2016 Official Cutdown to 53, 52 or maybe 51

[pbmax]

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
Roster reduction is underway for the #Packers. CB Warren Gatewood and QB Marquise Williams were released today, according to league sources.

I think Williams deserves another look on PS. But probably not before Callahan.

[vince]

Price has been cut bright and early this morning according to Cohen tweet.

[vince]

Players known to be released: (11).
Players known to be placed on injured reserve: (1)
Players on reserve / suspended list: (2)
Roster moves still needed to be made: (8)

Packers' roster moves:
CB Robertson Daniel (cut)
OLB Reggie Gilbert (cut)
LB Carl Bradford (cut)
OL Kyle Steuck (IR)
WR Herb Waters (cut)
RB Brandon Ross (cut)
FB Alstevis Squirewell (cut)
OG Lucas Patrick (cut)
TE Casey Pierce (cut)
DT Brian Price (cut)
CB Warren Gatewood (cut)
QB Marquise Williams (cut)

[vince]

Dead men walking:

1. Whitehead, Jermaine


5. Brown, Beniquez

Barring trades or FA/Waiver acquisitions, 6 of these guys will be cut or IR'd - 6 will make the team



4. Elliott, Jayrone


7. Perillo, Justin

9. Evans, Marwin
10. Ringo, Christian
11. Banjo, Chris
12. Davis, Trevor
13. Murphy, Kyle

14. Allison, Geronimo

16. Dorleant, Makinton
17. Kuder, Tyler

19. Burks, Brandon

22. Taylor, Lane

[pbmax]

If Lane Taylor continues to draw a check it will be a failure of depth that he wasn't replaced.

[vince]

If Lane Taylor continues to draw a check it will be a failure of depth that he wasn't replaced.
I agree. It seems they value experience over potential. I thought Price showed more than Ringo but it appears they're going with the experience and pushing potential to the PS.

[pbmax]

I agree. It seems they value experience over potential. I thought Price showed more than Ringo but it appears they're going with the experience and pushing potential to the PS.

Sometimes Ted goes with the guy least likely to get signed off waivers to stock the PS. That way Ted gets to have his cake (keep the vet) and eat it too (keep the youngster). It also makes the coaches happy they have the experience.

[Fritz]

Wait, wait. I thought the bitching was that Ted always kept the kids and didn't value vets enough, thus driving the coaches mad. When did this narrative change? Or are you just a renegade?

[pbmax]

Wait, wait. I thought the bitching was that Ted always kept the kids and didn't value vets enough, thus driving the coaches mad. When did this narrative change? Or are you just a renegade?

The vets he loses tend to be older and more expensive than Ringo. But in this case, he hopefully got to keep both.

EDIT: added hopefully. Hopefully this isn't a whammy.

[vince]

Steuck IR'd and Ross cut. Above lists updated.

[pbmax]

Steuck IR'd and Ross cut. Above lists updated.

He got hurt during Chiefs game. This kid is obviously very bright.

[pbmax]

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 14s15 seconds ago
Cornerback Josh Hawkins, an undrafted free agent, has been informed by the #Packers that he made the team, according to a league source.

As long as he isn't doing commentary, this kid can report.

[vince]

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 14s15 seconds ago
Cornerback Josh Hawkins, an undrafted free agent, has been informed by the #Packers that he made the team, according to a league source.

As long as he isn't doing commentary, this kid can report.
Nice. He's off the bubble list. I'd say there are a few more who could realistically be removed too (Gunter, Brice, Barrington, Janis) but we'll wait a bit longer to see if Teddy pulls a trade or something.

[pbmax]

The club cast might have been a ruse for Lucas Patrick to make it to PS. I bet it was healed two weeks ago.

[vince]

That or he too was milking it for an injury settlement at cutdown time...

What the hell was Herb Waters thinking?

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 36s36 seconds ago
The #Packers have cut ILB Carl Bradford, a source said.

