Official 2017 1st Round Of The NFL Draft Thread

[Joemailman]

Not to be confused with the Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread which Red started because he had given up on the 2016 Season.

The 1st round of the NFL Draft deserves it's own thread.

Anybody heard from Ras?

Cleveland is on the clock. Will they take the best player or will the owner make them take a QB?

[red]

its amazing that mccafrey has gone from a second round pick in many "experts" opinions a couple weeks ago, to now being a probable top 10 pick

[Joemailman]

its amazing that mccafrey has gone from a second round pick in many "experts" opinions a couple weeks ago, to now being a probable top 10 pick

And Takk McKinley and John Ross might be going in the opposite direction. Both because of injury concerns.

[Joemailman]

NFL Network or ESPN tonight?

[Bretsky]

NFL Network or ESPN tonight?

I'm a flipper; I find NFL network to have way better content but the ESPNies to be more entertaining

[Joemailman]

Kiper has Packers taking Lamp. I just don't see TT taking a Guard that early. They've been able to develop 4th rounders into Pro Bowlers.

[Smidgeon]

NFL Network or ESPN tonight?

I need to know which DVR recording to watch later tonight. I'm recording both.

[Fritz]

I need to know which DVR recording to watch later tonight. I'm recording both.

Watch the one that features Ted trading down and still getting Kevin King, the UCLA kid (Mckinley or something?) and Joe Mixon.

[Smidgeon]

Watch the one that features Ted trading down and still getting Kevin King, the UCLA kid (Mckinney or something?) And Joe Mixon.

Fantasy Sports Network?

[Fritz]

Yes. The draft is sandwiched between a Holly Halston Special and "Jodi West's Magic Milfs."

[ND72]

awww man, the bucks play tonight! Come on NFL!

[Joemailman]

The Browns are on the clock.

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[Joemailman]

Myles Garrett - DE - Texas A&M

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Chiseled physique with functional strength, and not just beach muscles. Bigger than people think. Uber-athlete with spring-loaded hips and elite explosiveness. Powerful legs allow him to fight through redirect blocks and corner the edge at a sharp angle. Dominant pass-rush ability and production in college. Remarkable burst off the snap. His first three steps can throw an offense into disarray. When he times the snap, tackles have almost no chance of catching him at the edge. Wicked, whirling, dervish inside spin move that's reminiscent of Dwight Freeney's. Charges, coils, and springs up into tackles to help facilitate a quality bull rush. Game-wrecking potential. Has game experience against the likes of La'el Collins, Shon Coleman, Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil. Can play with a hand in the ground or standing. Able to spin in either direction out of block engagement. Lightning-fast inside charge extremely disruptive against the run. Gobbles up grass with long strides in open-field pursuit. Plus acceleration to the runner. Quick twitch creates ability to bound suddenly into running backs looking to charge past line of scrimmage. Outstanding rate as a tackle finisher with running backs and quarterbacks rarely escaping his clutches. Looks to maintain run fits rather than play hero ball. Has ability to play on both sides of the line of scrimmage.

WEAKNESSES Relies heavily on tremendous athleticism and explosion. Still learning how to string moves together and work with a pass-rush plan. At times, will take too long to activate counter moves when initial attack has stalled. Effort level appears closely tied to fatigue level at times. As pass rusher, uses hands reactively too often rather than proactively. Gets too cozy with blockers and will ride block for too long. Needs more urgency in disengagement. Would benefit with violent stick-and-move punch quickness into blockers. Has to work overtime to set a strong edge. Gets uprooted and widened out by quality run-blocking tackles. Never played in more than 70 percent of the defensive snaps in any of his three seasons at Texas A&M. Scouts are convinced he took plays off to protect his health this season.

DRAFT PROJECTION Top 3 pick

NFL COMPARISON Julius Peppers

BOTTOM LINE Elite edge rusher who possesses rare explosiveness and the fluid-movement skills and agility of an NBA shooting guard. Good size, but he's never likely going to be a hold-your-ground run defender, and might be best suited as an outside linebacker. However, his ability to explode into the backfield through a gap or around the edge gives him disruptive potential on every snap. Garrett still needs to fine-tune his pass-rush strategy and could stand to give more consistent effort from the start of the snap until the whistle. But his pass-rush production and athletic traits point toward an all-pro career.

[Joemailman]

Bears are on the clock.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Kind of interesting.

6'4" 272, 4.64 40, 10'7" broad jump, 33 bench reps, 41" vertical
6'3" 271, 4.64 40, 10'4" broad jump, 35 bench reps, 38 1/2" vertical

First guy is Myles Garrett.
Second guy is Nick Perry.

[Rastak]

Not to be confused with the Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread which Red started because he had given up on the 2016 Season.

The 1st round of the NFL Draft deserves it's own thread.

Anybody heard from Ras?

Cleveland is on the clock. Will they take the best player or will the owner make them take a QB?

Hey guys.

Not s fired up as in previous years for a variety of reasons. Bears grab a QB at two!

[red]

god bless the bears

hey ras

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bears gave up a lot.

[Joemailman]

Why are the Bears paying Mike Glennon 8 mil?

[red]

holy hell look at all those ugly women

look like bulldogs

[red]

Why are the Bears paying Mike Glennon 8 mil?

duh, the bears

and NOT A FIRST ROUND TALENT

[Joemailman]

Mitch Trubisky - QB - North Carolina

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Adequate height with good muscular definition. Built to withstand physical challenges of the position. Calm field general. Very good pocket mobility. Can slide around circumference of the pocket without having to drop his eyes from their task. When he leaves the pocket, looks to challenge with his arm before defaulting to his feet. Always in ready-to-rip throwing posture. Delivery is crisp and efficient. Locates safeties and reads their intentions immediately after the snap. Quick through his progressions and will double back to targets if his protection allows him time. Pocket mechanics and throwing motion are solid. Tough and competitive. Shows courage and poise in the pocket. Throws passes from balanced platforms and rarely defaults to an off-balance throw unnecessarily. Has all the arm you need. NFL call sheets will be wide open with Trubisky at the helm. Can dial up deep field-side outs with accuracy. Ball comes humming out of his hand when he needs to spike his velocity. Arm talent to whip a catchable throw from difficult angles to targets outside the numbers. Makes the standard "pitch and catch" throws with consistent accuracy. Ball usually comes out on time. His 62.1 completion percentage on intermediate throws easily outpaces the top quarterbacks in this draft. Possesses get-away quickness to avoid sudden pressure from a-gap blitzers with the speed to damage the defensive cause once he leaves the pocket.

WEAKNESSES Almost 98 percent of his dropbacks came from shotgun. Will have to learn NFL footwork from under center which could take time. Benefits from offense loaded with RPOs (run-pass option) that pull linebackers forward and open easier throwing windows. Played in space-based passing attack that didn't often ask him to throw to tight windows in traffic. Arm slot will drop way down causing batted balls at line of scrimmage. Too willing to float balls rather than air-mailing them out of bounds when he's making a bail-out throw against pressure. Needs better drive accuracy between the hashes. Has a tendency to leave throws in hip pocket of moving targets. Inconsistent deep ball touch. Has touchdown opportunities he babies and invites defenders time to recover. Not always pocket aware. Hyper-focuses on shifting parts down the field and can be late to feel pressure collapsing the edges.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "There are times he looks like another Carson Wentz and then there are times he looks like Blaine Gabbert. He has starting qualities and he'll go early, but he better get better at seeing blitzes and throwing hot or he'll get eaten alive by the exotic packages they are throwing at quarterbacks these days." -- Area scout for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON Matthew Stafford

BOTTOM LINE Trubisky is a high-end quarterback prospect who possesses NFL size, a big arm and the ability to throw with accuracy from the pocket or on the move. Despite playing in a spread-based offense, he's a full-field reader who does a very good job of getting an early read on the safeties before crafting his course of action. Trubisky will have to become much more pocket aware and do a better job of recognizing and attacking blitzes to back NFL defensive coordinators off. He hasn't put all the pieces together yet, but the puzzle is all right in front. Trubisky projects as a good starting quarterback with a high floor and the potential to be great.

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahahaha That's why the Bears are the Bears. Stupid stupid stupid!

[gbgary]

this pushes defensive players back. hope the QBs all go in the first round. lol

[Joemailman]

49ers on on the clock.

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[Sparkey]

Hey Bears fans. We luv you!

[pbmax]

awww man, the bucks play tonight! Come on NFL!

Well hello stranger!

[pbmax]

Hey guys.

Not s fired up as in previous years for a variety of reasons. Bears grab a QB at two!

RAS!

[pbmax]

Why did the Bears jump one? Was John Lynch absolutely going to trade out of his pick?

[Rastak]

Bears gave up a lot.Agreed, he better be good.

[pbmax]

Not sure this pushes defenders down unless now with Trubisky gone early teams start to panic.

Packer Report‏ @PackerReport 5m5 minutes ago
Apples and oranges but the Bears' new QB couldn't beat out Marquise Williams, who was in over his head here.

Brad Biggs‏ @BradBiggs 10m10 minutes ago
Wow. #Bears gave up No. 3 overall, 3rd rd pick (No. 67), 4th rd pick (No. 111) and 2018 3rd rd pick to move up one slot to No. 2.

Packer Report‏ @PackerReport 6m6 minutes ago
Someone needs to arrest John Lynch for robbery.


Unreal haul for the 49ers. Who also don't have a QB.

[ND72]

Well hello stranger!

Now I feel welcome again! :) Thank you bears!

