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woodbuck27
04-28-2016, 10:48 PM
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_bruin_football/2016/4/27/11517956/ucla-bruins-football-nfl-draft-profile-defensive-tackle-kenny-clark-projections-stats-results

UCLA Football: NFL Draft Profile - DT Kenny Clark

By Joe Piechowski on Apr 27, 2016, 9:33p

KYPack
04-28-2016, 10:56 PM
Kenny Clark only 20.

He's set up for life, his daddy is doing life.

Let's wait til they strap on the pads.

Interior DL takes a long time for a young-un to get proficient.

woodbuck27
04-28-2016, 11:03 PM
Kenny Clark only 20.

He's set up for life, his daddy is doing life.

Let's wait til they strap on the pads.

Interior DL takes a long time for a young-un to get proficient.

KYPack:

Does the fact he has short arms bother you at all ?

HarveyWallbangers
04-28-2016, 11:04 PM
McGinn's report on Clark


2. KENNY CLARK, UCLA (6-2 ½, 312, 5.07, 1): Third-year junior, two-year starter. “He can use a four-point stance and he’ll two-gap the center,” said one scout. “He keeps his balance and doesn’t get rolled up real easy. But you can move him over a man and he drops that back leg and he has some quickness. I don’t know that he’s a star but he’s a good player.” Was able to maintain separation despite short arms (32 1/8). “I think the wrestling background helps when it comes to his leverage,” said a second scout. “Space eater. He’s about leverage.” Finished with 159 tackles (20 for loss) and 6 ½ sacks. “He’s innately tough, strong and mature,” a third scout said. From San Bernardino, Calif. “I think he can rush passer,” said a fourth scout. “He is an outstanding defensive tackle. He can handle the doubles and invert the nose. Does it all the time.”


"Good player," an NFC personnel director said. "He's probably got the best blend of athletic ability and strength."


Should an NFL team be concerned about the son given the background of the father?

"I'm not worried about that; he's separated from that," an executive in personnel for a team said Wednesday. "He's a grown man. He's a great person. I know some of his coaches that absolutely love this kid."

pbmax
04-28-2016, 11:05 PM
Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 31m31 minutes ago
Kenny Clark joins Mike Daniels as former wrestlers on the d-line. Mike Trgovac also was a former state champion #Packers

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 35m35 minutes ago
Thompson: "There are all different kind of scenarios that you look at. People call about trade possibilities or trade scenarios."

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 36m36 minutes ago
Thompson on Kenny Clark: He seemed very excited about being a Packer when I spoke to him on the phone. #PackersDraft

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 30m30 minutes ago
Thompson on Clark: "He's excited about being in the NFL. He's dying to show us that this was a good pick and that he's a good player."

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 27m27 minutes ago
Thompson on trades: "We took a few calls. We didn't ever get to a position where we wanted to pursue that. But we had some conversations."

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 37m37 minutes ago
Thompson praises Kenny Clark for being a team captain as a third-year junior.

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 38m38 minutes ago
Thompson says #Packers were "very excited" to get Kenny Clark at No. 27. "We weren't sure we'd have that opportunity."

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 31m31 minutes ago
Thompson on trades: "We took a few calls. We didn't ever get to a position where we wanted to pursue that. But we had some conversations."

pbmax
04-28-2016, 11:09 PM
Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 22m22 minutes ago
Clark: "I had an interview with the #Packers at the combine. That's pretty much what I remember. I didn't have a visit or workout."

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 21m21 minutes ago
Kenny Clark says he likes to watch Ngata and Atkins. Mentioned Mike Daniels to me at Combine.

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 19m19 minutes ago
Clark: "I'm a football player at the end of the day. Whether it's weather or wherever I live at, that doesn't matter. I'm ready to play."

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 18m18 minutes ago
Clark: "I always played defensive line since I was younger, and I was getting bigger and bigger every year. D-line was a primary position."

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 18m18 minutes ago
And the conference call ends with his agent saying can we please end it because he has 300 people there and some of them are elderly.

KYPack
04-28-2016, 11:12 PM
KYPack:

Does the fact he has short arms bother you at all ?


Somewhat. A short armed 20 yr old kid? That is some worries.

He's got one of the best hand fighters in the league playing next to him, that should give him some tips, hints, & helps.

6.5 sacks? That's good in any league. QB heat from an interior DL is solid gold for any line coach.

Let's see what he's got.

