Official Bye Week Thread

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Montgomery: It's just a sprain. X-rays were negative. Not ruling anything out. Staying prayerful and positive and just praying for the best. ... No promises, but not ruling anything out.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/clubhouse-live/2015/10/19/packers-bakhtiari-close-knit-group/74211264/

Transcript of radio show with Bach and Monty.

[Joemailman]

Thank God. I need a break from starting the Game Day threads. I'm kind of banged up.

[Fritz]

Thank God. I need a break from starting the Game Day threads. I'm kind of banged up.


Are you going to do some self-scouting over the bye?

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The Packers still must have felt good enough about Lacy's health to deactivate third-string running back Alonzo Harris, who had been active in the previous three games. Whatever the reason, Starks played well when he was called upon. Although Starks has battled injuries for years, his talent never has been questioned.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2015/10/19/packers-firm-eddie-lacys-reduced-reps/74230686/

Considering how banged up they were, putting Harris on inactive seems to indicate Lacy was better (if not 100%).

I wonder if this is a combo of getting Starks going again (he and Lacy are two completely different runners, one a zone guy, the other more Power O) or something that M3 thought would work versus the Chargers.

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JS Comments ‏@JSComments 9m9 minutes ago
McCarthy has two weeks to fix this broken offense or this season could fall apart quickly and don't tell me to relax Aaron.

27 points. This person doesn't know what broken really means.

[hoosier]

I for one am perfectly content to see that the Packers have something to work on during the bye week. 6-0 is certainly better than 3-3, but early-season dominance doesn't usually translate into late-season success these days.

[Fritz]

I for one am perfectly content to see that the Packers have something to work on during the bye week. 6-0 is certainly better than 3-3, but early-season dominance doesn't usually translate into late-season success these days.


Personally, I'd like to see Aaron Rodgers work on saying something other than "3 - 19" all the damn time. How about "2- 18" or "Ble - 19, your mother's undies" or something to throw the other team off.

[MadScientist]

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2015/10/19/packers-firm-eddie-lacys-reduced-reps/74230686/

Considering how banged up they were, putting Harris on inactive seems to indicate Lacy was better (if not 100%).

I wonder if this is a combo of getting Starks going again (he and Lacy are two completely different runners, one a zone guy, the other more Power O) or something that M3 thought would work versus the Chargers.


I'm guessing they figured a dinged up Lacy could still pick up the blitz better than the rookie. Lacy also garners more respect from the defense than the unknown guy. If they needed a power run they could have put in Kuhn and Rip. If they can't gain a couple of yards with that combo, they have real problems.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRxEY51XIAAsBok.jpg:large

[hoosier]

Personally, I'd like to see Aaron Rodgers work on saying something other than "3 - 19" all the damn time. How about "2- 18" or "Ble - 19, your mother's undies" or something to throw the other team off.

Have you noticed he's been varying his idioms along with his cadence lately? 3-19 is still the most frequent but sometimes he just says "Ready, go!" Maybe that goes with the simplified game plan when lots of starters are out.

You don't throw the opponent off with a new idiom, you do that with dummy audibles like "New York bozo."

[mraynrand]

"I think when I'm in this idiom, I get a little carried away"

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/monty_python_holy_grail_sir_lancelot_3508.png

[pbmax]

"I think when I'm in this idiom, I get a little carried away"

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/monty_python_holy_grail_sir_lancelot_3508.png

"Message for you sir!"

http://www.zealeap.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/message-for-you-sir.jpg

[Zool]

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/526256/resized_monty-python-meme-generator-are-you-suggesting-coconuts-migrate-f5f98a.jpg

[Fritz]

Have you noticed he's been varying his idioms along with his cadence lately? 3-19 is still the most frequent but sometimes he just says "Ready, go!" Maybe that goes with the simplified game plan when lots of starters are out.

You don't throw the opponent off with a new idiom, you do that with dummy audibles like "New York bozo."