[HarveyWallbangers]

My projections are blown before noon. Leave it to Ted!

[pbmax]

That or he too was milking it for an injury settlement at cutdown time...


I wonder if they sell those things at medical supply companies, or did he have a teammate help him in the AM?

[pbmax]

So Bradford gone leaves Martinez, Barrington, Ryan, and Thomas. They go with four?

Can Bradford get on PS?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Nice. He's off the bubble list. I'd say there are a few more who could realistically be removed too (Gunter, Brice, Barrington, Janis) but we'll wait a bit longer to see if Teddy pulls a trade or something.

If Janis gets cut, I am gonna drive right to Lambeau Field and protest.

J-Jan ain't a practice player but he shows up in games...kinda like Allen Iverson.

[vince]

If Lane Taylor continues to draw a check it will be a failure of depth that he wasn't replaced.
I think only one of Murphy or Taylor stick. I also think neither one is deserving. Murphy can't handle NFL edge speed yet and Taylor has somehow lost all ability to move in any lateral direction since last year. Also seemingly lost the ability to stand still and refrain from grabbing opponents outside torso area.

Back-up OL - Spriggs, Barclay and someone not currently on the roster perhaps... Not sure you can count on Linsley down the road this year. Twice-torn hammy? Not good.

[vince]

Breaking News: The Packers have decided not to keep 9 WR's this year and have cut Herb Waters.

[vince]

If Janis gets cut, I am gonna drive right to Lambeau Field and protest.

J-Jan ain't a practice player but he shows up in games...kinda like Allen Iverson.
I was suggesting he's probably not on the bubble, but have him on the list in case his existing injury might land him on IR if they think they can't possibly live without Geronimo.

[Harlan Huckleby]

What will people yell if Geronimo gets cut?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I was suggesting he's probably not on the bubble, but have him on the list in case his existing injury might land him on IR if they think they can't possibly live without Geronimo.

Geronimo appears to be a your typical preseason tease, you know, like the Boykins, the Gurleys, and the such. If he makes the team, great; underdog stories with happy endings are an excellent source of morale enhancement. If not? Not much of a loss.

[vince]

Not me. He's a big reliable target which has value but I'd say his ceiling is pretty low. IMO - Reliable possession receiver who will play unspectacularly in the league for many years - probably move around a lot. #3 receiver tops

[Anti-Polar Bear]

What will people yell if Geronimo gets cut?

Bombs away!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL_EXAyGCkw

[vince]

So Bradford gone leaves Martinez, Barrington, Ryan, and Thomas. They go with four?

Can Bradford get on PS?
Yeah I'd say they keep four. Bradford is PS eligible since he has no accrued seasons since he was inactive for all games his first year, and can be on the PS for 3 years with some qualifications that he and the team meet I believe.

[vince]

Barrington and Thomas are off the bubble.

Gunter, Brice and Janis as well.

[vince]

Daniel and Gilbert officially cut.

[Fritz]

What will people yell if Geronimo gets cut?


Anyone who grew up in the 60's knows that people will jump off a cliff and yell "Geronimo!" If he gets cut.

[vince]

Kentrell Brice confirmed made the team.

and JOE CALLAHAN has officially made the 53 per Silverstein.

Congrats Harlan.

[HarveyWallbangers]

TE Jace Amaro cut by NY Jets. Surprising to me.

[smuggler]

TE Jace Amaro cut by NY Jets. Surprising to me.

Not surprising at all if his shoulder isn't healthy. He missed more than a whole season thus far.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Anyone who grew up in the 60's knows that people will jump off a cliff and yell "Geronimo!" If he gets cut.

I was surprised to discover that the tradition goes back to 1941. But perhaps the LSD era was a peak of people jumping out of windows.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/01/where-the-tradition-of-yelling-geronimo-when-jumping-out-of-a-plane-came-from/

[HarveyWallbangers]

Not surprising at all if his shoulder isn't healthy. He missed more than a whole season thus far.

