More Banjo: Week 13 vs Texans

[pbmax]

Not a clean game. Packer's Offense was good early and late and not much in between. Defense allowed a lot or running room out the outside and on 3rd downs.

Ryan is back but all LBs are banged up and playing less than 100%. Pass rush is not working when its a four man unit. Need health and Martinez.

McCarthy said they did adjust the run game in second half, but that seems to have meant Monty followed by Christine followed by Janis.

Those 2nd and 3rd down runs with a short distance to go were a disaster. McCarthy was clearly worried about putting the onus in Rodgers and then had to do it at the end anyway. He always trusts the backups to do the job until its obvious they can't.

The good news is that he does tend to abandon the pedantry versus very good competition. Hopefully Rodgers leg is better this week.

[Joemailman]

Those had to about the worst playing conditions imaginable for a guy playing on a bad hamstring. It will be cold next week, but a dry field would be a big help.

On a failed 3rd and 1 in the 1st quarter, I thought Starks cut outside when there was a lane inside. Anybody else see that?

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 48m48 minutes ago
Rodgers on @AaronRipkowski: Just a downhill, tough football player. Really proud of the way he's progressed. He's a guy you can count on.

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 54m54 minutes ago
Rodgers on long drives: For us to be able to put together two drives for over 180 yards of offense was pretty special. #HOUvsGB #GoPackGo

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 55m55 minutes ago
Rodgers on the snow: As a thrower you like perfect conditions, but as a football fan you love these games -- Lambeau Field in the winter.

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 57m57 minutes ago
Rodgers on the hamstring: It's feeling all right. We'll see how it feels tomorrow. I feel good about where I'm at.

[pbmax]

Those had to about the worst playing conditions imaginable for a guy playing on a bad hamstring. It will be cold next week, but a dry field would be a big help.

On a failed 3rd and 1 in the 1st quarter, I thought Starks cut outside when there was a lane inside. Anybody else see that?

Yeah, I don't know what spooked him about that but he just needed to hit the hole. Ripper had a run later on 4th and 2 where the opposite needed to happen. That is the problem with such an intermittent run game.

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h1 hour ago
McCarthy on @AaronRodgers12: He's playing great football. Deserves a lot of credit. He's an outstanding leader. #HOUvsGB #GoPackGo

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h1 hour ago
McCarthy on if Jordy Nelson/Aaron Rodgers chemistry is "back": Definitely. I don't know how much more Jordy needs to prove. #HOUvsGB

Green Bay Packers ‏@packers 1h1 hour ago
McCarthy: Can't say enough about Clay Matthews, Nick Perry & Jake Ryan for battling through (injuries). #HOUvsGB #GoPackGo

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[beveaux1]

I'm afraid that at this point Starks is not much of an option in the running game. He still has some effect in the screen game. I believe we'll start seeing more plays with Michael involved since his quickness advantage is apparent. What's holding him back is MM and Rodgers not trusting his blocking and...being unfamiliar with the plays. Monty is becoming more of an option running the ball, he hits a hole quick and he recognizes where the hole is. He's so dynamic receiving that his lack of blocking is not as big a problem.

I'm starting to really like our receivers. Adams, Nelson, and Cobb are dynamic and starting to look like one of the best receiver trios in football. R Rodgers looks better now that Cook is active. This is a good receiver group.

The OL has been great at protecting AR all year. Actually, this game continued a string of excellent performances. Overall, our offense is the least of our problems.

Unfortunately, the defense remains a work in progress. With Ryan and Martinez at close to 100%, we're a very hard team to run on. With them playing at less than 100%, or missing one or the other, we are average, at best, against the run

Without Matthews at 100%, we have to blitz to get any pressure on opposing QBs. This exposes holes in our very porous zone defense. A good QB would have a career day against this secondary playing zone. The problem is that I don't believe Randall and Rollins are close to 100%, and we can't play press man without them being near 100%. Gunter has skills, but is limited by his lack of closing speed, and none of the other young CBs are anywhere close to ready to play press man. This means we have to use Hyde and the other safeties as defacto CBs and they are limited by their body type and training.

