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Patler
05-14-2016, 08:42 AM
.... and neither Aaron Rodgers nor Clay Matthews is one of the three.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/insidersblog/2016/05/13/3-packers-make-pff-top-101-list-2015/84327286/

Daniels, Lang and Sitton.

What horrible salary cap management. Heads should roll. The two highest paid on the roster suck up 1/5th of the cap, and they aren't even listed among the 100 best in the league!

Pugger
05-14-2016, 08:53 AM
Perhaps it says more about the group compiling the list than anything else...

Patler
05-14-2016, 08:59 AM
Perhaps it says more about the group compiling the list than anything else...

Actually, I think the list is accurate. It is based on actual 2015 performance only, not their careers or projected future performance. .

Upnorth
05-14-2016, 09:21 AM
I agree with Rodgers missing. I wonder what they did for Matthews though. He played two different positions, and spent more time at ILB than OLB and I believe pff was charting him as a OLB for at least the first half of the season.

texaspackerbacker
05-14-2016, 09:58 AM
The whole list is a bunch of crap. What kind idiot passes off something like this as realistic anyway?

hoosier
05-14-2016, 10:57 AM
If it is 2015 only then I don't know that Sitton and Lang should be there either. Sitton was, by most accounts, pretty average last year.

Patler
05-14-2016, 11:26 AM
If it is 2015 only then I don't know that Sitton and Lang should be there either. Sitton was, by most accounts, pretty average last year.

Not according to their stats

pbmax
05-14-2016, 11:54 AM
Game Game Misc Misc Misc Misc
Rk Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Yrs PB AP1 AV
1 Von Miller 2015 26 1-2 DEN NFL 16 16 1 1 1 17
2 Thomas Davis 2015 32 1-14 CAR NFL 16 16 1 1 1 16
3 Luke Kuechly 2015 24 1-9 CAR NFL 13 13 1 1 1 15
4 Bobby Wagner 2015 25 2-47 SEA NFL 15 15 1 1 0 15
5 NaVorro Bowman 2015 27 3-91 SFO NFL 16 16 1 1 1 14
6 Derrick Johnson 2015 33 1-15 KAN NFL 16 16 1 1 0 14
7 Khalil Mack 2015 24 1-5 OAK NFL 16 16 1 1 1 14
8 Jamie Collins 2015 26 2-52 NWE NFL 12 12 1 1 0 12
9 Clay Matthews 2015 29 1-26 GNB NFL 16 16 1 1 0 12
10 Elvis Dumervil 2015 31 4-126 BAL NFL 16 16 1 1 0 11
11 Julius Peppers 2015 35 1-2 GNB NFL 16 16 1 1 0 11
12 Sean Lee 2015 29 2-55 DAL NFL 14 14 1 1 0 10
13 K.J. Wright 2015 26 4-99 SEA NFL 16 16 1 0 0 10
14 Anthony Barr 2015 23 1-9 MIN NFL 14 14 1 1 0 9
15 Preston Brown 2015 23 3-73 BUF NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9
16 Brian Cushing 2015 28 1-15 HOU NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9
17 Lavonte David 2015 25 2-58 TAM NFL 16 16 1 1 0 9
18 Demario Davis 2015 26 3-77 NYJ NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9
19 Tamba Hali 2015 32 1-20 KAN NFL 15 14 1 1 0 9
20 David Harris 2015 31 2-47 NYJ NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9


Out of position, he was the 12th best LB (ILB + OLB) according to approximate value. Unworried.

George Cumby
05-14-2016, 08:52 PM
Game Game Misc Misc Misc Misc
Rk Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Yrs PB AP1 AV
1 Von Miller 2015 26 1-2 DEN NFL 16 16 1 1 1 17
2 Thomas Davis 2015 32 1-14 CAR NFL 16 16 1 1 1 16
3 Luke Kuechly 2015 24 1-9 CAR NFL 13 13 1 1 1 15
4 Bobby Wagner 2015 25 2-47 SEA NFL 15 15 1 1 0 15
5 NaVorro Bowman 2015 27 3-91 SFO NFL 16 16 1 1 1 14
6 Derrick Johnson 2015 33 1-15 KAN NFL 16 16 1 1 0 14
7 Khalil Mack 2015 24 1-5 OAK NFL 16 16 1 1 1 14
8 Jamie Collins 2015 26 2-52 NWE NFL 12 12 1 1 0 12
9 Clay Matthews 2015 29 1-26 GNB NFL 16 16 1 1 0 12
10 Elvis Dumervil 2015 31 4-126 BAL NFL 16 16 1 1 0 11
11 Julius Peppers 2015 35 1-2 GNB NFL 16 16 1 1 0 11
12 Sean Lee 2015 29 2-55 DAL NFL 14 14 1 1 0 10
13 K.J. Wright 2015 26 4-99 SEA NFL 16 16 1 0 0 10
14 Anthony Barr 2015 23 1-9 MIN NFL 14 14 1 1 0 9
15 Preston Brown 2015 23 3-73 BUF NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9
16 Brian Cushing 2015 28 1-15 HOU NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9
17 Lavonte David 2015 25 2-58 TAM NFL 16 16 1 1 0 9
18 Demario Davis 2015 26 3-77 NYJ NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9
19 Tamba Hali 2015 32 1-20 KAN NFL 15 14 1 1 0 9
20 David Harris 2015 31 2-47 NYJ NFL 16 16 1 0 0 9


