Brett Hundley, 2015 Fifth Round Draft Pick

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BRETT HUNDLEY
4 of 5 Stars
UCLA
POSITION QB
HEIGHT/WEIGHT 6'3"/226
NO. 17
VERIFIED 40 TIME 4.63
NFL TEAM Green Bay
COLLEGE UCLA
HS Chandler HS
HOME Chandler, AZ


SCOUT RANK 86
POSITION RANK 05


BIO

CAREER NOTES
Hundley started all forty games that he appeared in for UCLA, gaining 9,966 yards with 75 touchdowns and 25 interceptions on 837-of-1,241 passes (67.45%), compiling a 151.06 pass efficiency rating…Added 1,747 yards with 30 touchdowns on 479 carries (3.65 ypc) and also caught two passes for 16 yards, including a 7-yard a score vs. Utah in 2013…Also punted twice for 64 yards and recorded three solo tackles, in addition to amassing 11,713 yards in total offense via 1,720 offensive plays, an average of 292.83 yards per game…Was responsible for 105 touchdowns…Turned the ball over ten times on 31 fumbles, as he was sacked a total of 122 times for losses totaling 694 yards…In addition to having 29 of his passes intercepted, the opposition managed to deflect 120 other tosses during his three seasons in the lineup.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Patriots used the 7th Round pick that we traded to get Brett Hundley to pick Darryl Roberts CB, Marshall. Roberts has the tools to start in the NFL IMO. I suspect the TT was hoping to sign Roberts as an UDFA.

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There are 16 videos of the kid on http://draftbreakdown.com
Here are the ones from 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ3-6bkygms

Daily Motion not embedding correctly.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6NrL0PgrhM0739RkxN

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4bYcQzOATdHWT9RSnP

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4yWRL0ncYKEHVa5KMo

[Pugger]

Patriots used the 7th Round pick that we traded to get Brett Hundley to pick Darryl Roberts CB, Marshall. Roberts has the tools to start in the NFL IMO. I suspect the TT was hoping to sign Roberts as an UDFA.

I don't think we need any more CBs...

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't think we need any more CBs...

We'll bring in several this summer. Competition to find the best.

[Pugger]

I guess I should have said I didn't want Ted to draft another CB.

[denverYooper]

He also has an acting career. He plays the doorman's dachshund on Curious George.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I guess I should have said I didn't want Ted to draft another CB.

That I agree with. :)

[mraynrand]

He also has an acting career. He plays the doorman's dachshund on Curious George.

http://iacmusic.com/Gallery/LeftField_-_LeftField2012.jpg

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[Brandon494]

I really like this pick, a steal in the 5th round.

[Bretsky]

I don't think we need any more CBs...

Hopefully our first two picks end up being perennial pro bowlers
This draft was loaded with CB's IMO that can come in and play in the NFL

It's why I'm so shocked that TT went CB in round 1.

I'd still feel far better about this draft if we could flip picks with the Saints in round one and take one of the CB's left in round six instead of those classic TT upside over production picks.

[pbmax]

Hopefully our first two picks end up being perennial pro bowlers
This draft was loaded with CB's IMO that can come in and play in the NFL

It's why I'm so shocked that TT went CB in round 1.

I'd still feel far better about this draft if we could flip picks with the Saints in round one and take one of the CB's left in round six instead of those classic TT upside over production picks.

The draft was underpopulated with ILBs who were second round prospects (only one team disagreed). If Ted agreed, then its consistent with his approach not to jump his own board. He must really have been underwhelmed by the offers to trade down.

[King Friday]

I don't think there was much value in the draft after the first 20 or so picks. That is why there was little interest for teams to move up into the first round. Typically, it takes good 2nd tier QBs to drive a lot of interest there...where the bad teams at the top of the 2nd round who still need a QB are looking to move up and gain position for their guy of choice.

I wasn't overly impressed with any of the top ILB prospects. To be honest, Ryan before his injury looked just as good as any of those guys. If he can get back to 90%+ he'll be a better pick in the 4th round than those other guys were in the 2nd.

