Official Packers vs. Chiefs Game Day Thread

[Packgator]

Big 1st down there.

[KYPack]

1st down!

[gbgary]

a slant finally

[pbmax]

Walker in as sixth O lineman.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This game has sucked the last 45 minutes. Tell that to a Bear fan, I spose.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Out of TO's. Not good.

[red]

how bout instead of just trying to get them to jump offsides everytime then taking a timeout

how bout just snapping the fucking ball and running a normal play

[HarveyWallbangers]

Linsley much improved?

Not much to improve on really. Graded out as a top 5 center last year, according to PFF.

[SMBASS]

Jones has been money these first few games. What a last minute pick-up. You can't script it much better.

[Packgator]

1 2 3 4 5..... Counting my blessings

[Packgator]

Not much to improve on really. Graded out as a top 5 center last year, according to PFF.

Pack set at center for the next 10 years.

[gbgary]

so tired of the "chip on the shoulder" and the Rodgers draft story.

[red]

Janis with catch and with a flag. Not helping his case there.

yeah, with his size and speed he needs to be a deep threat. if he can't do that, he's pretty worthless

[red]

come on guys, play like you want to win the fucking game

[Packgator]

Jones has been money these first few games. What a last minute pick-up. You can't script it much better.

Yes. Huge.

[pbmax]

yeah, with his size and speed he needs to be a deep threat. if he can't do that, he's pretty worthless

Well, he does help on ST. :lol:

[KYPack]

DRod needs to make a spectacular grab there.

For grins, at least.

[Packgator]

yeah, with his size and speed he needs to be a deep threat. if he can't do that, he's pretty worthless

Packers need a deep threat. About all they lack right now.

[SMBASS]

yeah, with his size and speed he needs to be a deep threat. if he can't do that, he's pretty worthless

Would love to see Janis become a legitimate option as a deep threat. Make other teams have to at least respect the possibility. This O is missing that element without Jordy.

[red]

hey asshole, the nice black doctor just fucking told you like 5 times that he didn't want your fucking shitty product.

so you decide to fly out to see him?

if some dumb mother fucker showed up at my office after i tried to nicely tell him NO multiple times, i'd shoot at first sight

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yes. Huge.

http://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/donaldtrump61815.jpg

[Harlan Huckleby]

sorry for that rude and large interruption

[Packgator]

Sucks starters have to still be playing in this lopsided game. Just don't get hurt. Or give up anothervTD.

[Maxie the Taxi]

They must stop them. If they score, it's onsides kick on a wet field.

[pbmax]

Right now the achilles heal to the offense might be the unwillingness of the O to go deep with the tackles playing against good pass rushers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

this game is sucking. i paid for 4 quarters of entertainment

[red]

Sucks starters have to still be playing in this lopsided game. Just don't get hurt. Or give up anothervTD.

maybe they need to learn how to close out a game for a change

same shit that cost us a super bowl last year

[SMBASS]

C'mon D. Put this one to bed.

[pbmax]

I hate four minute defense. Makes that KC offense look functional.

[Harlan Huckleby]

OK. THAT's entertainment

[red]

be carefull clay, you tackled him a bit too hard there

[Harlan Huckleby]

terrible spot

[red]

shit spot

[Packgator]

Ray Nitschke wasn't a 5 time Pro Bowler?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Just too much garbage time defense

[red]

thats why you don't piss away timeouts

[Harlan Huckleby]

no TOs to challenge

[red]

he was a full yard short

[Harlan Huckleby]

Randall should be ejected for rough play

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ray Nitschke wasn't a 5 time Pro Bowler?

something about Butkis

[gbgary]

free play Rodgers= td
free play smith= int

[pbmax]

Free yards, No challenge because the offense took TOs to save a 5 yard penalty with a 2 TD lead.

[Packgator]

Randall should be ejected for rough play

Today's football.....surprised that wasn't some sort of penalty.

[red]

Ray Nitschke wasn't a 5 time Pro Bowler?

only 1

[pbmax]

Rollins in dime. Shields is back I think.

[Maxie the Taxi]

KC should not be in this game.

[Packgator]

only 1

Seriously? I'm shocked.

[red]

we have GOT to figure out how to end a game

this is getting ridiculous

[pbmax]

KC should not be in this game.

They aren't with a 16 point deficit and 2 and 1/2 minutes to play. But the D cannot get them off the field.

[pbmax]

Perry with STRIP SACK and no one saw the fumble.

[gbgary]

something about Butkis

Ray was voted best middle linebacker of the first 50 years which included dick's tenure.

[Packgator]

Perry with STRIP SACK and no one saw the fumble.