I think our offense will keep us in every game. But my feeling is that we'll win 2 or 3 of the remaining 4 games and miss the playoffs because of our defensive limitations.

[Joemailman]

MM said in his PC that Monty and Michael have earned the chance for more opportunities. He didn't openly criticize Starks, but the writing is on the wall.

[Smidgeon]

Those had to about the worst playing conditions imaginable for a guy playing on a bad hamstring. It will be cold next week, but a dry field would be a big help.

On a failed 3rd and 1 in the 1st quarter, I thought Starks cut outside when there was a lane inside. Anybody else see that?

Yeah, but missing the cutback and trying to string the play wide is Starks' go-to move.

[Freak Out]

Yeah, I don't know what spooked him about that but he just needed to hit the hole. Ripper had a run later on 4th and 2 where the opposite needed to happen. That is the problem with such an intermittent run game.

They just need to make Monty the starter at RB. Fuck it....he's the best they have at the position.

[RashanGary]

They just need to make Monty the starter at RB. Fuck it....he's the best they have at the position.

Yep. It's not ideal, but he's barely carried the ball this year. He should be healthy and fresh still. The Packers offense really struggles when new, unreliable pieces are added in. AR just plays a sophisticated game and needs well adjusted players to do what he does.

For the rest of the year, the best we have is Montgomery. Maybe Michael can replace Starks next year.

[Joemailman]

Gotta love December football.

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[Patler]

I wonder if Montgomery's snaps are still being limited for medical reasons.

[pbmax]

Yeah, but missing the cutback and trying to string the play wide is Starks' go-to move.

As he has gotten older, yes, its like Lacy taught him that. He used to be reliable on his reads inside. Always took a game or three to get going, but he ran inside phenomenally well.

[pbmax]

I wonder if Montgomery's snaps are still being limited for medical reasons.

M3 said Monty was last week, I think. Matthews was this week.

Probably why they called the game like they did, to protect Rodgers in same way.

[call_me_ishmael]

Monty is a better Shane Vereen. He is going to be Rodger's best friend the next few years. Remember how good that Pats offense was? Would love to see Monty play that role every down. Love seeing the two backs split.

[Fritz]

MM said in his PC that Monty and Michael have earned the chance for more opportunities. He didn't openly criticize Starks, but the writing is on the wall.

Back in Lombardi's day, the writing would've been on the chalkboard. These days, it's probably on the SmartBoard.

I say Montgomery and Michaels going forward is the best chance, plus a few more to the Ripper. But mostly, let Rodgers pass and pass.

[gbgary]

Back in Lombardi's day, the writing would've been on the chalkboard. These days, it's probably on the SmartBoard.

I say Montgomery and Michaels going forward is the best chance, plus a few more to the Ripper. But mostly, let Rodgers pass and pass.

yup...it's pretty clear starks has lost it. the fact that michael lead sea in rushing before being released (and still does) is cause alone to be the number one for us. hell...lacy has more yards than starks.

[Fritz]

I believe my mother has more rushing yards than Starks.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I believe my mother has more rushing yards than Starks.

She is more willing to dive into a pile of men too.

[gbgary]

She is more willing to dive into a pile of men too.

d'oh!

[Fritz]

She is more willing to dive into a pile of men too.

You know my mom!

She doesn't have a lot of yards on her; she's got a lot of miles.

[red]

they need to find an injury for starks so he can be iR'd

he's a shell of what he was last year

monty and christine look much better, even Rip looks more athletic and faster

we don't need to be a 50-50 running team, but we need to at least show some threat of running the ball

[gbgary]

they need to find an injury for starks so he can be iR'd

he's a shell of what he was last year

monty and christine look much better, even Rip looks more athletic and faster

we don't need to be a 50-50 running team, but we need to at least show some threat of running the ball

i get what you're saying but you can't do that. couple of bad breaks and we'd in the same 'no running back' situation we were in earlier. just make him the last option off the bench. monty and especially michael need to get the touches.

