Charles Woodson

[Patler]

Amazing career.

Still looking for one more interception return TD, to tie Rod Woodson for most ever at 12. He is now tied with Sharper at 11. Amazingly, 9 of his 11 TD returns were for the Packers. He had at least one every year in GB except 2012, when he played only 7 games. The other two were his first two years in the league.

He has 65 career interceptions, in a tie with Ken Riley for #5 all-time.
The career leaders are:

81 - Paul Krause
79 - Emlen Tunnell
71 - Rod Woodson
68 - Night Train Lane
65 - Ken Riley
65 - Charles Woodson

[mraynrand]

Woodson also can extend his NFL record 12 games without a tackle(safety).

[Patler]

Woodson also can extend his NFL record 12 games without a tackle(safety).

I know it is an attempt at humor, but I don't even get the basis for it. He has 272 tackles in 45 games at safety for Oakland. He had 113 last year, 83 solos; compared to HHCD's 92 total and 65 solos.

[mraynrand]

I know it is an attempt at humor, but I don't even get the basis for it. He has 272 tackles in 45 games at safety for Oakland. He had 113 last year, 83 solos; compared to HHCD's 92 total and 65 solos.

Not just an attempt at humor, it's damn funny humor. Just like this big hat:

http://33.media.tumblr.com/a52736fafd740a3dd7fcdd3054f1d9d4/tumblr_muuwrvpel81rw3gqyo3_250.gif

Watch the games. He really doesn't tackle at all, especially now after repeated shoulder injuries. I'm embellishing only a little. He does not wrap up and bring people to the ground. He doesn't hit. At most he grabs the uniform and swings guys around until help gets there. He gets credit for solo tackles when he escorts someone out of bounds, I presume.

[Patler]

Not many DBs do tackle that well anymore, including a lot of safeties. Woodson is not unique in that regard.

[esoxx]

I'm surprised Chuck still "angry" about how things ended with Green Bay.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/362691891.html

[mraynrand]

Not many DBs do tackle that well anymore, including a lot of safeties. Woodson is not unique in that regard.

OK, I don't agree about safeties - perhaps corners. Still, just watch the guy - he avoids tackles like no other safety that I've watched.

[Patler]

OK, I don't agree about safeties - perhaps corners. Still, just watch the guy - he avoids tackles like no other safety that I've watched.

Wasn't it here that we discussed an article at draft time about safeties tackling? Basically, several GMs and scouts said that with all of the multiple receiver formations, the athletic TEs, etc., that they look for coverage ability over tackling ability in safeties, even if the do generally expect better tackling than from corners (not a high standard to achieve.)

[mraynrand]

Wasn't it here that we discussed an article at draft time about safeties tackling? Basically, several GMs and scouts said that with all of the multiple receiver formations, the athletic TEs, etc., that they look for coverage ability over tackling ability in safeties, even if the do generally expect better tackling than from corners (not a high standard to achieve.)

apples and oranges. I'm not talking about poor tackling skills or ability, I'm talking about avoidance to the point of essentially not tackling. I guess you'll just have to see it to be convinced.

[Patler]

apples and oranges. I'm not talking about poor tackling skills or ability, I'm talking about avoidance to the point of essentially not tackling. I guess you'll just have to see it to be convinced.

I find it hard to believe a guy gets 100 tackles a year by avoiding tackling. Apparently he is not very good at avoiding tackling.

[run pMc]

Will Lacy reel off a big run, face Woodson alone in the open field, and absolutely truck Chuck? Would it be better than Lacy rolling over Blanton?

[Rutnstrut]

apples and oranges. I'm not talking about poor tackling skills or ability, I'm talking about avoidance to the point of essentially not tackling. I guess you'll just have to see it to be convinced.

I don't see it any more with Woodson than any other safety in the NFL. They just don't wrap up and tackle anymore.

[mraynrand]

I don't see it any more with Woodson than any other safety in the NFL. They just don't wrap up and tackle anymore.

how many of the past 12 or so Raiders games have you watched?

Looks a lot different to me.

[Rastak]

I find it hard to believe a guy gets 100 tackles a year by avoiding tackling. Apparently he is not very good at avoiding tackling.


Hmmm, I think Patler got the drop on ya with that one.....

[mraynrand]

So I saw Woodson make two hits - which is two more than he normally makes. And the reason he does't was on display, because h got hurt on the second hit.

[Rutnstrut]

So I saw Woodson make two hits - which is two more than he normally makes. And the reason he does't was on display, because h got hurt on the second hit.

He made a couple big hits, got hurt on one and was back in for the next series. I didn't see anything today that proves your point.

[pbmax]

He made a couple big hits, got hurt on one and was back in for the next series. I didn't see anything today that proves your point.

He tackled Cobb, who is 5' 3" and weighs 135 lbs soaking wet, by diving at his feet to trip him up. Except for Cobb going airborne, which he did himself because he was trying to leap over Wood, it was a classic minimize contact tackle from Wood. He looked like Shields on that one. It was not a big hit.

[mraynrand]

He tackled Cobb, who is 5' 3" and weighs 135 lbs soaking wet, by diving at his feet to trip him up. Except for Cobb going airborne, which he did himself because he was trying to leap over Wood, it was a classic minimize contact tackle from Wood. He looked like Shields on that one. It was not a big hit.

Even the two hits were atypical for him, from the maybe 6-8 games I've seen him play in the past 10-16. My point was that he's as fragile as a wineglass and is avoiding contact. Guy used to tackle like a linebacker.

[pbmax]

Even the two hits were atypical for him, from the maybe 6-8 games I've seen him play in the past 10-16. My point was that he's as fragile as a wineglass and is avoiding contact. Guy used to tackle like a linebacker.

And he should always be given credit for that because I think that history, plus his age, is why he is so fragile now.

[mraynrand]

And he should always be given credit for that because I think that history, plus his age, is why he is so fragile now.

Absolutely. The reason he's still around is that he's an amazing athlete and crafty as hell. Yesterday may have been the last game of consequence he'll play - Raiders were still alive in playoff consideration and he had a chance to meet and show up the old team. I think he gave everything he had left on those two shots. The fumble by Starks almost swung the game. Woodson is a very proud man, and wanted to show something special, just like he did on his last play in SB45.

[Joemailman]

Woodson has announced his retirement effective at the end of the season.

[pbmax]

Good night Chuck.

Rarely had my mind changed about a player this much. Glad to have gotten to know him a little.

[call_me_ishmael]

One of the finest careers ever. Hats off to him. My favorite Packer of all time.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 46m46 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
In conversation Sun., #Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie said Woodson's opening-day shoulder injury should've ended his season. Didn't miss a game.

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 28m28 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Had fantastic conversation with Woodson last Monday night. Interesting to re-read now with news of retirement plans: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/26014/for-charles-woodson-playing-still-the-best-thing-in-the-world-to-be-doing …

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2h2 hours ago
Charles Woodson and Marcus Allen are only players to win Heisman Trophy, AP Rookie of Year, AP Player of Year and Super Bowl during career.

Bruce Feldman ‏@BruceFeldmanCFB 9m9 minutes ago
Charles Woodson won the Heisman in what may be the best finalists group ever: 29 Pro Bowls between CW, Peyton Manning & R. Moss (and Leaf).


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWy-QOVWsAAGII1.jpg:large

[pbmax]

Great article on Wood from Charles Robinson in 2010. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/packers-woodson-finally-reciprocating-love-061500600--nfl.html

See Rand and a family friend make a cameo in paragraphs 2 and 3.