Mebbe McGinn does know where the bear shits in the buckwheat.

texaspackerbacker
04-28-2016, 11:24 PM
I did NOT want an interior D Lineman - but it was predictable that is what they would take. Hopefully this turns out well, but I smell a new Raji.

Patler
04-28-2016, 11:26 PM
Would they have made this pick if Raji had re-signed with them?

Pugger
04-28-2016, 11:35 PM
Would they have made this pick if Raji had re-signed with them?

Perhaps. With D. Jones moving to OLB the only other DL on the roster are Daniels, Boyd, Ringo, Guion and Pennell.

wist43
04-28-2016, 11:44 PM
The Packer player he most reminds me of is Justin Harrell...

He's young, and doesn't have an injury history... so they'll plug him in on the line, and we'll forget about him. He's just not much of a play maker.

And for the record - moving Datone Jones to LB is nothing short of idiotic... reminds me of the year they tried to play Kampman and Thompson at OLB. That proved disasterous, and this will too... these guys are nothing if not consistent.

yetisnowman
04-29-2016, 12:10 AM
Seems like a reach and a project. And I'm not sure his peak is anything special. We should be looking for players that can contribute and be effective right away. We also had an opportunity to draft the most talented d-lineman in the draft, and didn't because of character questions. Hope that doesn't come back and bite us.

Patler
04-29-2016, 12:35 AM
Seems like a reach and a project. And I'm not sure his peak is anything special. We should be looking for players that can contribute and be effective right away. We also had an opportunity to draft the most talented d-lineman in the draft, and didn't because of character questions. Hope that doesn't come back and bite us.

I'm not sure how you can call it a reach when McGinn's ranking puts Clark as the #2 DT, behind only Reed and ahead of the likes of Robinson, Rankins, Billings, etc.

yetisnowman
04-29-2016, 01:10 AM
I'm not sure how you can call it a reach when McGinn's ranking puts Clark as the #2 DT, behind only Reed and ahead of the likes of Robinson, Rankins, Billings, etc.

Well those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.

HarveyWallbangers
04-29-2016, 01:35 AM
Well those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.

McGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.

I think we were having this same converation last year regarding Damarious Randall.

Harlan Huckleby
04-29-2016, 02:24 AM
The Packer player he most reminds me of is Justin Harrell.

Let's not forget Cledius Hunt and Jerel Worthy and Jamal Reynolds. :-)

wist43
04-29-2016, 02:34 AM
Let's not forget Cledius Hunt and Jerel Worthy and Jamal Reynolds. :-)

I know you're being facetious, but in terms of his build and movement - he does remind me of Justin Harrell.

At least we got one good season out of Hunt...

I'm thinking 1265 should just give up trying to draft DL in the 1st round... they're just not very good at it.

yetisnowman
04-29-2016, 02:52 AM
McGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.

I think we were having this same converation last year regarding Damarious Randall.

Just as I'm sure were having similar conversations about Harrell, Sherrod, Datone, etc.....
Hope it works out, but it's fair to be skeptical.

Fritz
04-29-2016, 05:54 AM
I am wishing they'd have traded back, maybe with Denver, and gotten that extra third that Seattle did. They still could've gotten a good defensive lineman at that spot.

But it's all just speculation. We can pronounce all we want, but nobody will really know for a couple years for sure.

mraynrand
04-29-2016, 06:56 AM
The Packer player he most reminds me of is Justin Harrell....

I wish. He's three inches shorter than Harrell. Harrell was a super large man, even if his weight was around 300. Just couldn't get past the injuries.

mraynrand
04-29-2016, 06:59 AM
I am wishing they'd have traded back, maybe with Denver, and gotten that extra third that Seattle did. They still could've gotten a good defensive lineman at that spot.

But it's all just speculation. We can pronounce all we want, but nobody will really know for a couple years for sure.

I think at least it shows that they didn't have him rated the same as the tackles taken by AZ or Carolina. IF they did, they probably trade back. But trades take two to tango - I assume Denver contacted the Packers, but maybe not.

What would have been funny is if Dallas had traded with GB before they knew the Broncos moved up. :)

Patler
04-29-2016, 07:11 AM
I'm not sure how you can call it a reach when McGinn's ranking puts Clark as the #2 DT, behind only Reed and ahead of the likes of Robinson, Rankins, Billings, etc.Well those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.McGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.

What Harvey said.

I am not a fan of McGinn's own opinion pieces, but I have always respected what he does concerning the draft. It seems that over the years he as managed to gather enough dirt or something on actual team scouts that they are willing to give him rather detailed opinions, and he filters through their conflicting remarks to achieve a combined analysis that has earned him great respect in the media. ESPN and other places refer to his draft pieces quite regularly, and he has won many awards for having the most accurate first round predictions.

As much as I dislike the bulk of McGinn's work, he really shines for a couple weeks before the draft, when he is not using his own analysis but the combined works of an apparently large and quite competent network of individuals who scout the college players for a living.

mraynrand
04-29-2016, 07:13 AM
The Packers fielded calls from teams looking to acquire their choice. "We didn't ever get into a position where we wanted to pursue that," said Thompson.

...

wist43
04-29-2016, 07:18 AM
I wish. He's three inches shorter than Harrell. Harrell was a super large man, even if his weight was around 300. Just couldn't get past the injuries.

Clark is listed at 6' 3" or 6' 2 1/2" depending on where you look, ... you're saying Harrell was 6' 5 1/2"??

mraynrand
04-29-2016, 07:21 AM
Clark is listed at 6' 3" or 6' 2 1/2" depending on where you look, ... you're saying Harrell was 6' 5 1/2"??

yeah, I think so. At least 6'5" I thought Clark was 6'2"

Harrell always looked huge around the other linemen.

wist43
04-29-2016, 07:25 AM
We're desperate for DL help, so Clark will get on the field immediately... he'll be a servicable player, but given that Billings, Robinson, Butler, Dodd, and Ragland were all still there, it's an underwhelming pick.

I liked all of those guys better than Clark.

wist43
04-29-2016, 07:26 AM
yeah, I think so. At least 6'5" I thought Clark was 6'2"

Harrell always looked huge around the other linemen.

Harrell was listed at 6'4, and Clark is listed at 6'3... 3-4=3?? The new math??

mraynrand
04-29-2016, 07:31 AM
Harrell was listed at 6'4, and Clark is listed at 6'3... 3-4=3?? The new math??

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HarrJu99.htm

I'm glad Clark is 6'3"

Pugger
04-29-2016, 07:38 AM
We're desperate for DL help, so Clark will get on the field immediately... he'll be a servicable player, but given that Billings, Robinson, Butler, Dodd, and Ragland were all still there, it's an underwhelming pick.

I liked all of those guys better than Clark.

With his heart issue I can understand why Ragland wasn't taken in the first by anyone.

wist43
04-29-2016, 07:44 AM
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HarrJu99.htm

I'm glad Clark is 6'3"

The Packers and NFL both listed Harrell at 6'4...

To me, Clark and Harrell look very similar in how they move. Similar body type, neither possessing any special traits. Clark will be a decent player; but, I liked at least 5-6 other guys better.

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:16 AM
What Harvey said.

I am not a fan of McGinn's own opinion pieces, but I have always respected what he does concerning the draft. It seems that over the years he as managed to gather enough dirt or something on actual team scouts that they are willing to give him rather detailed opinions, and he filters through their conflicting remarks to achieve a combined analysis that has earned him great respect in the media. ESPN and other places refer to his draft pieces quite regularly, and he has won many awards for having the most accurate first round predictions.

As much as I dislike the bulk of McGinn's work, he really shines for a couple weeks before the draft, when he is not using his own analysis but the combined works of an apparently large and quite competent network of individuals who scout the college players for a living.

Sometimes you can see the work he does to balance opinions when you see the disconnect between the headline/lede paragraph and the ranking. One of the position rankings he put out this year was three paragraphs of doubt about a guy and then in the rankings he was listed first.

You have to remember even a 1,500 word article is leaving a lot out.

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:17 AM
Would they have made this pick if Raji had re-signed with them?

No, not with another year to test run Pennell, Boyd and Ringo.

Smidgeon
04-29-2016, 08:17 AM
I know you're being facetious, but in terms of his build and movement - he does remind me of Justin Harrell.

At least we got one good season out of Hunt...

I'm thinking 1265 should just give up trying to draft DL in the 1st round... they're just not very good at it.

Pre-injury, wasn't Harrell flashing in spurts? Considering it takes DL a year or two to develop in the NFL, that's what you look for. I still think Harrell could've been something except for his back injury.