KC'S lucky on that one.

[Maxie the Taxi]

They aren't with a 16 point deficit and 2 and 1/2 minutes to play. But the D cannot get them off the field.

If they aren't, then why am I so nervous?:-|

[Packgator]

Ray with voted best middle linebacker of the first 50 years which included dick's tenure.

And 1 Pro Bowl? Wo the hell was voting.

[pbmax]

If they aren't, then why am I so nervous?:-|

Because of ST.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Eff me

[pbmax]

And that is the problem with Joe Thomas in that spot.

[gbgary]

guess they haven't figured out they're going to run up the middle yet.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ray with voted best middle linebacker of the first 50 years which included dick's tenure.

Well, Butkus went to 8 pro-bowls, played in same conference as Nitschke. That explains why RN had only 1 pro bowl.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Game, set, match.

[red]

GAME

boy we sure do know how to make a dominating game interesting

[pbmax]

Game over.

[Bossman641]

How do the Chiefs end up a full yard short on 4th down and get a first down without a measurement even?

[red]

How do the Chiefs end up a full yard short on 4th down and get a first down without a measurement even?

really shitty spot and green bay with no TO's to challenge

[gbgary]

horrible defensive play call/formation on that td. the middle was totally unoccupied.

[Packgator]

Packers have wasted a bunch of timeouts in the first 3 games.

[pbmax]

Let's get a first.

[red]

horrible defensive player call/formation on that td. the middle was totally unoccupied.

soooo

base capers d?

[SMBASS]

Packers have wasted a bunch of timeouts in the first 3 games.

Yeah, clock management in all forms has never seemed to be a strong asset for this staff.

[red]

Packers have wasted a bunch of timeouts in the first 3 games.

yup, and what kills me is that they're always at the line with like 20 seconds left on the play clock, but still can't get off a play

[Maxie the Taxi]

How about Max McGee!!! Gruden is a genius.

[pittstang5]

kick it out of bounds?

[red]

How about Max McGee!!! Gruden is a genius.

everyone that played in that game was just the best ever

-jay gruden

[pbmax]

I cannot stand this offsense when it needs to eat clock.

[pittstang5]

I cannot stand this offsense when it needs to eat clock.

+1

[SMBASS]

I cannot stand this offsense when it needs to eat clock.

I agree pb. They seem to lose all sense of urgency and just go through the motions.

[Maxie the Taxi]

How far can Smith throw it?

[red]

I cannot stand this offsense when it needs to eat clock.

or put away a game

[Packgator]

3-0

[pbmax]

+1


I agree pb. They seem to lose all sense of urgency and just go through the motions.

This game is not even the best example with a 2 score lead and you can take the oppo down to no timeouts and 40 seconds left.

But why run left and risk the ball if that is the case? Kneel if you are just going surrender possession.

[gbgary]

Well, Butkus went to 8 pro-bowls, played in same conference as Nitschke. That explains why RN had only 1 pro bowl.

Nitschke was named all pro (which has always been more prestigious than pro bowl) 3 consecutive years, named to 50th and 75th anniversary teams. dick was on the 75th team and was named all pro 6 times. their careers overlapped. Ray started his career a few years before dick. both were great. the great tommy nobis was there too.

[Upnorth]

Up 16 with 5 minutes left, I thought we were going to lose. I just hate our end game...

[Bossman641]

Up 16 with 5 minutes left, I thought we were going to lose. I just hate our end game...

I dunno if it's just shell shock from Seattle but I feel the same way. Defense flew around and played well for 2.5 quarters. Then they just sort of laid down. And the run calls were pretty lacking as well.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Nitschke was named all pro (which has always been more prestigious than pro bowl) 3 consecutive years, named to 50th and 75th anniversary teams (no butkus).

This is painful.

The question was why RN only went to 1 pro bowl.

Dick Butkus went to 8 pro bowls.

I would suggest that the reason RN only went to 1 pro bowl was that Dick Butkus was voted ahead of him those 8 years.

If you disagree, what is your explanation for RN only making 1 pro bowl?

[esoxx]

Randall should be ejected for rough play

He's an ankle biter.

[gbgary]

This is painful.

The question was why RN only went to 1 pro bowl.

Dick Butkus went to 8 pro bowls.

I would suggest that the reason RN only went to 1 pro bowl was that Dick Butkus was voted ahead of him those 8 years.

If you disagree, what is your explanation for RN only making 1 pro bowl?
not disagreeing so much. see my edited post.

[mraynrand]

I cannot stand this offsense when it needs to eat clock.

well the Packers couldn't run the ball after about a quarter and a half. That's why this game seemed to stretch to infinity. That, and the penalties.