Out of position, he was the 12th best LB (ILB + OLB) according to approximate value. Unworried.

Yes, but I would be happier if he were back on the juice and knocking opposing QB's out of every other game......

PaCkFan_n_MD
05-14-2016, 10:56 PM
Devante Adams number 11001

pbmax
05-15-2016, 07:58 AM
Yes, but I would be happier if he were back on the juice and knocking opposing QB's out of every other game......

Sure. I would also be happier if AV didn't include the Pro Bowl :lol:

But let's agree with the premise, Matthews still makes that a much better defense even while inside. That's a heck of an accomplishment.

mraynrand
05-15-2016, 12:37 PM
Devante Adams number 11001

only if the NFL has 200 teams :wink:

Zool
05-15-2016, 02:59 PM
only if the NFL has 200 teams :wink:

Mmmmmmmmath

PaCkFan_n_MD
05-15-2016, 03:20 PM
Idiots are fun... No wonder every village wants one

PaCkFan_n_MD
05-15-2016, 03:57 PM
I just love how at one point this site had a section to basically post porn and another to say racist shit in and that's cool. I say one little thing like - Adams goes out of season (technically never wished a specific injury on him) and its shut your mouth. I'm only proving you have a fine line between what's acceptable and what's not. If "you" as in the "big dogs" find it okay then it's okay. Otherwise it's not. I actually have no problem with Adams and I actually like him. I hope he plays like he did in 2014 when he was actually good. I read all sections of this forum and I laugh sometimes. Was just testing a Theory and I was right. I'm done now carry on.

woodbuck27
05-15-2016, 04:09 PM
Actually, I think the list is accurate. It is based on actual 2015 performance only, not their careers or projected future performance. .

Yup.

Aaron Rodgers simply wasn't good all round in the second half of last season.

PaCkFan_n_MD
05-15-2016, 04:55 PM
Sent Zool and MTP a message that I don't like how rude I was to them. I'll just leave the forum

MadtownPacker
05-15-2016, 05:23 PM
Sent Zool and MTP a message that I don't like how rude I was to them. I'll just leave the forumThere is no need for that man. Everything is good and Im not worried about anything you said about me. This is all normal offseason stuff. I came at you hard and I'm not apologizing so why should you. Battles are for fighting lets just keep it in the thread it starts in is all.

Stop it Zool!! Haha!
http://cdn.dipity.com/uploads/events/32be0b25846c00cf01a6ef1a8f326e03_1M.png

woodbuck27
05-15-2016, 05:29 PM
There is no need for that man. Everything is good and Im not worried about anything you said about me. This is all normal offseason stuff. I came at you hard and I'm not apologizing so why should you. Battles are for fighting lets just keep it in the thread it starts in is all.

Stop it Zool!! Haha!


I LOVE this place. :glug:

An aside from the great game of football:

Of course.... I'm very loving right now with the huge Toronto Raptors dominating win today to advance to the Eastern Conference NBA Final Vs Cleveland.

That will be a great series if your interested.

woodbuck27
05-15-2016, 05:35 PM
Sent Zool and MTP a message that I don't like how rude I was to them. I'll just leave the forum

Hey Packer fan...sometimes a thing just gets a little too sensitive. Our pride gets smashed and we take it where it need not have gone.

In the history of Packerrats and other football forums it just gets right there.

It goes away and hopefully fully heals.

Sometimes it just keeps on a truckin'. You deal with it. :-|

PaCkFan_n_MD
05-15-2016, 05:43 PM
There is no need for that man. Everything is good and Im not worried about anything you said about me. This is all normal offseason stuff. I came at you hard and I'm not apologizing so why should you. Battles are for fighting lets just keep it in the thread it starts in is all.

Stop it Zool!! Haha!
http://cdn.dipity.com/uploads/events/32be0b25846c00cf01a6ef1a8f326e03_1M.png

Haha thanks man, I have my shit together now. Im going to put myself in timeout for a while. Didn't mean to mess things up. Truths with everyone.