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:20 AM
Pre-injury, wasn't Harrell flashing in spurts? Considering it takes DL a year or two to develop in the NFL, that's what you look for. I still think Harrell could've been something except for his back injury.

Before he hurt his back, yes. He could rag doll Guards. He wasn't Wilfork strong, but he was going to be fine one on one. Not much pass rush beside push, but he looked legit until the injuries, especially his back, went out.

Cheesehead Craig
04-29-2016, 08:22 AM
Pre-injury, wasn't Harrell flashing in spurts? Considering it takes DL a year or two to develop in the NFL, that's what you look for. I still think Harrell could've been something except for his back injury.

And his weight issues, and his tearing his ACL, and his torn bicep, toe fungus, hangnails...

His career is like Delta Airlines' motto: "It's always something"

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2doHAeUxE

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbD179r7OKo

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:31 AM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15424227

Video and commentary from some dude at ESPN.

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:32 AM
Interview:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PijY82UGeYo

pbmax
04-29-2016, 08:35 AM
In his spare time he co-invented BeBop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjS39J5QHA4

woodbuck27
04-29-2016, 08:44 AM
Would they have made this pick if Raji had re-signed with them?

It seems the response to that question Patler....from what I'm discovering is 'a likely NO '.

woodbuck27
04-29-2016, 08:48 AM
We're desperate for DL help, so Clark will get on the field immediately... he'll be a servicable player, but given that Billings, Robinson, Butler, Dodd, and Ragland were all still there, it's an underwhelming pick.

I liked all of those guys better than Clark.

TT has a bag labeled ...... "Surprizes for Packer fans". :whaa:

Fritz
04-29-2016, 09:20 AM
I wish we could know what calls Ted fielded about trading back - as I said elsewhere, I'm guessing the Broncos and/or Cowboys called GB about trading up to get Lynch. Probably one or both teams realized there was a bidding war, so they had to move up higher to get Lynch, leaving GB behind.

I guess we'll find out how good Clark is compared to all the guys Ted didn't pick instead, especially the defensive linemen. We'll see. And if Wist will list the 5-6 guys he likes better, we can see how that plays out in three or four years, too.

pbmax
04-29-2016, 09:24 AM
Very nice writeup that covers about everything I have seen of Clark:

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/nfl-draft-scouting-report-kenny-clark-dl-ucla

George Cumby
04-29-2016, 09:40 AM
Looks good and violent In his highlight reels.

pbmax
04-29-2016, 09:41 AM
We'll have a better idea what Ted was thinking when we see him in camp getting reps. McGinn and every other Packer blogger had Clark as the need pick (or someone was leaking). And they ALL see him taking Raji's spot at NT.

From that perspective, you can see the Packers having him as their highest ranked at a position of need.

Nutz and some other write ups see him as more versatile, though he is not as tall as most 5 techs. If he gets reps all over the line, might mean the plan for Raji's replacement isn't set in stone and they just needed a body.

If that's the case, then you have to think they just liked him more than any other interior lineman.

Patler
04-29-2016, 09:46 AM
I read one article that I can't find right now that said if you watch enough tape on Myles Jack, you come away with a strong appreciation for what Clark did to free him up.

George Cumby
04-29-2016, 09:52 AM
In the game films you see him being double teamed constantly.

woodbuck27
04-29-2016, 10:11 AM
In terms of grading...how did DT Kenny Clark stack up?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-grade-input:1/dt-by-position-input:dl

Bossman641
04-29-2016, 10:14 AM
It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. I thought the plan was for guion to play the nose. I thought the consensus was he played nt much better in 2014 than he did end in 15. Mcginns article, as well as Clark being the top nt, indicate otherwise.

HarveyWallbangers
04-29-2016, 10:25 AM
It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. I thought the plan was for guion to play the nose. I thought the consensus was he played nt much better in 2014 than he did end in 15. Mcginns article, as well as Clark being the top nt, indicate otherwise.

I don't think there's much of difference with Guion. He got off to a slow start, but I think that was mostly due to the suspension. Raji was better at NT than DE.

mraynrand
04-29-2016, 10:32 AM
It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. I thought the plan was for guion to play the nose. I thought the consensus was he played nt much better in 2014 than he did end in 15. Mcginns article, as well as Clark being the top nt, indicate otherwise.

I thought Guion was more consistent in 2015. Consistently average, but consistent.

pbmax
04-29-2016, 12:08 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2634146-2016-nfl-draft-grades-round-1-report-card/page/28

Tanner not impressed.

