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Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 04:05 PM
It's the Carolina Panthers (17-1) vs the Denver Broncos (14-4)

Carolina is favored by 6 pts and the over/under is 45.5 pts

Money line is Car +255 and Denver -215

So who's gonna win and what's the score gonna be?

I'm going Den 27-24 with a dramatic, late FG to win.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 04:11 PM
So betting the over and taking the (significant) underdog on the money line. If you're comfortable with those picks, you can make a pile of money today!

My primary focus' are all taken care of: wing, nachos and jalepeno poppers ready to go, beer chilling in the garage. Everything else is gravy.

Joemailman
02-07-2016, 04:20 PM
Carolina 24
Denver 20

I think Cam can escape Denver pressure better than Peyton can escape Carolina pressure.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 05:09 PM
Wow are they really trotting out every super bowl mvp?

pbmax
02-07-2016, 05:26 PM
Wow are they really trotting out every super bowl mvp?

If Brady doesn't show, Patriots fans will riot in celebration of showing up Roger.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 05:41 PM
We are getting close. Just slightly before my time heroes (Nicklaus and Richard Petty) are officially bland, general sports nostalgia. I might as well eat the Early Bird Special.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 05:56 PM
Cam is a little excited hence overthrow. By the twitch in his shoulder, he seemed to triple clutch that. Broncos great plan on O first drive, but didn't deliver a TD.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:02 PM
That's a catch.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:05 PM
Denver looking good on both O and D on their first possession.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:06 PM
That's a catch.

No it wasn't.

edit: yup

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:07 PM
Still think it was a catch. His hand was under it in control when the nose touched the ground before he rolled over.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:07 PM
And that is how the Broncos will win this game.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:08 PM
Refs gave that TD to Denver by missing the catch.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 06:08 PM
Well didnt take for the refs to blow a big call.

Joemailman
02-07-2016, 06:09 PM
What a turnaround. Still don't know how that wasn't ruled a catch.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:09 PM
Let's see that Cam Newton dance.......chump.

Freak Out
02-07-2016, 06:10 PM
Denver D showing up. Will Cam melt under the pressure and start pouting again?

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:10 PM
What a turnaround. Still don't know how that wasn't ruled a catch.


Agree.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:11 PM
Wow are they really trotting out every super bowl mvp?


Wow are they really trotting out every super bowl mvp?

Add a new thing that the NFL does to piss me off: kick-off time, is, you know, kick-off time. Not the national anthem time. Not the coin toss time. It's kick-off time.

Pro-Bowl was the worst. I wanted to catch the first bit of it, kick-off was fully half an hour after the announced time.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 06:11 PM
So the fix is in. The NFL wants Melon head Manning to ride off into the sunset with a SB win.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:12 PM
Down goes Frazier!

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:13 PM
This is the Broncos opportunity. Need to get up three scores.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:14 PM
So much for the conspiracy theory.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 06:14 PM
Imagine that, the thug with taunting.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:14 PM
Wow, don't refs to affect the game but have.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:14 PM
21? Talib?

yup. He was ok until he took his stupid helmet off.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:15 PM
21? Talib?

yup. He was ok until he took his stupid helmet off.

He's a moron.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:15 PM
Another Super Bowl where I want neither team to win.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:15 PM
What a turnaround. Still don't know how that wasn't ruled a catch.

I have no idea if this is what is intended, but I bet the explanation is that he never had control prior to the nose touching the ground, regardless of his hand under it.

Without control prior, the Bert Emanuel rules doesn't apply.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:16 PM
Pass interference.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:16 PM
DPI?

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:17 PM
If Stewart stays out I really believe the Panthers have very little hope. Fozzy is not going to cut it, nice run for a first down not withstanding.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:17 PM
I have no idea if this is what is intended, but I bet the explanation is that he never had control prior to the nose touching the ground, regardless of his hand under it.

Without control prior, the Bert Emanuel rules doesn't apply.

But the other angle showed the ball didn't touch the ground. His hand was underneath the ball.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 06:18 PM
21? Talib?

yup. He was ok until he took his stupid helmet off.