[Joemailman]

Solomon Thomas DE - Stanford

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Angular build, well-built frame. His mother, father and uncle were all collegiate athletes. Lined up at multiple positions. Has ravenous approach to the game. Gets out of the blocks quickly and attacks with early, skilled hands. Stays hungry and wants to feast. Powerful for his size. Shows ability to win with power or quickness. Outstanding athleticism. Fluid in his play. Transitions from move to move. Unpredictable pass rush. Attacks both the edges and can crank up a bull rush. Uses swipes, rips and arm-over to unlock his rush. Hands and feet work in unison. Has lightning-quick spin move he can access to unhinge from block and find new life in his rush. Violent disengagements from blocks leave no doubt blocker is whipped. Relentless approach combined with athleticism makes block recoveries extremely difficult in run or pass. Refuses extended engagements to blockers and works himself free. Will sniff out gaps and make himself skinny into the backfield. Very good pursuit speed and range as playmaker.

WEAKNESSES Considered a "tweener" by scouts, who believe he could struggle to keep enough weight on his frame to play along interior. Length is below average as five-technique. Plays with inconsistent pad level. Needs to get bigger and stronger through his lower body. Tends to play taller as play rolls along and can get washed out of plays by strong down blocks. Hands are quick but need more consistent pop behind them. Overall play strength can be improved. "Big and strong" across from him causes some issues. Gets engulfed at times. Snap-count guesser with seven offsides penalties in 2016.

DRAFT PROJECTION Top-10 pick

SOURCES TELL US "He's damn good. I don't think he gets drafted as early as you do because he's not big enough for inside and he's not as long as you like on the outside. You have to figure out where you will play him, but he won't stop. He's going to be really productive." -- Director of scouting for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON Justin Smith

BOTTOM LINE Explosive defender who combines strength, quickness, and a muscle-car motor to drive him around the field making play after play. Has the hands and feet to be a quick-win specialist and the size to fit as a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive end who can reduce inside for pass-rush downs. He has all the athletic traits to become a high-impact player and possesses more than enough skill and talent to believe he will continue to elevate his game as a pro. Thomas has the potential to become the best defender from this draft class and a future all-pro.

[Joemailman]

49ers pick up 3 picks and still get the guy they probably wanted

[red]

bears are smart

the whole world knew the 49ers wanted thomas, so the bears give up a ton to switch picks with san fran, not for thomas, but for some crap QB.

the the 49ers still get their guy

unless, like they said on NFLN, the 49ers got an offer from another team and went to the bears with the news

[Joemailman]

Jaguars are on the clock.

[pbmax]

HISTORY! Bear first round picks inside the Top 5.


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[red]

there the 2nd coming of eddy lacy going #4 overall

[Joemailman]

Leonard Fournette - RB - LSU

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Full-on, grown man with outstanding definition throughout his body. Built like a linebacker with speed like a receiver. Long, powerful strides get speedy turnover. Click and go runner who hits his second gear faster than most big backs you'll ever see. Able to accelerate and scream around the corner for chunk runs against linebackers lacking speed or urgency to the edge. Powerful hips and thighs shake defenders right off. Tacklers better bring full force and technique. Always the hammer and never the nail. Violent finisher looking to intimidate run-support safeties with crushing blows behind lower pads. Runs feet through any and all contact. Has balance and power to plow through tackle attempts on an angle. Punishing stiff arms go viral. Has experience running from two-back, single-back and off-set looks. Hands are adequate in passing game. Can create for himself with power and speed. Wins in short-yardage and goal-line situations.

WEAKNESSES Doesn't make many defenders miss with open field shake. Aggressive, take-on style could lead to shortened career. Struggles to elude sudden traffic at line of scrimmage. Lacks looseness of hips to jump-cut from gap to gap. Struggled with a bad ankle for most of the season. Plays through a straw. Excitable runner in need of more patience. Too quick to hit the accelerator and slam into defenders when there are still cuts and yards left in the play. Runs to obvious daylight but needs to learn to anticipate and finesse the crease in traffic. Doesn't see cutback lanes developing as outside zone runner and prefers to keep runs play-side. Throws half-hearted, grazing shoulder as chip blocker. Pass protection and routes need extensive work.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "I can't wait to see how the draft guys pick at Fournette and tell everyone what he doesn't do right. He was healthy last year and that is what you are going to get. Big, fast and dominant." -- NFC director of scouting

NFL COMPARISON Bo Jackson

BOTTOM LINE High-end talent with rare blend of size, speed and power. Comparisons to Adrian Peterson feel lofty, but from a physical standpoint, he's there. Fournette doesn't have the wiggle to make defenders miss and his vision can be iffy. However, if your run fits and tackling aren't sound, he can take it the distance in an instant. May have durability concerns due to physical running style, but has All-Pro potential.

[Joemailman]

Titans are on the clock.

[red]

HISTORY! Bear first round picks inside the Top 5.


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when jay cutler is by far the greatest QB your 100 year old franchise has ever had, you should quit trying

how can they never find a good one?

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't see Fournette having a AP type career.

[red]

we're already falling behind and we're only 4 picks in

[red]

WMU REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joemailman]

Corey Davis - WR - Western Michigan

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Outstanding four-year production. Alpha attitude on the field and not afraid to take on the challenge of heavy target load. Excellent competitiveness. Focuses like a laser when ball is in the air. Tracks the deep ball as well as anyone in college and understands how to stack cornerbacks and keep them on his hip. Has second gear to run under the long ball. Excels in intermediate and deep parts of the field. Route running showed improvement in 2016. Variable route speed creates indecision for defenders. Vertical routes are crisp and create tilt in off-corners and safeties that he is quick to take advantage of. Play speed features access to functional burst. Can defeat inside leverage. A quarterback's friend who works aggressively back to the ball. Dominates in red zone. High-point catcher who uses well-timed leaps and long arms to win the 50-50 throws. Increases physicality and acceleration out of routes when operating near paydirt.

WEAKNESSES Doesn't always sell his vertical routes aggressively enough to make cornerbacks open their hips. Drifts, at times, on in-breaking routes, allowing defenders to squeeze the route. Needs to improve quickness into and out of his breaks underneath. Elongated into breaks when working from slot. Has had some issues with focus drops on throws outside of his frame. Had 16 drops over last three years at Western. Free releases into his routes in college will turn into stern press challenges in the pros. Wasn't asked to do much meaningful blocking.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "Man, he breaks them off with those routes. It wasn't even fair the way he did those corners in that conference. A man among boys." -- AFC North regional scout

NFL COMPARISON Eric Decker

BOTTOM LINE Touchdown juggernaut who was a four-year model of production and consistency in college. Davis has the route-running and ball skills to become a starter in the league, but it is his competitiveness and production in the red-zone that should make him a good one.

[Joemailman]

Jets are on the clock.

[RashanGary]

If I took a wr with a top 5 first round pick, damn it, he better be good.

[Deputy Nutz]

Interesting to see who the Jets are going to take.

Cory Davis could be a very solid NFL player, I just don't know if it would have taken a 5th pick to secure him.

[texaspackerbacker]

Another stretch - Corey Davis is decent but not that good to be 5th overall

[red]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

[red]

browns wanted trubinski, now they're trying to trade their #12 pick for kirk cousins

[The Shadow]

The Bears stupidity is breathtaking!

[Joemailman]

Jamal Adams - S - LSU

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Natural-born leader of men. Well-built. Will not hesitate for one second as a hitter. Steps downhill looking to punish running backs to set a tone for defense. Toggles between patient and urgent in treks to the ball. Plays off blockers. Approaches target with open arms and wide, balanced base to limit escape routes. Intelligent field general. Gets secondary aligned properly. Plays with plus balance in coverage. Pattern reader who can digest combinations. Alert for misdirection keys from offense. Party crasher on screen plays. Can handle coverage responsibilities against tight ends. Five interceptions and two recovered fumbles over last two seasons at LSU. Special-teams terror as freshman and sophomore, notching 21 tackles. No penalties in 2016. Father, George, was a first-round pick of the Giants in 1984.

WEAKNESSES Handsy and too willing to clamp onto receivers down the field. Hard-charging downhill, but a little stiff when asked to retreat. Long speed appears to be average on tape. Eyes drop when targets approach his area. Anticipation is average, limiting his range as a center-fielder. Will give away some interceptions due to drops. Slower coming to balance as tackler on bursting runners between the tackles. Desire to limit cutbacks leads to challenging play-side tackles. Doesn't pursue with expected vigor from across the field. Aggressiveness opens him up against play-action.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "The people who have been at that program the longest think he might be the best leader LSU has had in years. He's a no-doubt first-rounder. He can play all over the field and he could have an immediate impact on defense just like Landon Collins did coming out. I love him. I think he's a winner." - AFC area scout

NFL COMPARISON Darren Woodson

BOTTOM LINE Interchangeable safety with a sheriff's mentality. Adams is a physical tone-setter who should thrive near the line of scrimmage or in a robber role. Should be a commanding presence in the locker room early on and his do-as-I-do play demeanor could be the catalyst for turning a struggling defense around quickly.

[Joemailman]

LSU with 2 of the top 6 picks.

[Joemailman]

Another stretch - Corey Davis is decent but not that good to be 5th overall

I agree. He's good, but I don't think he's Julio Jones good.

[Deputy Nutz]

I guess they were trying to prevent anyone else moving up to take Trubinsky, I am not sure why but fuck I ain't no GM

[Joemailman]

Chargers are on the clock.

