Fort McMurray, ALTA devastated by raging wildfire, officials say it could get worse.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fort-mcmurray-devastated-raging-wildfire-officials-could-worse-100024848.html

Fort McMurray devastated by raging wildfire, officials say it could get worse

" A wildfire that is raging in the northern Alberta oilsands city of Fort McMurray has now destroyed 80 per cent of the homes in one neighbourhood and extensively damaged property in a number of others. "

For too many everything they worked their lives for is gone. They do have the rest of their lives to rebuild and they will.

The Canadian Press

May 4, 2016

Comment woodbuck27:

This is the greatest natural disaster (I believe) in our Nation's history. Many people have lost their homes to this fire and are only left with a vehicle and the cloths on their backs. The entire city of Fort McMurray (Pop, > 80K) has been evacuated. The logistics involved in doing so is incredible in terms of the challenge.

The entire nation will pull together over this disaster. Fire fighters are working even through their time off and are exhausted. They managed to extinguish all the fires in Fort McMurray. There have been no lives lost.


" Fire Chief Darby Allen said they have requested military assistance and expect the army and air force will start sending out troops within a couple of days.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau tweeted late Tuesday that he had spoken to Alberta Premier Rachel Notley and offered his government's support. "

[Patler]

Amazing, and wonderful, that no one has been lost with as much being burned as reported.

Any indication what started the fire?

[woodbuck27]

Amazing, and wonderful, that no one has been lost with as much being burned as reported.

Any indication what started the fire?

Hi Patler:

Yes so far as I'm aware no loss of life even indirectly ie 'a heart attack' and this disaster for ALTA residents of the Fort McMurray area.

Mae and I belong to a group of Seniors that get together now every Wed. We're working as a group to organize in the Port Severn and Honey Harbour neighborhood. We meet at Croatian Canadian friends of ours who run a Primitive cooking business.....Lucky ad Heidi. I brought up this tragedy for the residents of Fort McMurray and vicinity yesterday and Lucky remarked that it might take months for the origin of a fire in a Boreal Forest to become established as a forest fire of enormous destruction. Someone tosses a cigarette and thinks maybe I should have stamped that out or even putting that cigarette under foot doesn't get the job done. No fire ensues and he/she thinks well ..."I 'm guessing all's OK.

Not necessarily the case.

Another problem is glass in the woods that can act like a magnifying glass and eventually start a raging forest fire. Men working in the woods on a dry hot day....a spark from a saw or other machinery gets a fire started and out of control.

At this time the temp is running in the 30 C range and that's unusually hot for this time of the year. Yesterday it was 30 C and winds to the south at 30 MPH. This fire is a beast that men and equipment are losing their battle with. We need rain... Mother Nature to step up.

It's a rel concern of late years these massive forest fires that keep on turning up with our hot and dryer weather. Climate change is a major culprit.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/situation-remains-volatile-residents-first-responders-fort-mcmurray-100014288.html


Situation remains volatile for residents, first responders in Fort McMurray


The Canadian Press ... May 5, 2016

FORT MCMURRAY, Alta. - An ever-changing, volatile situation is fraying the nerves of residents and officials alike as a massive wildfire continues to bear down on the Fort McMurray area of northern Alberta.

In the wee hours this morning, weary evacuees from Fort McMurray were sitting on buses headed for Edmonton after being forced out of their temporary shelter in nearby Anzac.

"They told us to get out — it is a safety issue," she said. "They just want people to have enough time and not be like Fort McMurray where all of a sudden the fire is on you."

For the rest of this story please click the LINK.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/aerial-view-fort-mcmurray-wildfire-201613309.html


Perilous Conditions on Evacuation Route From Fort McMurray Wildfire


Storyful ...May 5, 2016

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fort-mcmurray-fire-evacuees-trying-012333541.html


Fort McMurray fire evacuees are trying to find shelter


Global News ... May 5, 2016

Thu, May 5: The wildfire that has devastated Fort McMurray exploded in size over the past 24 hours. As Ted Chernecki reports, officials are now struggling to find places for the thousands of evacuees.

[Freak Out]

I heard this evening the ALCAN closed. Pretty nasty fire. I could not believe how much the "Forts" has grown since the last time I drove through.