I like the Hundley pick. For a team like Green Bay, it is very difficult to find guys in the 5th round or later who can actually make the roster. This kid can be a good #3 QB for several years, and McCarthy can potentially make him look good enough to net a 3rd round pick in return for him down the road.

[vince]

Hundley has a lot to learn but his prototypical size, great arm and abundance of athleticism make him really intriguing. I don't think it's a stretch to say in three years he could be the best QB in this class.

He probably wants to play now but he couldn't ask for a better spot to be in. Learn from Rodgers, Mac and crew... Those film-room sessions will be huge for him. In the interim, he can back-up Rodgers, and Tolzein for a while, and bring an added dimension if/when pressed to play. Mac doesn't tend to make a lot of changes in the depth chart mid-season but when he gets his head around the NFL game he'll be better than Tolzein with his big arm and ability to tuck and run sooner than later. It looks like they'll be keeping three QB's this year.

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COMBINE RESULTS
40 YD 20 YD 10 YD BENCH VERT BROAD S 3-C-D
4.63 2.72 1.62 - 36 10'0" 3.98 6.93


STRENGTHS: Good-sized athlete with ideal height and a thick lower body...not an easy player to tackle and will deliver hits, running with power - stout frame to brush off contact in the pocket and as a ballcarrier...athletic footwork and flexible body control to move like a much smaller athlete...uses his legs effectively to pick up positive yards or move the pocket with natural instincts as a scrambler and the acceleration to erase pursuit angles.

Nice job stepping into his throws with easy arm strength to spin a pretty ball to all levels of the field - able to generate unforced velocity...quick set-up, rhythm and delivery motion...comfortable operating from a clean pocket with an even-keeled, calm demeanor...improved understanding of situational football...nice job selling play fakes and works his mannerisms well...durable and plays through pain (dealt with minor ankle and elbow injuries), starting every game of his career (40 career starts)...mature leader for his age with a gutsy demeanor even if it doesn't appear that way because of his reserved demeanor - voted team captain as a sophomore.

Wants to be great with the football passion and competitive drive needed for the NFL...career 29-11 record as a starter, becoming the first UCLA quarterback to produce at least nine wins in three straight seasons as a starter...leaves UCLA with the career records for touchdown passes (75), completions (837) and total offense (11,713) - finished second in school history in career passing yards (9,966) and rushing yards by a quarterback (1,747)...football bloodlines: father (Brett Sr.) played running back at Arizona.

WEAKNESSES: Poor pocket awareness and presence, struggling to decipher and recognize pressures...drops his eyes early and allows defenders to disrupt his tempo, struggling to manage the pocket and stare down the gun barrel, especially with interior pressures...too easily rattled and doesn't play with consistent confidence in the pocket...needs to develop his internal clock, holding the ball too long and allowing the pocket to swallow him up.

Struggles to reset his feet and eyes once moved from initial spot...doesn't show much anticipation at this point in his development, usually waiting for his target to come open before delivering...questionable processing speed with gun-shy tendencies, not challenging tight coverages...too methodical at times and doesn't read blitzes to speed up his process...needs to quicken his eyes and expand his vision...downfield ball placement isn't a strength with most of his completions coming on throws under 10 yards on screens, quick slants and swing passes...poor ball security with 29 career fumble the last three seasons.

COMPARES TO: Randall Cunningham, ex-Eagles: Hundley possesses a combination of size, athleticism, grace and arm strength reminiscent of the former Pro Bowler Cunningham.

IN OUR VIEW: On the surface, Hundley's skill-set seems every bit as tantalizing as Oregon's Marcus Mariota or Florida State's Jameis Winston. However, Hundley needs to improve in the critical subtleties of the quarterback position - pocket presence, reading defenses and ball placement.

--Dane Brugler & Rob Rang

PLAYER OVERVIEW

With dual-threat quarterbacks Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick leading their respective clubs to the Super Bowl the past three years, NFL teams may be growing more comfortable with the idea of highly athletic passers now than ever before. That's music to the ears of Hundley, whose graceful running and deep ball proficiency could earn him a surprisingly high grade come spring.

