Before everyone gets excited about potential moves this offseason

[RonWolfGOAT]

-we will not sign any FAs (no Calvin Johnson, no Ladarius Green etc)
-we will nit fix the ILB position for the 5th yr in a row
-we will draft some fatties in the early rounds
-we will not fix our lack of speed on offense problem
-we will hear reports out of training camp that "jake ryan is looking more instinctive at ilb" and "backman is making strides." In an effort to make ourselves feel better about not signing FAs at ILB or TE, we will believe these reports
-Masthay, Capers, Van Pelt and Campen will be retained

Such is like when Tightwad is your GM.

11-5, second round playoff exit in 2016-17.

[Joemailman]

Ted Thompson will still have as many Super Bowl wins as Ron Wolf.

[RonWolfGOAT]

Ted Thompson will still have as many Super Bowl wins as Ron Wolf.

And one less appearance

[smuggler]

Bloo hoo! WE DIDN'T WIN SOOPERBOUL!!! OUR TEAM IS HORBIBBBLE!! FIRE ALL! Go the fuck away.

[Freak Out]

Ted Thompson will still have as many Super Bowl wins as Ron Wolf.

Didn't he get one with the Raiders? Maybe he had left for TB....

[Striker]

-we will not sign any FAs (no Calvin Johnson, no Ladarius Green etc)
-we will nit fix the ILB position for the 5th yr in a row
-we will draft some fatties in the early rounds
-we will not fix our lack of speed on offense problem
-we will hear reports out of training camp that "jake ryan is looking more instinctive at ilb" and "backman is making strides." In an effort to make ourselves feel better about not signing FAs at ILB or TE, we will believe these reports
-Masthay, Capers, Van Pelt and Campen will be retained

Such is like when Tightwad is your GM.

11-5, second round playoff exit in 2016-17.

Well, we lost. So of course people like you come out of hiding.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

So I have a slightly different view;

- we sign 1 FA, Im guessing DE to replace peppers, who is gone
- we actually make a draft day trade, either bodies or as a way to move up
- there are coaching changes, including one that is a surprise, but not MM
- eddie lacy is given an ultimatum, or an incentive laden raise based on him getting in better shape
- Masthay is replaced
- we pick up an unknown running back that turns out to be a pleasant surprise
- james jones is gone, montgomery, janis, aberderis and jordy become very solid
- we address ILB, I just have not figured out how yet

[Joemailman]

And one less appearance

Your argument is a fart in the wind.

[George Cumby]

Hey, at least Coldplay is playing at the SB Halftime show.

[denverYooper]

The defense is finally built to the point where it should be formidable for the next 3 years. It won't be a coincidence that the Rodgers Packers will make another few serious runs, ARPH.

A high-end ILB or TE would be nice additions.

I imagine they'll bring in competition for Masthay and he is not a lock at all.

[pbmax]

I think there is a good chance either the TE or ILB happen in the draft. Just out of random chance as much as a plan. Thompson looks for talent and value and one of those will probably hit this year.

I wonder if Barrington and Ryan are viable in the middle? Would love to play Matthews everywhere.

[Smidgeon]

Let's not forget that Barrington returns next year. If we want, we have Ryan and Barrington as ILBs next year and Matthews back outside. Not world burners, but still, not Hawk and Jones either.

[woodbuck27]

Hey, at least Coldplay is playing at the SB Halftime show.

:-|

[woodbuck27]

So I have a slightly different view;

- we sign 1 FA, Im guessing DE to replace peppers, who is gone
- we actually make a draft day trade, either bodies or as a way to move up
- there are coaching changes, including one that is a surprise, but not MM
- eddie lacy is given an ultimatum, or an incentive laden raise based on him getting in better shape
- Masthay is replaced
- we pick up an unknown running back that turns out to be a pleasant surprise
- james jones is gone, montgomery, janis, aberderis and jordy become very solid
- we address ILB, I just have not figured out how yet

Not bad....Repped.

[woodbuck27]

Let's not forget that Barrington returns next year. If we want, we have Ryan and Barrington as ILBs next year and Matthews back outside. Not world burners, but still, not Hawk and Jones either.

Yes so TT can focus his .......'quality options' ........... on other positions where the need is....greater.

PACKERS !

[Maxie the Taxi]

Smidgeon and pbmax, what do you guys think of this idea: Tanner McEvoy at ILB...

CBS had him listed as a FS until a few days ago. I don't know how CBS makes such decisions. They might get player/agent feedback. It might just be an error.

I've watched film of McEvoy at FS and QB. He does cover the field. He also seems to be a hard hitter and fearless. Of course, at QB he showed he is a good runner who can juke defenders at full speed.