I disagree; I think you can if it's the right idiom. Imagine this:

"Three-nineteen! Three-nineteeeen! Panty sniffers! Hole pokers! Toejam! Hut, hut!"

[hoosier]

Ah, a bye week, now I can kick back and smell the.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk9WqTeyAys

[pbmax]

Ditka's a vegetarian!

http://www.womensavings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/beano1.jpg

[pbmax]

To Do List, Bye Week. Need more draw plays.

JS Comments ‏@JSComments 56m56 minutes ago
PACKER COACHES NEED TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE OFFENSIVE PLAYBOOK. DRAW PLAYS !!! DRAW PLAYS !! AND MORE DRAW PLAYS !!!

[pittstang5]

Personally, I'd like to see Aaron Rodgers work on saying something other than "3 - 19" all the damn time. How about "2- 18" or "Ble - 19, your mother's undies" or something to throw the other team off.

Could be worse, he could say Omaha!

[Striker]

Are you going to do some self-scouting over the bye?

He needs to adjust his pad level.

[channtheman]

Ditka's a vegetarian!

http://www.womensavings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/beano1.jpg

Is that what you call a young boy Madtown? Of course the female children were all called "beana's."

[gbgary]

was listening to bill michaels' show on monday. seems the media is trying to start something to keep everyone interested with this janis should get more involved and Rodgers just doesn't like him thing. janis will be buried on the bench as long as there's someone better than him on the team, or they're desperate as they are now, due to injuries. right now he's just not good enough.

[mraynrand]

Could be worse, he could say Omaha!

How about Oklahoma!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGUNrHWZaVs

[mraynrand]

was listening to bill michaels' show on monday. seems the media is trying to start something to keep everyone interested with this janis should get more involved and Rodgers just doesn't like him thing. janis will be buried on the bench as long as there's someone better than him on the team, or they're desperate as they are now, due to injuries. right now he's just not good enough.

Rodgers likes him, he just doesn't trust him. I bet Janis let him fall in one of those trust exercises in the preseason...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov01r1anE2E

[Tony Oday]

Let's wrap the team in bubble wrap...don't want any more injuries on a bye week.

[Joemailman]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-packers-vs-chargers-b99599301z1-334452891.html


ames Starks took the first snap, officially giving him the start, but Eddie Lacy replaced him for the next six plays. Rather than a slight, it appeared to be more of an acknowledgment that the coaches felt Starks was the better choice to run the opening toss off tackle. It gained 25 yards in part because it was beautifully blocked but also because Starks beat FS Eric Weddle to the break point. He gained 19 yards after that. Would Lacy have got there fast enough to deny Weddle a clean shot? At his weight, probably not. Some personnel people guess he's in the 260-pound range.

Lacy looks slow and weak to me. If his ankle is okay, I think he's out of shape 5 games into the season. He says his ankle is okay. I know he's started slow before. I just hope he doesn't eat too much of his Mom's crawfish (He's talked about this before) during the bye week.

[smuggler]

His ankle is not 100%. McCarthy said so after the game.

By the by, anyone else hear that Rodgers is going to be a dad?

[mraynrand]

His ankle is not 100%. McCarthy said so after the game.

By the by, anyone else hear that Rodgers is going to be a dad?

happy father's day

http://bullseye-prod.aggrego.org//wp-ag/wp-content/uploads/sites/72/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-22-at-10.25.43-AM.png?o=eyJ3aWR0aCI6NDUyLCJoZWlnaHQiOjQwNiwieCI6M C41LCJ5IjowLjV9&s=9fFVHa2fvG%2BI4JyRqZlLwvbD79I%3D
http://national.suntimes.com/national-sports/7/72/1337986/olivia-munn-aaron-rodgers-fathers-day

[swede]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-packers-vs-chargers-b99599301z1-334452891.html



Lacy looks slow and weak to me. If his ankle is okay, I think he's out of shape 5 games into the season. He says his ankle is okay. I know he's started slow before. I just hope he doesn't eat too much of his Mom's crawfish (He's talked about this before) during the bye week.