[Sparkey]

Chargers pick next

[Deputy Nutz]

Holy moly

[Joemailman]

Mike Williams - WR - Clemson

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Prototypical height, weight, speed prospect. Fills out the uniform as well as any receiver in college football. Sells vertical push to create an early hip turn from backpedaling cornerbacks. Uses hands to create late separation on vertical throws. Long arms and big hands can go get throws at their highest point, snatching 50/50 balls away from his in-air competitors. Ball tracking is impeccable. Able to track it inside, outside or over his shoulder. Hands catcher who plucks it away from his body. Has body control to dig out the low balls and contort to grab throws Deshaun Watson leaves behind him. Concentration ramps up when routes take him between the hashes. Works middle of the field with no reservations about what is lingering. Has been asked to work all three levels of the field at Clemson. Can make cornerbacks miss after the catch and extend his play. Needs more commitment as a run blocker but has frame and strength to make a difference as a blocker.

WEAKNESSES Natural pass catcher who will occasionally run into focus drops. Drops issue found him over second half of the season. Route work lacks focus and energy. Creates very little indecision from cornerbacks with his head fakes and jab steps. Ability to win with physical traits could dry up on next level. Could use better understanding of route leverage to open wider passing lanes for quarterbacks. Plant-and-go at the stem lacks crispness as does acceleration from his cuts. Average release quickness. Gets hung up by press corners with a good lead jab. Needs to play to his size. Gets muscled against sideline too often. Fumbled twice this season. Neck injury forced him to miss entire 2015 season so until he clears combine medicals, teams may have a red flag on him.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "Really pretty looking when you watch him down on the field but he's not there yet. I think he'll get there but he's not there yet. I don't think he's going to run as fast as people think. When college players get up here and find out that cornerbacks are faster and more physical, there is an adjustment period. I think it will take him some time to figure things out but I think he'll do it. He's going to be good, I just don't know if he's going to be a star." -- NFC Pro Personnel Director

NFL COMPARISON Plaxico Burress

BOTTOM LINE Williams looks the part of a WR1 and has shown an ability to work all three levels of the field after coming back from his 2015 neck injury. Williams is tough enough to be a high-volume target while working the middle of the field and his size and ball skills make him a formidable foe in the end zone. He'll have to be coached up with his routes and releases, but he has the talent to become a big safety blanket for a young quarterback.
-Lance Zierlein

[Deputy Nutz]

Another receiver. I didn't see that coming, maybe it was a good idea for Tennessee to take Cory Davis. You never know how the draft plays out

[Joemailman]

Panthers are on the clock

[texaspackerbacker]

What I see so far is all good for the Packers - a bunch of players taken who we wouldn't have had interest in anyway and some teams (Bears at the top of the list) hurting themselves.

[Deputy Nutz]

Too early for those comments. Those guys were going to go before GB had a chance to pick anyways

[pbmax]

Damn red and his official panic NFL Draft Thread! Been wondering why no one else posting.


Mitchell Trubisky‏Verified account @Mtrubisky10 27 Dec 2011
I love to kiss tittiess

Mitchell Trubisky‏Verified account @Mtrubisky10 11 Jan 2015
Hell yeah, Go Packers

[pbmax]

browns wanted trubinski, now they're trying to trade their #12 pick for kirk cousins

Expensive, but better than what they have now. You could live with him for a while and look for a great one in the draft.

[Joemailman]

Christian McCaffrey - RB - Stanford

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Smooth, controlled stride length with choppy feet for instant cuts and change of direction. Plus vision with above average anticipatory feel for opening creases. Hugs contours of the running lane and staggers and stutters his feet to maneuver in tight quarters. Protect football while running through traffic. Reads keys quickly on stretch plays. Sinks hips into sharp cuts. Equally adept darting inside or outside and is able to string moves together. Won't dance on short runs -- gets it downhill. Feet constantly in motion. Able to make defenders miss on all three levels. Willing to keep runs playside and alters his track seamlessly. Runs with multiple gears and is able to gear up or down instantly. Has experience in one-back, two-back and offset formations. Excellent hands out of backfield and can be used from slot. Devastating quickness out of breaks can mismatch linebackers. Experienced, capable punt and kick returner.

WEAKNESSES Lacks desired size of an every-down back. Has some tread worn off his tires. Logged 300-plus touches (including returns) in each of the last two seasons and was asked to grind the gears for short yardage carries. Benefitted from physical, downhill offensive line. Takes foot off gas into contact. Doesn't have NFL-caliber power to break tackles and create yardage for himself through power. Can shake tacklers, but lacks a twitchy burst to accelerate away after the cut. On stretch plays, can get too cute continuing to probe towards the perimeter rather than choosing a crease and committing. Average burst may not be enough to race past NFL speed on second level. Inconsistent squaring up blitzers in pass pro and ducks his head into contact.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "I'll be his draft grades are going to be all over the place because some teams will see him as a complementary back and others will see him as a multi-touch guy. Teams who run a lot of three and four wide looks will like him because he can run those inside zone plays out of the gun and they can also motion him out of the backfield and just try and mismatch him." - AFC Pro Personnel Director

NFL COMPARISON Tiki Barber

BOTTOM LINE Multidimensional runner with flex appeal for teams looking for a player who can carry the ball 20 times or catch it 10 depending on the game plan. McCaffrey's size, power and speed are just average, but he is able to create yardage for himself with his vision and elusiveness. McCaffrey's ability to return punts and kicks could be the value sweetner that pushes his name into the first round.

[red]

when was the last time a white RB went top 10?

the 60s?

[pbmax]

Too early for those comments. Those guys were going to go before GB had a chance to pick anyways

Not sure about Mike Williams, McGinn had him going 30.

Could be OK if mock drafters had other teams need for WR pegged correctly.

[Guiness]

McCaffrey to the Panthers. Two RBs in the top 10

[Brandon494]

Good pick for Panthers

[wist43]

Glad to see the Bears and Panthers make a mess of it:)

[red]

Not sure about Mike Williams, McGinn had him going 30.

Could be OK if mock drafters had other teams need for WR pegged correctly.

i've seen him going top 10 for months

way to early for anything to have any impact on our pick

[wist43]

I saw McCaffrey as 3rd rounder

[pbmax]

Easy for Ross too.

Chiefs left hanging perhaps.

[Deputy Nutz]

I saw McCaffrey as 3rd rounder

Racist

[pbmax]

Peter Burns‏Verified account @PeterBurnsESPN 5m5 minutes ago
Fournette, McCaffrey both didn't play in their non-CFB Playoff bowl games, didn't cost either of them in the NFL draft. Something to monitor

[red]

wow, lots of Wr's going

no CB's taken yet

[red]

Peter Burns‏Verified account @PeterBurnsESPN 5m5 minutes ago
Fournette, McCaffrey both didn't play in their non-CFB Playoff bowl games, didn't cost either of them in the NFL draft. Something to monitor

great, smart moves by both IMO

[gbgary]

so john ross will be running past house when we play them later on.

[Joemailman]

John Ross - WR - Washington

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Has home-run gear to yank the top off of defenses. Vertical speed demands respect and creates open throws underneath. Corners open hips early to turn and sprint, leaving his curl and dig routes unchallenged. Feet are fire. On verticals from the slot, sells the corner route and stems to the post with a burst for easy separation and a comfortable throwing window for the quarterback. Hands are generally solid. Plus hand-eye coordination. Natural ball-tracker who locates the deep ball early and watches it. Dangerous show-and-go open-field ability after the catch. Able to win with slants or fades near the goal line. Eludes the first tackler and can turn a short one into a long one in a heartbeat. Has enough size to work from outside or from the slot. Saw four of his eight carries go for 15-plus yards. Has returned at least one kickoff for a touchdown in each of his three years at Washington.

WEAKNESSES Undersized with below-average play strength. Struggled to get into his routes cleanly and impact the game against the physical cornerbacks at Alabama. Weight will creep too far out over his toes at times. Tape shows occasional stumbles over nothing but turf in his routes and after the catch. Needs to do better job of working back to the throw. Has to learn to make contested catches. Will need to sharpen his short and intermediate routes to become a true three-level target. Has had a major injury to both knees. The long-term health of both knees will be a concern that has to be answered at the combine.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "He will get emotional on the field when he drops one or when their quarterback leaves an open deep ball short, and I've heard other scouts call it 'bad body language.' I just think he's an edgy player. He's competitive and shows it. You'll take some attitude when a guy scores as many touchdowns as he does." -- West Coast scout for NFC team

NFL COMPARISON DeSean Jackson

BOTTOM LINE Ross is an instant-impact weapon who scored 23 touchdowns in just 112 touches. He should be able to step right in as a kick returner and a slot receiver, but teams with speed at tight end might utilize him outside to create extreme vertical stress on opposing safeties. If his knees check out as healthy, Ross is a likely first-round pick with the rare ability to become a high-volume slot receiver or a lesser-targeted, high-yield deep-ball threat.

[Zool]

when was the last time a white RB went top 10?

the 60s?

So I had to look. Touchdown Tammy Vardell to the Browns in 1992. 9th over all.

[red]

KC moves way up

[Deputy Nutz]

6 offensive players taken in the top 9 in what was considered a defensive strong draft.

[Joemailman]

Teams looking for defense in the 1st round have to be thrilled by what's happening so far.

[red]

So I had to look. Touchdown Tammy Vardell to the Browns in 1992. 9th over all.

never heard of him, he must have been really good lol

good research

[Deputy Nutz]

So I had to look. Touchdown Tammy Vardell to the Browns in 1992. 9th over all.

