Official Packers vs. Forty Whiners Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

Could see Rodgers (Aaron)

Could see Jordy

It'll be our only chance in the preseason to see what the Packers offense might look like.

The ILB position is kind of interesting. Bradford is a factor not too many thought he would be. Thomas trying to show he can be more than just a dime LB.

At OLB, would like to see Fackrell and Elliott do something.

At DL, just hoping Clark and Guion can make it to the regular season healthy. No depth there until Pennell comes back.

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.


Now with more post:

Jordy Nelson Always beats killer D (http://thekickassparodyproject.bandcamp.com/track/jordy-nelson-always-beats-killer-d)

[ThunderDan]

579

[George Cumby]

Man, the local media and fans are whining about the Niners and Kaepernick. Remember a few years ago when the doomsayers were telling us how he was the new standard of quarterbacking? Good times.

[pbmax]

579

This made my DAY!

[pbmax]

No Clark tonight:

Ryan Wood@ByRyanWood
#Packers 1st-round rookie DT Kenny Clark (back) did not travel with the team to San Francisco. Will miss third preseason exhibition.

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1m1 minute ago
#Packers inactives: Hundley, Ripkowski, Burnett, Ryan, Joe Thomas, Flores, Linsley, J. Walker, Janis, Henry, Nelson, Clark, Guion.

[Joemailman]

Mike Pennel going to get a lot of playing time.

[pittstang5]

No Clark tonight:

Ryan Wood@ByRyanWood
#Packers 1st-round rookie DT Kenny Clark (back) did not travel with the team to San Francisco. Will miss third preseason exhibition.

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1m1 minute ago
#Packers inactives: Hundley, Ripkowski, Burnett, Ryan, Joe Thomas, Flores, Linsley, J. Walker, Janis, Henry, Nelson, Clark, Guion.

Ripkowski? Joe Thomas? Guion? Why are they out? Did they get hurt? And what is wrong with Burnett? Has he played at all this preseason?

[ThunderDan]

Saw a Hispanic in the stands in a Packer jersey. Wonder if it is Mad?

[ThunderDan]

Wow, is the stadium 30% full?

[Pugger]

Anybody got an online stream of the game for the first hour?

[Joemailman]

Ripkowski? Joe Thomas? Guion? Why are they out? Did they get hurt? And what is wrong with Burnett? Has he played at all this preseason?

I'm guessing Guion is out because with Clark hurting, they want to make damn sure nothing happens to Guion. They should make idiot Pennel play every damned snap.

Burnett hasn't played at all including Family Night. His back has been bothering him.

[ThunderDan]

This made my DAY!

Rbaloha, where are you?

[ThunderDan]

Clay with the tackle from the backside.

[ThunderDan]

Ugh, shields beat deep. Luckily incomplete.

[pbmax]

Shields got beat.

Pack in nickel versus Chip Kelly.

Matthews crashes down the line like that and you want to run misdirection back at him.

[ThunderDan]

More Packer fans than 9ers fans?

[pbmax]

Hyde has to catch that, even if he gets hit in process. Take the penalty.

Can't believe it didn't roll OOB.

[pbmax]

I was going to bet a paycheck that was going to be a run.

[ThunderDan]

Boom, Arod to Cook for a 1st.

[red]

there, cook did it again

TE's are NOT suppose to keep running after they catch the ball

[pbmax]

Boom, Arod to Cook for a 1st.

Could be very fun on 3rd down and red zone this year.

[ThunderDan]

Arod behind Cook on the throw.

[pbmax]

O line not having good pass pro night since first throw.

Held ball too long. 2nd and 20.

Oh no, hands to face saves them.

Eddie still looks heavy.

[ThunderDan]

Another holding on the Pack? Nope illegal hands to the face.

[pbmax]

SWEET move by Adams with an up and under juke

[ThunderDan]

Great play by Adams.

[Joemailman]

Bad play by Cobb.

[pbmax]

Bad play by Cobb.

It was Monty I think.