Coming out of Chandler, Ariz., Hundley was the first UCLA quarterback recruit to earn a five-star rating (scout.com). As a senior, he completed 139 of 225 passes for 2,348 yards, 20 touchdowns and two interceptions, while also leading the team in rushing with 856 yards (7.0 avg.) and nine touchdowns.

Hundley redshirted under Rick Neuheisel in 2011 but looked the part of a future blue-chip NFL prospect in guiding the Bruins to the Pac-12 South championship a year later with coach Jim Mora. Hundley threw for a school-record 3,740 passing yards, including 29 touchdowns against just 11 interceptions in his first season.

He followed that up with similar production the next two seasons, watching his completion percentage raise each year and his interceptions drop. Despite leaving with a year of eligibility remaining, Hundley is UCLA's all-time leader with 11,713 total yards and 75 touchdown passes against just 25 interceptions - only five of which came in 2014.

The concern with Hundley is that statistics aside, he appears much the same now as he did two years ago. He still has a tendency to drop his eyes and become a running back once he feels a pass rush rather than remaining poised in the pocket and keeping his passing options open. To achieve success in the NFL, there is no question that he'll need to improve in this area.

Given the steep drop-off in talent following Florida State's Jameis Winston and Oregon's Marcus Mariota, however, teams could see Hundley as a relative value with plenty of upside to develop. It has been a long time since a Bruins' quarterback has excited scouts. The last UCLA quarterback drafted, in fact, was Cade McNown, whom the Chicago Bears selected in the first round in 1999.

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Weston Hodkiewicz @WesHod · 18h 18 hours ago
TT on Hundley: It wasn't really planned. It's just something that happened. We thought it was an opportunity to do something

[Carolina_Packer]

Our last QB named Brett had a pretty solid career.

[mraynrand]

We thought it was an opportunity to do something

Thanks for the deep insight, Ted.

[Brandon494]

This guy will be a future 2nd rounder for us.

[pbmax]

This guy will be a future 2nd rounder for us.

Will he be better than Brunell and Brooks? Only Hasselbeck commanded a top pick so far (REYNOLDS!)

[SkinBasket]

Who would hear this guy's name and think he's black?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtzQmwdIYAE_hS4.jpg

[3irty1]

Not going to lie, I don't see it with this guy. Awesome physical tools and doesn't shit his pants in the pocket but he takes forever to make his reads. Towards the end of the season you just seem him make one read and take off or decide where the balls going before the snap.

[vince]

Shitty line and getting beat up will do that. Maybe he won't overcome that but it seems to me that you can coach/drill that out of him.

[pbmax]

Great writeup of the top four QBs, that includes Hundley. There is a GIF of him being very patient in the pocket and going to the correct read with a blitz on. He is also 2 seconds too late and gets picked when it should have been an easy reception.

http://grantland.com/features/2015-nfl-draft-quarterback-evaluation-formula-jameis-winston-marcus-mariota-brett-hundley-bryce-petty/

http://i0.wp.com/espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/hundleyint.gif

[vince]

Brohm never could speed up his mental clock so nothing's guaranteed.

[esoxx]

Nor could Vince Young.

[George Cumby]

Thanks for the deep insight, Ted.

I'd like to play some poker with the man.

[mraynrand]

I'd like to play some poker with the man.

I'd spot him $5000 and take 20% of the return

[pbmax]

UCLA had a progression read offense according to his college QB coach.


Mazzone refutes the notion that Hundley didn't handle multiple reads in UCLA's offense. He said there is a "1, 2, 3, 4, 5" progression with every pass play and that Hundley made quick, effective decisions.

His tip is that Hundley has to be more willing to throw into tighter windows.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/qb-hundley-praised-by-former-coaches-b99496041z1-303023571.html

[pbmax]

Longer quote about the UCLA offense from JSO story above, if you want to get slightly irrational, you can see teams passing on talent because they aren't comfortable with the college offense. However, its also clear that the UCLA offense is more Seattle in terms of progressions than West Coast Offense.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/303029201.html


On the criticism that he didn't go through progressions in UCLA's offense... “Our offense is based off progressions. You do go through 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 through every passing play we have. The ball comes out quick in our offense, which is great, because in the NFL you can’t hang onto the ball very long. So with his quick delivery with his quick decisions he’s made throughout his whole career, I think he’ll do just fine in any NFL system he runs.

