was surprised they did not bring House back. They don't let many young guys go through free agency, unless they simply can't play. Something must not have added up for them.

Relative to other team's free agents, I love the excitement of seeing new player's come in as a fan. But if I am really objective, free agency is like gambling at a casino. You lose on average. Also like a casino, everyone seems to talk about and remember the time some guy wins big, but far fewer hear or remember the time some guy lost his shirt.

[mraynrand]

Yeah, I can see your point. I was surprised they did not bring House back. They don't let many young guys go through free agency, unless they simply can't play. Something must not have added up for them.

6 million and inconsistency

[mraynrand]

We resigned Cobb and Bulaga, so I think FA went pretty well for us.

it allowed TT to select d-backs instead of a starting tackle

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yeah, I can see your point. I was surprised they did not bring House back. They don't let many young guys go through free agency, unless they simply can't play. Something must not have added up for them.

Relative to other team's free agents, I love the excitement of seeing new player's come in as a fan. But if I am really objective, free agency is like gambling at a casino. You lose on average. Also like a casino, everyone seems to talk about and remember the time some guy wins big, but far fewer hear or remember the time some guy lost his shirt.

They saw House as a good talent with durability concerns. They had his value at $4-5 million. Jacksonville saw his value at $6+ million. I lean towards the Packers position.

[sharpe1027]

6 million and inconsistency

Yes, but they have shelled out a lot of money for their own guys in the past, more than I would have expected in some cases. I can justify the decision to let House go after-the-fact, but it still surprised me at the time.

[yetisnowman]

I just feel like a serviceable db or lb or both should have been added via free agency to give us more depth and flexibility in the draft. We had cap space to be a little more aggressive, especially considering the holes and departures of rotation guys. The defense looks like it is going to be quite the adventure next season, hope the young kids are ready to come in and perform right away.

[sharpe1027]

I just feel like a serviceable db or lb or both should have been added via free agency to give us more depth and flexibility in the draft. We had cap space to be a little more aggressive, especially considering the holes and departures of rotation guys. The defense looks like it is going to be quite the adventure next season, hope the young kids are ready to come in and perform right away.

They did add Josh Francis (ILB) and Kyle Sebetic (DB). :wow: