Manning Settled Defamation Suit in 2003

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Remember the story of Peyton dropping his nut sack on a female trainer while at Tennessee? In my memory, and as the article mentions explicitly, I took the reporting to mean that she worked as something akin to a Team Manager. But she held a Masters Degree and either had or shortly would have a PhD from UT. By the time of the 1996 incident, she was the Director of Health & Wellness for the Men's Athletic Program at UT. She was the head trainer I believe.

There was a previous complaint between the two in 1994 that Manning's lawyers successfully had sealed. The University settled her complaint after the 1996 incident and as part of that agreement she left the University.

Manning then wrote a book which contained references to the '96 incident and his less than flattering descriptions of the woman and allegations about her behavior while at Tennessee. He had violated a confidentiality agreement. During the subsequent case it was revealed that Peyton told others she had a potty mouth and was sleeping with students. Specifically, black students he told his Daddy.

She sued Manning directly this time for defamation and he settled with her after failing to get the case thrown out of court. This time Peyton had to shell out his own cash. Which might help explain some of his commercial choices.

The Daily News has got a court submission from her side posted with their article. The article is not that impressive. But the document is.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395

[esoxx]

If Karma were real, Peyton Manning would have ALS.

Scum.

[yetisnowman]

Guys, Peyton is a class act. As American as apple pie. Tea bagging, PED using, Bud drinking, pizza loving good ol' boy. Thank god he doesn't smile and dance on the field like a punk!

[Patler]

Guys, Peyton is a class act. As American as apple pie. Tea bagging, PED using, Bud drinking, pizza loving good ol' boy. Thank god he doesn't smile and dance on the field like a punk!

I'm not excusing Manning for anything, but Newton has his legal skeletons too, as do far too many pro athletes in all sports.

[RashanGary]

Oh wow, a young man who had a lot of glory on the football field thought this woman wanted the D. Big whoop. Something was going on where he had his pants off. He dropped his scrotum and rectum in her face. At that point he probably realized he read the situation wrongly and stopped. He was a young man learning how to navigate life with a sex drive that can be confusing in the sense that it overpowers the mind with feelings that seem like reality. Just say no, ladies. If he keeps going, that's where it becomes a problem to me. A guy thinking a girl wants sex until she specifies...... Get over it. That's life. Especially with young men.

[yetisnowman]

^^^^^^ wrong. They had a contentious relationship, with a previous incident years prior. It wasn't Peyton misreading the situation, it was a degrading act. SEXUAL ASSAULT.
Thanks for weighing in without reading the article though.
Being a medical professional and having a dude forcibly rub his asshole, cock, and balls on your face is not "life".
Get a fucking clue.

[yetisnowman]

I'm not excusing Manning for anything, but Newton has his legal skeletons too, as do far too many pro athletes in all sports.

Of course Cam was suspended and forced to leave UF, transfer to juco Brinn college. And has had to combat the "thug" stigma his entire career. Peyton got off scott free and is the white bread class act of the NFL.

[RashanGary]

Favre is white and had dick pics out there. His reputation took a hit. This isn't a racial thing, unless you make it one. You can find whatever you're looking for. If you're looking to find racism it's there. If you're looking to find racial connectedness it's there. You want to be angry and bitter about some injustice. That's what you're going to see. That's what you're going to experience. Just let it go. I'm a poor white man. I get no privileges. I work for my money. I probably always will. I can sit and whine about the rich people taking all of the privilege or I can just be happy where I'm at. My choice. You're a miserable whiner because you choose to be. Stay angry, chump. It's your misery.

[yetisnowman]

Yeah god don't you hate when women whine about sexual assault? Your interpretation of the situation is great man. I'm not miserable, just pointing out the obvious double standard. U prefer to deny that, your choice, chump.

[Patler]

Of course Cam was suspended and forced to leave UF, transfer to juco Brinn college. And has had to combat the "thug" stigma his entire career. Peyton got off scott free and is the white bread class act of the NFL.

Actually, all of the felony charges against Newton were dropped after he completed a diversion program. He later chose to transfer rather than face possible suspension for academic violations. Don't forget that the NCAA bent over backward to maintain Newton's eligibility at Auburn for the National Championship game, when it seemed he should have been suspended over recruiting violations. Then, later, (surprise, surprise) they found violations to have occurred only by a school he didn't go to, not by Auburn (wink, wink).

But don't get distracted by the facts, just go on pretending that Newton hasn't also benefited from the exulted status we give those who entertain us.