[pittstang5]

flag fest....sloppy

[red]

Could be very fun on 3rd down and red zone this year.

at practice tuesday, they were moving cook all over the line in the redzone, showing all kinds of different looks

[ThunderDan]

That looked a lot better than it turned out.

[pbmax]

Still don't like this no huddle.

So much for fundamentals and winning one on ones.

[ThunderDan]

Horrible punt.

[pbmax]

Not a good Mortell punt, not good coverage.

[red]

flag fest....sloppy

and out of sync on offense

this is why you have to get some game time with your starting QB and the rest of the starters

practice isn't the same as game time

oh, and lacy looks fucking fatter then he did 3 days ago. i think its safe to say he's off the diet

[esoxx]

Does A-Rod ever just drop back and throw in sync with his WR's anymore? Every pass seems like a scramble drill. Just like last year.

[pbmax]

and out of sync on offense

this is why you have to get some game time with your starting QB and the rest of the starters

practice isn't the same as game time

Nope. I am becoming convinced that McCarthy has lost the thread of his own offense. That drive looked like every other drive last year. A lot of un-open receivers.

[ThunderDan]

579

[pbmax]

That was a play to cash in on OLB crashing down the line and losing contain.

[red]

Nope. I am becoming convinced that McCarthy has lost the thread of his own offense. That drive looked like every other drive last year. A lot of un-open receivers.

its just because jody still isn't in there

[pbmax]

Peppers lost contain again.

[ThunderDan]

Dix shot thru Martinez hole also didn't help.

[pbmax]

its just because jody still isn't in there

That is the definition of a bad offense then.

Defense just lost a receiver. Doesn't look good.

[pittstang5]

that was pathetic....even for a preseason game

[red]

not looking too good there boys

i don't know if this is the reason or not, but they were going at about 1/2 speed on tuesday, and a guy next to me was saying how they are half assing it even more then they have in the past because M3 is so terrified of injuries

[red]

That is the definition of a bad offense then.

Defense just lost a receiver. Doesn't look good.
thats what i was saying all last year

[ThunderDan]

That is the definition of a bad offense then.

Defense just lost a receiver. Doesn't look good.

Playing a Chip Kelly offense is all about being assignment sure.

[pbmax]

I am much less worried about Defense than the Offense. There is no film of Kelly in San Fran. Seeing unfamiliar plays will make a D look bad.

Much less happy about the O.


Studs and Duds:

Duds - Hyde

[pbmax]

thats what i was saying all last year

Last year everyone was hurt. At almost no time were the top 2 receivers (even when you do not count Nelson) healthy on the field (Cobb, Adams, Jones). Especially after 5th game.

This is the healthy, back to fundamental version.

[ThunderDan]

Lacy tackled by his dreads. Ouch!!

[red]

i love how we came back from that last break and gannon was throwing the WR's under the bus for not coming back to a-rod to give him someone to throw to

how bout we run some plays where guys don't have to break off their routes after 5 seconds and scramble

what happen to three steps and throw, or 5 steps and throw

[pbmax]

What was with that throw to Adams? Double clutch and off back foot.

[red]

Lacy tackled by his dreads. Ouch!!

i don't know why any player would wear their hair long, just gives the other guys something else to grab

[ThunderDan]

Good audible for the first.

[pbmax]

Even if he isn't lighter, Lacy looks like he is in better shape. Stronger and quicker.

[ThunderDan]

Great play action.

[pbmax]

Packers in pistol.

[ThunderDan]

Cobb crushed the jam.

[pbmax]

Man did that look better, of course the defender fell down.

[pbmax]

James! The cutback was one hole earlier!

[gbgary]

nice play to cobb

[Pugger]

We gotta score here...

[red]

well, we're still running out of play clock

[Pugger]

Thank goodness I can listen to tmj until 11

[red]

Man did that look better, of course the defender fell down.

cobb may have gotten away with a bit of a push off

[ThunderDan]

That's a horrible spot. Not a first but that was bad.

[Pugger]

Why do we do this????

[pbmax]

That looked like a single wing play.

[pbmax]

cobb may have gotten away with a bit of a push off

Veteran move.

[ThunderDan]

cobb may have gotten away with a bit of a push off

I don't think so. CB tried to jam and Cobb crushed him and had him off-balance. Easy to cast him off.

[Pugger]

I doubt we do this in the regular season

[red]

That's a horrible spot. Not a first but that was bad.

didn't seem like the line got any push

[pbmax]

What the hell was that? A quad count check with me snap?

[red]

we got a lot of work left to do before the season starts

[gbgary]

lol

[gbgary]

nice drive though.

[pbmax]

Cobb is crazy fearless. :)

[ThunderDan]

Great play by Arod. Saw 6 in the box and throws to Cobb.

[Joemailman]

Nope. I am becoming convinced that McCarthy has lost the thread of his own offense. That drive looked like every other drive last year. A lot of un-open receivers.

That drive looked better. Agree?

[ThunderDan]

Post shot that went through. Karma is changing in 2016?

[gbgary]

the o looks good.

[pbmax]

That drive looked better. Agree?

Not until the last 30 yards. Pass blocking did improve later in drive.

Still all running, penalties and holding onto the football at the beginning.

[Joemailman]

we got a lot of work left to do before the season starts

So does everybody. With starters playing less in the preseason, those Week 1 games now can be a little erratic.

[pbmax]

Nice job by D line staying home on Kaepernick.

[pbmax]

So does everybody. With starters playing less in the preseason, those Week 1 games now can be a little erratic.

I would buy this more if colleges didn't manage it. Not exactly apples to apples, but still.

[gbgary]

hawk seems faster this year.

[pbmax]

Rollins thought he had it.

[pbmax]

hawk seems faster this year.

:lol:

[ThunderDan]

Nice Perry got his hands up.

[pittstang5]

hawk seems faster this year.

LOL

[pbmax]

PERRY! CONTRACT DRIVE II!

Zone defense works. Shields gets hands on ball. He abandoned his zone to get there.

[red]

That drive looked better. Agree?

eh, not much

[ThunderDan]

Drop the INT and Shields has to play special teams.

[pittstang5]

Good series from D

[ThunderDan]

Callahan, all you have to do is step up.

[pbmax]

Callahan has to decide which way to move to avoid that rush. He went forward then back and got crushed.

[pittstang5]

Ha saw that coming

[gbgary]

ya know... grabbing the hair is the same thing as a horse collar.

[pbmax]

That kid from Wisconsin they signed after the center/long snapper injuries looks EXACTLY like Sitton.

Number #77

[pbmax]

ya know... grabbing the hair is the same thing as a horse collar.

Only one is illegal though.

[ThunderDan]

Two poor punts, but that was a bad snap.

[red]

did banjo just pull a hammy?

[gbgary]

pulled a hammy

[pbmax]

Its going to be Masthay again.

[red]

That kid from Wisconsin they signed after the center/long snapper injuries looks EXACTLY like Sitton.

Number #77

i thought he was sitton tuesday when he rode by on a bike

just younger looking

[pbmax]

I cannot believe roller derby is still a thing. :lol:

[pittstang5]

That kid from Wisconsin they signed after the center/long snapper injuries looks EXACTLY like Sitton.

Number #77

I thought Sitton changed his number

[pbmax]

did banjo just pull a hammy?

Yep.

[red]

no more banjo, too bad

[ThunderDan]

Datone puts Kapp down.

[TravisWilliams23]

ya know... grabbing the hair is the same thing as a horse collar.

Found this online:
There is not and will not be a penalty for pulling hair in the NFL. The "rule" is that if a players hair is long enough that it reaches the jersey, it's part of the uniform and can be used to pull the player down, therefore it's up to the player to keep their hair short.

[pbmax]

did banjo just pull a hammy?

Yep.

[pbmax]

Datone puts Kapp down.

He is the only Packer Defender who made plays against CK. Weird.

[pittstang5]

Perry = JJ SWATT 2.0

[pbmax]

Banjo will abide.

Punt return still stinks.

[gbgary]

they've got rookie wrs that can return punts. get Hyde out of there.