[woodbuck27]

I heard this evening the ALCAN closed. Pretty nasty fire. I could not believe how much the "Forts" has grown since the last time I drove through.

http://energeticcity.ca/article/news/2016/05/05/alaska-highway-closed-mile-73

Alaska Highway closed at Mile 73

See map in LINK above.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/alaska-highway-bc-wildfire-1.3569248

Wildfires spark state of emergency, Alaska Highway advisory near Fort St. John

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/alberta-fire-evacuees-moved-2nd-time-weather-shifts-124022410.html

Canada evacuating 8,000 wildfire evacuees by air

The Associated Press ... The Canadian Press

May 5, 2016

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/r8E.xeiV2cXLldRW3ya6_g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjUwO2g9NDMwO2lsPX BsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_ca/News/Capress/EDM130-54_2016_043022_high.jpg

A Beast can be beautiful.

[woodbuck27]

The number for the cost of this fire...is a reported :

$ 9,000,000,000.00.....$ 9 BILLION DOLLARS $.

[Freak Out]

VERY early start to the fire season up north. We see lots of large fires of this kind in interior AK as well....most of them are in unpopulated areas though.

[MadScientist]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/r8E.xeiV2cXLldRW3ya6_g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjUwO2g9NDMwO2lsPX BsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_ca/News/Capress/EDM130-54_2016_043022_high.jpg

A Beast can be beautiful.

A scene like that looks like it should be from a SF movie, not real life.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/family-watches-fort-mcmurray-home-143720972.html

Family watches Fort McMurray home burn on security camera

CBC.ca Videos

May 6, 2016

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/wildfire-impacts-economy-002448527.html

Wildfire impacts economy

CBC.ca Videos ...May 6, 2016


RBC's Dawn Desjardins says Fort McMurray fire could lead to cuts in GDP outlook

[woodbuck27]

VERY early start to the fire season up north. We see lots of large fires of this kind in interior AK as well....most of them are in unpopulated areas though.

I believe if I got the number correctly.... in the news today their reporting 63 Wild Fires in BC and Alberta.

[woodbuck27]

A scene like that looks like it should be from a SF movie, not real life.

It's somehow well honestly to me, taking all else aside, a beautiful photo.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/video-timelapse-footage-shows-intensity-of-fort-203137194.html

Video: Timelapse footage shows intensity of Fort McMurray fire

This timelapse video shows the fire sweeping through a hangar in Fort McMurray overnight on May 4, with thick smoke reducing visibility.

Yahoo Canada Video

May 6, 2016

[esoxx]

Any rain in the forecast?????

[woodbuck27]

Any rain in the forecast?????

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/alberta/fort-mcmurray

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/weather-factoring-into-fort-mcmurray-wildfire/67484/

esoxx they need a lot more than showers rather some heavy rain for a couple of days. There are way too many forest in western Canada now.

[woodbuck27]

This is interesting:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russian-offer-send-heavy-water-bombers-fight-fort-203208856.html


Russian offer to send heavy water bombers to fight Fort Mac fire in limbo


Murray Brewster, The Canadian Press ... May 9, 2016

OTTAWA - " ...The Trudeau government has yet to respond to an offer by Russia to dispatch massive water bombers and fire fighting specialists to battle the growing inferno around Fort McMurray, Alta.

The proposal was made late last week by Vladimir Puchkov, the Russian minister of emergency measures.

A spokesman for Russia's embassy in Ottawa, Kirill Kalinin, said Sunday that they continue to stand "ready to help our Canadian partners to fight the ongoing wildfires in Alberta. ..."

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/live-blog-latest-news-and-updates-on-the-alberta-210124100.html

Live blog: Latest news and updates on the Alberta wildfires

Daily Brew .....May 5, 2016

[mraynrand]

Fuck Yeah!!! I still have my propane grill and my sweet ride!

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/2NUu9XOmNeQMK4esoKaYLw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9MTI4MDtoPTk2MDtpbD 1wbGFuZQ--/http://66.media.tumblr.com/9abbe446cc64809569f99e8b1e7dd3d7/tumblr_inline_o6rr80boJU1qg2h2r_1280.jpg
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/e4UUmoMXYJZMSskeC.5uQw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9MTI4MDtoPTk2MDtpbD 1wbGFuZQ--/http://66.media.tumblr.com/f0d5d2816fbe1dd8d2d6fded3b16fcab/tumblr_inline_o6rda0TmDl1qamitj_1280.jpg

[SkinBasket]

God's punishment for gayness is a glorious thing to behold.