I think he was from Stanford as well. That didn't work out to well for the Browns

[gbgary]

keep pushing the D back to us.

[red]

wow, KC trades their first this year, their first next year and their third this year to move up

[red]

6 offensive players taken in the top 9 in what was considered a defensive strong draft.

same thing i was thinking

[Zool]

I think he was from Stanford as well. That didn't work out to well for the Browns

Toby Gerhart sucked for the Vikings. Don't take a Stanford RB apparently.

[Deputy Nutz]

so john ross will be running past house when we play them later on.
Dude is fast as fuck

[ND72]

read at like 4pm that KC wanted Mahomes and were willing to do anything to get up to take him.

[Deputy Nutz]

wow, KC trades their first this year, their first next year and their third this year to move up

Who ever it is, isn't worth it

[red]

I think he was from Stanford as well. That didn't work out to well for the Browns

got the nickname "touchdown tommy" from his coaching after scoring 4 tds in one game. all from the 1 yard line

[gbgary]

mahomes to kc

[Deputy Nutz]

read at like 4pm that KC wanted Mahomes and were willing to do anything to get up to take him.

Not worth it

[red]

read at like 4pm that KC wanted Mahomes and were willing to do anything to get up to take him.

so not worth a 1st much less 2 of them

watson IMO was the only QB worth a first round pick this year IMO

[George Cumby]

I saw McCaffrey as 3rd rounder

You see Santa Claus as a serial burglar.

[red]

kid looks like he's 15

[Joemailman]

Pat Mahomes - QB - Texas Tech

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Possesses NFL body type for work inside and out of the pocket. Has an undeniable swagger and confidence to his game. Accuracy has improved in each season since his freshman year. Naturally accurate in his every day throws. Comfortable challenging defenders in space. Has arm strength and fearlessness to attack the cover-2 voids down the sideline. Can make deep, field side throws. Cranks up velocity to fit passes into tight windows. Former pitcher who propels hips through his release with aggressive torque and never gets cheated on his follow-through. Can deliver strikes from a variety of arm angles. Expedites release on RPOs (run-pass option) or when pressure is mounting in pocket. Puts effort into play-action fakes. Relaxed and effective when throwing on the move. Can be a legitimate dual-threat in a boot-action offense. Improved his eye manipulation over the years and will eyeball linebackers to hold them while patterns unfold around them. Has pocket mobility to escape pressure and the poise to extend plays and find alternate targets. Hands are very strong. Can pump and reset without issues. Competes as a runner and is willing to go the extra mile for the first down.

WEAKNESSES Can be inconsistent in his approach. Needs to play inside the offense and show more discipline. Too eager to go big game hunting. Ravenous appetite for the explosive play can also bring unwanted trouble. Willingness to default to playground style appears to limit his ability to get into a consistent rhythm. Needs to improve anticipatory reads and learn to take what the defense gives him. Decision making can go from good to bad in a moment's notice. Operates from a narrow base and allows his upper body and arm to race ahead of his feet. Has a dip and wind-up in his standard release. Explosive delivery and follow-through causes some throws to sail. Needs better touch on intermediate and deep balls. Carries ball a little low in the pocket. Impatient. Will leave pocket prematurely rather than standing in and winning in rhythm. Better as a scrambler than pure runner. Looked a little less mobile in the open field this season.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1-2

SOURCES TELL US "He's got a great arm, big balls and he's mobile. He is going to drive his head coach crazy for the first couple of years and there is no getting around that. If it clicks for him and he's coachable, I think he could become a special quarterback." - NFC executive

NFL COMPARISON Jay Cutler

BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect.

[red]

they just compared him to favre, but them commented on his great accuracy

hmmm

[Joemailman]

so not worth a 1st much less 2 of them

watson IMO was the only QB worth a first round pick this year IMO

Chiefs give up 2 1st round picks for a QB who won't play right away.

[RashanGary]

I would never take a 200 lb Rb that high. Yuck. I like john Ross though. 4.22 and can run routes and catch. That would be fun to have.

[Deputy Nutz]

Brett Favre to Sharpe!!!

[RashanGary]

Draft falling nicely for us though..... Edge rusher is my hope....

[esoxx]

kid looks like he's 15

Was that his mom next to him that kissed him or his GF/wife?

[Joemailman]

Saints are on the clock.

This should be a defense pick.

[George Cumby]

Draft falling nicely for us though..... Edge rusher is my hope....

I'm with you, Justin.

[Deputy Nutz]

Was that his mom next to him that kissed him or his GF/wife?

That was his mom (MiLF)

[red]

Was that his mom next to him that kissed him or his GF/wife?

not a clue

[Deputy Nutz]

Wow a pick that finally makes sense

[red]

first CB gone

not one i even wanted

[Joemailman]

Marshon Lattimore - CB - Ohio St.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Uber-athlete. Parks under receiver's chin at line of scrimmage. Uses disruptive inside hand to slow the release and can punch out of his pedal. Patient from his press, utilizing well-timed opening to match the receiver. Plays with explosive hip flip that jump-starts him into top speed when forced to turn and run. Has balance and footwork to remain in phase with target throughout the route. Has electric, flat-footed closing burst. Can shadow a nine route from release to completion. Has twitch to drive hard toward the throw from his lateral shuffle. Plays with plus instincts. Targeted 35 times this season and credited with 14 passes defensed, including four interceptions. Has burst and instincts to make plays from any coverage asked of him. Forceful open-field tackler. Works through blockers to get to both wide receiver screens and running plays. Wrap-up hitter who sees what he hits.

WEAKNESSES Only one year of starting experience. Wasn't tested by high-end receiving talent very often. Will be much tougher to consistently slow NFL receivers with jam and might have to learn to play some off coverage. Showed slight transition hitch when matched up against in inside release. Will read receiver's eyes to assess ball-timing down the field rather than getting his head around early. Film shows infrequent issues recovering against speed merchants.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "I've studied the top cornerbacks coming out and he's the best I've seen. He's so athletic that he can just post up under the receiver's chin and shadow him all over the field. And he's tough, too. He'll be one of the top cornerbacks pretty quickly." -- Pro personnel director for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON Vontae Davis

BOTTOM LINE Average-sized, one-year starter with explosive athleticism and a loaded tool box. He has the feet, hips and agility to be a lockdown cornerback and the ball skills to make teams pay for looking in his direction. His lack of experience could show up early, but he has the confidence and competitive nature that should help him overcome those issues. He has the ability to become a Pro Bowl cornerback early in his career.

[Joemailman]

Browns are on the clock.

DeShaun Watson?

[Sparkey]

Houston going to take Watson here?

[texaspackerbacker]

This couldn't possibly be going much better for the Packers so far. Still a QB or 2 or 3 to go before the Packers pick, and all those Corners and Edge Rushers still on the board!

[esoxx]

Toby Gerhart sucked for the Vikings. Don't take a Stanford RB apparently.

What about former Bear #1 pick in 1988, Brad Muster? #23 pick overall, white RB from Stanford.

The Bears lol

[gbgary]

Houston... watson

[pbmax]

6 offensive players taken in the top 9 in what was considered a defensive strong draft.

Scarcity driving action.

[Joemailman]

DeShaun Watson - QB - Clemson

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Tremendous leader and winner. Good pocket posture with quiet upper body. Good pocket mobility and doesn't show much panic when pocket gets noisy. Sacked just 32 times over his last 1,181 drop-backs. Willing to stand in and deliver the ball against rib-wreckers on a clear path for him. Has history of clutch play in big games and big moments. Averaged 472 yards of total offense with eight total touchdowns and one interception in his two championship appearances against Alabama. Throws with anticipation and touch. Fires hips through throws for improved drive velocity into tight windows. Arm strength currently limited by mechanical issues that are correctable. Big, strong hands to pump fake and manipulate. Keeps ball tucked near his chest when scanning. Has compact, over-the-top release that uncorks a tight, pretty spiral. Throws with adequate accuracy on the move. Has traits to operate out of boot-action attack. Tremendous athlete who has ability to pick up chunks of yardage on ground. Has called running plays could ignite a stagnant offense. Has instant juice out of pocket to make defense pay if rush lanes are vacated. Does a good job of sliding or eluding square collisions in space as a runner. Dual-threat weapon near end zone who will create additional preparation time for coaching staffs looking to limit his effectiveness in the red area. Every meaningful passing stat improved in close-and-late situations in 2016.

WEAKNESSES Frame is a little more slender than teams typically like. Accuracy runs hot and cold. Tends to over-stride on drive throws, causing release point to drop and balls to sail. Ball placement on crossing routes and slants needs to improve. Will leave throws behind intended targets. Deep-ball accuracy has been scatter-shot over his last two seasons at Clemson, with throws sailing well beyond his target. Design of offense limited his need to make full-field reads. Has to become adept at working through progressions and playing chess against safeties. Needs to let routes develop rather than rushing anticipatory throws. Too many interceptions due to lack of vision, placement or decision-making. Threw interception vs. Troy against bracketed coverage he didn't see. Baited into bad-decision interceptions twice by Florida State cornerbacks. Has issues improvising away from initial, pre-snap plan even when pathway to target becomes muddy. Shotgun quarterback who, like Jared Goff, could take time getting used to huddling, pace of play-calling and drop-backs from under center.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounda 1-2

NFL COMPARISON Marcus Mariota

BOTTOM LINE Teams will have to weigh the inconsistent field vision and decision-making against his size, athleticism, leadership and production. While not perfect, teams can add checks to both arm and accuracy boxes for Watson. However, discussions about whether or not his areas of improvement can be corrected will likely determine whether a team will view him as a high-upside prospect or a franchise quarterback. Watson's transition from Clemson's offense to a pro-style attack will obviously take time, but his combination of intangibles and athletic ability make him worth a first-round selection.