As a high draft pick, you'd think he'd get another year.

[vince]

Players known to be released: (12).
Players known to be placed on injured reserve: (1)
Players on reserve / suspended list: (2)
Roster moves still needed to be made: (8)

Packers' roster moves:
OL Josh Sitton
CB Robertson Daniel (cut)
OLB Reggie Gilbert (cut)
LB Carl Bradford (cut)
OL Kyle Steuck (IR)
WR Herb Waters (cut)
RB Brandon Ross (cut)
FB Alstevis Squirewell (cut)
OG Lucas Patrick (cut)
TE Casey Pierce (cut)
DT Brian Price (cut)
CB Warren Gatewood (cut)
QB Marquise Williams (cut)

[vince]

Dead men walking (not yet confirmed cut):

Whitehead, Jermaine
Brown, Beniquez

Barring trades or FA/Waiver acquisitions, 5 of these guys will be cut or IR'd - 6 will make the team

Elliott, Jayrone
Perillo, Justin
Evans, Marwin
Ringo, Christian
Banjo, Chris
Davis, Trevor
Murphy, Kyle
Allison, Geronimo
Dorleant, Makinton
Kuder, Tyler
Burks, Brandon
Taylor, Lane

[Harlan Huckleby]

I guess Passing Lane Taylor is penciled in. Wow.

[vince]

Can't wait to hear from Ted on this one. How can you explain cutting an All-Pro guard in favor of a guy who's played like Lane Taylor this camp.

Your PED theory is the only explanation I've heard that has any logic to it.

[vince]

More crow for me for taking Barrington off the bubble.

Bob McGinn reports that Sam Barrington is being cut and i'm reporting that Joe Thomas has made the 53-man roster. Lots of news popping up today.
by Tom Silverstein 2:25 PM

[vince]

Players known to be released: (15).
Players known to be placed on injured reserve: (2)
Players on reserve / suspended list: (3)
Roster moves still needed to be made: (3)

Packers' roster moves:
OL Corey Linsley (PUP)
WR Geronimo Allison (cut)
DL Tyler Kuder (IR)
LB Sam Barrington (cut)
OL Josh Sitton (cut)
CB Robertson Daniel (cut)
OLB Reggie Gilbert (cut)
LB Carl Bradford (cut)
OL Kyle Steuck (IR)
WR Herb Waters (cut)
RB Brandon Ross (cut)
FB Alstevis Squirewell (cut)
OG Lucas Patrick (cut)
TE Casey Pierce (cut)
DT Brian Price (cut)
CB Warren Gatewood (cut)
QB Marquise Williams (cut)

[vince]

Barring trades or FA/Waiver acquisitions, 3 of these guys will be cut or IR'd - 5 will make the team

Elliott, Jayrone
Perillo, Justin
Ringo, Christian
Davis, Trevor
Murphy, Kyle
Taylor, Lane
Brown, Beniquez
Whitehead, Jermaine

[vince]

Beniquez over Barrington too? Ted's doing some serious cap management.

Perhaps they're on the brink of re-signing Bakhtiari and need some space.

[vince]

Just got the word that S Marwin Evans made the 53-man roster. DL Tyler Kuder has an injury and may be put on IR.
by Tom Silverstein 3:00 PM

Banjo has made it also. Five safeties it looks like.
by Tom Silverstein 3:03 PM

Tom, that's 6 safeties including Hyde.

[pbmax]

I will not survive the Peyton ads this year. I need an app to block them. Or a remote I can use by blinking violently.

[vince]

Holy UDFA class...

RB Brandon Burks, CB Makinton Dorleant, DT Christian Ringo and CB LaDarius Gunter, all said that they have not been contacted and believe they are on the 53-man roster.
by Tom Silverstein 3:13 PM

[vince]

Long Snapper Swap

The Packers are releasing long-snapper Rick Lovato, per sources. Not sure if they're bringing back Brett Goode,... https://t.co/r3SpRu4XCj

[Harlan Huckleby]

if they're bringing back Brett Goode

My man!