My prob with that is that he was on the sidelines already. Can take hours helmet off there

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:18 PM
DPI?

Yup, he grabbed and turned the TE.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:18 PM
If Stewart stays out I really believe the Panthers have very little hope. Fozzy is not going to cut it, nice run for a first down not withstanding.


Newton isn't all that great under pressure. Not sure Denver can keep it up but they are a solid assed defense.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 06:18 PM
Bang bang play but the db definitely hooked and began to spin cotchery around before the ball got there. Should have been dpi

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:19 PM
But the other angle showed the ball didn't touch the ground. His hand was underneath the ball.

Before he rolled over, it was under him. Had to see from sideline. Its as he is going down at first.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:19 PM
My prob with that is that he was on the sidelines already. Can take hours helmet off there Re-watch it. I'm pretty sure his feet were in the field of play. Either way, only dummies don't STFU.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:19 PM
If Stewart stays out I really believe the Panthers have very little hope. Fozzy is not going to cut it, nice run for a first down not withstanding.

Agree. Denver can bottle a one dimensional attack, even Cam.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:20 PM
Good to see Denver's offense starting to play like we expect.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:21 PM
Everyone runs Capers A gap blitz now.

Even though Denver isn't a run option threat, its became a favorite versus option teams.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:22 PM
Newton wanted to pull that back and run. But then big throw.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:24 PM
Before he rolled over, it was under him. Had to see from sideline. Its as he is going down at first.

They should the angle from the far end zone and the ball never touched the ground. His hand was under it then the ball started to move but the ball never touched the ground.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:27 PM
Cam if you slide feet first you are down.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:27 PM
They should the angle from the far end zone and the ball never touched the ground. His hand was under it then the ball started to move but the ball never touched the ground.

Before that. Its partially hidden. But if you need undisputed proof, you can talk yourself into the nose of the football touching.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:28 PM
How is that not a penalty of some kind? Panthers official pops the Denver player one.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:30 PM
Manning can't win this game, so Denver's defense better hope for a stop.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 06:30 PM
How is that not a penalty of some kind? Panthers official pops the Denver player one.

No kidding

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:30 PM
Might be one of the few times a facemask makes sense.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:31 PM
Before that. Its partially hidden. But if you need undisputed proof, you can talk yourself into the nose of the football touching.

No, hand was under ball. Ball moves but didn't touch the ground so it doesn't matter.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:31 PM
No, hand was under ball. Ball moves but didn't touch the ground so it doesn't matter.

Refs blew the call, get over it.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 06:31 PM
Great leap by Stewart

Joemailman
02-07-2016, 06:32 PM
If Goodell had his way, Talib would be out of the game.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:34 PM
No, hand was under ball. Ball moves but didn't touch the ground so it doesn't matter.

I see PB's point. I would have called it a catch.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:35 PM
If Goodell had his way, Talib would be out of the game.

It would probably be a plus for Denver the way he is playing.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:37 PM
Might be one of the few times a facemask makes sense.

Maybe, get him down now but it's dangerous. I actually like the idea the league is floating now that would have a more definite way of ejecting players from a game. A yellow card/red card type of idea would have Talib out right now.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:37 PM
Maybe the refs can get another challenge wrong sine they blew the first one.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:38 PM
Carolina out of challenges for the rest of the game.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 06:38 PM
Well if those goes as shitty as the last challenge, we will know for sure the fix is in.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:40 PM
Maybe the refs can get another challenge wrong sine they blew the first one.


How does that work? He wasn;t down yet and the guy brushed up against him while not making a tackle. Manning slipped. Guess I don't know how that rule works.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 06:41 PM
This is what the nfl has to change. Guys like talib, burfict, obj....2 or 3 personal fouls/unsportsmanlike in a game your ejected. And they should review targeting and certain pfs and eject players for being a goon.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:42 PM
Old noodle arm is lucky if he can get the ball 10 yards down the field.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:42 PM
Now that is how you lay the wood legally.

SMBASS
02-07-2016, 06:45 PM
Another Super Bowl where I want neither team to win.

