Jason Pierre Paul Still Has Flesh on Fingers

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Jason Pierre-Paul has burns, but his fingers remain intact (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/06/jason-pierre-paul-has-burns-but-his-fingers-remain-intact/)


According to Paul Schwartz of the New York Post (http://nypost.com/2015/07/05/jason-pierre-paul-severely-injures-hand-in-fireworks-accident/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow), some of the flesh on the Giants defensive ends’ hand was burned off his palm and fingers, but his fingers are intact. (Sorry if you were eating breakfast while reading this.)

Yoga and free weights will help with a full recovery.

[Rastak]

Jason Pierre-Paul has burns, but his fingers remain intact (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/06/jason-pierre-paul-has-burns-but-his-fingers-remain-intact/)



Yoga and free weights will help with a full recovery.


Good ole 4th of July. My wife showed me a story about a kid about 22 partying with friends in Maine and he put a firework on his head and lit it.


It did not end well.


http://fox13now.com/2015/07/05/man-shoots-off-firework-from-top-of-his-head-dies-instantly/

[mraynrand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wafhDIMU6w

too coarse?

[Rastak]

I actually feel bad now. Seems like the guy was a good bloke. His brother thinks he was just messing around and accidently lit it. His brother said there was no rushing him to the hospital because there was nothing left.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/maine-man-dies-launching-firework-top-head-article-1.2282157



anyway. I seem to be bored and off topic tonight.

[Fritz]

A weather forecaster on Detroit TV, Dave Rexroth, lost an eye last year in a fireworks accident. Incredible. Really likeable guy, too.

He's become the spokesperson around here for the "don't-play-around-with-fireworks" group.

[Patler]

Giants have withdrawn a long term $60M offer to JPP that they had on the table. Franchise tender remains:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000500185/article/new-york-giants-pull-60m-offer-to-jason-pierrepaul

[Rastak]

NFL radio just said he had his index finger amputated this morning.

[red]

It's not a good sign when reps from the giants are in the area and trying to see him, and he won't meet with them

[hoosier]

According to ESPN, JPP's official combine numbers have been revised. Arm length is now 32 3/4 ".

[Joemailman]

They'll just have a special glove made for him and he'll be fine. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7b/3d/fd/7b3dfd641d3811d100476ad3286c6556.jpg

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It's not a good sign when reps from the giants are in the area and trying to see him, and he won't meet with them

Hard to talk when you are anesthetized and undergoing surgery.

But his prognosis is good. Dr. Mark Chao, MD Twitter says that index finger provides little of the leverage for a power grip. However, he probably gets a few less tipped balls.

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I'd like to see some numbers on this but ...

David J. Chao, MD ‏@ProFootballDoc 46m46 minutes ago
My ranking of finger importance in a defensive end:
1) thumb
2) ring
3) pinkie (4th & 5th most important for power grip)
4) middle
5) index

[smuggler]

CJ Wilson lost some fingers the same day. Crazy, but it could be way worse.

[Guiness]

CJ Wilson lost some fingers the same day. Crazy, but it could be way worse.

Well, there was the guy that killed himself by setting them off on his head...

[pittstang5]

I guess it's a good thing Quarless didn't play with fireworks. How could he survive without his trigger finger?

[MadScientist]

Giants have withdrawn a long term $60M offer to JPP that they had on the table. Franchise tender remains:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000500185/article/new-york-giants-pull-60m-offer-to-jason-pierrepaul

Plus if/when he signs the tender, the Giants can put him on the Non-football Injury list and not pay him until he recovers. Sensible way to keep his rights, but not reward blowing his finger off.


How long before JPP learns to use it to his advantage: "No ref, I wasn't flipping you the bird, I was just pointing with my middle finger since my index is gone."

[mraynrand]

Time to bring in the experts from Cyberdyne Systems

https://img0.etsystatic.com/040/1/8490334/il_340x270.604996990_kr0t.jpg

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Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 1h1 hour ago
Source says JPP won't sign franchise tender until confident he can pass physical to prevent #Giants from putting on NFI, having full control

Word was the JPP didn't like the long term offer the Giants had on the table (and pulled). That, plus having not signed the Tender, he has some leeway. But he will have to get healthy quick or his rehab becomes a holdout.

[MadScientist]

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 1h1 hour ago
Source says JPP won't sign franchise tender until confident he can pass physical to prevent #Giants from putting on NFI, having full control

Word was the JPP didn't like the long term offer the Giants had on the table (and pulled). That, plus having not signed the Tender, he has some leeway. But he will have to get healthy quick or his rehab becomes a holdout.

Not much of true holdout since 1) he is not under contract, and 2) he can't sign a multi-year contract after a certain date anyway (July 15?). If he doesn't sign until he passes a physical, the effect is the same as being on the NFI - he can't play and isn't getting paid. He just won't attend meetings and the rehab gets done outside the team. He's in full control of not getting paid. The only thing I can think of is that he is trying to negotiate some sort of deal where he gets the Giants to agree to give him something instead of nothing when he is on the NFI list.

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Not much of true holdout since 1) he is not under contract, and 2) he can't sign a multi-year contract after a certain date anyway (July 15?). If he doesn't sign until he passes a physical, the effect is the same as being on the NFI - he can't play and isn't getting paid. He just won't attend meetings and the rehab gets done outside the team. He's in full control of not getting paid. The only thing I can think of is that he is trying to negotiate some sort of deal where he gets the Giants to agree to give him something instead of nothing when he is on the NFI list.

Yeah, I am not in favor of calling players not under contract a holdout, but I couldn't think of another term that clearly indicates he is missing camp time.

[Guiness]

Yeah, I am not in favor of calling players not under contract a holdout, but I couldn't think of another term that clearly indicates he is missing camp time.

Unemployed?

[pbmax]

Firework explosion as negotiating step.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/11/if-giants-guarantee-salary-jpp-will-return-by-week-one/


In the aftermath of Jason Pierre-Paul’s fireworks injury, we explained that his best move would be to wait to sign his franchise tender until he’s cleared to play. On Friday, ESPN reported that Pierre-Paul indeed intends to do just that.


A source with knowledge of the situation told PFT earlier in the week that, indeed, Pierre-Paul would show up by Week One if the Giants agree to pay him regardless of whether he’s on the NFI list. Without that, JPP has nothing to gain by signing the tender before he’s cleared to play.

also http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/13232632/new-york-giants-jason-pierre-paul-unlikely-sign-contract-tender-healthy