Cotchery's Super Bowl Non-Catch

[pbmax]

Here is a high-def replay from the angle that shows the nose of the ball hitting the ground and squirting up. Kinda like Dez Bryant's non-catch versus the Packers.

https://www.clippituser.tv/c/qmyaz

I think its arguable that the clip is undisputed evidence of a non catch. But it doesn't have to rise to that standard. Call on field was incomplete and this tends to support that call. At a minimum, it doesn't provide enough to overturn.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Friend of mine on FB claimed that the game was tainted because of that call and thus it's an asterisk SB win for Denver. I tried calling him out on it, but he's just a friggin' drama queen and won't accept logic. Plus, he's a Cam fan and doesn't like Denver. So there's that...

[Striker]

My friend who is a Panthers fan is SUPER salty about the refs....saying this play caused Cam to go on "tilt".

Yes. Because the constant pressure had zero to do with that.

[Teamcheez1]

Just watched the clip. I saw Cotchery with his hand under the ball. The ball can move and still be a catch.

[pbmax]

Just watched the clip. I saw Cotchery with his hand under the ball. The ball can move and still be a catch.

The hand under the ball is not magical and its not a catch all or end all. His hand is under the ball just before contact (a great effort BTW).

Then the nose of the ball hits the ground (I would not bet the farm, but pretty sure) and moves. If you use the Bert Emanuel rule, that the ball can move in contact with the ground as long as you maintain control, then the fact that it squirts loose ends the argument. Pretty sure its similar to Dez Bryant's effort in Lambeau.

[mraynrand]

The refs actually made the correct call. They made a best guess on the field and because they couldn't see it clearly in replay, they said" the ruling on the field stands" which is the correct call, because they couldn't confirm the call. Former bad ref/Bears fan/CBS shill got it wrong during the broadcast.

[mraynrand]

BTW, Crotchery did everything he could to drop everything thrown to him.

[pbmax]

BTW, Crotchery did everything he could to drop everything thrown to him.

Yeah, its fitting that his best effort was on an incomplete pass.

Remember when no one could believe the Panthers lost Benjamin for the season and then cut Boykin and another vet on the last roster cutdown? Their season eventually came down to having no viable option at WR except Ted Ginn. Corey Brown and another WR got banged up in this game.

[mraynrand]

Yeah, its fitting that his best effort was on an incomplete pass.

Remember when no one could believe the Panthers lost Benjamin for the season and then cut Boykin and another vet on the last roster cutdown? Their season eventually came down to having no viable option at WR except Ted Ginn. Corey Brown and another WR got banged up in this game.

Maybe Funchess is as dumb as a post (or Jeff Janis), but with his talent, he should have been much more of a factor at the end of the season. Part of his lack of progress must be due to Carolina not facing anything like that Denver defense before the Superbowl, and not having any pressing need to bring him along.

But Carolina flamed out on offense because they had nothing to counter the Denver defense. In their defense (ha ha), it's just that good.

[pbmax]

Its not a good development to have your best talent outplayed by Ginn, I agree.

Analytical football Twitter is surprised that the Panthers seemed to shed half their playbook in preparation for this game. They really did not mix it up much especially in the run game or in running Cam (QB draws or rollouts). They had to have a plan for that man coverage and heavy pressure.

[mraynrand]

They really did not mix it up much especially in the run game or in running Cam (QB draws or rollouts).

That's what I was saying to people watching with me - why is Cam so uninvolved?

Every town he plays in next year should line their locker room walls and tunnels with big posters of Aqib Talib.

[Rutnstrut]

Funny because had the Packers been playing and this was a GB receiver all this "objectivity" on here would be gone. It was a catch plain and simple, but that didn't fit into the storyline the NFL had planned for Mannings last game.

[Joemailman]

Funny because had the Packers been playing and this was a GB receiver all this "objectivity" on here would be gone. It was a catch plain and simple, but that didn't fit into the storyline the NFL had planned for Mannings last game.

And they knew that if they called it incomplete that Cam would be stripped of the ball on the next play and the Broncos would recover the ball in the end zone for a TD. And Cam was in on the conspiracy when he failed to make a real attempt to recover another fumble. And those 2 Panthers who had the punt returner dead to rights but let him escape for the longest punt return in Super Bowl history? And Kubiak deciding to punt with 2:08 left in the game down by 2 scores? Don't get me started...

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/sports/football/jerricho-cotchery-darian-stewart.html?_r=0

Clearly...that was a catch.

[Patler]

And they knew that if they called it incomplete that Cam would be stripped of the ball on the next play and the Broncos would recover the ball in the end zone for a TD. And Cam was in on the conspiracy when he failed to make a real attempt to recover another fumble. And those 2 Panthers who had the punt returner dead to rights but let him escape for the longest punt return in Super Bowl history? And Kubiak deciding to punt with 2:08 left in the game down by 2 scores? Don't get me started...