[vince]

#Packers have released WR Geronimo Allison, per league source.
Ryan Wood

[vince]

I don't buy this.

Talked briefly with Josh Sitton and he told me that there was no showdown over his contract and that he was completely caught off guard with the call he received this morning. Said he assumed the team wanted to go with younger players and they just didn't plan on going forward with him.
by Tom Silverstein 3:51 PM

[pbmax]

#Packers have released WR Geronimo Allison, per league source.
Ryan Wood

GERONIMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Gonna miss him.

[pbmax]

I don't buy this.

Talked briefly with Josh Sitton and he told me that there was no showdown over his contract and that he was completely caught off guard with the call he received this morning. Said he assumed the team wanted to go with younger players and they just didn't plan on going forward with him.
by Tom Silverstein 3:51 PM

If true, not saying it is, but then its medical not contract.

[vince]

Makes sense.

Cutting Lovato but not signing Goode until Monday would allow them to sneak Davis onto the six-week IR.
by IllinoisPackerFan 4:23 PM

[run pMc]

Here's the roster:

QB (3): 12 Aaron Rodgers, 7Brett Hundley, 6 Joe Callahan
Released: 9 Marquise Williams

RB (4): 27 Eddie Lacy, 44 James Starks, 22 Aaron Ripkowski, 34Brandon Burks
Released: 46 Brandon Ross, 40 Alstevis Squirewell

WR (7): 87 Jordy Nelson, 18 Randall Cobb, 17 Davante Adams, 83Jeff Janis, 88 Ty Montgomery, 84 Jared Abbrederis, 11 Trevor Davis
Released: 81 Geronimo Allison, 16 Herb Waters

TE (3): 89 Jared Cook, 82 Richard Rodgers, 80 Justin Perillo
Released: 49 Casey Pierce

OL: (8): 70 T.J. Lang, 75 Bryan Bulaga, 73 JC Tretter, 69 David Bakhtiari, 78Jason Spriggs, 65 Lane Taylor, 67 Don Barclay, 68 Kyle Murphy
Physically unable to perform: 63 Corey Linsley
Released: 71 Josh Sitton, 62 Lucas Patrick
Injured reserve: 77 Kyle Steuck

DL (5): 76 Mike Daniels, 98 Letroy Guion, 97 Kenny Clark, 94 Dean Lowry, 99 Christian Ringo
Reserve/suspended: 64 Mike Pennel
Released: 96 Brian Price
Injured reserve: 90 Tyler Kuder

LB (9): 52 Clay Matthews, 56 Julius Peppers, 53 Nick Perry, 95Datone Jones, 91 Jayrone Elliott, 51 Kyler Fackrell, 47 Jake Ryan, 50Blake Martinez, 48 Joe Thomas
Released: 58 Sam Barrington, 54 Carl Bradford, 93 Reggie Gilbert, 43Beniquez Brown

CB (6): 37 Sam Shields, 23 Damarious Randall, 24 Quinten Rollins, 36LaDarius Gunter, 28 Josh Hawkins, 20 Makinton Dorleant
Reserve/suspended: 39 Demetri Goodson
Released: 31 Robertson Daniel, 26 Warren Gatewood

S (6): 42 Morgan Burnett, 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, 33 Micah Hyde, 32Chris Banjo, 29 Kentrell Brice, 25 Marwin Evans
Released: 35 Jermaine Whitehead

Spec (2): 2 Mason Crosby, 10 Jake Schum
Released: 59 Rick Lovato

by Tom Silverstein 6:02 PM

[pbmax]

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 3m3 minutes ago
#Packers also released LB Beniquez Brown, LS Rick Lovato and S Jermaine Whitehead. The cutdown process is complete.