“And watching that first Seattle/Green Bay game, Russell Wilson ran the zone read to the left, the outside receiver fake-blocked, went down the field and Russell threw it — Brett has run that play his whole career. He did it against Utah his sophomore year. So it’s kind of funny. They’re talking about how amazing that scheme was and I’m like, ‘We’ve been running that for four years now. It’s funny watching the NFL, and them taking ideas from college football, and it seems like, oh, that’s the first time it’s ever been shown. No, we do that every day.”

The difference between his college and pro offenses? Pre snap reads were the most important reads he made in college.


On other plays Hundley ran in college that could transfer... “I remember what the Dallas game and they’re in 2-back sets, and a couple times you see Aaron flip his feet real quick and throw a quick out to Randall. It’s like, man, Aaron makes these quick accurate throws and quick decisions and throughout Brett’s career that’s what he does for a living. Setting his feet and seeing, just by alignment, just horizontally who we have out flanked, that’s the whole offense we ran. So if you’re looking for a guy who can see the weakness of a defense on the second level to the third level, he sees it on every down. It’s not a huddle offense that runs the ball a lot that breaks the huddle, goes to the line of scrimmage, hands the ball off. We’re constantly looking for that defender that we cannot block as an O-Line. Brett’s awareness for knowing what the O-Line can’t handle, he did that every down on a run play, on a pass play.

[3irty1]

That's some encouraging stuff.

I don't think MM sees backup QB as just an insurance policy position. That guy is instrumental in preparing the defense by running the scout team offense. I don't think its any coincidence that since Wilson, Kaepernick, RGIII, and Newton all entered the NFC we brought in Seneca Wallace and Vince Young as our backups. Hundley has the superman toolset to give a real simulation of those guys.

[3irty1]

Another thought I had about the Hundley pick is I wonder if part of this pick had anything to do with the owners discussions of changing the extra point. One of the proposed rule changes this year is to move it to the 1.5 yard line to incentivize teams to go for 2. This rule could birth the 2-pt specialist QB and you'd be hard pressed to find a better prototype than Hundley.

[George Cumby]

I'd spot him $5000 and take 20% of the return

Exactly!

[pbmax]

Another thought I had about the Hundley pick is I wonder if part of this pick had anything to do with the owners discussions of changing the extra point. One of the proposed rule changes this year is to move it to the 1.5 yard line to incentivize teams to go for 2. This rule could birth the 2-pt specialist QB and you'd be hard pressed to find a better prototype than Hundley.

I think for M3 it's all the above. For Ted it checked ALL the boxes of value. Talent/production/upside better than Round, important position where player is, before a snap is taken, likely an upgrade, and beside the Collins kid, he was probably the highest rated player on the board. I bet they thought about him in the fourth too.

[red]

Another thought I had about the Hundley pick is I wonder if part of this pick had anything to do with the owners discussions of changing the extra point. One of the proposed rule changes this year is to move it to the 1.5 yard line to incentivize teams to go for 2. This rule could birth the 2-pt specialist QB and you'd be hard pressed to find a better prototype than Hundley.

thats what we need, more specialists

:roll:

[Patler]

Interesting tidbits on Hundley from the GBPG:


Two mornings after the NFL draft, UCLA coach Jim Mora Jr. called to see how his former quarterback was doing.

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The fifth-round draft pick told him he already was watching film of the Packers' offense — five days before rookie minicamp.

"That kind of, to me, indicates the type of mindset this guy has," Mora told Press-Gazette Media. "Monday morning, he's preparing for minicamp already. That's the kind of kid you're getting in Green Bay with Brett Hundley."

Mora said he wasn't surprised his former pupil was studying. This is the Hundley he knew for four years at UCLA. The guy teammates voted a captain during fall camp entering his redshirt freshman season, before he'd ever taken a snap.