Patler has previously raised the specter of John Brockington. Lacy's career is likely to be short under the best of circumstances. If he drinks, eats, and refuses to work like a maniac in the off-season he will find out just how short an NFL career can be. He looked like a hungover, out of shape fatty on the fumble play. And I don't want to hear about no ankle neither.

Thank goodness Starks is eating gluten free and juicing.

Not THAT kind of juicing---the healthy kind.

[mraynrand]

Patler has previously raised the specter of John Brockington. Lacy's career is likely to be short under the best of circumstances. If he drinks, eats, and refuses to work like a maniac in the off-season he will find out just how short an NFL career can be. He looked like a hungover, out of shape fatty on the fumble play. And I don't want to hear about no ankle neither.

what about Lacy's ankle?


Sorry, that's how I roll...tide

[Freak Out]

260? 260! Damn....he ain't no Bus either.

[mraynrand]

260? 260! Damn....he ain't no Bus either.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4144/4844878675_f1ddc2d391.jpg

[mraynrand]

or:

http://www.johndee.com/pix/2003/apr17-8.jpg

[swede]

^
Disapproving whisper of Jim Gaffigan's person-on-the-street voice: "Did he just compare Eddie Lacy to a garbage truck in a sinkhole? That's not very nice."

[RashanGary]

They're saying Lacy is not injured. He is. R-E-L-A-X people. It's Eddie Lacy. He's a damn good running back and he'll be fine.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/OJ_Simpson_court.jpg

OJ Simpson is up around 260. It can happen to the best.

[Harlan Huckleby]

260? 260! Damn....he ain't no Bus either.

John Kuhn, Aaron Ripkowski, Alonzo Harris and Eddie Lacy in the same position group. Do you see anything wrong with this picture?

Penn State has a speedy freshman, Saquon Barkley, who looks like the next superstar. Why didn't TT sign him?

I hope James Starks' new-found fourth gear isn't a mirage. He runs so strong and fast.

[pbmax]

I haven't seen the media making the case, I have seen and heard fans making the case. Media are getting bombarded with "what are you not telling us about Janis/Rodgers" questions routinely, just check their chats and Twitter feed. Its almost more numerous than Fire Capers.

That said, the media is more than happy to keep mentioning this obliquely, because everyone is dying to know why Janis doesn't play more.

In other words, this is mostly Maxie's doing.

[pbmax]

John Kuhn, Aaron Ripkowski, Alonzo Harris and Eddie Lacy in the same position group. Do you see anything wrong with this picture?

Penn State has a speedy freshman, Saquon Barkley, who looks like the next superstar. Why didn't TT sign him?

I hope James Starks' new-found fourth gear isn't a mirage. He runs so strong and fast.

Ted's all out of fake IDs.

[pbmax]

McGinn on Janis: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-packers-vs-chargers-b99599301z1-334452891.html


After playing 47 snaps in his first 1 ½ seasons, Jeff Janis replaced injured Ty Montgomery (ankle) and logged 40. He broke off a deep route adeptly for 46 yards, and turned a shallow crosser against a botched coverage into 33 by turning on the jets. His small-school background wasn't the only reason a player of his size and speed fell far in the draft. His routes aren't refined, he lacks body control and his hands are average. Yet, the stunning advances Janis has made as a cover man on special teams leads one to believe he might develop as a receiver.

I would trust in the development of Janis more if that same description couldn't be used on Year 2 J. Bush.

[smuggler]

I do not think it's body control and hands that are keeping Janis off the field.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Up until two weeks ago Lacy was averaging 4.6 yards/carry and playing well in the passing game. Starks was averaging 3.6 yards/carry and dropping passes. Now, all of a sudden Lacy's a fat, used up has been. It's Eddie Lacy. He'll rebound.