[mraynrand]

He's an ankle biter.

LOL. Wistian.

[Bossman641]

Randall lost his WR twice tonight I believe, but he can clearly make tackles.

[Harlan Huckleby]

well the Packers couldn't run the ball after about a quarter and a half. That's why this game seemed to stretch to infinity. That, and the penalties.

I agree, it was miserable to watch. You have to keep running some in any event, but why keep banging head against wall? Starks had bad game, and the O-line wasn't opening anything up.

[Packgator]

This is painful.

The question was why RN only went to 1 pro bowl.

Dick Butkus went to 8 pro bowls.

I would suggest that the reason RN only went to 1 pro bowl was that Dick Butkus was voted ahead of him those 8 years.

If you disagree, what is your explanation for RN only making 1 pro bowl?

Didn't at least 2 middle LB'ers get named to the Pro Bowl for each team? 2 guys other than him were going every year but one.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Didn't at least 2 middle LB'ers get named to the Pro Bowl for each team? 2 guys other than him were going every year but one.

Looks like you could be right. Sam Huff, Tommy Nobis, Lee Roy Jordan, other MLBs Plus Butkus soaking up 8 slots.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1968/probowl.htm

[Joemailman]

Joe Schmidt of Detroit and Bill George of Chicago were great players before Butkus came along.

[pbmax]

well the Packers couldn't run the ball after about a quarter and a half. That's why this game seemed to stretch to infinity. That, and the penalties.

I almost want them to go back to the pistol to make the run game less predictable from shotgun.

[pbmax]

Randall lost his WR twice tonight I believe, but he can clearly make tackles.

And I will give wist this:

For whatever reason, assignment, his own protection, he is only playing press and he is not back pedaling much. But the basis for comparison I have is limited. Woodson was not usually in backpedal and neither was Harris. Tramontana could play off and man. Shields is mostly man.

Hayward is the only one who truly prefers to be off of his guy.

Is it scheme, assignment, choice or limitation?

[Bossman641]

And I will give wist this:

For whatever reason, assignment, his own protection, he is only playing press and he is not back pedaling much. But the basis for comparison I have is limited. Woodson was not usually in backpedal and neither was Harris. Tramontana could play off and man. Shields is mostly man.

Hayward is the only one who truly prefers to be off of his guy.

Is it scheme, assignment, choice or limitation?

Doesn't Perry allow guys to play whatever they are most comfortable with? I recall reading articles as much. Shields normally plays press, House press, Williams both but leaned towards off, Hayward off.

[pbmax]

Doesn't Perry allow guys to play whatever they are most comfortable with? I recall reading articles as much. Shields normally plays press, House press, Williams both but leaned towards off, Hayward off.

Yes, I think that has been reported before. I don't mean that wist is correct in ascribing the cause, just that he might have seen what he claimed.

[3irty1]

This game is not even the best example with a 2 score lead and you can take the oppo down to no timeouts and 40 seconds left.

But why run left and risk the ball if that is the case? Kneel if you are just going surrender possession.

For the chance at sticking them with the hard count.

[pbmax]

For the chance at sticking them with the hard count.

Yeah, but the odds on that go down when run is the only option. Which is another reason why I think they should pass out of that situation once in a while.

The best time killer was that 17 play KC scoring drive that got it to a 10 point game.

[Smidgeon]

1. No interception by Rodgers at home.
2. Packer Defense with sack in 38 straight games.
3. KC streak of no touchdown passes to WRs.
4. Packers have never beaten the Chiefs at Lambeau.
5. Packers have yet to drop a pass this season.

Haven't read the thread, so I don't know if this was revisited, but those in bold remain streaks. Those in italics are broken streaks. And I confess, I'm not sure on 5, but RR dropped one, but I don't know if it counted as deflected. At very worst, the streak can be restated to say the WRs have yet to drop a pass.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nitschke vs. Butkus isn't really a fair comparison. A couldn't care less about the Pro Bowl. Ray was 1st or 2nd team All-Pro seven times. Butkus did the same eight times. Ray was first team All-Pro in 1964, 1965, and 1966. Butkus came into the league in 1965. Both players made first team All-Pro in 1965. Ray (1st team) made it over Butkus (2nd team) in 1966. Butkus (1st team) made it over Ray (2nd team) in 1967. In 1968 Ray was entering his 11th year in the league (and past his prime)--while Butkus was in his 4th year (and in his prime). To put that in perspective, Butkus never made 1st or 2nd team All-Pro after his 8th year in the league (he made 1st or 2nd team his first eight years).