I have no idea what all went on with Manning, but I would point out that the document attached to the article linked above appears to be a brief filed by the plaintiff, therefore the statements in it are the interpretations of the plaintiff, not fact findings by the court. I wouldn't guess what all went on without at least seeing the arguments from both sides. However, it seems unlikely that it is good for Manning, regardless.

[yetisnowman]

Actually, all of the felony charges against Newton were dropped after he completed a diversion program. He later chose to transfer rather than face possible suspension for academic violations. Don't forget that the NCAA bent over backward to maintain Newton's eligibility at Auburn for the National Championship game, when it seemed he should have been suspended over recruiting violations. Then, later, (surprise, surprise) they found violations to have occurred only by a school he didn't go to, not by Auburn (wink, wink).

But don't get distracted by the facts, just go on pretending that Newton hasn't also benefited from the exulted status we give those who entertain us.

I have no idea what all went on with Manning, but I would point out that the document attached to the article linked above appears to be a brief filed by the plaintiff, therefore the statements in it are the interpretations of the plaintiff, not fact findings by the court. I wouldn't guess what all went on without at least seeing the arguments from both sides. However, it seems unlikely that it is good for Manning, regardless.

You are right I was mistaken on the specifics. Those specifics don't negate the fact that Cam faced far more scrutiny for his transgressions. Of course the elite talents are given special treatment. The fact remains that Peyton faced no punishment from the university for his behavior And has maintained a clean image, while Cam hasn't.

[pbmax]

Oh wow, a young man who had a lot of glory on the football field thought this woman wanted the D. Big whoop. Something was going on where he had his pants off. He dropped his scrotum and rectum in her face. At that point he probably realized he read the situation wrongly and stopped. He was a young man learning how to navigate life with a sex drive that can be confusing in the sense that it overpowers the mind with feelings that seem like reality. Just say no, ladies. If he keeps going, that's where it becomes a problem to me. A guy thinking a girl wants sex until she specifies...... Get over it. That's life. Especially with young men.

You have posted some odd stuff, so this is not the most off the wall stuff you have posted, but its close.

Beyond the fact that was you describe is an assault (also a pretty odd way for a 21 year old to ask out a 23-25 year old), there is the tiny matter of not having the balls (sack?) to Man up and admit what he did. Instead, he let the trainer concoct a "mooning" excuse and ask her to blame another football player (a black one). When that did not fly (and when a witness failed to back him up), he made up allegations to tarnish her reputation relying on animus toward the black football players to help explain why he didn't like her.

And as yeti points out, there had been a previous reported incident that his family's lawyer had sealed. So Peyton might read defenses like a book, but he seems slow on the uptake otherwise.

[pbmax]

Favre is white and had dick pics out there. His reputation took a hit. This isn't a racial thing, unless you make it one. You can find whatever you're looking for. If you're looking to find racism it's there. If you're looking to find racial connectedness it's there. You want to be angry and bitter about some injustice. That's what you're going to see. That's what you're going to experience. Just let it go. I'm a poor white man. I get no privileges. I work for my money. I probably always will. I can sit and whine about the rich people taking all of the privilege or I can just be happy where I'm at. My choice. You're a miserable whiner because you choose to be. Stay angry, chump. It's your misery.

He told his Daddy that she was sleeping around with black players on the team (zero evidence we are aware of). Also that she was ugly, but had big tits. And had a potty mouth (another charge that suffered under scrutiny). I don't think its yeti trying to find a racial angle here. Peyton was leveraging it to trash her reputation.

Also, how does Favre's case, one with no tie to racial animus that I am aware of, shed any light on the entirely different nature of Manning's conduct?

[mraynrand]

Being a medical professional and having a dude forcibly rub his asshole, cock, and balls on your face is not "life".


You've never worked at a county hospital, I see.

[pbmax]

You've never worked at a county hospital, I see.

At the County Hospital they will commit that guy to the 4th floor for a couple of days.

[mraynrand]

Of course Cam was suspended and forced to leave UF, transfer to juco Brinn college. And has had to combat the "thug" stigma his entire career. Peyton got off scott free and is the white bread class act of the NFL.

I admit I don't follow college football terribly close, but this is the first I heard Cam had any problems. Manning too. But when I was a student athlete tutor in college I heard and saw all kinds of nasty crap, and it wasn't racially or even gender 'excused' - it was generally excused or hidden for the star players and the minor players got the book thrown at them and expelled..

[pbmax]

I admit I don't follow college football terribly close, but this is the first I heard Cam had any problems. Manning too. But when I was a student athlete tutor in college I heard and saw all kinds of nasty crap, and it wasn't racially or even gender 'excused' - it was generally excused or hidden for the star players and the minor players got the book thrown at them and expelled..