[Joemailman]

Scarcity driving action.

Isn't that called reaching?

[Joemailman]

Cardinals are on the clock.

[gbgary]

glad we won't be playing AFC south for a couple of years.

[red]

Isn't that called reaching?

really reaching

[RashanGary]

I like Watson. Houston is a good team. If they can start him in a simple system for the first year, they might be able to get it going from day 1 with him.

[red]

Scarcity driving action.

yup, teams taking the few top offensive players first thinking they can get decent defensive players later. that pushes the elite defensive players back

but will they last?

[Carolina_Packer]

Draft falling nicely for us though..... Edge rusher is my hope....

I agree, JH. I'm celebrating every offensive pick made by teams who may have drafted more for need than BAP, or teams that traded up for the QB. I think the Packers are going to get a good defensive player. Don't know which level of the defenses they are targeting, but please let it be D.

[red]

I like Watson. Houston is a good team. If they can start him in a simple system for the first year, they might be able to get it going from day 1 with him.

dudes a flat out winner, now he's going to a good club instead of some shit team like the bears or browns

of course the last QB i thought was a flat out winner was RGIII i think

[pbmax]

Tanier on Trubisky at Bleacher Report:


Two things worry me about Mitchell Trubisky, and neither of them is his low number of NCAA starts. He faced lots of big-time competition in his 13 starts and made plenty of NFL throws. That’s not a huge issue.

Trubisky tends to linger in the pocket when backed up against his own end zone, as he waits for a perfect play when he should be speeding up his process. Trubisky threw to a receiver in his own end zone for a safety once and engages in other dangerous tomfoolery when he should just get rid of the darn ball.

Trubisky also likes to try to escape a clean pocket via the back door, dropping extra far back and looping around his right tackle and the pass-rusher he’s blocking. There have been about 10 quarterbacks in NFL history who could execute this maneuver successfully, and even they all have some 40-sack seasons on their ledgers.

Trubisky’s mistakes are Geno Smith tendencies, which should set off some warnings. More experience should minimize them, but they underscore the fact that Trubisky isn’t some ultra-dependable pocket passer. He’s an athletic playmaker with limited experience like Newton or Tannehill, two quarterbacks who neatly define the range of possibilities for Trubisky.

The Bears had a chance to take their pick of instant-impact defensive players. They selected a developmental quarterback, despite a weak receiving corps. By the time Trubisky develops, if he develops, the men who drafted him may be gone.

Unless his development becomes an excuse to ask for an extra year after another weak 2017 season for the Bears.

[Carolina_Packer]

Arizona will pick an Alabama player! or Haason Reddick...damn!

[esoxx]

Here comes the run on defense.

[Joemailman]

Haason Reddick - LB - Temple

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Explosive, quick-twitch athlete. Great flexibility with loose hips to turn, twist, and chase. Excellent reactive quickness and change-of-direction agility. Dynamic playmaker in space. Locks onto targets and instantly accelerates to the ball. Finished 2016 regular season with 21.5 tackles for loss. Fluid mover around field. Has chase range over extended territory. Eyes work past blockers and into backfield. Slips and slides around the edge and through small creases. Always working feet into improved positioning after contact. Came in as a defensive back and has experience on all three levels. Has athleticism in space and necessary instincts to be legit cover talent as linebacker. Rushes with good bend and forward lean. Difficult to handle on tackle/end twists back inside. Turns corner with tight track to quarterback once he pries the edge open.

WEAKNESSES Undersized by NFL standards for position he's currently playing. Labors to disengage once size is on top of him. Will need more play strength to ward off NFL blockers. Improving with hands, but needs to continue technique work to control blockers. Lacks necessary bulk, length, and play strength to set a strong edge as an NFL 3-4 outside linebacker. Marginal speed-to-power ability. Connects and sticks to tackles when trying to bull-rush under their pads. Pass rush reliant upon athletic talent and cursory hand play. Needs more diversified rush plans. Slides off of too many tackles. Missed 16 tackles over final two seasons at Temple. Needs to chest-up and run feet through contact. Played in fewer than 70 percent of team's defensive snaps.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

NFL COMPARISON Ryan Shazier

BOTTOM LINE Injuries limited Reddick to just four games over last two years of high school, forcing him to walk on at Temple. The Owls staff helped him unlock his explosive athletic traits on the field, which resulted in three forced fumbles, 9.5 sacks and 21.5 tackles for loss in 2016. Reddick's speed and athleticism might give him a greater shot at impacting the game as a 3-4 inside linebacker or a 4-3 WILL rather than trying to bulk up and play the edge. An ascending prospect with a high-end potential if he can continue to hone his craft.

[RashanGary]

Damn, I like reddick

[pbmax]

Isn't that called reaching?

Yep. Paying maximum price for 50% chance of success. If it works, people call you Parcells. If it doesn't, your go back to work as a scout. Or on TV.

[Zool]

What about former Bear #1 pick in 1988, Brad Muster? #23 pick overall, white RB from Stanford.

The Bears lol

Wow Stanford RBs aren't good.

[RashanGary]

If we have a lucky draft, I mean like somehow pull a Nick Collins level player and a Matthews level player from the same draft, we will be in position to win a SB for the next couple years!!

[Joemailman]

Eagles are on the clock.

[Joemailman]

This could be Derek Barnett.

[red]

they're playing the wrong rocky song if they're trying to fire up the crowd

[red]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fG78g2Ayxg

[RashanGary]

Damn, our edge players starting to fall!

[Joemailman]

Derek Barnett - DE - Tennessee

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Championship hand fighter on college level. Hands are strong, fast, efficient and lethal. Punch-and-discard winner. As rusher, swats are well-timed discarding tackle's punch attempt. Attacks the edge with good forward lean and works hands and feet in harmony on road to the quarterback. Uses jab steps and lateral movement to search for the edge of the blocker. Has leverage and strength to play right through redirects. Elite production on par with former Vol and Hall of Famer Reggie White against run and as sack artist. Not content to just set the edge -- wants to make the play. Uses hand fighting and play strength to work through leverage points. Long strider who can crash down the line to challenge gap plays if unblocked. Punishing hitter. Delivers crushing tackles and sacks when given the opportunity. Hustle player who pursues the play with intent. Rag-dolls tight ends at point of attack. Plus field awareness recognizing play-action, reverses, and screens. Fluid enough to drop into space and play some zone.

WEAKNESSES Admitted slow starter who has had issues with sluggishness to start a season. Will overthink it at times rather than just reacting. Can be undisciplined with guessing snap count and taking penalties. Change-of-direction issues typical of a broad-waisted big man. Struggles to redirect movements suddenly once momentum starts rolling downhill. Quarterbacks with pocket mobility can elude him. Substantially more twitch in hands than in feet. Feet are average. Initial burst upfield is average. Times snap count to help with his get-off. Aggressive forward charge opens him up to cut blocks. Long stride creates base inconsistencies at point of attack. Length is a concern. Can he still win without decisive, early victories with his hands? Loops to quarterback are rounded and might need a winning, inside counter move as a pro.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

NFL COMPARISON Nick Perry

BOTTOM LINE Strong edge presence with NFL-caliber hand usage and play strength. Barnett is one of the most productive defensive linemen to come out of the SEC in quite some time despite lacking the length and twitch that teams usually look for off the edge. His awareness and play traits should keep him near the action and he has the talent to step into a starting base end spot right away. There could be coordinators who view him as an early down, outside backer in a 3-4 with the ability to put his hand in the ground on sub packages.

[Joemailman]

Surprised Jonathan Allen is still out there.

[Joemailman]

Colts are on the clock.

[Joemailman]

When was the last time we went this long without an offensive tackle?

[RashanGary]

As much as 200lb rbs suck dick, having mccaffrey in the backfield, teams are gonna wanna stay big against cam and then mccaffrey will have major mis matches as a wr against lbs..... it could be a nice fit.

[Carolina_Packer]

Surprised Jonathan Allen is still out there.

Me too. He's a beast.

[gbgary]

colts...hooker

[Carolina_Packer]

When was the last time we went this long without an offensive tackle?

Good point. Very unusual. Could that complicate the Packers choice? What if that is the BAP on their big board and they can't move back?

[RashanGary]

Surprised Jonathan Allen is still out there.

Poor athlete with size problems and played at stacked school where he rarely saw a double team. Maybe teams just don't like him as much as the production in college makes us think he should be liked.

[red]

dude looks like a fucking caveman with that giant brow

[Joemailman]

Malik Hooker - S - Ohio St.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Outstanding instincts help him work ahead of the play despite average speed. Always probing quarterback's eyes for clues. Quick to process and is decisive in action. Flows hard to where his instincts lead him. Has fluid movement of a basketball player in space. Leans and bends into his turns for greater body control. Always active and in constant on-field search for optimal positioning. Hyper-aware of incoming targets to his area. Just as comfortable from "robber" spot as high safety. Mirrors quarterback’s eyes to challenge the passing lane. Very rarely takes a false step. Has loose hips for sudden stop-start to cover in space. Great ball skills. Earned most of his seven interceptions in 2016. Can range over the top to challenge the deep ball. Chooses path to the football over path to the man. Strong hands at the catch point lead to takeaways. Can disguise coverage and hustle back into position. Will strike receivers with some force to jar throws loose.