[ThunderDan]

Bad throw, good catch by Abby.

[ThunderDan]

Cook with some YAC.

[Joemailman]

eh, not much

You don't like touchdowns?

[pbmax]

Backup O line minus Walker.

[pbmax]

That is why Cook is still in there.

[ThunderDan]

Oops.

[gbgary]

Found this online:
There is not and will not be a penalty for pulling hair in the NFL. The "rule" is that if a players hair is long enough that it reaches the jersey, it's part of the uniform and can be used to pull the player down, therefore it's up to the player to keep their hair short.

but player safety wise it can have the same result as a horse collar. guess they'll wait for someone to get hurt.

[ThunderDan]

Mastabas wifi a good punt.

[pbmax]

The Head Ref is tongue-tied.

young-tied :roll:

[ThunderDan]

Mastabas wifi a good punt.

Auto-correct in mid-season form.

[pbmax]

Mastabas wifi a good punt.

If your lips are tingling, you should call 911 :lol:

[pbmax]

but player safety wise it can have the same result as a horse collar. guess they'll wait for someone to get hurt.

Yep. Then it will become a 4 game suspension with cell phone confiscation.

[pbmax]

Banjo and Elliot hurt. Tough night for Fuckdoggles.

[ThunderDan]

That should have been a hold in the end zone.

[gbgary]

holding in the end zone wasn't called.

[pbmax]

Brian Price #96 has a little pass rush at DT. He got in backfield twice. First one was near safety but Center came by to chip him to oblivion.

[ThunderDan]

Great concentration on the punt catch by Davis.

[gbgary]

Yep. Then it will become a 4 game suspension with cell phone confiscation.

yup

[ThunderDan]

Lots of players going down tonight.

[pbmax]

Lots of players going down tonight.

They had turf problem there, didn't they?

[pittstang5]

So close

[pbmax]

Shoulda had that.

[gbgary]

cook on the jordy slant.

[ThunderDan]

Adams has to catch that.

[Joemailman]

That was a hell of a throw by Dirty Harry.

[gbgary]

omg

[ThunderDan]

They had turf problem there, didn't they?

Yup, kicker snapped leg when his plant foot sunk 9 inches during a kick.

[pittstang5]

Banjo and Elliot hurt. Tough night for Fuckdoggles.
hamstring curse is back

[gbgary]

he's a pretty good qb.

[ThunderDan]

Yup, kicker snapped leg when his plant foot sunk 9 inches during a kick.

They might have cancelled a preseason game last year due to unsafe field conditions.

[pbmax]

Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 4m4 minutes ago
Packers report J. Elliott out with hamstring

Same with Banjo.

[pbmax]

They might have cancelled a preseason game last year due to unsafe field conditions.

I get their problems confused with the bad turf in Houston.


COOK! Mr. Slant.

[ThunderDan]

Cook looks really good. What were the Rams doing with him?

[pbmax]

Spriggs got a faceful of fist on that pass block. His guy one armed him.

[pbmax]

Cook looks really good. What were the Rams doing with him?

Death by Jeff Fisher QB. And coordinator named Schottenheimer.


Rodgers just doubled last year's YAC total.

[ThunderDan]

Kick the FG.

[pittstang5]

Holy shit - nice catch!

[wpony]

we only signed cook for 1 yr didnt we I really like him I hope tt wraps him up for longer during the season

[ThunderDan]

Wow, what a catch by Adams. How does he make that catch and drop the other?

[gbgary]

nice

[ThunderDan]

Kick the FG, please.

[pittstang5]

feels like they've been in the red zone for half an hour

[pittstang5]

now that was fuckin Stupid....You gotta throw it in the end zone.

[pbmax]

San Fran had that flat pass sniffed out from the get go. Throw was early too.

Cook is making himself an early fortune so far. Just needs to remain healthy.

[ThunderDan]

Other than one drive after a crappy punt the D has looked good. Numerous players able to rope Kap down on scrambles/runs.