Woodblock, you blame climate change, but these fires have been happening since there was something there to burn. Only difference is the hubris of Canadians and their aptitude for playing the victim. You have an old forest, it WILL burn. That's how it works. So buck up and stop being a pussy about it.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/the-fort-mcmurray-disaster-read-the-latest-tuesday/article29930041/

Fort McMurray fire

Fort McMurray fire: What’s happening now, and what you’ve missed

Comment: woodbuck27:

I just posted a Video in the Incredible News Stories thread RE: a fight between a large water snake and a huge catfish witnessed by more than a few men out that day on the Colorado River. We're not sure which won that battle?

If the fire is the snake the total effort to seduce that fire (s) is the catfish.

The Fort McMurray Fires now covers an area reported to be twice the area of the city of Calgary and moving eastwardly and rapidly towards the Provincial border of Saskatchewan where member of Packerrats, Upnorth resides.

“We have not seen the predicted movement of the large fires in Alberta towards Saskatchewan. They are stable there in terms of their movement, which is a relief for us in the northwest part of the province,” said Duane McKay, the province’s commissioner of emergency management.

The fires remained about 50 kilometres west of the nearest Saskatchewan community.

The size of the fire area is still growing. It now has covered a burnt area of 229,000 Hectares... Tuesday May 10,2016. On Monday of this week the area that fire covered was 204,000 hectares.

There lots more by clicking on the LINK.

[woodbuck27]

God's punishment for gayness is a glorious thing to behold.

Woodblock, you blame climate change, but these fires have been happening since there was something there to burn. Only difference is the hubris of Canadians and their aptitude for playing the victim. You have an old forest, it WILL burn. That's how it works. So buck up and stop being a pussy about it.

SkinBasket:

In fact this is a tragedy in terms of Canadian history of epic proportions.

Yet....certainly not measuring up to the tragic drama you Americans are faced with in terms of current and impending political leadership and quality of competence. A nation of 318.9 million (2014). Now that is tragic and not even humorous or laughable as it's rather very sad.

I'll respond to you in East Indian fashion as that's rather colorful and rather humorous in terms of endeavouring an accurate response.

Your ignorance is personified in the above post. Your pathetic and useless flesh..... simply a worthless sad person who merely exists to slime away from your own stink.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/home-security-camera-shows-fort-mcmurray-185633880.html

Home security camera shows Fort McMurray firefighters hard at work saving a house from burning down


The Daily Buzz ... May 10, 2016

Comment woodbuck27:

This is a story now of a battle by MEN and WOMEN to stop a Fire and the damage it's causing in terms of damage of an epic proportion in Canadian history.

[Deputy Nutz]

SkinBasket:

In fact this is a tragedy in terms of Canadian history of epic proportions.

Yet....certainly not measuring up to the tragic drama you Americans are faced with in terms of current and impending political leadership and quality of competence. A nation of 318.9 million (2014). Now that is tragic and not even humorous or laughable as it's rather very sad.

I'll respond to you in East Indian fashion as that's rather colorful and rather humorous in terms of endeavouring an accurate response.

Your ignorance is personified in the above post. Your pathetic and useless flesh..... simply a worthless sad person who merely exists to slime away from your own stink.



Remember, if we go down so do you.

[mraynrand]

Yet....certainly not measuring up to the tragic drama you Americans are faced with in terms of current and impending political leadership and quality of competence. A nation of 318.9 million (2014). Now that is tragic and not even humorous or laughable as it's rather very sad.

take it to FYI

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh-game/shaq-adds-o-canada-ps-to-thank-you-note-to-fort-mcmurray-first-responders-125204599.html

Shaq adds O Canada PS to thank-you note for Fort McMurray first responders

" ...You guys are the true heroes,” the Basketball Hall of Famer and reserve police officer said in a video message posted on his Facebook page. “You’ve saved over 90,000 people. That’s brave. Hopefully you can get more out of there. Love you guys. Love Canada. And thank you, you guys are real heroes.” ... " Shaquille O'Neal

By: Yahoo Sports Staff

4 hours ago

Comment woodbuck27:

Real people with intelligence and consciously awareness really understand the negative gravity of this horrible event.