At UCLA, Mora said, Hundley always was a leader. He outworked his peers, preparing even when nobody was watching. Mora said he expects Hundley to have the same work ethic in Green Bay.

"He's just a very motivated kid," Mora said. "He has the keys to the meeting room, he has a film machine at home. He's the first one in, and the last one out. All those clichés that describe great work ethic and great leadership — Brett, he is the cliché."

Eliot Wolf, the Packers' director of player personnel, described Hundley a different way Saturday. "Football nerd," Wolf called him. That was the first impression Wolf had after meeting Hundley at the NFL combine in February.

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"I love football," Hundley said. "It's just who I am, and what's bred inside of me. I love being a quarterback. I love knowing everything about the game. I could sit here and watch film all day with you and just learn. I like knowledge, to put it like that.

"If I don't know something, I want to know it, and I think that's the way I approach things. That's the way I approach football. I think Green Bay is the perfect organization to learn as much as possible, and they have the best coaches to help me do that, and Aaron Rodgers."
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On Saturday, Hundley called landing in Green Bay a "blessing in disguise." Mora said he emphasized the point to him on the phone Monday.

[Patler]

And from JSOnline:

From his HS coach:



At Chandler High School (Ariz.), coach Jim Ewan kept Hundley on the junior varsity squad as a sophomore. Ewan admits Hundley wasn't happy about it, but then he outworked everyone.

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"That's the kind of work ethic he has," Ewan said, "he'll outwork people in the weight room."

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And Ewan points to a game vs. rival Centennial. Trailing, 28-27, Hundley led his team to the 8-yard line and threaded two passes to his go-to receiver in the end zone.

Both were dropped. The game ended. Immediately Hundley ran over to hug his teammate.

"Mentally," Ewan said, "he is the toughest kid I've ever worked with, and I've been doing this 44 years now."




From UCLA QB coach Taylor Mazzone:



Mazzone dives into the story of UCLA naming Hundley the starter the seventh practice of his sophomore year. He dropped to a knee, broke out in tears and called his dad immediately.

"To see how much it meant to him to be named the starter is pretty special," Mazzone said. "For Brett to represent your team, you're in good hands."

"I guarantee," Mazzone said, "when you see Brett's first practice and the ball's coming out, you'll think 'Wow, this kid could have been a top-tier pitcher in major-league baseball.'"

Smarts? Mazzone remembers Hundley always carrying a notebook, writing down every word every coach told him. At the line, Hundley knew who the unblocked defender was. Mazzone never re-watched a game and wondered aloud, What is he thinking?

[mraynrand]

"I guarantee," Mazzone said, "when you see Brett's first practice and the ball's coming out, you'll think 'Wow, this kid could have been a top-tier pitcher in major-league baseball.'"

Does he have a no baseball clause in his contract? Indians need a replacement for washed up Cy Young winner Corey Kluber.

[Pugger]

From a tweet I saw online someone said he was the best looking QB he's seen in a rookie only camp in GB in a while. I can't remember who tweeted it presently...

[red]

so, what happens in 3 years if the kid starts to shine in preseasons and in other game time he might get

do we trade him for big time picks, or do we have the favre saga pt deux?

a-rod would be 34 by then

[Brandon494]

so, what happens in 3 years if the kid starts to shine in preseasons and in other game time he might get

do we trade him for big time picks, or do we have the favre saga pt deux?

a-rod would be 34 by then

Depends if A-Rod keeps changing his mind on retirement.

[Carolina_Packer]

If A-Rod is still healthy and being himself, then nothing as far as A-Rod is concerned. If someone else comes calling, listen to offers, but I wonder if they try and anticipate that and get a third option. I know Tolzien is there now, but who knows where he will be in 2 years. Let's say in that time that Hundley is a solid backup to A-Rod and making a good impression in pre-season. You'd almost have to have a third option with a legit ability to backup, should Hundley be flipped for a draft pick. We'll see how it goes.

[mraynrand]

Depends if A-Rod keeps changing his mind on retirement.

"I know I can still play"

[th87]

"I know I can still pluy"

Fixed.