[mraynrand]

Up until two weeks ago Lacy was averaging 4.6 yards/carry and playing well in the passing game. Starks was averaging 3.6 yards/carry and dropping passes. Now, all of a sudden Lacy's a fat, used up has been.

running backs lose it in an instant, don't they? :)

[mraynrand]

I do not think it's body control and hands that are keeping Janis off the field.

I agree. I think he doesn't know what's going on too often.

[pbmax]

running backs lose it in an instant, don't they? :)

We need a interjection for this.

aging!

telomere shortening!

[pbmax]

Up until two weeks ago Lacy was averaging 4.6 yards/carry and playing well in the passing game. Starks was averaging 3.6 yards/carry and dropping passes. Now, all of a sudden Lacy's a fat, used up has been. It's Eddie Lacy. He'll rebound.

I think he is banged up and the weight, if it is indeed up, isn't helping.

But the Packers can't be too concerned, or they really did not plan to run much, because they deactivated Harris when they knew they wanted Starks to get extra carries.

[mraynrand]

Lacy could benefit from some metformin

[Bossman641]

I think Lacy will bounce back in the second half, he's been a slow starter every year. But damn, I really wish he would have taken his diet/conditioning serious in the offseason. He said he was going to do it, tried it for a week or 2, and then said it wasn't for him.

[Joemailman]

I think he is banged up and the weight, if it is indeed up, isn't helping.

But the Packers can't be too concerned, or they really did not plan to run much, because they deactivated Harris when they knew they wanted Starks to get extra carries.

I wonder if Lacy's performance is partly why the Packers abandoned the run for much of the 2nd and 3rd quarters. I think Starks' injury history makes them careful about giving him too much of a workload. They may have been saving him a bit. I expect Lacy to rebound, but I don't think his problems are all the ankle. He's going to shorten his career if he doesn't take conditioning more seriously.

[denverYooper]

Could be worse, he could say Omaha!

I wouldn't be surprised if he said Omaha! in Denver.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I haven't seen the media making the case, I have seen and heard fans making the case. Media are getting bombarded with "what are you not telling us about Janis/Rodgers" questions routinely, just check their chats and Twitter feed. Its almost more numerous than Fire Capers.

That said, the media is more than happy to keep mentioning this obliquely, because everyone is dying to know why Janis doesn't play more.

In other words, this is mostly Maxie's doing.

"Enquiring minds want to know."

Simple as that.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I agree. I think he doesn't know what's going on too often.

An easy problem to solve....

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wwcF8SBVL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

[Pugger]

Personally, I'd like to see Aaron Rodgers work on saying something other than "3 - 19" all the damn time. How about "2- 18" or "Ble - 19, your mother's undies" or something to throw the other team off.

Yes, what in the hell does 3-19 mean, anyway?

[pbmax]

Anyone remember Favre's go to signal for snap counts?

[hoosier]

Anyone remember Favre's go to signal for snap counts?

Green 19 is what I remember. But his audible cadences also had a color scheme, I think it was blue.

[3irty1]

Anyone remember Favre's go to signal for snap counts?

Pretty sure early Favre had a cadence that had some meaning. Like it'd be blue-34 against a 30 front or blue-52 against an under front and so on.

I just remember him doing blue-58 all the time after the 90's.

[smuggler]

Favre's was Blue-42 most of the time I was watching. Maybe that's for a nickel defense with a 4-man front?

[sharpe1027]

I think he is banged up and the weight, if it is indeed up, isn't helping.

But the Packers can't be too concerned, or they really did not plan to run much, because they deactivated Harris when they knew they wanted Starks to get extra carries.

I think part of that was because they planned to run Montgomery and Cobb a fair amount. They were using that package early and giving Ty some carries before he got hurt. It might also be part of why the game plan moved away from the run.

[3irty1]

Favre's was Blue-42 most of the time I was watching. Maybe that's for a nickel defense with a 4-man front?

I think you're right. I remember kids in elementary school using that as their pickup football cadence! If that makes anyone feel old its because they are.