[SMBASS]

Pretty bad call/play on 4th and goal from the 5. Agree Pittstang...you have to throw that one in the end zone. I'm liking a lot of things I've seen out of Callahan so far this preseason. For a Division III rookie he's not overwhelmed by the speed of the game and he seems to make pretty sound decisions most of the time.

[pbmax]

Pretty bad call/play on 4th and goal from the 5. Agree Pittstang...you have to throw that one in the end zone. I'm liking a lot of things I've seen out of Callahan so far this preseason. For a Division III rookie he's not overwhelmed by the speed of the game and he seems to make pretty sound decisions most of the time.

It had to be telegraphed because there were three defenders chasing him BEFORE he had the ball near him.

Someone had to be open.

[wpony]

they should have tried a running boot leg if no one was open he only need 4 wasnt it?

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 4m4 minutes ago
All four of Cook's first-half catches converted first downs. Three of them came on either third or fourth down #GBvsSF

[pbmax]

How do you overthrow 4.2 speed?

Davis must dive for it.

[ThunderDan]

Great play action.

[pbmax]

GERONIMO!

[gbgary]

fresh off the pup list montgomery returning kicks. wth

[pbmax]

Spriggs has a club?

[ThunderDan]

Two clubs on the O-line in at the moment.

[gbgary]

Crockett's a keeper.

[pbmax]

Crockett does find the hole pretty good.

[pbmax]

"Perillo trying to make this teams as a TE"

Would he have a better chance as a CB?

[wpony]

I think the Packers offense is going to be great this yr with Jordy back ,and Cook and have Richard Rodgers as the 2nd TE thyen other side we have Cobb with Abbedariss backing him up along with that fast rookiee we have our passing game should be awseme

[pbmax]

Nice pitch and catch between Dirty Harry and GERONIMO! Converts 4th and 9.

[ThunderDan]

Good pick up on 4th down.

[gbgary]

abby

[ThunderDan]

TD to Abby.

[pbmax]

I think Joe Callahan is Jeff Garcia reincarnated.

[gbgary]

trade hundley.

[wpony]

I really hoped TTsigns cook for multiple yrs during this yr so er have him locked up as long as we have Arod

[RashanGary]

Joe Callahan can play. He has a good head on his shoulders. Plays calm and in charge for a rookie. Natural. He plays up to the new level and plays up to speed. McCarthy likes him. I can tell. He's good and I think they're going to keep him. Decent arm too. Better than Garcia.

[wpony]

Great play reminds me of watching him play in Madison

[ThunderDan]

Short kickoff.

[wpony]

callahon does look good 1 yr on practice and running practice squad he would be right there and we could trade him to the afc :)

[ThunderDan]

Bradford with the stop.

[gbgary]

the butler did it.

[ThunderDan]

Callahan really turns to the RB early on this swing passes. If he looked that off for another half second he helps his RB out.

[pbmax]

Crockett is hurt.

[ThunderDan]

Barrington behind the WR. Good think it was dropped.

[pbmax]

Late flag. McCray with two nice plays. Pass rush is overwhelming RT.

[pbmax]

44 with spin move an made chipping RB and Murphy miss. No reason for Murphy to get beaten inside with a chip block there,

[pbmax]

Dorleant hurt.

[pbmax]

Lowry just got pushed back by a Double team.

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 10m10 minutes ago
John Crockett has a shoulder injury #GBvsSF

[pbmax]

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 26m26 minutes ago
Carl Bradford, a bubble player, just took a snap as the dime linebacker. That's new for him. Coaching staff wants to see what he can offer.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 10m10 minutes ago
John Crockett has a shoulder injury #GBvsSF

Too bad. I thought he ran well tonight. Less jitterbug and hesitation, more decisive.

I've watched the safety play from the TV broadcast. I think Brice has had a better game than Evans and Whitehead. You can see the athletic ability of Brice and Evans, but Brice has tackled very well and just looks like he belongs. Hawkins has been up and down at CB.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I want to see the Packers defense hold the opposing offense to under 200 yards for the third straight game.

[ThunderDan]

Good night all.