Boy, it sure has been one whirlwind of an offseason for the Green Bay Packers, hasn’t it? They haven’t been this busy in years. They signed tight end Jared Cook in free agency! And...someone named Lerentee McCray at linebacker! And...they also re-signed James Starks, Nick Perry and Don Barclay to provide extra anxiety for Aaron Rodgers! Re-signings are transactions, too!

Phew. What tumult. Can you stand the excitement, Packers fans? General manager Ted Thompson may need to sleep this one off for the next three or four free-agency periods.

Thompson stayed awake long enough to dip into this year's deep defensive tackle class, which means it's time for another installment of Big Uglies: A 2016 Field Guide. Don’t try to tell one monstrous interior lineman from another without it!

Here's Kenny Clark's profile:

Size: 6'3", 314 pounds

Athleticism: Former high school wrestler

Honors: All-Pac-12

Numbers: 47 tackles and six sacks last year—a lot of production for a defensive tackle

Defining Special Trait: High football IQ; Clark wins by reading blocks and diagnosing plays

Potential Flaws: Lacks top-notch physical traits

Also Worth Mentioning: Clark plans to coach after his college career

Clark is a film junkie who anticipates the snap count, diagnoses blocking schemes and out-thinks his blockers. Those skills don’t translate as well to the NFL as you might expect: Pro blockers are less predictable and more likely to grind a lot of film themselves than guys in the Pac-12. Still, Clark should excel at the smaller tasks of defensive line play: sniffing out screens, cleaning up sacks after the quarterback is flushed from the pocket, and so on.

You can tell why the Packers like Clark: He's like a giant Ted Thompson. That said, there are many other defensive tackles on the board with higher upside than Clark.

Grade: C+

3irty1
04-29-2016, 01:10 PM
Anyone feeling unenthused about the pick who'd like some Kenny Clark boner-fuel:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKTXSDwnyg

Sumbitch gets 11 tackles out of the NT position in this game! Several times you see him put his dude on skates and take him straight backwards. Good example of this at 1:10:25 where he gets a sack.

HarveyWallbangers
04-29-2016, 01:22 PM
Here is a video focusing on just Clark of that same game:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWEu7Od3vdk

Maxie the Taxi
04-29-2016, 01:37 PM
Another 50 lbs. and he'd be Gilbert Brown.

George Cumby
04-29-2016, 01:48 PM
Anyone feeling unenthused about the pick who'd like some Kenny Clark boner-fuel:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKTXSDwnyg

Sumbitch gets 11 tackles out of the NT position in this game! Several times you see him put his dude on skates and take him straight backwards. Good example of this at 1:10:25 where he gets a sack.

Ted likes it when they play big in big games.

Cheesehead Craig
04-29-2016, 01:49 PM
I read one article that I can't find right now that said if you watch enough tape on Myles Jack, you come away with a strong appreciation for what Clark did to free him up.

Thought I saw that as well on NFL.com.

3irty1
04-29-2016, 01:52 PM
nm

esoxx
04-29-2016, 03:09 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2634146-2016-nfl-draft-grades-round-1-report-card/page/28

Tanner not impressed.

Boy, it sure has been one whirlwind of an offseason for the Green Bay Packers, hasn’t it? They haven’t been this busy in years. They signed tight end Jared Cook in free agency! And...someone named Lerentee McCray at linebacker! And...they also re-signed James Starks, Nick Perry and Don Barclay to provide extra anxiety for Aaron Rodgers! Re-signings are transactions, too!

Phew. What tumult. Can you stand the excitement, Packers fans? General manager Ted Thompson may need to sleep this one off for the next three or four free-agency periods.

Thompson stayed awake long enough to dip into this year's deep defensive tackle class, which means it's time for another installment of Big Uglies: A 2016 Field Guide. Don’t try to tell one monstrous interior lineman from another without it!

Here's Kenny Clark's profile:

Size: 6'3", 314 pounds

Athleticism: Former high school wrestler

Honors: All-Pac-12

Numbers: 47 tackles and six sacks last year—a lot of production for a defensive tackle

Defining Special Trait: High football IQ; Clark wins by reading blocks and diagnosing plays

Potential Flaws: Lacks top-notch physical traits

Also Worth Mentioning: Clark plans to coach after his college career

Clark is a film junkie who anticipates the snap count, diagnoses blocking schemes and out-thinks his blockers. Those skills don’t translate as well to the NFL as you might expect: Pro blockers are less predictable and more likely to grind a lot of film themselves than guys in the Pac-12. Still, Clark should excel at the smaller tasks of defensive line play: sniffing out screens, cleaning up sacks after the quarterback is flushed from the pocket, and so on.