Couldn't agree more Dan. Can't stand either one of these teams.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 06:45 PM
Trick play pass to cam no worky

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 06:48 PM
What a blunder by Car on the punt

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:48 PM
Get that first Denver.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:51 PM
Shut up Simms you moron. Denver will NOT go for it on fourth in this situation.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:51 PM
Shut up Simms you moron. Denver will NOT go for it on fourth in this situation.


:^)

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:51 PM
Denver's offense is putrid.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 06:54 PM
Shut up Simms you moron. Denver will NOT go for it on fourth in this situation.

Fail.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:56 PM
Fail.

Well.... they did get a field goal.:glug:

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:56 PM
that flag better not be what I think it is

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:56 PM
Man that was harder than it should be.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cap0rpYWcAA9qkO.jpg:large

If he doesn't have control before this small sequence, then gets hand under ball, rolls forward, ball hits ground and comes loose again, then I can see the refs saying that even if his hand was under the ball and under his control, the Bert Emanuel doesn't apply.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 06:57 PM
Every lucky play is going Denver's way.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:58 PM
Denver's offense is putrid.


And their defense is sterling.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 06:58 PM
This is what the nfl has to change. Guys like talib, burfict, obj....2 or 3 personal fouls/unsportsmanlike in a game your ejected. And they should review targeting and certain pfs and eject players for being a goon.

I agree on dead ball fouls. But you cannot eject on two facemark penalties.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 06:59 PM
that flag better not be what I think it is

JHC, it was. Was that a legal hit or not? As soon as I saw it I knew the refs would throw a flag because it was a hard hit on a QB, even though he was a runner.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:59 PM
Every lucky play is going Denver's way.

Works for me.....:glug:

esoxx
02-07-2016, 06:59 PM
How does that work? He wasn;t down yet and the guy brushed up against him while not making a tackle. Manning slipped. Guess I don't know how that rule works.

Any contact, even incidental, player is considered down.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 06:59 PM
I agree on dead ball fouls. But you cannot eject on two facemark penalties.

I'd boot them for two celebration penalties, but that's me......:-)

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 06:59 PM
But ball isn't touching the ground in that photo.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:01 PM
Any contact, even incidental, player is considered down.

Assuming he's heading towards the ground which it looked like, so I guess that makes sense Esoxx.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 07:01 PM
That was a fantastic run by Anderson

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 07:02 PM
Blatant hold right at the ball carrier on kuechly. Denver getting very favorable officiating.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:02 PM
But ball isn't touching the ground in that photo.

I think it might be. On the DVR, it looks like it moves and twists, but he also comes into contact with defender.

Not saying its indisputable. But I do think the ref, having an incompletion called on field, can see enough doubt to let call stand.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 07:03 PM
The Manning I know and love shows up.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:03 PM
What a pick!

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:04 PM
Blatant hold right at the ball carrier on kuechly. Denver getting very favorable officiating.


Man, let's concentrate on the plays, not the million non-calls you see in every game.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:04 PM
I'd boot them for two celebration penalties, but that's me......:-)

I would let good performers go (Chad Ochocinco, Billy Whiteshoes Johnson, Golden Richards, TO) and punish bad performers (Joe Cellphone Horn, Jared Allen).

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:07 PM
I would let good performers go (Chad Ochocinco, Billy Whiteshoes Johnson, Golden Richards, TO) and punish bad performers (Joe Cellphone Horn, Jared Allen).


They would all go from White Shoes to Gastineau to Newton.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 07:07 PM
JHC, it was. Was that a legal hit or not? As soon as I saw it I knew the refs would throw a flag because it was a hard hit on a QB, even though he was a runner.

Anyone else have thoughts on this? It did not look to me like he was down, even in the replay. Certainly forward progress was not stopped. It was a good, solid hit on a QB that will take on tacklers so defenders can't back off assuming he will slide

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:08 PM
Anyone else have thoughts on this? It did not look to me like he was down, even in the replay. Certainly forward progress was not stopped. It was a good, solid hit on a QB that will take on tacklers so defenders can't back off assuming he will slide


I missed the replay.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:09 PM
Anyone else have thoughts on this? It did not look to me like he was down, even in the replay. Certainly forward progress was not stopped. It was a good, solid hit on a QB that will take on tacklers so defenders can't back off assuming he will slide

I am still not sure why they threw the flag on that play.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:13 PM
Should have kept it inside Cam.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:14 PM
Seems like they are letting them play on both sides.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 07:15 PM
Man, let's concentrate on the plays, not the million non-calls you see in every game.