[woodbuck27]

take it to FYI

You never want to see me in there with the background I have in politics and no lack of commentary.

Your not at all equipped to deal with all of that M. I can really fly in that arena.

[woodbuck27]

Remember, if we go down so do you.

What is that Deputy .... Psycho Babble !?

You people are such a mess when it comes down to even a decent measure of real respect.

Please ....don't even respond to me if you cannot demonstrat6e any restraint for your nonsense.

Otherwise 'you bore me'. I trust my clarity here Deputy.

Question to self:

Why should I lower myself to your and SkinBasket's level of depravity?

Answer:

I should not.

[mraynrand]

You never want to see me in there with the background I have in politics and no lack of commentary.

Your not at all equipped to deal with all of that M. I can really fly in that arena.

bring your A game

[HowardRoark]

You never want to see me in there with the background I have in politics and no lack of commentary.

Your not at all equipped to deal with all of that M. I can really fly in that arena.

I think FYI would be much better with you there. You're opinions would be valued; your a very smart guy.

[mraynrand]

I think FYI would be much better with you there. You're opinions would be valued; your a very smart guy.

Please ....don't even respond to me if you cannot demonstrat6e any restraint for your nonsense.

[woodbuck27]

Please ....don't even respond to me if you cannot demonstrat6e any restraint for your nonsense.

:whaa:

Sweet LORD ..... PLEASE....help mraynrand and mraynrand as member HowardRoark or whomever is whatever member. My concerns are genuinne.

Jesus? Don't you have some cure for such a Multiple Personality Disorder.

[woodbuck27]

I think FYI would be much better with you there. You're opinions would be valued; your a very smart guy.

There are three thing that should never be debated:

SEX, Religion and Politics.

[mraynrand]

:whaa:

Sweet LORD ..... PLEASE....help mraynrand and mraynrand as member HowardRoark or whomever is whatever member. My concerns are genuinne.

Jesus? Don't you have some cure for such a Multiple Personality Disorder.



Please ....don't even respond to me if you cannot demonstrat6e any restraint for your nonsense.

[woodbuck27]

Please ....don't even respond to me if you cannot demonstrat6e any restraint for your nonsense.

Maybe your finally getting it...** it **?

** A measure of decency for just another member here...some control and respect.

I contribute a lot here mraynrand. That fact doesn't constitute any demand; yet I request some common sense from you. We're a long time away from the elementary school playground. :idea:

I simply request we make PEACE and realize we can live with our differences. Afterall it's those differences that make this Ole World spin.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/fort-mcmurray-fire-oilsands-1.3576781

Oilsands production restarts cautiously as Fort McMurray fire weakens

Thomson Reuters Posted: May 11, 2016 9:25 AM ET| Last Updated: May 11, 2016 1:26 PM ET

[mraynrand]

Maybe your finally getting it...** it **?

** A measure of decency for just another member here...some control and respect.

I contribute a lot here mraynrand. That fact doesn't constitute any demand; yet I request some common sense from you. We're a long time away from the elementary school playground. :idea:

I simply request we make PEACE and realize we can live with our differences. Afterall it's those differences that make this Ole World spin.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRFNg-Eyt_0

[Deputy Nutz]

You never want to see me in there with the background I have in politics and no lack of commentary.

Your not at all equipped to deal with all of that M. I can really fly in that arena.

Check your insanity at the door

[Deputy Nutz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMIBeU1gDuc

Seems appropriate

[mraynrand]

Pants on Fire!


god people are stupid.

[Deputy Nutz]

My students and I really enjoyed this video

[Patler]

It never ceases to amaze me how completely clueless some people are. If they didn't kill themselves, or burn themselves severely, some of the people on that video are extremely lucky.

That said, if you disassociate yourself from the injuries that may have happened, some of those events are hilarious, in a slap-stick humor sort of way.

[mraynrand]

one of the most important lessons I learned in life is that gasoline vapour is flammable.