They did, because all of the players had carefully read their scripts and knew their parts well. Why do you think they give them two weeks to prepare for the Super Bowl? Lots of studying and memorizing needed to learn their parts!

[Patler]

With all their talk about maintaining control all the way through going to the ground, I don't see how they could call that a catch. It went from between his hands, to on his arm to pinched between his elbow and his body. During the transition from place to place it was on the ground. Not a surprising call.

[Bossman641]

Funny because had the Packers been playing and this was a GB receiver all this "objectivity" on here would be gone. It was a catch plain and simple, but that didn't fit into the storyline the NFL had planned for Mannings last game.

I can't believe the NFL didn't plan for Manning to play any better. An INT and 2 fumbles (1 lost)? Not exactly an award-winning script.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I can't believe the NFL didn't plan for Manning to play any better. An INT and 2 fumbles (1 lost)? Not exactly an award-winning script.

At least he could have dove in a helicoptor-spinning TD

[Patler]

At least he could have dove in a helicoptor-spinning TD

They took it out of the script, a last minut rewrite.. Just too risky for a guy with so many neck surgeries.

[ThunderDan]

With all their talk about maintaining control all the way through going to the ground, I don't see how they could call that a catch. It went from between his hands, to on his arm to pinched between his elbow and his body. During the transition from place to place it was on the ground. Not a surprising call.

Somehow they called Larry Fitzgeralds a catch in the Packers/Cardinals game.

[yetisnowman]

This play was super close. Whatever the call was on the field would have stood because nothing definitive was shown on the replay..


Doesn't mean the refs missed some calls that typically favored Denver. Panthers did themselves no favors. But in key spots....Talib clearly off sides on Gano's missed fg. Kuechly held right in front of the running back on Andersons 35 yd run. Ginn held out of his break AND interfered with on a 3rd down throw with the panthers down 16 to 7. Then Norman gets called for a hold giving denver first and goal which led to the last TD.

[Patler]

Somehow they called Larry Fitzgeralds a catch in the Packers/Cardinals game.

And that's not surprising either. Basically, to me anyway, nothing is surprising anymore on any of those types of calls.

[mraynrand]

It was a catch plain and simple

It was anything but plain and simple

[Pugger]

That 'catch' reminded me of the one in the playoffs last year against Dallas.

[Rutnstrut]

This play was super close. Whatever the call was on the field would have stood because nothing definitive was shown on the replay..


Doesn't mean the refs missed some calls that typically favored Denver. Panthers did themselves no favors. But in key spots....Talib clearly off sides on Gano's missed fg. Kuechly held right in front of the running back on Andersons 35 yd run. Ginn held out of his break AND interfered with on a 3rd down throw with the panthers down 16 to 7. Then Norman gets called for a hold giving denver first and goal which led to the last TD.

Well they HAD to call the game that way. They couldn't rely on Manning making it end the way they wanted.

[mraynrand]

Well they HAD to call the game that way. They couldn't rely on Manning making it end the way they wanted.

exactly! You got 'em on the run now. The truth is out there!*










*don't miss the X-Files series reboot on FOX!

[woodbuck27]

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/07/the-social-bowl-10-viral-moments-from-super-bowl-50

See the Jerricho Cotchery cfatch....NO CATCH in ^^^ LINK above. ^^^

That was a good (fair/legal/solid/) CATCH. An enormous play went south. Why!? Because the Officials blew another one !

In the "I blame the Officials File" but I'm going to do it. 'THANK 'YOU' NFL Officials for figuring in too much and an important impact on a game result AGAIN !

Why? and upon reviewing the Jerricho Cotchery catch ....didn't you SEE it was 'in fact ' a good reception?

I've looked and looked at that play and I cannot see where the pigskin ever touched the playing surface. Cotchery's fingers were under that ball all throughout his roll. The Official blow another important play that led to an enormous outcome advantage and 10- 0 lead for the Peyton Manning DENVER BRONCOS over ................the Cam Newton Carolina Panthers.

And NFL RULES Committee.....Please define a fair catch before next season. Teach the officials what a Fair 'REAL' reception is PLEASE.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[smuggler]

Refs got the call right according to the rules of the day. It's a shame for Carolina. But there can be only one.

[smuggler]

Maybe Funchess is as dumb as a post (or Jeff Janis), but with his talent, he should have been much more of a factor at the end of the season. Part of his lack of progress must be due to Carolina not facing anything like that Denver defense before the Superbowl, and not having any pressing need to bring him along.

But Carolina flamed out on offense because they had nothing to counter the Denver defense. In their defense (ha ha), it's just that good.

Funchess is much 'dumber' than Janis. Functionally illiterate. Can hardly speak coherently. Sub-100 IQ quite possibly.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/twitter-goes-crazy-for-hot-super-bowl-ref-clete-blakeman-005623032.html

Too bad he can't see so good.

He does take orders from Head Office very well.