I'd love too. There haven',t been many. The shotty officiating has been a distraction

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:17 PM
Awesome two minute drill.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 07:18 PM
Clock management?

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:18 PM
Carolina a little slow on the O. Costing chance at TD.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:19 PM
Clock management?

As Charles Barkley would say...."Turrible"

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:19 PM
Anyone else have thoughts on this? It did not look to me like he was down, even in the replay. Certainly forward progress was not stopped. It was a good, solid hit on a QB that will take on tacklers so defenders can't back off assuming he will slide

I never even saw the replay.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:20 PM
Should be a good second half.....pretty damn close game.

esoxx
02-07-2016, 07:20 PM
Assuming he's heading towards the ground which it looked like, so I guess that makes sense Esoxx.

Yup, assuming he's headed towards ground or stumbling.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:21 PM
That was a 1 hour and 40 minutes half.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 07:23 PM
Cam needs to be more Superman, less Clark Kent. A decidedly poor performance from him

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:24 PM
Cam needs to be more Superman, less Clark Kent. A decidedly poor performance from him

He isn't the greatest under pressure. Manning is shot so it's Newton vs Denver defense and the rules favor offense so we'll see.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 07:25 PM
Anyone else have thoughts on this? It did not look to me like he was down, even in the replay. Certainly forward progress was not stopped. It was a good, solid hit on a QB that will take on tacklers so defenders can't back off assuming he will slide

The call wad not on the hit on the QB. they called it on 97, and he wasn't in on the tackle. I think it was after they thought it was a fumble he hit someone.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 07:27 PM
Man that was harder than it should be.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cap0rpYWcAA9qkO.jpg:large

If he doesn't have control before this small sequence, then gets hand under ball, rolls forward, ball hits ground and comes loose again, then I can see the refs saying that even if his hand was under the ball and under his control, the Bert Emanuel doesn't apply.

I just never saw an angle where the ground jostled or loosened the ball.

Bossman641
02-07-2016, 07:29 PM
This game is boring. I'm all for good defense but there have been a lot of blown chances

Guiness
02-07-2016, 07:33 PM
My beer to carry me through halftime
http://i.imgur.com/kEQ7etZ.jpg

esoxx
02-07-2016, 07:34 PM
This game is boring. I'm all for good defense but there have been a lot of blown chances

The game is a blast compared to this coldplay halftime show. Get the hell off the field.

Striker
02-07-2016, 07:34 PM
This game is boring. I'm all for good defense but there have been a lot of blown chances

The halftime show is keeping the boredom train going.

Joemailman
02-07-2016, 07:34 PM
This game is boring. I'm all for good defense but there have been a lot of blown chances

I haven't approached a Super Bowl with this little interest since the Colts/Bears. Unfortunately so far, the game has lived up to my expectations.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:35 PM
The female members of my extended family are finally watching the TV.

Striker
02-07-2016, 07:37 PM
Bruno Mars or Beyonce should have been the headliner.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:37 PM
The female members of my extended family are finally watching the TV.

Yep.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:41 PM
Speaking of the game, Denver has 3 personal fouls on defense. Rough game or are refs worried about losing control?

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:47 PM
The game is a blast compared to this coldplay halftime show. Get the hell off the field.

Wife really likes Bruno Mars and Beyonce so she was stoked.

I would have preferred Black Sabbath or something....I think they are on the last tour......but that's literally probably just me......:-)

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:50 PM
2 hours and 15 minutes and the 2nd half hasn't kicked.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:51 PM
2 hours and 15 minutes and the 2nd half hasn't kicked.


Super Bowl is a 5 hour game.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 07:51 PM
WTF was that? Scientology???

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:53 PM
Runs out of bounds.....what is with todays kids......

