Who Is Leaving At The End of the Season?

[pbmax]

This article is written as though the QB in question is about to be run out of town on a rail.

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/33630/no-one-feels-worse-nothing-awkward-to-packers-coaches-critique-of-aaron-rodgers

Its like reading quotes about Tyrod Taylor from Bills coaches, or a coach who has had to employ a McCown or McNown at QB after an injury to the actual starter. "We know he wants to quit making mistakes..."

I only know a few things. I know future injuries at key positions (watch out for Stafford this week) and my Word A Day calendar from 1989. But I also know that Aaron Rodgers might be 33rd on a list of people that Ted will run out of town due to an underperforming offense.

Time to step forward: Who is most likely to be asked to leave at the end of the season, Aaron, Mike or Ted?

[Fritz]

Okay, this is my confession: I am hoping the Packers win the SB this year, and follow that up by trading Aaron Rodgers to the LA Rams.

He's wearing on me. I used to like the guy, but he's gotten defensive and touchy and seems to feel, if the presser is to be taken at face value, that he'll condescend to do some damn drills for the sake of the team, but really, he's kinda above that. Oh, and that he'll step up and be a leader and take responsibility - even if, you know, it's really not all his fault.

I think Rodgers has gotten a little too used to being unquestioned, and thus overly defensive. His play has slipped - tell me what you want about why it hasn't, but I don't buy the idea that somehow he's the same guy we saw even two years ago - but he doesn't want to hear it. I see what's happening to him as similar to what happened to Favre. Bigger than the team.

So I hope the team wins it all, and I hope they ship Rodgers away afterward for a boatload of high draft picks. I think MM would be rejuvenated working with a young QB again, and I believe Hundley has the talent to take this team to a SB.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Okay, this is my confession: I am hoping the Packers win the SB this year, and follow that up by trading Aaron Rodgers to the LA Rams.

He's wearing on me. I used to like the guy, but he's gotten defensive and touchy and seems to feel, if the presser is to be taken at face value, that he'll condescend to do some damn drills for the sake of the team, but really, he's kinda above that. Oh, and that he'll step up and be a leader and take responsibility - even if, you know, it's really not all his fault.

I think Rodgers has gotten a little too used to being unquestioned, and thus overly defensive. His play has slipped - tell me what you want about why it hasn't, but I don't buy the idea that somehow he's the same guy we saw even two years ago - but he doesn't want to hear it. I see what's happening to him as similar to what happened to Favre. Bigger than the team.

So I hope the team wins it all, and I hope they ship Rodgers away afterward for a boatload of high draft picks. I think MM would be rejuvenated working with a young QB again, and I believe Hundley has the talent to take this team to a SB.

Trade Rodgers to the Rams for Goff and a conditional 2nd rounder. :)

[pbmax]

If its that bad with him, and it was pretty bad last week, do you play Hundley?

Or do you ride Rodgers through Week 16, a WC playoff loss and then trade him to Jeff Fisher?

BTW, an offensive player traded to Jeff Fisher is the "we'll send you to Green Bay" motivational technique of the 21st century.

[Maxie the Taxi]

If they traded Arod to the LA Rams, then he'd for sure be running a West Coast Offense, right?

[pbmax]

If they traded Arod to the LA Rams, then he'd for sure be running a West Coast Offense, right?

A Chuck Knox version, but yes.

[Maxie the Taxi]

A Chuck Knox version, but yes.LOL. I guess I'll either have to make my puns better or forget them altogether! I was thinking "LA" ... "West coast?" ...

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Murphy and the Packers' capitalist pigs, err, board of directors oughtta ask Thompson to retire. Regardless of this season's outcome, the ole Polar Bear should call it a career, and with his millions in the bank, go back to ole Texas to herd sheep peacefully on ole Brokeback Mountain.

If Thompson refuses to retire, fire him.

Time for the Packers to hire someone who can, competently, utilize ALL aspects of the game - the draft, free agency and the trade market.

Fire McCarthy also and hire J-Mac from NE to run the whole she-bang.

[texaspackerbacker]

No choice of "none of the above"?

It is patently RIDICULOUS to even suggest getting rid of Aaron Rodgers - for anything less than the Herschel Walker trade X about 5.

Dumping McCarthy wouldn't bother me, but no way it's happening. Dumping Ted would please me, but no way that's happening either - unless he just decided on his own to retire.

Who the hell is "J-Mac"?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

No choice of "none of the above"?

It is patently RIDICULOUS to even suggest getting rid of Aaron Rodgers - for anything less than the Herschel Walker trade X about 5.

Dumping McCarthy wouldn't bother me, but no way it's happening. Dumping Ted would please me, but no way that's happening either - unless he just decided on his own to retire.

Who the hell is "J-Mac"?

Josh McDaniels, or as Bretsky is fond of saying, "Hoody Genius, Jr."