[HarveyWallbangers]

How many times have the Packers gone for it on 4th down tonight?

[pbmax]

Not sure how Callahan is still alive. And

GERONIMO!

[pbmax]

How many times have the Packers gone for it on 4th down tonight?

Almost once per drive. Has to be at least 4 times.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Almost once per drive. Has to be at least 4 times.

I looked it up. They've gone for it 6 times on 4th down. They've converted 5 of those.

[pbmax]

I looked it up. They've gone for it 6 times on 4th down. They've converted 5 of those.

Jersey Al - GBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 6m6 minutes ago
From all appearances, McCarthy's answer to the punting situation is to stop punting... #Packers

[pbmax]

Holy Fackrell nearly gets ponder and might have drawn a holding call.

[pbmax]

Man Fackrell and McCray nearly killed Ponder in a sandwich but he scooted forward at the last second.

[pbmax]

Ringo got a sack but Price and Fackrell got there first.

[pbmax]

Evans INT!

[wpony]

I really like Hundley i know he has been named number 2 and after watching him play his limited chance last week he looks great could even be ARS
future replacement and great back up now between Callahan and our other 3 QB and ourr 3 4string they both look good to i would keep one and after he goes through mikes back up QB training by next yr you could have great back up that might have yeas blowing up the phone just to get a chance at the boy maybe a shot to much coolaid but i dont think i am wrong what do you all think ?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Callahan won't make the team unless Hundley is hurt. Good candidate for the practice squad though. It doesn't always look pretty, but he's been much better than you'd expect out of DIII guy who nobody else had interest in.

[pittstang5]

What is with GB O-lineman and breaking hands. I saw a club on Spriggs hand. and Taylor had a club to start. Seems at least one o-lineman breaks or does something to their hand every training camp or preseason. Is this common for O-lineman or just Green Bay's luck....like hamstrings.

[Joemailman]

Nope. I am becoming convinced that McCarthy has lost the thread of his own offense. That drive looked like every other drive last year. A lot of un-open receivers.

Is it MM or Rodgers?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2016/08/27/unsettled-play-marks-rodgers-2016-debut/89422312/


Rodgers’ first pass was his best, a 19-yard slant to Cook on third-and-3 that showcased the newcomer’s impressive and consistent ability to separate from even a cover linebacker like Ray-Ray Armstrong.

His next three dropbacks, however, showed Rodgers at his worst.

Instead of remaining patient behind the Packers’ prized offensive line, standing tall and delivering the ball off his front foot, Rodgers kept trying to make something happen by extending plays when there appeared to be little or no reason to do so.

[Fritz]

Is it MM or Rodgers?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2016/08/27/unsettled-play-marks-rodgers-2016-debut/89422312/

I think I'm going to start a thread on this media thing.

[Pugger]

Man Fackrell and McCray nearly killed Ponder in a sandwich but he scooted forward at the last second.

I'd really like to see them do that against starters however...

[Pugger]

I really like Hundley i know he has been named number 2 and after watching him play his limited chance last week he looks great could even be ARS
future replacement and great back up now between Callahan and our other 3 QB and ourr 3 4string they both look good to i would keep one and after he goes through mikes back up QB training by next yr you could have great back up that might have yeas blowing up the phone just to get a chance at the boy maybe a shot to much coolaid but i dont think i am wrong what do you all think ?

I think Hundley is better than a handful of starters in this league. Callahan is scrappy looks pretty good for a D- rookie. I hope we can stash him on our PS.

[pbmax]

Is it MM or Rodgers?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2016/08/27/unsettled-play-marks-rodgers-2016-debut/89422312/

He did hold onto the ball too long a couple of times. Also a couple of times the line got beat in pass pro very early. Twice it was from the middle (might have been a stunt). So standing in wasn't really an option unless someone was just coming open. I also think he ran himself into trouble once.

But I also saw no one except Cook open early.

Is this about not being in sync? Maybe. Its also preseason.