You can tell why the Packers like Clark: He's like a giant Ted Thompson. That said, there are many other defensive tackles on the board with higher upside than Clark.

Grade: C+

You know who else was a big anticipate the snap count guy?

Jerel "I'm a big fat bust" Worthy.

Let's hope he's not that guy.

woodbuck27
04-30-2016, 12:40 AM
Round 1, Pick 27 (27) Kenny Clark DT 6'3" 314 UCLA 5.9


Pick Analysis: "Clark got more active as his career went along at UCLA, and that allowed Myles Jack to make plays. Clark is an inside force against the pass. I like this pick for Green Bay because B.J. Raji is no longer there. We were thinking maybe inside linebacker here, but this pick works." -- Charles Davis

woodbuck27
04-30-2016, 11:19 AM
Bump.

Cheesehead Craig
04-30-2016, 07:15 PM
Gonna homer it up and say he's going to be a stud.

woodbuck27
05-01-2016, 12:10 AM
Gonna homer it up and say he's going to be a stud.

He'll be fine.....in time.

Joemailman
05-01-2016, 01:45 AM
You know who else was a big anticipate the snap count guy?

Jerel "I'm a big fat bust" Worthy.

Let's hope he's not that guy.

CBS gives a somewhat different evaluation:


Scouts can check off a lot of boxes with Clark. He was a high school wrestling champ, and many of those maneuvers translate from the mat to the football field, playing with low hips, leverage and power.
He's a stout run defender who comes off the ball low and hard, consistently winning the leverage battle. Anchors well to double teams, planting his feet into the turf and locking out his arms. Clark flashes a quick burst but doesn't rely on it, exploding through the gap to wreak havoc at the line of scrimmage when opponents attempt to pull to block others.

Worthy was a one-trick pony who had nothing if he didn't beat the guy off the snap. Clark seems to have a more well-rounded game.

pbmax
05-05-2016, 09:54 AM
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/05/03/nfl-draft-peter-king-mailbag


That usually is not Thompson’s way. Green Bay did have a chance to trade with Dallas. Cowboys VP Stephen Jones talked with Alonzo Highsmith of the Packers late in the first round, offering Dallas’ 34th and 101st picks overall for Green Bay’s 27th overall pick. So Green Bay, by gambling that Clark would have been there at 34, could have dropped down seven spots, picked their guy, and had a high fourth-round pick in the swap. The Packers obviously didn’t want to risk moving down seven spots.

The trade would not have happened, as Lynch would have been gone, but there was apparently an offer on the table. The big question would be whether Denver called GB.

Fritz
05-05-2016, 10:13 AM
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/05/03/nfl-draft-peter-king-mailbag



The trade would not have happened, as Lynch would have been gone, but there was apparently an offer on the table. The big question would be whether Denver called GB.


Given that both the Cowboys and Broncos could be fairly certain Seattle would not take Lynch, I'm guessing Denver, too, also approached Green Bay, though you'd think it'd be more tempting to move down to their 31 overall and get a third rounder, too... did they like Clark that much?

Carolina_Packer
05-05-2016, 11:33 AM
CBS gives a somewhat different evaluation:



Worthy was a one-trick pony who had nothing if he didn't beat the guy off the snap. Clark seems to have a more well-rounded game.

The majority of players drafted by TT in rounds 1-4, and have not worked out are the result of injury. When a player gets hurt right away in his career rehabs his way back only to discover that he can't play at the NFL level always makes me wonder if he would have busted anyway, or if the injury sapped him of his ability to use the talent for which he was drafted.

pbmax
05-05-2016, 01:40 PM
Given that both the Cowboys and Broncos could be fairly certain Seattle would not take Lynch, I'm guessing Denver, too, also approached Green Bay, though you'd think it'd be more tempting to move down to their 31 overall and get a third rounder, too... did they like Clark that much?

Might be. He said he moves down when the number of players they like at a spot exceeds the number of places they move. They might have had him above the other two NTs. They want pass rush and he has that above Billings and might rate over Reed in that department as well.

woodbuck27
05-13-2016, 12:52 PM
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