WEAKNESSES Just one year of experience. Raw and still learning nuances of the position. More instinctive against the pass than run. At times can be a step slow to trigger downhill to take on the run. Will take some questionable downhill angles to the ball. Not overly physical against the run. Will duck head and go way low as a tackler. Below-average finisher. Comes in hot rather than coming to balance as a striker. Arm-tackler who needs to tighten up his mechanics. Missed 17 tackles this season. Balance issues show up on tape. Still growing into his leggy frame. Will get caught guessing rather than reading. Squats on tight ends and slot receivers from man and gets grabby at the top of the route.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "Hook(er) is still so raw and you see him making all of those plays. He's a player who will come in and look bad his first year and then be an all-pro by his third year. I think that's his arc. No short-cut for experience." -- Personnel director for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON Reggie Nelson

BOTTOM LINE He's the ultimate lurker. His instincts are always bringing him to the football and when he gets there he has the ball skills to take it away. His lack of game experience and issues with tackle consistency will likely show themselves early in his career, but his ability to flip the field is worthy of an aggressive projection. He has the talent to be a high-impact starter for years in the NFL.

[Deputy Nutz]

now the run on defensive players will begin. Packers will have about the same kids to select from

[Carolina_Packer]

As much as 200lb rbs suck dick, having mccaffrey in the backfield, teams are gonna wanna stay big against cam and then mccaffrey will have major mis matches as a wr against lbs..... it could be a nice fit.

I really like McCaffrey. I think he's a swiss army knife. Cam is not the most accurate passer however, so that won't help his cause, but Macs footwork and quickness are off the charts.

[red]

Good point. Very unusual. Could that complicate the Packers choice? What if that is the BAP on their big board and they can't move back?

then TT should be fired and his big board and BPA idea should be shoved up his ass

we've got enough LT's. i don't care if they are BPA

[Joemailman]

Ravens are on the clock. Reuben Foster seems like their kind of guy.

[Deputy Nutz]

Chucky doesn't like the Hooker

[RashanGary]

I'm a big believer in safety play being key to winning a sb. Most SB winning teams have a great one the year they win. Indy has the QB. This pick could help glue the defense together. I like the pick.

[gbgary]

balt....humphrey

[red]

now the run on defensive players will begin. Packers will have about the same kids to select from

everyone selected so far was pretty much mocked to go before we picked anyways, except the second 2 QB's

so yeah, not much has changed for us, unless those teams that have been mocked to take offensive players in the late teens and 20's decide to take other offensive players instead of the defensive guys falling

we really don't even need to start sweating or thinking for about another hour

speaking of which, we are over 2 hours in and we're only halfway through the first. uhhhhhhhgggggg

[smuggler]

Jon Gruden seldom talks down a player. That's basically as close as damnation as he will give you. Gruden says Hooker will bust.

[Deputy Nutz]

see Baltimore pick

[red]

2nd Cb gone

[BZnDallas]

Jon Gruden seldom talks down a player. That's basically as close as damnation as he will give you. Gruden says Hooker will bust.

I was thinking the same thing

[Joemailman]

Marlon Humphrey - CB - Alabama

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Has the body type and athletic traits that are out of central casting. Fluid hips and hard-charging makeup speed. Well-versed in a variety of coverages. Plays with disciplined eyes and good balance between high-low responsibilities in zone. Good short-area acceleration to close out receivers and attack throwing lanes. Reactive athleticism helps erase coverage mistakes. Extremely competitive with an edge that spikes after he's beaten. Timid receivers should take the day off. Aggressive from press with a powerful punch. Looks to intimidate when the opportunity arises. Drives receivers out of bounds and out of the play if their vertical release takes them too close to the boundary. Will not let a blocking receiver punk him. Tears through blocker and attacks downhill. Searches for opportunities to strip the ball; forced three fumbles in 2016.

WEAKNESSES Impatient from press coverage. Opens inside or outside too early rather than waiting for a clear declare from receiver. Struggles to stay in phase throughout the route and allows separation opportunities. Feet are fast but sloppy. Footwork becomes bulky and balance diminishes when matched against quality route workers. Plays a scrambling style of coverage that is too reliant upon his athletic gifts. Issues playing the deep ball are a concern. From off coverage, overreacts to route fakes and opens the door to a big play. Allowed more than 19 yards per completion as a starter. Can be slow to locate the ball and finds himself out of optimal position to play the ball.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "There are some things on tape that really worry you. If he has trouble playing the long ball it is going to be bombs away against him and his team might have to change how they cover because of that. Those issues usually don't go away." -- Scouting director for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON Jimmy Smith

BOTTOM LINE Talented height-weight-speed prospect who comes from NFL bloodlines. Might need time for his technique to catch up with his traits. Coverage inconsistencies could cause him to struggle against quality competition early on, but his mental makeup and recovery talent should help him pull through. Has the instincts and run-support skills to become an early starter for a zone-cover defense, but it will be hard for teams looking for a lockdown, man corner to pass on all of those physical gifts early in the draft.

[Brandon494]

I saw McCaffrey as 3rd rounder

I should make this my new signature

[red]

Jon Gruden seldom talks down a player. That's basically as close as damnation as he will give you. Gruden says Hooker will bust.

ive never heard him not love a player

[Joemailman]

Redskins are on the clock. This should be Dalvin Cook.

[smuggler]

The 'lowlight' video they showed of his tackling was pretty terrible. He's got range though. Might take him a few years to mature, if the Colts are willing to take their lumps with him.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I just don't get the QB love this draft. I'm not a believer of Watson. Good athlete who's a QB, not a QB who's an athlete.

[gbgary]

skins...allen

[Deputy Nutz]

I figured at least three qbs would go in the first round, I just didn't expect them all to come through teams trading up to get them.

[Joemailman]

Jonathan Allen - DE - Alabama

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Taken to school by Alabama coaching staff and is technically proficient in all phases. Plays outside and inside. Quick off the ball. Superior hand-grappler who can control the wrists and forearms of his opponents with accurate hand placement over wild chops and slaps. Varied approach as a pass rusher. Excellent athletic ability and possesses flexible hips. Able to coordinate hands, feet, and hips to climb over the edge against tackles. Has play strength and quickness to rip through the weak inside post of a guard. Can club with either hand to soften the edge of a blocker. Has posted consistent quarterback pressure and sack numbers despite playing in less than half of the defensive snaps. Alert against the run. Quick to diagnose the mesh point against zone reads and gives chase to the ball. Strong on the edge. Has speed down the line to close down back-side cuts. Feet never seem to stop. Vocal leader willing to give strong corrections to teammates in practice. Came to Alabama as an outside linebacker and runs like it when he's in the open field.

WEAKNESSES Lacking the height teams look for from defensive ends. Not very long and could struggle to win the race for hand positioning against long NFL tackles. Found himself engulfed by linemen with mass from time to time. A move inside could require more bulk on his bones. Not built to take on double-team blocks for a living. Doesn't possess lateral quickness and twitch to contain speedy running backs from getting the corner when he's at defensive end. Teams utilizing one-gap scheme could question his lack of tackles on other side of the line. Might have benefitted by playing along so much NFL talent up front.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1
SOURCES TELL US "He's a really talented pass rusher but he's always been surrounded by enough talent that it's been hard for offenses to game plan their protection for him. He's skilled and very fundamentally sound but I just worry about his size and how he holds up to NFL running games." -- NFC director of player personnel

NFL COMPARISON Fletcher Cox

BOTTOM LINE Outstanding leader and athlete with an ability to rush the passer from outside or inside. Has produced against the run and pass thanks to his strength, agility, elite hand usage, and plus footwork. He might not be the cleanest fit inside as a full-time tackle for some teams, but his talent should trump any size concerns. Allen is a likely first-round selection with Pro Bowl potential down the road.

[gbgary]

Tenn...jackson

[Joemailman]

Titans are on the clock.

[Deputy Nutz]

I love this kid Jonathan Allen.

This is also the 4th defensive player taken in row

[red]

3rd cb

[smuggler]

Ten more fucking picks until GB trades back. Haha

[Joemailman]

Adoree' Jackson - CB - USC

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Feel in coverage has improved substantially from his freshman season. Shows greater pattern recognition and is able to maintain coverage around the field. Has necessary hip flip and foot quickness to recover from mistakes in press and lapses in coverage in space. Plays in a variety of coverage techniques. Able to mirror and match from press. Features closing burst and takes playmaking angles to the throw. Excellent ball skills with well-timed leaps and aggressive tactics at the catch point. Good feel for when to defend a throw and when to take it away. Consistent tackler. When he gets there, he usually finishes his task. High-end return talent who can swing games in an instant. His eight career return touchdowns make him an immediate return man for any team that takes him.

WEAKNESSES Smallish for an outside cornerback. Might be limited to just work in the slot. Can be a little over-aggressive with pace of bail coverage when fearing speed. Has a very slight hitch in transition forward from his pedal. Allowed routes to leverage him too far out of the middle of the field when he had no safety help. Could have issues with big slots posting him up in space. Lack of size and run-support strength could make him an early target for teams who like to run out of 11 personnel (three wide receivers).

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1-2

SOURCES TELL US "I didn't expect him to have the year he did in coverage. I saw ball skills and coverage ability that I didn't see last year. Those interceptions and return touchdowns will push him into the early second. That's my guess." -- South area scout for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON Johnathan Joseph

BOTTOM LINE There are two things teams love -- ball production from cornerbacks and return men who can play meaningful snaps on every down. Jackson fits those criteria. His lack of size and length are concerns, but he has the athleticism to step right in as a slot corner on the next level. His combination of coverage and return talent could make him an early impact player.