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:53 PM
Don't run out of bounds.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 07:54 PM
Short of the line.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:54 PM
Why did Ginn run OOB?

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 07:56 PM
Why did Ginn run OOB?

Left 7 yards on the field.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:57 PM
No one is going to forgive Denver's defense if they lose to Ted Ginn.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:57 PM
Bad read Cam.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 07:59 PM
Cotchery should have had that. Von Miller in coverage was impressive but he was open and it was a good throw.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:00 PM
Missed it. :whaa:

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:00 PM
Wow, Denver is getting all of the breaks.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:00 PM
How many rules will Roger try to change if this game is FGs rest of the way?

Can you say 20-19?

That was on Gano. Ball placement was good and laces were away.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 08:01 PM
Nice replay on the flag they picked up cbs.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:03 PM
Good lord how many times did teams run that Sanders route versus Packes D?

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:04 PM
Nice replay on the flag they picked up cbs.

Yeah, their production is pretty shaky.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 08:05 PM
So they call offsides on the D now, but not on that last FG?

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 08:07 PM
Missed Thomas for 6

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 08:07 PM
Missed it. :whaa:

Crosby would have made it

Joemailman
02-07-2016, 08:09 PM
Why did Ginn run OOB?

The field was wide open if he's able to cut back against the grain. Wish Larry Fitzgerald had run out of bounds.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:10 PM
Crosby would have made it


Walsh would have missed.....:x

smuggler
02-07-2016, 08:10 PM
Dumbass Panthers wasted their final challenge on 7 yards.

esoxx
02-07-2016, 08:10 PM
Yeah, their production is pretty shaky.

And Phil Simms is hard to listen to with that drawl.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:11 PM
Mrs. Rodgers!

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 08:12 PM
Dumbass Panthers wasted their final challenge on 7 yards.

The way this game is being called they could have had 10 challenges and used them all by now.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:13 PM
Denver had that covered.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:13 PM
Microphone punctured lung!

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:14 PM
God Ginn is a pussy.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:14 PM
That is the kind of play you need from Ginn.

Panthers is danger of needing to come from behind with limited drives left versus this D.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:15 PM
Richardson looks so happy.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:16 PM
Crazy play. Newton fucked up.

Freak Out
02-07-2016, 08:16 PM
Ugly stuff.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:17 PM
Receivers have to hold on to that. Two drops inside red zone. One turnover.

And another lucky Denver fumble recovery.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 08:18 PM
The panthers owner always has a look on his face like he just ate a mouthful of shit. You would think being filthy rich and successful, he would smile once in awhile.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:19 PM
Nice ruck.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:19 PM
Crazy play. Newton fucked up.

What?

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:19 PM
Broken arm ILB not good against run.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:20 PM
The panthers owner always has a look on his face like he just ate a mouthful of shit. You would think being filthy rich and successful, he would smile once in awhile.


Must have a nagging wife, you could have a trillion dollars and that would bring it down.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:21 PM
This game is 7-9 without errors by Carolina offense. They get field position win again. But then 53 yard punt.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:21 PM
Ginn is gonna pull a hammy trying to run out of bounds as fast as possible.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 08:22 PM
Must have a nagging wife, you could have a trillion dollars and that would bring it down.

Yup, and it's cheaper to keep her. But rich guys can afford to keep a side chick or 3 so he should still be happy.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:23 PM
This game is 7-9 without errors by Carolina offense. They get field position win again. But then 53 yard punt.

Erase the punt return and it is 7-6 a real barn burner.

Striker
02-07-2016, 08:24 PM
Defense wins championships?

Shitty QB play loses championships?

Eh?

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:25 PM
Erase the punt return and it is 7-6 a real barn burner.

Mike Shula is losing his HC gigs.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:25 PM
Lose WRs and offense stalls. Where have I seen this before?

But Ginn first down.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:28 PM
Ware and Miller are more than one thing Phil.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 08:29 PM
Von Miller is just a monster.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 08:30 PM
This may have been a very different game had the Panthers been given that catch in the 1st quarter. They really got hosed on that one.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:30 PM
Someone predicted catastrophe for Carolina if they had 3 TOs. :lol:

I think it was wist.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:33 PM
This may have been a very different game had the Panthers been given that catch in the 1st quarter. They really got hosed on that one.