So the thread I want to start about making a major change seems like a bad idea on almost all fronts. Except that long before Rodgers looked mortal, Nelson was hurt and Adams did not step up, McCarthy's no huddle offense has looked terrible since its first full introduction in 2014. I think teams have it figured out. So that leaves waiting for something deep to open up.

Nelson and maybe Cook are good enough to make that happen and solve the problem. But even if that and the running game make this an offense that can score, its no longer reliable in the short passing game. And its going to cost them versus a very good defense.

[pbmax]

The flip side of this is that the second drive looked much better and got Cobb involved.

But it doesn't look dominating. Something is wrong, like water in a crankcase.

[pbmax]

From Bob's game article that Joe and Fritz mention:


Davante Adams ran a nice sideline comeback route 12 yards downfield but Rodgers threw wide. He came back on third-and-2 with a 15-yard throw to a fast-breaking Cobb from the slot.

That route did work and the throw looked bad. Off his back foot for no obvious reason.

[Joemailman]

The flip side of this is that the second drive looked much better and got Cobb involved.

But it doesn't look dominating. Something is wrong, like water in a crankcase.

Maybe what's wrong is that without Jordy they don't have a true #1 receiver. Maybe we're still spoiled by what we had with Driver/Jennings/Jordy/James Jones/Finley. Maybe we have to accept that we won't likely see the likes of that again.

[pbmax]

I would prefer to have a counterfactual case. Run the old offense with these receivers to test.

[gbgary]

any news on the severity of crockett's shoulder injury?

[pbmax]

We speculated about this during the game, but the turf at Levi's stadium WAS bad.


According to one observer, the turf at Levi’s Stadium was loose and coming up and might have been the reason for both teams suffering multiple muscle-pull injuries.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2016/08/27/injuries-clouding-53-man-roster-evaluation/89476046/

Crockett-shoulder
Elliot-hamstring
Banjo-hamstring
Dorleant-hanstring (second of camp, said this one is different)
Springs-finger (came into game with injury, got worse in game, staff put him in club)

[Pugger]

If you go to packers.com there is a video of McCarren talking to Spriggs and Jason didn't seem to worried about his finger.

[esoxx]

That's because when he saw McCarren's finger he realized it could be much worse.

[pbmax]

That's because when he saw McCarren's finger he realized it could be much worse.

Just get the surgery Larry!

For everyone's visual sake!

[Rutnstrut]

Peppers lost contain again.

Peppers looked like shit yesterday. He is old,slow, and washed up.

[pbmax]

Peppers looked like shit yesterday. He is old,slow, and washed up.

Someone pointed out that he looked terrible in one preseason game last year as well. He is probably just saving his energy.

Without being asked to start (if that is still happening) I think he will be OK for one more year.

[Rutnstrut]

Someone pointed out that he looked terrible in one preseason game last year as well. He is probably just saving his energy.

Without being asked to start (if that is still happening) I think he will be OK for one more year.

I'm sure he was just saving himself for the regular season. Then he will take multiple plays off per game, at which time I'm sure will be to save himself for the playoffs.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Too bad. I thought he ran well tonight. Less jitterbug and hesitation, more decisive.

I've watched the safety play from the TV broadcast. I think Brice has had a better game than Evans and Whitehead. You can see the athletic ability of Brice and Evans, but Brice has tackled very well and just looks like he belongs. Hawkins has been up and down at CB.

Big praise from McGinn on Brice. He said there is no way the Packers are cutting Brice. He said he was the best player on the field in the 49ers game and said he's played like a 1st or 2nd round pick. I've never seen him so effusive about a UDFA before.

[RashanGary]

Big praise from McGinn on Brice. He said there is no way the Packers are cutting Brice. He said he was the best player on the field in the 49ers game and said he's played like a 1st or 2nd round pick. I've never seen him so effusive about a UDFA before.

It's an exciting preseason with Brice and Evans and Callahan. We say the roster is deep every year, but boy, it seems deep again.

[MadScientist]

Maybe what's wrong is that without Jordy they don't have a true #1 receiver. Maybe we're still spoiled by what we had with Driver/Jennings/Jordy/James Jones/Finley. Maybe we have to accept that we won't likely see the likes of that again.

