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Patler
10-28-2015, 10:25 AM
Per this GBPG article:

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/insidersblog/2015/10/28/green-bay-packers-veterans-bonuses/74724100/

the Packers have about $7 million of their 2015 cap allocated to game day roster bonuses, and will save at least $1 million of that due to Guion's suspension and the injuries to Nelson, Raji, Bulaga, Burnett and Quarless.

pbmax
10-28-2015, 11:26 AM
Finally found a way to benefit from Packer injuries beside the development of depth.

Patler
10-28-2015, 11:38 AM
On the other hand, almost that much has been spent for replacements for Nelson, Guion and Quarless the games they haven't been on the 53 man roster. "Savings" from guys on IR are an illusion. Savings from guys inactive for a game are more real.

MadScientist
10-28-2015, 01:20 PM
It doesn't save the Packers cash, but it does give them more cap space.

Patler
10-28-2015, 01:53 PM
It doesn't save the Packers cash, but it does give them more cap space.

Often it actually costs more in cap space for the players replacing the guys on IR than the cap benefit from the injured player not earning his bonus. . For example, they are saving $500,000 in game day bonuses on Nelson, but they are paying Jones more than that to fill the roster spot that was opened by not having Nelson. I'm not sure if Jones gets them any veteran minimum cap benefits, but even if he does, they will still have an additional cap hit for Jones almost equal to what they gain from Nelson. Guion's game day bonus of $47K was more than the salaries of the rookies who took his roster spot, so there was some cap benefit there; but Quarless' roster replacement probably costs more against the cap than the benefit from Quarless not earning his bonus ($12K/game).

smuggler
10-28-2015, 02:00 PM
Only the top 51 contracts count against the cap. And all minimum contracts count the same, so we do save $500k on the salary cap from Jordy. It costs us more in real money per your example, however.

Patler
10-28-2015, 02:26 PM
Only the top 51 contracts count against the cap. And all minimum contracts count the same, so we do save $500k on the salary cap from Jordy. It costs us more in real money per your example, however.

That is only during the off season. Once the season starts, all contracts count against the salary cap, including every player who is on the 53 man roster for even one game and all players on IR.

smuggler
10-28-2015, 05:47 PM
Hmm... do you have a source for that?

Patler
10-28-2015, 06:12 PM
Hmm... do you have a source for that?

Yes, I do - the CBA. Do you have a source for your statement?

It has been this way for as long as I can remember. Even practice squad contracts count against the salary cap after the first day of the season.

Patler
10-28-2015, 08:24 PM
Here's a link to the CBA:

https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdfhttp://

Check out page 90 and following.

Here is a summary I found online:


Who falls under the Salary Cap?

Answer: The "Team Salary" falls under the Salary Cap. Team salary includes the amount a team must pay its current or former players under their player contracts. Notice emphasis on the word PLAYERS. The salary cap does not apply to coaches, assistants, trainers, and other personnel. Only the top 51 player salaries for a team count against the salary cap in the offseason. (Outstanding tenders apply.) During the season, all player salaries count toward the salary cap.