Yup, huge difference.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:34 PM
Phil and Jim are not up to the task of making this exciting. Mostly its Phil, but Jim barely helps.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:34 PM
That's why you don't allow the celebration bullshit.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 08:35 PM
just realized (ok, actually gf did)...no omaha?

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:36 PM
Fumble luck has had a huge effect. If Denver gets this back its twice it left the Panthers hands.

but Panthers get the second chance.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 08:36 PM
Manning is pissing down his leg for his last game.

Teamcheez1
02-07-2016, 08:37 PM
Manning has to be the worst QB I have seen in a SB since Trent Dilfer.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:37 PM
Is this game for real? O sucking it up.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:38 PM
Manning is pissing down his leg for his last game.


Newton's numbers ain't much better.....



edit: and he ain't super old and shot.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:40 PM
Can I vote no one for MVP? Maybe the Den kicker?

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:40 PM
Players don't trust the field. They are making terrible reads on run holes because they are afraid to cut.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:40 PM
Can I vote no one for no one for MVP? Maybe the Den kicker?

Ealy, win or lose.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:42 PM
Can't let Broncos win. Same cheaters own the team as in 97.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:43 PM
DPI for about 10 yards.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:43 PM
DPI should have been called.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:43 PM
Can't let Broncos win. Same cheaters own the team as in 97.


Kick 'em in the nuts Denver......

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:49 PM
Norman celebrates like they are winning......

Joemailman
02-07-2016, 08:50 PM
just realized (ok, actually gf did)...no omaha?

Heard Omaha!

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:50 PM
This game keeps looking like I predicted when Denver has the ball.

But it keeps going wrong with the Panthers O on the field.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 08:51 PM
swung by reddit to see what they're saying. Found this, beer prices at the game.
http://i.imgur.com/QtRfaTY.jpg

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:51 PM
This game keeps looking like I predicted when Denver has the ball.

But it keeps going wrong with the Panthers O on the field.


Looks like I expected on both sides.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:51 PM
Phil doesn't even get Nantz's mild jokes. He might be the dimmest broadcaster. Makes Aikman look like a mensa candidate.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:53 PM
Looks like I expected on both sides.

Me too. Just didn't expect all the breaks to go Denvers way.

Freak Out
02-07-2016, 08:53 PM
lol.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:53 PM
He is 6' 5" and throws with a low release point.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 08:54 PM
Heard Omaha!

Caught it too!

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:56 PM
Carolina has the momentum.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 08:57 PM
Carolina has the momentum.

Disagree. They can't get out of their own way

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 08:57 PM
Carolina has the momentum.

They can't get a first. Not sure what momentum they have.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:58 PM
What is this, the white flag by Denver?

pbmax
02-07-2016, 08:58 PM
Carolina has the momentum.

Not on offense.

Here is the Kubiak 4 minute offense.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 08:58 PM
Denver going to rely on their D to close it out. Giving the ball back to the Panthers with time on the clock, and leading by less than a TD.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 08:58 PM
They can't get a first. Not sure what momentum they have.

I do get that, but Denver's offense looks like they gave up.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:00 PM
Yea, maybe nobody has momentum.

edit: That's momentum!

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:00 PM
Cam just bailed on that throw.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 09:00 PM
That was a BIG incompletion.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 09:01 PM
Game over. Turnover

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:01 PM
Game over!

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:01 PM
Newton just watched the ball on the deck and didn't go after it.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 09:01 PM
Von Miller. MVP.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:01 PM
Den kicker for MVP.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:02 PM
Von Miller. MVP.

Too early but yes, he's the man.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 09:02 PM
Newton just watched the ball on the deck and didn't go after it.

Stage is too big for him.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:03 PM
Stage is too big for him.


Was planning his next dance.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 09:03 PM
Officials for MVP for giving the calls to Denver. Not that Carolina has done much of anything to win.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:04 PM
Not catchable.


edit: that makes more sense.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 09:04 PM
That was Yuge!