McDaniels is one arrogant motherfucker. 1st day on the job in Denver, told Cutler he sucked, that Brady was so-so til he showed up. Perhaps the Denver ordeal humbled the guy a bit.

Belichick is the greatest GM/Coach of this century. J-Mac holds a PhD in Belichickology.

[Maxie the Taxi]

It really is sorta funny. Two games into the season and we're firing everybody above corporal....not that there's anything wrong with that! Good thing we beat the Jags or there would be dogs lying dead in the street up there.

[pbmax]

LOL. I guess I'll either have to make my puns better or forget them altogether! I was thinking "LA" ... "West coast?" ...

No, I got you. :)

But Jeff thinks the pass game is just a fad. Like Chuck did.

[Pugger]

Seriously?? :lol:

[Maxie the Taxi]

Seriously?? :lol:YES!!!!! :bang: no :jig: I'm kinda bi-polar.

[Fritz]

It really is sorta funny. Two games into the season and we're firing everybody above corporal....not that there's anything wrong with that! Good thing we beat the Jags or there would be dogs lying dead in the street up there.


True, true, Max. But part of the fun of being a fan is being able to overreact and make wild statements no one will remember, or will hardly remember, later on - unless your wild statements somehow turn out to be true, in which case you simply remind everyone forever and ever that you were right once; therefore, you know more than other fans.

I know my own statement about Rodgers is over the top. And of course, if he were being completely arrogant and playing great football, I undoubtedly would not care so much about his attitude.

I just think that when you're making the kind of money he is - compared not to us plebes, but to other NFL players - you're making that kind of dough because you're otherworldly talented - and you're the face of the franchise, so you're expected to lead. So you ought to earn your pay. And if you aren't playing otherworldly, then you better be leading in an otherworldly fashion. And Rodgers is not only not doing that, he's sounding like a whiny seventh grader.

[Guiness]

It really is sorta funny. Two games into the season and we're firing everybody above corporal....not that there's anything wrong with that! Good thing we beat the Jags or there would be dogs lying dead in the street up there.

Agreed Maxie - the poll needs a 'fuck off with the stupid questions already' option.

[Maxie the Taxi]

True, true, Max. But part of the fun of being a fan is being able to overreact and make wild statements no one will remember, or will hardly remember, later on - unless your wild statements somehow turn out to be true, in which case you simply remind everyone forever and ever that you were right once; therefore, you know more than other fans.

I know my own statement about Rodgers is over the top. And of course, if he were being completely arrogant and playing great football, I undoubtedly would not care so much about his attitude.

I just think that when you're making the kind of money he is - compared not to us plebes, but to other NFL players - you're making that kind of dough because you're otherworldly talented - and you're the face of the franchise, so you're expected to lead. So you ought to earn your pay. And if you aren't playing otherworldly, then you better be leading in an otherworldly fashion. And Rodgers is not only not doing that, he's sounding like a whiny seventh grader.Actually, I agree 100%. I've said things similar myself.

He said in his presser that he doesn't care one iota about what his critics say, but you can't tell me he doesn't read his own press clippings. They're everywhere. I think Arod will use the criticism to prove to the world he's not washed up. He'll keep it like a chip on his shoulder, like he did when he got drafted so late.

I'm more worried about Stubby turning his game around than Arod.

[Fritz]

Well, I can't necessarily disagree. McMike's not exactly tearing it up since he retook the coordinator's job back.

If Rodgers needs a chip on his shoulder to play well, then, okay - Rodgers sucks. It's his fault the offense sucks. He's not that great. He's over the hill already.

Okay, that ought to do the trick.

Now how can we get Stubby motivated...?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Well, I can't necessarily disagree. McMike's not exactly tearing it up since he retook the coordinator's job back.

If Rodgers needs a chip on his shoulder to play well, then, okay - Rodgers sucks. It's his fault the offense sucks. He's not that great. He's over the hill already.

Okay, that ought to do the trick.

Now how can we get Stubby motivated...?Set red up with his daughter?

[Fritz]

Brilliant idea.

Man up, Red.

Here she is.

https://puckingsports.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screen-shot-2012-09-26-at-1-03-56-pm.png?w=700&h=

[Guiness]

Things google shows up with...

http://www.mike-mccarthy.com/

[pbmax]

https://t.co/eQXUVETiS6

Five Thirty Eight with a breakdown of Rodgers breakdown. Occurred almost immediately after his 100th regular season game.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtEOLPjWgAAwaCQ.jpg:large

[Maxie the Taxi]

^^^I swear that graph is the same one the English scientist used to prove global warming exists.

[pbmax]

^^^I swear that graph is the same one the English scientist used to prove global warming exists.

Every dot is his yards per drop back in each game of his career starting in 2008.

The red line denotes trailing eight game average for each game after his eighth start. He stopped having great numbers around game 103, had fewer average games and many more below average games.

He hasn't gotten to 8 yards per drop back or above since Game 106 (versus NE). Games 103 and 106 make 100-110 look pretty normal. Then the bottom falls out OR the top caves in I guess.