[pbmax]

From a Bewers forum where there was a rumor that Green 19 was actually 319, in honor of the father of Prince Fielder's career home run mark. Yeah, I know. So take it with a grain of salt, but this is the way I remember it:

Blue 58! Blue 58 set hut! Green 19! Green 19 set hut! snap.

EDIT: Video below makes it sound like Green 18.

[pbmax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33WpLuAqduk

[Pugger]

Green 19 is what I remember. But his audible cadences also had a color scheme, I think it was blue.

Blue 58 (something ending in 8 anyway...)?

[sharpe1027]

From a Bewers forum where there was a rumor that Green 19 was actually 319, in honor of the father of Prince Fielder's career home run mark. Yeah, I know. So take it with a grain of salt, but this is the way I remember it:

Blue 58! Blue 58 set hut! Green 19! Green 19 set hut! snap.

EDIT: Video below makes it sound like Green 18.

I recall green 18. I bet it switched slightly over time.

[pbmax]

The last few years have just been so stressful for woodbuck:

JS Comments ‏@JSComments 14m14 minutes ago
If they don't keep James Jones next year, after 50 years of bleeding Green and Gold, I'm done

Last straw.

[mraynrand]

The last few years have just been so stressful for woodbuck:

JS Comments ‏@JSComments 14m14 minutes ago
If they don't keep James Jones next year, after 50 years of bleeding Green and Gold, I'm done

Last straw.

Woody is a free spirit. A free, bitter, angry spirit.

[Joemailman]

The last few years have just been so stressful for woodbuck:

JS Comments ‏@JSComments 14m14 minutes ago
If they don't keep James Jones next year, after 50 years of bleeding Green and Gold, I'm done

Last straw.

Hell, I've just about got 50 years in. Woody has to have more than that.

[Fritz]

Woody is a free spirit. A free, bitter, angry spirit.

Free, bitter, angry, chained to Mabel, doomed to Ted.

[run pMc]

If they don't keep James Jones next year, it will be no surprise to me. Montgomery, Adams and the young-uns will be better, plus Jordy comes back.

[sharpe1027]

If they don't keep James Jones next year, it will be no surprise to me. Montgomery, Adams and the young-uns will be better, plus Jordy comes back.

Yes. Depends on the $ a little, but it is really more of a numbers game. Could go either way at this point.

[smuggler]

Blue 58 (something ending in 8 anyway...)?

That was in the early part of his career. Maybe he switched up at the end of his career?

[sharpe1027]

A lot of readers have been asking about cadences you use, whether they mean anything or if they have some personal significance...
Favre: "Most people use blue, green because it's just....Let me see, what's the best way to explain it. It's more rhythmic. Blue-18 is better than Black-18. A lot of teams use a black or red as a hot. When you hear that, there's an audible coming. And everyone's different. Some people when they say 'On 1,' it's really snapped on 1. Ours is more rhythmic. It's 'Blue-18, Blue-10, set-hut.' It all kind of runs together. I could use lavender is I wanted."

Fans were wondering if you do the same call since, like, Pop Warner or high school...
Favre: "Nah. It was probably...When I got here, under Mike Holmgren, the number you call is the actual defensive front and it even went back to Montana and those guys. It was was 'Blue-34' or 'Blue-43.' And so when I first got here, I had to do that. I don't know why they ever did that, but it was just, I guess, a way to keep the quarterback involved or whatever. The fronts you see nowadays, it would be 'Blue-52-wide-boss' for me. So it's just kind of evolved to 18 or 58. So...."


http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/31881259.html

[red]

JS Comments ‏@JSComments 9m9 minutes ago
McCarthy has two weeks to fix this broken offense or this season could fall apart quickly and don't tell me to relax Aaron.

27 points. This person doesn't know what broken really means.

seems like that person DID know what they ment

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seems like that person DID know what they ment

Perhaps, but they didn't say it was going to get worse.