Even before CBS re-categorized him, the thought occurred to me that he could help the Packers at TE. Then a wilder idea: could he help the Packers at ILB? McEvoy is 6'6" 231 lbs., a few pounds lighter than Nate Palmer but bigger than Joe Thomas. The trend in the NFL seems to be to have one ILB be a lighter, faster, hard-hitting over-sized safety (6'1" 208 lb. Deone Bucannon with the Cards, 6'3" 223 lb. Telvin Smith with the Jags).

The theory is this type of hybrid ILB can better cover the new breed of fast TE's and pass receiving RB's. I think having a guy who's 6'6", who can make plays sideline to sideline, who is a fearless tackler and who can easily run with a TE or drop back into coverage would present a real problem for opposing offenses.

The best part is you draft him on the 3rd day, not having to use a high draft choice on a traditional ILB. So you team McEvoy with Barrington (or Ryan) at ILB. Clay goes back to OLB.

[mraynrand]

-we will not sign any FAs (no Calvin Johnson, no Ladarius Green etc)
-we will nit fix the ILB position for the 5th yr in a row
-we will draft some fatties in the early rounds
-we will not fix our lack of speed on offense problem
-we will hear reports out of training camp that "jake ryan is looking more instinctive at ilb" and "backman is making strides." In an effort to make ourselves feel better about not signing FAs at ILB or TE, we will believe these reports
-Masthay, Capers, Van Pelt and Campen will be retained

Such is like when Tightwad is your GM.

11-5, second round playoff exit in 2016-17.

Thinking little more about this post, i really appreciate it. Now I can skip the entire season and all the time I waste on posting, anticipation, ticket purchases, etc.

All I ask is that you make a similar post next year so I can save time by avoiding the 2017 season then too. Thanks.

[ThunderDan]

Smidgeon and pbmax, what do you guys think of this idea: Tanner McEvoy at ILB...

No, no, no.

He is too tall and not big enough to play ILB. He would be broken. I watched every Badger game this year. McEvoy's positives are in pass coverage. He is not a great tackler.

He will have a chance to play safety in the NFL but I think even there he may wash out. I think the other position he might get a look at is WR by some teams.

[George Cumby]

He's a Saint, really. Who's the patron saint of time saving efficiency?

[Maxie the Taxi]

No, no, no.

He is too tall and not big enough to play ILB. He would be broken. I watched every Badger game this year. McEvoy's positives are in pass coverage. He is not a great tackler.

He will have a chance to play safety in the NFL but I think even there he may wash out. I think the other position he might get a look at is WR by some teams. What about TE? Any possibilities there?

[ThunderDan]

What about TE? Any possibilities there?

He would need to change his body type. He is too lean. The problem is, would putting the weight on make him lose his speed?

[mraynrand]

He would need to change his body type. He is too lean. The problem is, would putting the weight on make him lose his speed?

Who wants to see a fat greyhound?

http://i.imgur.com/NxDipre.jpg

[mraynrand]

What about TE? Any possibilities there?


He would need to change his body type. He is too lean. The problem is, would putting the weight on make him lose his speed?


We already have the Fat man (Perillo). Don't need another...

[mraynrand]

Who wants to see a fat greyhound?

http://i.imgur.com/NxDipre.jpg

(maybe Guiness)

[Maxie the Taxi]

He would need to change his body type. He is too lean. The problem is, would putting the weight on make him lose his speed?Not necessarily. I wouldn't regard McEvoy as the every down TE, just maybe passing situations mainly. Besides, several of the TE prospects on CBS draft site are McEvoy's size and weight.

[ThunderDan]

Not necessarily. I wouldn't regard McEvoy as the every down TE, just maybe passing situations mainly. Besides, several of the TE prospects on CBS draft site are McEvoy's size and weight.

Height and weight aren't the same as body type.

The only way McEvoy could be a situational TE is of he was a special teams stud. The NFL doesn't have room for guys who can only help in one limited role. This is the problem that James Jones is going to have next year. He could be a #4 or 5 WR behind Nelson, Cobb, Monty and Admas but if he is competing for a spot against Abby and Janis, and they are returning kicks and punts and playing ST, Jones is gone.

[woodbuck27]

-we will not sign any FAs (no Calvin Johnson, no Ladarius Green etc)
-we will nit fix the ILB position for the 5th yr in a row
-we will draft some fatties in the early rounds
-we will not fix our lack of speed on offense problem
-we will hear reports out of training camp that "jake ryan is looking more instinctive at ilb" and "backman is making strides." In an effort to make ourselves feel better about not signing FAs at ILB or TE, we will believe these reports
-Masthay, Capers, Van Pelt and Campen will be retained

Such is like when Tightwad is your GM.

11-5, second round playoff exit in 2016-17.

Your pessimism....

Is it going to impress the membership here in terms of any alteration in their belief system?

I sincerely doubt that will be the case, and all the same:

Is your stance based in certain observation.;...... a decent prediction?