No speed in the receiving corps. The only Packers receivers with any speed are Jordy who is coming off injury and getting old, and Janis who is injured and can't run good routes. Cook is about the only hope for the Packers, so this year again they might not be much of anything on offense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

No speed in the receiving corps. The only Packers receivers with any speed are Jordy who is coming off injury and getting old, and Janis who is injured and can't run good routes. Cook is about the only hope for the Packers, so this year again they might not be much of anything on offense.

As long as Jordy is healthy, I think this is silly. The year before we led the NFL in scoring while Rodgers completed 66% for almost 4400 yards with 38 TDs and 5 ints. The difference at skill position:

RBs were the same
Starting TE Andrew Quarless vs. Jared Cook (faster this year)
Backup TE is the same (and I think Rich Rod looks faster this year than he's been)
Top 3 WRs were the same
4th WR Jarret Boykin vs. Ty Montgomery or Abby (faster this year)

It wasn't just that Jordy was injured. Jordy, Monty, Cobb, Adams were all injured at one time or another. The OL had a lot of injuries. Eddie wasn't in good shape. The offense has a great chance to return to the top of the standings.

[Pugger]

No speed in the receiving corps. The only Packers receivers with any speed are Jordy who is coming off injury and getting old, and Janis who is injured and can't run good routes. Cook is about the only hope for the Packers, so this year again they might not be much of anything on offense.

Yes, the offense didn't look good on the first drive - mainly because of penalties. But Cobb looked like his old self without Jordy out there in the following drive. Adams dropped a couple of passes but when he is healthy at least he can get open. Abby runs decent routes and has ARod's trust. Monty is back. Cook looks like a nice upgrade over RRod. I have a feeling this year's offense will not be a repeat of 2015.

[Fritz]

Big praise from McGinn on Brice. He said there is no way the Packers are cutting Brice. He said he was the best player on the field in the 49ers game and said he's played like a 1st or 2nd round pick. I've never seen him so effusive about a UDFA before.

Agreed. Makes me wonder if McGinn has the inside dope that the Pack will cut the kid, so he's setting up to do one of his "outrage" articles when that happens.

[ThunderDan]

Someone pointed out that he looked terrible in one preseason game last year as well. He is probably just saving his energy.

Without being asked to start (if that is still happening) I think he will be OK for one more year.

I am not sure worse fault that was. While Peppers didn't set a hard edge, Dix went into the same gap that Martinez had. If Dix had outside contain be blew the run fit on that play.

[Harlan Huckleby]

As I recall, Peppers was sluggish in preseason last year. Maybe this is his MO.

[vince]

Big praise from McGinn on Brice. He said there is no way the Packers are cutting Brice. He said he was the best player on the field in the 49ers game and said he's played like a 1st or 2nd round pick. I've never seen him so effusive about a UDFA before.Brice and Evans might just make Janis expendable as far as coverage units go. Both seem to be strong tacklers and cover a lot of ground.

Hawkins has been decent as a corner but he's not shown up at all on ST. They've used him as a gunner at times and he's been completely dominated. He could be a keeper for the roster eventually but not this year. He'll need to make it to the PS and get himself ready to take another shot next year IMO. If somebody wants to take a shot on him and claim him then I'd wish him and them the best of luck with that. If they have any intent on him playing special teams that isn't likely to happen.

I think Burks brings more than Crockett too - other than a year's worth of experience which is worth something but not much at the 3rd RB in my opinion.

I too love Callahan, but also think it's worth the risk to cut him and bring him back on the PS. I'm not sure GM's take shots with undersized over-achieving undrafted rookies. It's usually the underachievers with all the measurables, physical tools and big upside potential GM's like to grab.

[gbgary]

No speed in the receiving corps. The only Packers receivers with any speed are Jordy who is coming off injury and getting old, and Janis who is injured and can't run good routes. Cook is about the only hope for the Packers, so this year again they might not be much of anything on offense.

i think our wrs have good speed and will be fine. actually catching the ball is more concerning than getting open.