[Deputy Nutz]

Adoree Jackson is one of my favorites. I think he is possibly the best athlete at the CB position. I just didn't think he would go this high as he is pretty average in size.

5th defensive player taken in a row

[Joemailman]

Bucs are on the clock. Cook now?

[gbgary]

TB...Howard

[texaspackerbacker]

Jackson was the first one gone who I had some hope the Packers would take. The way this is shaping up, there may be multiple players suitable as Packer picks when the time comes - that makes trading down not too bad an idea.

[pittstang5]

Sup everyone....having fun yet?

[Joemailman]

O.J. Howard - TE - Alabama

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Exceptionally gifted athlete. Has long arms and massive hands for his position. Tremendous acceleration into his routes. Has tools to torment defenses on second and third level. Play speed resembles a wide receiver's when the ball is in the air. Linebackers have no shot against him in space. Can turn a short throw into a long gain. Light on his feet and smooth out of his breaks. Easy separator who creates instant throwing windows when he hits the gas. Natural pass catcher who plucks it away from his body. Can adjust to poorly thrown balls and secure contested catches. Shows no lack of toughness over the middle. Can be lined up all over the field. Monster championship game in 2015 season revealed true potential. Has elite ceiling as playmaker. Lands his hands inside the frame as a blocker. Operates with wide base and attempts to snap hips into his block.

WEAKNESSES Will need more muscle and mass to be an in-line blocker as a pro. Appears passive. Doesn't have the field demeanor of most Alabama players. Needs better hand strength to sustain his blocks. Can do better job of working feet into position after contact. Needs urgency in his routes to tilt defenders and get them guessing. Needs to show more elusiveness after the catch. Saw playing time diminish from junior to senior season. Explosive talent who doesn't make enough explosive plays. Scheme creates some wide-open deep-ball catches at time. Scouts question his competitive nature.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "Alabama recruited a shiny toy but (Lane) Kiffin never really knew what to do with it. I don't worry about the talent at all. He could be an all-pro. I just need to know if he loves football." -- NFC general manager

NFL COMPARISON Julius Thomas

BOTTOM LINE Howard has struggled to live up to hype that has come with his play-making ability while at Alabama, but some scouts put the blame on the staff and scheme. He has elite athletic traits and raw talent, but must add polish to go along with those attributes. Should become substantially more productive as a pro, but the difference between "potential weapon" and "elite tight end" will likely be tied to his desire and overall football character.

[Bretsky]

Hey Peckerheads; just got in the Rat House. Nice start to the draft...........WHEN should I get out wishlist going ? Typically they'll get plucked off the board one by one on the five picks before us

[Joemailman]

Sup everyone....having fun yet?

The party never ends here.

[gbgary]

den...bolles

[Deputy Nutz]

This draft is going pretty good as far as time is concerned

[Deputy Nutz]

Garrett Bolles looks like Chris MacInstosh

[Joemailman]

Garrett Bolles - OT - Utah

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Elite athletic ability with the sweetest feet at the tackle position in this draft. Movement skills are smooth and unencumbered. There isn't an angle block he can't get to. Smooth climbs to linebackers as a work-up blocker, and has rare ability to accelerate from that block up to a third target. Has lateral quickness in run game to cross-face from backside and seal on the play-side. Can take quick settle steps, sinks and scoops defensive ends on base blocks. Quick feet allow for more patience to scan for stunts. Can meet edge speed with quick sets in pass pro. Plays with a mean streak and loves to finish. Outstanding change of direction to mirror without a hitch in his transition. Keeps weight on inside foot in his slides. Moves feet into position against inside counters. Balanced in his pass sets and keeps blocks centered. Should get bigger and stronger with more weight work after unorthodox path to the draft.

WEAKNESSES Frame is a little narrow and legs appear to be shorter than normal. Devoid of drive power in his lowers. Pad level rises and he struggles to generate much movement against stout outside linebackers at point of attack. Needs better knee bend into second-level contact. Inconsistent in sustaining his blocks. Power can toss him off balance. May be limited by scheme fit. Needs to keep hands inside to bolster strength in his base. Lacks trust in his core power against speed-to-power. Leans into blocks with feet behind him to brace up. Will need sharper punch and more sink in his sets. Gives initial ground against power and doesn't always anchor quickly. Will be 25 years old by opening of fall camp.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1-2

SOURCES TELL US "Most athletic offensive lineman I've done since I took over this area of the country. He's also mean on the field, which you love. I'm projecting him to get stronger once he locks into an NFL strength-and-conditioning program. He's underdeveloped right now. What you see isn't what you are going to ultimately get, in my opinion." -- West area scout for NFC team

NFL COMPARISON Cedric Ogbuehi

BOTTOM LINE Because he's only played one year of FBS football and hasn't been able to fully fill out his frame over the last five years, Bolles will require a projection and conjecture than most of the tackles in this year's draft. He clearly has elite athletic ability and foot quickness, but his lack of core strength and ability to sustain blocks against power across from him is a concern at this time. While he has Pro Bowl potential for a zone-scheme team, his floor will be a little lower than you might like in an early round pick.

[BZnDallas]

Does Detroit steal Watt here?

[gbgary]

billed is a Mormon I guess.

[Deputy Nutz]

The NFL draft is turning into the NBA draft with teams reaching on players with one year of experience as a starter

[Joemailman]

Lions are on the clock. Charles Harris here?

[RashanGary]

Now we're gonna start seeing some surprise picks...... that 3rd round media guy goes end of round 1 type thing......

[RashanGary]

The NFL draft is turning into the NBA draft with teams reaching on players with one year of experience as a starter

I was annoyed when we picked Matthews. Never know......

[Bretsky]

Does Detroit steal Watt here?

I could see Detroit or Miami...but I hope not !

[Deputy Nutz]

"Kingston Balls"? Way to go Suzy

[Joemailman]

Could Reuben Foster fall to The Pack?

[gbgary]

det...davis

[BZnDallas]

I was annoyed when we picked Matthews. Never know......

That was luck. Or was that Rodgers? I can't remember.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I hope that Miami takes the Taco, just so I was right on our Mock Draft.

[gbgary]

mia..harris

[Deputy Nutz]

Packers would be fools if they had a chance at Reuben Foster and passed him up

[Bretsky]

Dalvin Cook RB
Jarrad Davis ILB
Tak McKinley OLB
Kevin King CB
TJ Watt OLB
Ruben Foster ILB
Charles Harris DE/OLB
Forrest Lamp OG
Jabrill Peppers S
Tre White CB

ANY I AM MISSING ????

[pbmax]

Dalvin Cook RB
Jarrad Davis ILB
Tak McKinley OLB
Kevin King CB
TJ Watt OLB
Ruben Foster ILB
Charles Harris DE/OLB
Forrest Lamp OG
Jabrill Peppers S
Tre White CB

ANY I AM MISSING ????

get rid of the Guard and RB

[Bretsky]

Packers would be fools if they had a chance at Reuben Foster and passed him up


Serious Character concerns

[Deputy Nutz]

Packers may select a Badger but I don't think it will be the player everyone wants

[Deputy Nutz]

Serious Character concerns

You can't put Baby in a corner

[Joemailman]

Jarrad Davis - LB - Florida

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Angular build with long limbs and a shredded physique. Excellent flexibility throughout his trunk. Can twist and turn to slither into gaps. Plus acceleration to chase all over the field. Scouts say coaches are effusive in their praise of his leadership, work ethic and character. Can be rude to company. Erupts from coiled hips with a jarring pop under the pads of oncoming blockers. Runs downhill with choppy steps in balanced, tackle-ready position. Effective in spy role with athleticism to mirror mobile quarterbacks. Has closing burst that could become a weapon as a blitzer. Wrap-up tackler with strong finishing rate. Improved his discipline pursuing to the sideline. Did a better job of leveraging running backs against the boundary. Forceful redirect of tight ends out of their routes. Good peripheral helps him spot crossing routes without having to drop eyes from the quarterback. Has athletic tools to become better in coverage.

WEAKNESSES Downhill routes to the ball can be problematic. Will step too far downhill and get trapped in traffic on counters or bounces to the perimeter. Needs to play with more consistent technique and positioning to properly leverage his gaps against gap plays. Lateral scrapes sometimes lack patience forcing him to overrun run fits and open cutback lanes. Sometimes prioritizes attacking blockers too high. Has to get better at seeing and working past the blocker and toward the runner rather than issuing so many physical challenges that get him behind in pursuit. Could improve with greater stick-and-move hand work to keep himself clean. Struggles to free himself when snatched by blocker. Average instincts create inefficiency with early, post-snap movement.


DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 1-2

SOURCES TELL US "He's good. I don't care about some of those holes you are talking about. Kill him so maybe somebody will listen to you and he can fall to us. We'll take him." -- AFC executive

NFL COMPARISON Shaq Thompson

BOTTOM LINE Praised for both his football and personal character, Davis has athletic gifts to go along with the character traits teams are looking for. His ability to cover ground, operate with loose hips in space, and finish his tackles make him a draft favorite for some teams. While it is easy to fall in love with the traits and potential, Will have to take better routes to the ball and learn to keep himself clean against blocks. Should be able to compete for an early starting job as a 4-3 outside backer.