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:04 PM
That was legs getting tangled.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:04 PM
Stage is too big for him.

Pretty sure that was self preservation.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:05 PM
Nope, that was a hold.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:05 PM
That was legs getting tangled.


Holding with his legs?


edit: nevermind.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 09:05 PM
That should tell you right there that this game is fixed. They have let Denver get away with holding on defense all night.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Phil that was not some run. It was 1 dang yard.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Pretty sure that was self preservation.

It was a chicken shit move. The game was decided right there

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:06 PM
I am going to hate the coverage this week.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Lol holy shit. MVP von miller. Mvp should be the refs....
Edit ok they called holding correctly..still the refs have been terrible.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:06 PM
That should tell you right there that this game is fixed. They have let Denver get away with holding on defense all night.


Bullshit. Miss Newton isn't as good as advertised.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:07 PM
Touch down.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 09:07 PM
Better for the panthers if the td stands.

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:08 PM
It was a chicken shit move. The game was decided right there

Or on the non-catch in the 1st quarter.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 09:08 PM
Fuck, NFLN is basically the only channel I watch. Now it will be the Peyton Manning network for a few months. I guess I'll get more work done out in the shop.

Bossman641
02-07-2016, 09:09 PM
Somebody send mcginn his article about how great cam is

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:10 PM
Noah Becker ‏@Noah_Becker
Wonder if the left shoulder injury we've all seen Cam deal with all night impacted his willingness to dive into a pile.

Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 2m2 minutes ago
Wonder this too - the guy runs QB power and slams into defenders all the time, so not a toughness thing. But I dunno

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:10 PM
Keep your stupid mouth shut Talib.

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 09:11 PM
Somebody send mcginn his article about how great cam is

Wait, when Rodgers and the Packers looked like shit against Denver everyone here was saying it was because Denver's defense was so good. But Cam and the Panthers don't get that same excuse?

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:12 PM
Whaaaaaaaaa, I want 15 yards, waaaaaaaaaa

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 09:13 PM
You cant punt there

Rutnstrut
02-07-2016, 09:13 PM
Any other QB that would have been roughing the passer, but yeah this game isn't fixed.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:13 PM
You gotta have weapons to beat this D. Panthers ran out of them.

Cheesehead Craig
02-07-2016, 09:13 PM
Was not roughing Phil. Not even close

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:14 PM
Jonah Keri ‏@jonahkeri 3m3 minutes ago San Francisco, CA
Peyton Manning accepting the championship trophy, then announcing he juiced his whole career would be the greatest moment in sports history.

SMBASS
02-07-2016, 09:15 PM
Have to say that I've enjoyed watching Scam get his ass kicked this game.

Guiness
02-07-2016, 09:15 PM
Wait, when Rodgers and the Packers looked like shit against Denver everyone here was saying it was because Denver's defense was so good. But Cam and the Panthers don't get that same excuse?

Do you pay attention to anything besides the voices in your head? Most here have been saying all game how good the Denver defense is.

yetisnowman
02-07-2016, 09:15 PM
Whaaaaaaaaa, I want 15 yards, waaaaaaaaaa

Ok. So you have made your agenda clear.

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:15 PM
"Is this it for Peyton?"


Duh......

ThunderDan
02-07-2016, 09:16 PM
How does punting help your team there?

Rastak
02-07-2016, 09:16 PM
Ok. So you have made your agenda clear.


When he quits acting the fool I may change my opinion.

Bossman641
02-07-2016, 09:16 PM
Wait, when Rodgers and the Packers looked like shit against Denver everyone here was saying it was because Denver's defense was so good. But Cam and the Panthers don't get that same excuse?

Sure, they do. But mcginns article was dumb as shit. There was absolutely no reason to write it except as click bait

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:16 PM
Have to say that I've enjoyed watching Scam get his ass kicked this game.

He's going to be back.

pbmax
02-07-2016, 09:17 PM
Aaron Schatz ‏@FO_ASchatz 1m1 minute ago
Only years in DVOA where best D was stronger than best O, since 1989: 2015 DEN, 2008 PIT, 1991 PHI, and 1990 PIT.