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pbmax
04-25-2017, 10:56 AM
Nice oral history with new comments from Mike Sherman, Ted and Gruden.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19233025/oral-history-aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-2005-draft-day-slide-nfl

Deputy Nutz
04-25-2017, 12:41 PM
Fuck Aaron Rodgers.

QBME
04-25-2017, 05:25 PM
Fuck Aaron Rodgers.

With Olivia out of the picture your chances are certainly improved.

Zool
04-25-2017, 08:04 PM
With Olivia out of the picture your chances are certainly improved.

We can double date. I'll be with Munn, and Nutz can be with a man. All is right with the world.

Joemailman
04-25-2017, 08:12 PM
We can double date. I'll be with Munn, and Nutz can be with a man. All is right with the world.

Nutz and Skin still together?

Carolina_Packer
04-25-2017, 10:10 PM
Nutz and Skin still together?

With or without context, this question is funny.

Zool
04-25-2017, 11:34 PM
Nutz and Skin still together?

They just can't quit each other.

Fritz
04-26-2017, 06:22 AM
I thought Nutz got cut off.

Zool
04-26-2017, 08:09 AM
True love can never truly be cut off. Only delayed.

Unless you're a baby pig, then your nutz are gone right away.

Deputy Nutz
04-26-2017, 08:12 AM
Skin is currently in a mood.

Cheesehead Craig
04-26-2017, 08:42 AM
Skin is currently in a mood.

Thoughts and prayers with you during this difficult time.

pbmax
04-26-2017, 12:21 PM
Tim Kawakami‏ @timkawakami 15h15 hours ago
On Aaron Rodgers before the 2005 draft: Over lunch, I literally argued with McCarthy and Hostler over this. They were not fans of AR. I was.

Yes, it affected the way I viewed Hostler when he eventually become OC. I knew what he'd argued about Rodgers. And how wrong he was.

Of course it was ironic that McCarthy ended up going to Green Bay the next year, and McCarthy has admitted he was wrong about AR in 2005.

According to Dilfer, Hostler was a superstar coach. Which is when I forever dismissed any and all Dilfer comments.

In 2005, Hostler told me Rodgers' 2004 game vs. USC (which I covered) was proof that he was flawed. I thought it was proof of AR's greatness

He wasn't as vehement as Hostler, but yes, McCarthy was not high on Rodgers and told me so. I told them they were both dead wrong.

I've written about it many, many times. It was at a large lunch attended by dozens. You believe what you want. I'm evil.

Hostler argued that it (USC game) proved Rodgers was just a check-down QB. He was so, so, so wrong.

Reply from other: That's when he had like 22 straight completions? I saw that and thought he was the #1 pick.

Media meet/greet w/the new 49ers coaching staff. I sat near McCarthy, who asked me who I'd take #1. I said Rodgers. He & Hostler disagreed.

Mike Nolan and Scot McCloughan made the pick, but yes, I was then and remain wholly unconvincing to 49ers people!

pbmax
04-26-2017, 12:22 PM
He wrote about this in 2005, which is lost to the whims of old Content Management Systems. But here is a report of it plus some more commentary from 2009.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2009/11/20/the-49ers-fateful-choice-my-aaron-rodgers-or-alex-smith-column-from-april-2005/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+kawakami-merc+(Talking+Points+with+Tim+Kawakami)