[Bretsky]

get rid of the Guard and RB


I think they make the grade as the possible BPA; it would not surprise me if TTT takes one of them although I would not agree with it

[RashanGary]

Two players I really liked when I watched play were Joe Mixon and Tim Williams. Two guys with major character concerns

[RashanGary]

I liked jarrad Davis too. Damn it!!

[Bretsky]

get rid of the Guard and RB



I thought Wist was taking Jarrad Davis in our mock. I think Davis is a stud and Detroit made a great call here

[Bretsky]

Good pick by Miami in Charles Harris............pass rusher.............was worried Watt might go there

[Deputy Nutz]

That's Sasquatch not Chewie!!!

[Joemailman]

Charles Harris - OLB - Missouri

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Long legs with well defined bubble. Has loose, fluid hips. Explodes out of his stance in search of gap work vs. run game. Lateral quickness makes it a challenge to reach him or cross his face for offensive linemen. Good first step quickness. Plays with energy and keeps it cranked up until the whistle blows. Runs with high knees and athletic, long strides in the open field. Basketball standout in high school who uses nimble feet for an effective spin move. Can unleash spin counter in either direction. Plays on either side of the line and can play with a hand down or standing up. In 2015, led team in sacks, tackles for losses and hurries and was second in tackles. Uses early speed-to-power to create movement before attacking the tackle's inside shoulder. Showed some ability to drop in space when called upon.

WEAKNESSES Found himself too easily engulfed by size this season. Gives ground on the edge and can be widened out of his run fit. Hands must get better at point of attack. Needs to punch and own the point. Rides on blocks rather than shucks them. Lacks desired glass-chewing mentality against the run. Plays with slow reaction time to counters and misdirection and can lose track of the ball. Needs earlier shoulder turn as rusher to prevent early pass sets from punching him as squared-up rusher. Slow to activate his counter spin back inside. More violent approach with hands at top of his rush would help grease the edge. Productivity dropped after struggling with new defensive scheme.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "Don't get caught up in his numbers this year. He just didn't mesh with what they asked him to do. He's also got to be coachable and I think he may have fought the changes a little too much. What I saw in 2015 is what I think he's going to be." NFC North regional scout

NFL COMPARISON Connor Barwin

BOTTOM LINE High-cut pass rusher with good athleticism but concerns regarding his ability to drop anchor against the run. Ironically, Harris might be best suited as a penetrator which is something he fought against this season. His hands can be improved as pass rush weapons, but he has agility and footwork that can't be taught. Harris can play on the edge in a 4-3 or 3-4 front and should be the next in a line of early contributing defensive ends coming out of Missouri.

[Deputy Nutz]

I don't like Charles Davis, one trick pony, can't play the run and gives up gap responsibility

[Joemailman]

Giants are on the clock.

[gbgary]

nyg..engram

[Joemailman]

I don't like Charles Davis, one trick pony, can't play the run and gives up gap responsibility

How do you like Charles Harris?

[BZnDallas]

Giants take Ram?

[BZnDallas]

I trust Gary lol

[Bretsky]

NY GIANTS.....come on NY

take the Badger OT or Delvin Cook or Cam Robinson

My guess is they go OT from UW

[Bretsky]

What are the odds I'm cussing out TT tonight in frustration ? lol......

[Joemailman]

Evan Engram - TE - Mississippi

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Good explosion over the first 5 yards of his route. Plus athletic ability with easy-opening hips. Nimble feet with quick, controlled strides into and out of his breaks. Accelerates out of his breaks to uncover from defenders for quarterback. Will have to be guarded by defensive backs. Opens quickly to find the ball. Successful working all three levels at Ole Miss. Has true vertical speed to attack the seams. Competitive, athletic runner after the catch. Springy leaper. Jumped out of the gym to snare a touchdown over the head of a Georgia defender. Able to pluck balls low, high, and behind him.

WEAKNESSES Needs to learn when and where to sit down in the middle of the field. Must learn to do a better job of working back to the ball. Doesn't post up defenders effectively. Allows defender to work through him and disrupt the catch. Has had issues with drops and contested catches could be an issue. Allows throws to beat him up at times. Needs to do better job of selling a two-way go to the top of his routes rather than giving route direction away. Move tight end only who lacks dependability as a blocker.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round2 1-2

NFL COMPARISON Jordan Reed

BOTTOM LINE Makes up for his lack of size with athletic ability and plus speed for the position. Engram has experience as a safety blanket for Ole Miss QB Chad Kelly and can work all three levels of the field. He will appeal strictly to teams looking for a move tight end who can be deployed as a chess piece in a matchup-based passing attack. Engram's ability to stress defenses could land him on Day 2 (Rounds 2-3) of the draft and a potential starting role early in his career.

[Bretsky]

GOOD PICK NYG; another TE is gone

[Joemailman]

Raiders are on the clock. Cam Robinson?

[Joemailman]

GOOD PICK NYG; another TE is gone

That's good for GB

[Bretsky]

Dalvin Cook RB
Jarrad Davis ILB
Tak McKinley OLB
Kevin King CB
TJ Watt OLB
Ruben Foster ILB
Charles Harris DE/OLB
Forrest Lamp OG
Jabrill Peppers S
Tre White CB

ANY I AM MISSING ????


UPDATE

JJ WATT
TAK MCKINLEY (he might be the guy based on how things are falling)
RUBEN FOSTER
KEVIN KING
TRE WHITE
JABRILL PEPPERS
DALVIN COOK
FORREST LAMP

[wist43]

Engram is a good player...

[Joemailman]

The way this is going I could definitely see TT trading down.

[gbgary]

oak...conley

[RashanGary]

Packers would be fools if they had a chance at Reuben Foster and passed him up

Just started looking at him..... similar player as jarrad Davis..... looks like a good player. would be nice to have a guy really make the middle of our defense strong, but I'd rather have pass rush if it's there!

[Sparkey]

Foster or Cook here.

[Cheesehead Craig]

nyg..engram

Damn, who's your source?

[Carolina_Packer]

Could Reuben Foster fall to The Pack?

Man, he'd be hard to pass on. He stops the run, he can cover, and can blitz. So he drank some water...a player gets thirsty.

[Bretsky]

Raiders are on the clock. Cam Robinson?


Both R Foster and J Peppers seems Raider like

[wist43]

UPDATE

JJ WATT
TAK MCKINLEY (he might be the guy based on how things are falling)
RUBEN FOSTER
KEVIN KING
TRE WHITE
JABRILL PEPPERS
DALVIN COOK
FORREST LAMP

Out of yhat list, give me...

Cook, King, or Foster.

[Deputy Nutz]

Possible list of available selections for the Packers
Tre White CB LSU
Ryan Ramczyk OL WI
Reuben Foster LB Alabama
Takk McKinnley Edge UCLA
Dalvin Cook RB FSU
TJ Watt Edge WI
Forest Lamp OL WK
Kevin King CB Wash

[Bretsky]

Man, he'd be hard to pass on. He stops the run, he can cover, and can blitz. So he drank some water...a player gets thirsty.


Heard he went off at the combine; sounds like he's the type of guy TT avoids...a bad person

[Cheesehead Craig]

oak...conley

Ok, you're posting this shit way before the pick is announced.

[Deputy Nutz]

possible risk, but I think it is worth it for the Raiders.

[Bretsky]

Out of yhat list, give me...

Cook, King, or Foster.


I don't share your man love for King

[Guiness]

well, there it is - Conley drafted. What a ride he's had this week.

edit: listen to them go on about an f'ing lie detector test like it means a damn thing

[Deputy Nutz]

Lie Detector?

[Joemailman]

Gareon Conley - CB - Ohio St.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Has NFL size with above-average length. Plays long. At his best when playing with inside leverage and trapping receivers against the boundary. Shades receivers with a basketball stance -- wide base, bent knees and wide arms. Creates challenging throwing lanes to target. Allowed just 37 percent completion rate. Press-man talent with zone instincts. Shows discipline and technique on verticals and curls. Matches with his feet rather than grabbing. Senses when his pattern is designed to clear space for another receiver and reacts accordingly. Has plus burst to the throw. Uses length to play around receiver and bat passes down underneath without interfering. Runs well and sinks into receiver's lap down the field, getting his head around to make a play on the ball. Plays the ball with soft hands and outstanding timing.

WEAKNESSES Can be a little tight-hipped in his transitions. Pattern-match was just average when facing off against more advanced route trees. Michigan receivers created separation and some panic in Conley with their inside releases and crossing routes. Got caught reaching and holding in attempt to recover. Will occasionally default to face-guarding rather than turning to find ball. Can be slow to digest route combinations and lose track of his man. Doesn’t look as comfortable or confident in off-man. Plays small in run support and needs to work on consistency as a tackler. Gets driven off his spot by blocking receivers and rarely charges forward to attack near the line of scrimmage.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

SOURCES TELL US "He's not as good as the other cornerback (Marshon Lattimore), but he's a good corner. If he measures over 6-foot and runs in the low 4.4s he will come off the board on Thursday night." -- North area scout for NFC team

NFL COMPARISON Aqib Talib

BOTTOM LINE Press-corner with experience at both cornerback spots and an ability to fit into a variety of coverage techniques. He plays with good top-end speed and has the ball skills to challenge and defend passes on any level. He can step in right away in zone coverage, but could struggle to match patterns from a pedal. He will likely be targeted by teams seeking long cornerbacks who can crowd and trail receivers down the field. He has the talent to become an early starter, but he must improve in run support.

[Bretsky]

TJ Watt would be a classic pick for Seattle
But they really need OL help