Games 100-110 largely made up the backend of the 2014 season. Notable only for clunker versus Buffalo (Game 108). However season opened with terrible performance against the Seahawks (Game 95) and a low scoring loss to Detroit (Game 97). Playoff game included win versus Schroedinger's Wide Receiver Dez Bryant and a certain Seattle playoff game.

2014 was the year of the calf injury oddly enough, given its his most recent remarkable season.

I have a feeling the chart might be slightly shifted in respect to games listed at PFR as his worst game here in 100-110 range is 101 (Carolina-11.59 non adjusted YPA) and 110 (10.27 YPA versus Detroit).

[Joemailman]

Thompson will be gone. He won't be fired. He'll retire.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Every dot is his yards per drop back in each game of his career starting in 2008.

The red line denotes trailing eight game average for each game after his eighth start. He stopped having great numbers around game 103, had fewer average games and many more below average games.

He hasn't gotten to 8 yards per drop back or above since Game 106 (versus NE). Games 103 and 106 make 100-110 look pretty normal. Then the bottom falls out OR the top caves in I guess.

Games 100-110 largely made up the backend of the 2014 season. Notable only for clunker versus Buffalo (Game 108). However season opened with terrible performance against the Seahawks (Game 95) and a low scoring loss to Detroit (Game 97). Playoff game included win versus Schroedinger's Wide Receiver Dez Bryant and a certain Seattle playoff game.

2014 was the year of the calf injury oddly enough, given its his most recent remarkable season.

I have a feeling the chart might be slightly shifted in respect to games listed at PFR as his worst game here in 100-110 range is 101 (Carolina-11.59 non adjusted YPA) and 110 (10.27 YPA versus Detroit).God bless you, my son, for your effort and explanation, but it is lost on me.

Honestly, it really looks like my last eletrocardiagram.

[red]

Brilliant idea.

Man up, Red.

Here she is.

https://puckingsports.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screen-shot-2012-09-26-at-1-03-56-pm.png?w=700&h=

if thats his daughter

then i'll take one for the team

[Joemailman]

if thats his daughter

then i'll take one for the team

Just don't get mad if she calls you Stubby.

[Bretsky]

BYE TED

[Radagast]

Hit the road Ted, and don't you look back no more, no more, no more, no more. Hit the road Ted, and don't you look back no more .

:violin::rs::clap:

[Fritz]

if thats his daughter

then i'll take one for the team

Yes, Red, that is her. But Torrance Marshall's girlfriend says MM's daughter likes to wear strap ons and be the dominant one.

You still up for the challenge?

Just close your eyes and think of McCarthy changing up the offense.

[pbmax]

Now this is a PackerRats thread.

1. Panic
2. Speculation
3. Torrance Marshall's girlfriend
4. Strap-ons

I don't understand why this place isn't as big as Yahoo!

[pbmax]

Fritz also had a good football point earlier.

Does anyone now blame Tom Clements for what happened last year?

[Fritz]

Fritz also had a good football point earlier.

Does anyone now blame Tom Clements for what happened last year?

I had a good football point?

Well, now we know the world really is ending soon.

[hoosier]

Clements is clearly to blame. He broke Rodgers so badly that even the offensive genius isn't able to put him back together again properly. Clements enabled the stubborn streak in Rodgers and allowed it to mingle with the skittishness and declining skills, and the results have been dismal. At least Clements will never get the Joe Philbin opp now.

[Fritz]

I want to know why Harlan Huckleby was not a choice in the "Who Is Most Likely to Be Asked to Leave at the End of the Season?" poll.

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 21m21 minutes ago
Also, MM said time of possession and field position are more important than being No. 1 in scoring. What correlation is there to winning?

Those three things aren't directly comparable. One is a rank, one is an average and the other is a cumulative number.

Field position is huge, just ask the Texans. Or the Packers.

Time of possession is meaningless and runs against his current offense's hurry up mode to stress a defense. This reads like an excuse to go Chuck Knox.

No 1 in scoring is nice but hardly necessary. In fact, there is a pretty impressive streak going on that teams that win the Super Bowl have better Defenses than Offenses.

I think either the Packers need to fire their numbers guy OR get McCarthy to statistics class.

[King Friday]

Can we get that chart updated now...we need the arrow pointing up.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Can we get that chart updated now...we need the arrow pointing up.

The milf in that viagra commercial made my arrow point up.

[Zool]

I want to know why Harlan Huckleby was not a choice in the "Who Is Most Likely to Be Asked to Leave at the End of the Season?" poll.

because no one has to ask

[Upnorth]

Teds dead baby, teds dead.

Seriously though, he has his sucsessor in place, were good.

also I like me some tarintino

[red]

the good news is that if TT leaves then the new GM (wolf) will probably want his own HC to give him tug jobs every day

we need new blood, this staff has past its expiration date and have gone stale

plus, i believe the super bowl window is closed on it (like i have said many times in the past)