[pbmax]

I really should begin providing arrest information for each game in this thread. Anyone want to gather the numbers each week?

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[KYPack]

You know my mom!

She doesn't have a lot of yards on her; she's got a lot of miles.

Classy comeback, Fritz.

Them's fightin' words in a lot of places.

[Teamcheez1]

I really should begin providing arrest information for each game in this thread. Anyone want to gather the numbers each week?

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 2h2 hours ago
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Not a lot to get excited about. Fans are resigned to the Packers fate and are sitting in gloomy contemplation.

[pbmax]

Not a lot to get excited about. Fans are consigned to the Packers fate and are sitting in gloomy contemplation.

Could very well be. Doesn't stop someone from getting arrested though. :lol:

Alex Gelhar ‏@AlexGelhar 26m26 minutes ago
Drunk Packers fan takes 111-mile cab ride. Stiffs the driver.
Gets arrested after police track him thru the snow:

Dan Hanzus
Let's check in on drunk people.
A Packers fan was arrested on Sunday after he stiffed a cabbie $475, the charge for a 111-mile ride from Lambeau Field to his home in Richfield, Wis.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Does Starks have any practice squad eligibility left?
Could he be transitioned into a coaching assignment? Say, the screen play specialist.

[Carolina_Packer]

Yeah, but missing the cutback and trying to string the play wide is Starks' go-to move.

I like when he is able to put his foot in the ground and hit it up in there, and he can be good at it. It may be harder to be a one cut runner with conditions like that, but also, he looked tentative on that play.

[Carolina_Packer]

I really should begin providing arrest information for each game in this thread. Anyone want to gather the numbers each week?

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 2h2 hours ago
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PB Confidential!

[gbgary]

Not a lot to get excited about. Fans are resigned to the Packers fate and are sitting in gloomy contemplation.

that and they hadn't played at home for a long time. it'll probably even out by season's end.

[hoosier]

Could very well be. Doesn't stop someone from getting arrested though. :lol:

Alex Gelhar ‏@AlexGelhar 26m26 minutes ago
Drunk Packers fan takes 111-mile cab ride. Stiffs the driver.
Gets arrested after police track him thru the snow:

Dan Hanzus
Let's check in on drunk people.
A Packers fan was arrested on Sunday after he stiffed a cabbie $475, the charge for a 111-mile ride from Lambeau Field to his home in Richfield, Wis.

Cabbie should be arrested too for failure to require cash up front. Richfield to Lambeau :-)

[pbmax]

Cabbie should be arrested too for failure to require cash up front. Richfield to Lambeau :-)

They tracked him down by following footprints in the snow. He left the cab to hit an ATM, went out back and headed for a restaurant nearby. The police found him there.

[hoosier]

They tracked him down by following footprints in the snow. He left the cab to hit an ATM, went out back and headed for a restaurant nearby. The police found him there.

It's both a poetic metaphor and a good indicator of the intelligence of fare skipping. What we are missing is a picture of the poor schmuck who agreed to take him under those terms!

[Joemailman]

Great photo of Ripkowski scoring TD on Sunday.

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[Rutnstrut]

Rip winning the pad level battle.

[Zool]

2 Packer blockers in the picture. One hitting Rip, the other hitting him.

[gbgary]

2 Packer blockers in the picture. One hitting Rip, the other hitting him.

3 look behind 27's helmet.

[Fritz]

Classy comeback, Fritz.

Them's fightin' words in a lot of places.


Ah, it's the internet, y'know?

In truth, my mom is a great lady. She and the old man were married over fifty years. They had their problems, but infidelity wasn't one of them.