Its absolutely a service provided to star players. The trainer was trying to get one of the lesser players to take the blame. That University and the Governor would have fired the Board of Regents in order to keep Manning.

I just find Manning's deflections particularly awful. And the use of bigoted slurs to tarnish her reputation is particularly despicable. Though possibly still quite prevalent in his home state.

[run pMc]

Disgusting.

[Patler]

I admit I don't follow college football terribly close, but this is the first I heard Cam had any problems. Manning too. But when I was a student athlete tutor in college I heard and saw all kinds of nasty crap, and it wasn't racially or even gender 'excused' - it was generally excused or hidden for the star players and the minor players got the book thrown at them and expelled..

Yup, and when Newton got in trouble, he was the backup QB, not the starter.

[pbmax]

Dennis and Callahan ‏@DandCShow 3h3 hours ago
I was just told by a current ESPN anchor that all ESPN employees were told not to report or discuss the Daily News story on Peyton Manning.

Much of what is in the document has previously been discussed. But this seems a piece with coverage so far. Its not being picked up in a lot of places.

[run pMc]

It was trending like crazy on Facebook for a while...for whatever that's worth. There was an interesting response on FOX Sports by this guy, who writes like a fanboy.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/peyton-manning-newest-target-of-fake-internet-outrage-brigade-021316

Either way, if there are legal documents out there, I'd think they speak for themselves. Hoax or no, I certainly wouldn't want any woman I know -- whether family, friend, colleague -- to be treated this way.
Everybody does dumb stuff in college, but I think there are limits.

[pbmax]

Travis' piece would be more convincing if he didn't believe (despite the target's affidavit otherwise) that the mooning wasn't directed at another player, but at the trainer.

The mooning of another player narrative came up when the trainer tried to get it to blow over. Manning repeated a version of it in his book.


As to the question of to whom Manning wanted to show his ass, Malcolm Saxon, a track and field athlete who was in the room during the incident, wrote a letter to Manning to say that no, he was not the intended moon-ee (as Manning had written in his book), imploring him to “maintain some dignity and admit to what happened… Your celebrity doesn’t mean you can treat folks that way… Do the right thing here.”

It would also be more believable if Travis could explain why a simple mooning incident cost the University $300,000 to settle (from the Daily Beast article linked), why Maning sought to trash her reputation and why he had to pay her again in 2003 and might have had to pay her again in 2005 (don't have any details other than another lawsuit was filed due to an appearance on ESPN).

I have seen a LOT of mooning in my life (probably more than is responsibly admitted). It cost no one dining privileges and north of $300,000. And two lawsuits.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/01/peyton-s-manning-s-forgotten-sex-scandal.html

[mraynrand]

Sue me!

http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/8/9/9/i/7/7/3/p-medium/MossMooning.jpg

[woodbuck27]

Oh wow, a young man who had a lot of glory on the football field thought this woman wanted the D. Big whoop. Something was going on where he had his pants off. He dropped his scrotum and rectum in her face. At that point he probably realized he read the situation wrongly and stopped. He was a young man learning how to navigate life with a sex drive that can be confusing in the sense that it overpowers the mind with feelings that seem like reality. Just say no, ladies. If he keeps going, that's where it becomes a problem to me. A guy thinking a girl wants sex until she specifies...... Get over it. That's life. Especially with young men.

It's logical what you post here and I agrre with it as we were at Peyton Manning 's age.

The trouble is that it's gotten much more different then when we were of the age Peyton Manning was when this took place.

The funny thing all the same is that today in many places 's a dog is still allowed it's first bite.

[pbmax]

What would a count of the number of harassment lawsuits or police investigations of assault that members of this board had experienced by their 22nd birthday reveal? I guess the number is close to 1 than 1 per person. Not to mention the settlement amount or subsequent 2 lawsuits.

[pbmax]

SI is on the case, and is saying its cache of documents differ from the Daily News doc.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/14/peyton-manning-lawsuit-sexual-harassment-documents-tennessee

1. 2002 lawsuit alleges grossly inappropriate conduct but does not specify gluteus maximus, taint and testicles on the head as the conduct. PFT thinks this misreads a court filing for a detailed statement of alleged conduct.

2. 1996 affidavit though does not mention junk on head at all. Though its description of the event is bare bones enough that this event could still fit inside its description. But the detail or direct mention of specific conduct is absent.