Time will tell us.............................................if that's the case. :huh:

Thanks for your feelings and expressing them here.

I personally and sincerely.....have hope....that you'll enjoy some pleasant surprizes and Green Bay Packers over the course of this long Off Season.

There does exist a certain element of LIFE....... and change and little miracles.

Here's a constant FOR YOU:

GO PACKERS ! GO PACK GO !!

[pbmax]

No, no, no.

He is too tall and not big enough to play ILB. He would be broken. I watched every Badger game this year. McEvoy's positives are in pass coverage. He is not a great tackler.

He will have a chance to play safety in the NFL but I think even there he may wash out. I think the other position he might get a look at is WR by some teams.

Yeah, its a stretch. However, if he ever gets a handle on the contact/tackling part of safety, I would love him to be the hybrid S/ILB that the Cards like to use. But his height might make it tough to fight in the interior.

His best fit is as big receiver to whom you could hand off.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Height and weight aren't the same as body type.

The only way McEvoy could be a situational TE is of he was a special teams stud. The NFL doesn't have room for guys who can only help in one limited role. This is the problem that James Jones is going to have next year. He could be a #4 or 5 WR behind Nelson, Cobb, Monty and Admas but if he is competing for a spot against Abby and Janis, and they are returning kicks and punts and playing ST, Jones is gone.Maybe Jones can play TE?:-)

[Fritz]

I'm not a big Jake Ryan fan - too slow - and Barrington's not too fast, either. I think they really need a good, fast ILB

[woodbuck27]

I'm not a big Jake Ryan fan - too slow - and Barrington's not too fast, either. I think they really need a good, fast ILB

Again............ in another Off Season.

We almost beg for TT to get that Special ILBish prospect we realize clearly here that's a major need for the BEST and a stronger Packer 'D'.

[ThunderDan]

I'm not a big Jake Ryan fan - too slow - and Barrington's not too fast, either. I think they really need a good, fast ILB

And those are usually gone by the Top 15 picks of the draft if not Top 10.

[Rutnstrut]

With TT at the helm, the offseason is the hardest time to be a Packer fan.

[mission]

I want Ragland from Bama in GnG next year.

[Bossman641]

With TT at the helm, the offseason is the hardest time to be a Packer fan.

I'll agree with that. Even knowing what's coming (or more specifically what's not coming), it's a tough time.

[Guiness]

(maybe Guiness)

That's a whippet!

[woodbuck27]

That's a whippet!

Brings to mind this Classic:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo

HAPPY NEW YEAR Guiness !

GO PACKERS !

[mraynrand]

That's a whippet!

shows what happens when you gain a lot of weight. Only the experts can recognize your corpse. Hear that, Eddie?

[Pugger]

-we will not sign any FAs (no Calvin Johnson, no Ladarius Green etc)
-we will nit fix the ILB position for the 5th yr in a row
-we will draft some fatties in the early rounds
-we will not fix our lack of speed on offense problem
-we will hear reports out of training camp that "jake ryan is looking more instinctive at ilb" and "backman is making strides." In an effort to make ourselves feel better about not signing FAs at ILB or TE, we will believe these reports
-Masthay, Capers, Van Pelt and Campen will be retained

Such is like when Tightwad is your GM.

11-5, second round playoff exit in 2016-17.

You seem pretty certain Ted will ignore the ILB position. Last year he addressed the secondary because he suspected Tramon and House were gonna be gone. What is wrong with taking fatties early? Good ones don't grow on trees. You may not have been here but people were calling for Ted to draft an O tackle for weeks now. With how Tretter played tackle might not be the pressing need now. FA is vastly different today than it was when Wolf was running the show. These changes were the main reason why he retired.

[Pugger]

Smidgeon and pbmax, what do you guys think of this idea: Tanner McEvoy at ILB...

Or how about him at TE?

[Pugger]

Height and weight aren't the same as body type.

The only way McEvoy could be a situational TE is of he was a special teams stud. The NFL doesn't have room for guys who can only help in one limited role. This is the problem that James Jones is going to have next year. He could be a #4 or 5 WR behind Nelson, Cobb, Monty and Admas but if he is competing for a spot against Abby and Janis, and they are returning kicks and punts and playing ST, Jones is gone.

But he might not be a bad kid to bring in as an UDFA for a look-see. I don't know if he'll be drafted.

[Pugger]

And those are usually gone by the Top 15 picks of the draft if not Top 10.

This is the rub with having the success we have. It makes finding gems that much harder in the draft and if you look at it that way Ted has a knack for finding kids like this. Not many here were overly thrilled with the Randall pick but we seem to love his potential now.

[Joemailman]

But he might not be a bad kid to bring in as an UDFA for a look-see. I don't know if he'll be drafted.

It will be interesting to see how McEvoy does at the Combine. He'll probably run a fast 40, but I wonder how he'll do in the agility drills with those long legs.