[Harlan Huckleby]

OL: (8): 70 T.J. Lang, 75 Bryan Bulaga, 73 JC Tretter, 69 David Bakhtiari, 78Jason Spriggs, 65 Lane Taylor, 67 Don Barclay, 68 Kyle Murphy

My prediction exactly. Unfortunately my post was lost due to that incompetent illegal immigrant.

[smuggler]

Basically going to resign Lovato after putting someone on IR.

[pbmax]

Howard Balzer ‏@HBalzer721 7m7 minutes ago
Packers, who waived Rick Lovato, leaving them without a long snapper, reported a tryout with LS Brett Goode.

[vince]

Six UDFA rookies to go with all six draftpicks. That's gotta be historically significant.

Captain Obvious expresses concern over the OL depth. The rest of the team looks really complete - especially when Pennel returns in a month.

12 DB's and 3 ILB's.

I think we'll see a lot of Burnett, Hyde and Evans (to the extent he sees the field) playing the new hybrid role up in the box.

[Guiness]

Couple of these numbers are pretty skewed. I expect some moves in the near future, -1 or 2 WR, -2 Safeties, +1 OL, +1 RB, +1LS!

[vince]

Pretty eventful day I'd say. Should be an interesting season!

[vince]

Couple of these numbers are pretty skewed. I expect some moves in the near future, -1 or 2 WR, -2 Safeties, +1 OL, +1 RB, +1LS!
Davis to IR. Add a long snapper back in. What's the speculation on the two safeties? I don't see any of that group going anywhere.

It would be great if Burks and/or Murphy get upgraded and those two are demoted but those are net zero to the positions....

[Guiness]

Davis to IR. Add a long snapper back in. What's the speculation on the two safeties? I don't see any of that group going anywhere.

It would be great if Burks and/or Murphy get upgraded and those two are demoted but those are net zero to the positions....

12DBs though? I know it's a pass happy league, but wow.

[vince]

12DBs though? I know it's a pass happy league, but wow.
A bunch of fast and aggressive ST guys for the foreseeable future, plus I think we're seeing some evolution toward a new defensive wrinkle with LB/S tweeners playing up in run support, slot/inside zone pass defenders. blitzers and overall playmakers swarming to the ball. A bunch of these guys have skills to fit that bill.

[HarveyWallbangers]

A bunch of fast and aggressive ST guys for the foreseeable future, plus I think we're seeing some evolution toward a new defensive wrinkle with LB/S tweeners playing up in run support, slot/inside zone pass defenders. blitzers and overall playmakers swarming to the ball. A bunch of these guys have skills to fit that bill.

I'm not sure Morgan Burnett is up to playing the Deone Bucannon role, but Arizona has been successful with this scheme. Copycat league.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 34m34 minutes ago
Worth noting: @CarlBradford54, who made #Packers 53 (but was 16-game inactive) in '14 and was on practice squad in '15 is still PS eligible.

[Patler]

12DBs though? I know it's a pass happy league, but wow.

Teams have now gone beyond dime defenses, and use 7 DBs at one time. We might start seeing 8 or 9 DBs active on game days. Having 10-12 on the roster may become the norm.

Hyde will be a free agent next year. He brings a lot of versatility to the team, but the Packers now potentially have his replacements at CB, S, punt return and kickoff return if they decide to let him go.

Burnett and Shields will be free agents after the 2017 season. Both have had more than their shares of injuries. I doubt either will see another GB contract, and if the young guys work out, one or both of Shields and Burnett could be gone next year. If Shields holds true to form, he will miss at least a couple games this year. Do we even know if Burnett is ready to play now?

Banjo is there for STs and is very replaceable otherwise.

If a team finds DBs they think have shots at being capable starters, they really have to keep them. GB may have even more reasons to do so than some other teams.

[pbmax]

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/32977/the-packers-will-have-a-long-snapper-after-all-brett-goode-to-re-sign

Goode is coming back. Article says signing today.