[woodbuck27]

Check your insanity at the door

Your such a fine man. :???:

[woodbuck27]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRFNg-Eyt_0

Really !? Is there a better way?

[Deputy Nutz]

Your such a fine man. :???:

What the hell does that mean?

[mraynrand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc3OnSQc48s

The keyboard on this is horrible. It sounds like the 'harpsichord' setting on a casio electric board.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/prime-minister-justin-trudeau-visit-fort-mcmurray-meet-080024137.html

Canadians have yet to grasp 'amazing' work that saved Fort McMurray: Trudeau

Dean Bennett, The Canadian Press ,,, May 13, 2016

" I don't think Canadians yet understand what happened. They know there was a fire. They're beginning to hear the wonderful news that so much of the town was saved," he told 150 firefighters and first responders after an aerial tour by military helicopter.

"They don't yet understand that that wasn't a fluke of wind or rain or luck that happened. This was the extraordinary response by people such as yourself. The work you did to save so much of this community ... was unbelievable."

There's more by clicking the LINK.

[Patler]

The facts about the damage in Fort McMurray as of 5/13:


An official count found that 2,432 buildings were destroyed and 500 were damaged. About 25,000 buildings are “still standing” but may have smoke damage.

[woodbuck27]

The facts about the damage in Fort McMurray as of 5/13:

All that Patler and still Spirits seem high. That city will come back somehow.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/oil-sands-producers-helping-workers-affected-by-fort-mcmurray-wildfire/article30027628/

Oil sands producers helping workers affected by Fort McMurray wildfire

CARRIE TAIT and KELLY CRYDERMAN ... CALGARY — The Globe and Mail

Published Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:20PM EDT ...Last updated Sunday, May 15, 2016 7:19PM EDT


" ...Oil sands producers are helping their Fort McMurray employees forced from their homes by the northern Alberta wildfire with access to an array of emergency financial supports, including loans, per diems and, in some cases, sizable lump-sum payments. ... "

Click on the LINK for more on this story.

[SkinBasket]

All that Patler and still Spirits seem high. That city will come back somehow.

They've done it before.

http://beprepared.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/We-Will-Rebuild-Meme-300x193.jpg

[Upnorth]

All that Patler and still Spirits seem high. That city will come back somehow.

Short answer to the somehow is money. Longs answer is lots and lots and lots and lots of money invested in the area and you need people to recover the investment. People need houses, food and services.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Short answer to the somehow is money. Longs answer is lots and lots and lots and lots of money invested in the area and you need people to recover the investment. People need houses, food and services.

Fireproof homes would help too.

[Deputy Nutz]

^^^^^^^

DUH!

[woodbuck27]

Two days ago (Tues. 17 May, 2016) it was reported that the fire was moving forward at a rate of 40 yds /min.

That's a fast moving fire or burning at a rate of 1.36 MPH.

[mraynrand]

Does a fire ever move in reverse?

[woodbuck27]

Does a fire ever move in reverse?

A fire after it's started needs what besides Oxygen to perpetrate itself ......mraynrand?

Now simply take that correct answer to another logical thought.

There ( voila !) ....................your capable of arriving at the answer to your own ? mraynrand.

[SkinBasket]

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

[Cheesehead Craig]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/scams-fort-mcmurray-wildfire-1.3590705

"Fraudsters are attempting to scam kind-hearted Albertans out of donations, evacuees out of funds to rebuild their home and the government out of disaster funds, officials warn."

I wonder if this is how Mad paid for the 3 year renewal to this trailer park of a forum?

[woodbuck27]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/scams-fort-mcmurray-wildfire-1.3590705

"Fraudsters are attempting to scam kind-hearted Albertans out of donations, evacuees out of funds to rebuild their home and the government out of disaster funds, officials warn."

I wonder if this is how Mad paid for the 3 year renewal to this trailer park of a forum?

Why do I see this as the Cadillac of NFL Team football forums etc. etc. etc.etc..

[Deputy Nutz]

Has Canada burned to ashes yet?

[woodbuck27]

Has Canada burned to ashes yet?

No...Thank God for 'the Great Lakes'.

[woodbuck27]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos-re-entry-to-fort-1441453447700534.html

PHOTOS: Fort McMurray residents return home and assess the damage

Daily Brew ..... June 1, 2016