[mraynrand]

What would a count of the number of harassment lawsuits or police investigations of assault that members of this board had experienced by their 22nd birthday reveal? I guess the number is close to 1 than 1 per person. Not to mention the settlement amount or subsequent 2 lawsuits.

The Peyton Manning I know from the Nationwide commercials would never commit any wrong, or at least any wrong that everyone else hadn't committed as well. Plus, of course, everyone has also texted a picture of their genitals to a cheerleader at least once in their life. You're a guy, it's what you do. <- sorry, wrong insurance company.

[pbmax]

I wonder of the lost wages insurance that colleges allow undergrads/schools to purchase includes umbrella coverage for assault or defamation?

[mraynrand]

I wonder if Nationwide is on Peyton's side

[Joemailman]

I wonder if Nationwide is on Peyton's side

Now my balls are in your face.

[mraynrand]

Now my balls are in your face.

Manning scrotum tastes so good


^^^^ That was so off color, I printed it with color off. Highlight it if you're desperately curious....

[pbmax]

:bclap::bclap::bclap::bclap::bclap:

Joke so good I clap this hard

[pbmax]

dp

[ThunderDan]

dp

Unsettlingly appropriate after mraynrand's joke.

[pbmax]

Unsettlingly appropriate after mraynrand's joke.

Broadband fiber ain't all its cracked up to be. Between the delay in posting and somehow the laptop auto correcting the hand clap emoji to a smiley face emoji clap, it was a weird time, believe me. dp almost doesn't cover the level of possession my computer was under.

Maybe the government is editing me as I type rather than auto correct.

[pbmax]

More leaks:

Manning's filing in 2002 for Summary Judgement/Dismissal: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/20/highlights-of-mannings-motion-for-summary-judgment-in-defamation-case/

She circumstantial evidence that the redacted portion of Trainers 2002 filing had to do with Academic fraud: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/19/report-secret-1994-incident-in-manning-case-may-have-dealt-with-alleged-academic-fraud/


Interesting decision, possible error:

Critical witness not deposed by Manning's team in 2002: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/21/critical-manning-witness-was-never-questioned-under-oath/

[pbmax]

ESPN has handed its reporting to people who won't have to ask the League embarrassing questions while promoting upcoming games. They discovered a report from a Crisis Center that recorded Naughright reporting the Manning incident the day it happened.

Outside The Lines: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/14826436/documents-reveal-peyton-manning-accuser-called-sexual-assault-crisis-center-report-1996-incident

http://espn.go.com/pdf/2016/0222/espn_otl_knoxvillecrisiscenter.pdf


The document shows one of five boxes checked for describing the incident: “Adult sexual assault.” The document doesn’t name Manning, but refers generally to a “very well known public figure.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/22/report-manning-accuser-called-sexual-assault-crisis-center-on-day-of-incident/

[Cheesehead Craig]

So, what the heck is going on with this thing? I mean, what's the end game to all this? Is something that happened over a decade ago now being brought up due to Manning winning a SB?

I'm just a little lost as to why the big hubbub right now.

[mraynrand]

If you can't suppress bad news about a Dear Leader, you quietly release it while he is on parade after a glorious victory in battle. The rabble is much more accepting at that moment and the frivolities of youth are carefully rationalized away with a chuckle, a knowing nod and a facial expression etched with just the right amount of chagrin and remorse. "boys will be boys" Tomorrow comes, the sun rises, and only the memory of victory and celebration remains. The king has been purified by glory.

[woodbuck27]

The Peyton Manning I know from the Nationwide commercials would never commit any wrong, or at least any wrong that everyone else hadn't committed as well. Plus, of course, everyone has also texted a picture of their genitals to a cheerleader at least once in their life. You're a guy, it's what you do. <- sorry, wrong insurance company.

"....of course, everyone has also texted a picture of their genitals to a cheerleader at least once in their life."


Ohh ! ...... mraynrand I'm a tad shocked. Have you no pride?

Why did you want to make the gals laugh so hard they nearly passed out?

http://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/744100/155458388/stock-photo-two-beautiful-and-elegant-woman-sitting-in-cafe-friends-drink-coffee-155458388.jpg

[pbmax]

So, what the heck is going on with this thing? I mean, what's the end game to all this? Is something that happened over a decade ago now being brought up due to Manning winning a SB?

I'm just a little lost as to why the big hubbub right now.

Taking the King down a peg is my guess. Why this didn't happen in 2006, after his first SB win, is a fair question though.

Could be an attempt to get his side to say something dumb and open themselves up to another suit. But won't know that until it all plays out.