[red]

well tt's udfa fetish is alive and well with over 10% of this years squad being made up of udfa rookies

hoorah

[Patler]

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/32977/the-packers-will-have-a-long-snapper-after-all-brett-goode-to-re-sign

Goode is coming back. Article says signing today.

I expect Davis or Dorleant will go on IR to make room. Either would then be eligible for recall if needed. Absent injuries to others, neither is likely to be active on game days anyway, so stashing one on IR makes roster sense. Both looked to have significant injuries, especially Davis.

[pbmax]

I expect Davis or Dorleant will go on IR to make room. Either would then be eligible for recall if needed. Absent injuries to others, neither is likely to be active on game days anyway, so stashing one on IR makes roster sense. Both looked to have significant injuries, especially Davis.

Isn't there a start date on the IR now to be eligible for returning? Is it now or after the Week 1 games?

[Patler]

Isn't there a start date on the IR now to be eligible for returning? Is it now or after the Week 1 games?

I am fairly certain that the only requirement is that the player was part of the 53 man roster after the final cutdown yesterday.

[Fritz]

Oh...that splains why they weren't IR'd previously.

But do you really think you'd use that return designation for either of those untested rooks?

This is some weird roster shit going down. I hope one of their 23 defensive backs can play nose tackle, and maybe one of the 14 wide receivers can play guard.

[Patler]

Oh...that splains why they weren't IR'd previously.

But do you really think you'd use that return designation for either of those untested rooks?


They no longer have to designate a player for return, they can just use it on any eligible IR'd player they decide . My point was that they can use it for them if they need to later in the season if they lose a bunch of WRs or DBs.

[Fritz]

[QUOTE=Patler;893844]They no longer have to designate a player for return, they can just use it on any eligible IR'd player they decide . My point was that they can use it for them if they need to later in the season if they lose a bunch of WRs or DBs.[/Q UOTE]


So are you saying you can deactivate as many IR'd players as you want?

[Patler]

They no longer have to designate a player for return, they can just use it on any eligible IR'd player they decide . My point was that they can use it for them if they need to later in the season if they lose a bunch of WRs or DBs.


So are you saying you can deactivate as many IR'd players as you want?

No, just one player can be brought back, if that's what you are asking.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Breaking News:

Packers claimed RB Jhurell Pressley, formerly of the Vikings.

Is he fast? What's his speed rating on Madden? I hope he's fast.

[Guiness]

A bunch of fast and aggressive ST guys for the foreseeable future, plus I think we're seeing some evolution toward a new defensive wrinkle with LB/S tweeners playing up in run support, slot/inside zone pass defenders. blitzers and overall playmakers swarming to the ball. A bunch of these guys have skills to fit that bill.

Unsound!

lol, jk, I think this could be what's up. I do think, however, that when the Pack plays teams with big backs, this approach could cause trouble. That that AP is likely to have another 200 yard game (or two) vs them.

12DBs and 7WRs, heck of a track team.

[pbmax]

Unsound!

lol, jk, I think this could be what's up. I do think, however, that when the Pack plays teams with big backs, this approach could cause trouble. That that AP is likely to have another 200 yard game (or two) vs them.

12DBs and 7WRs, heck of a track team.

soft 'n small

[pbmax]

Breaking News:

Packers claimed RB Jhurell Pressley, formerly of the Vikings.

Is he fast? What's his speed rating on Madden? I hope he's fast.

They dumped Burks to get him on the roster and Burks is not, if Packer Twitter is to be believed, a candidate for the PS.

[pbmax]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/04/with-josh-sitton-gone-packers-take-a-look-at-blake-muir/


Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Packers gave Blake Muir a tryout on Sunday.

The former 49er is an Australian native, who played college football at Baylor. He was signed by the 49ers after going undrafted.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Dorleant goes on IR to make room for Brett Goode.